Silly question

[Guest guest]

Re: Silly question

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 09:32:30 -0500, you wrote:

>

> >It's great for him and not disqusting at all. Many five year olds are

still breastfeeding.

> >

>

> I guess I'm just old-fashioned, but 5 seems 4 years too long.

> db

>

Dave,

Before I started breastfeeding I couldn't believe that anyone would want to

BF a child over the age of 1 either. I remember saying to someone that if a

kid could hold a cup they were old enough to drink juice or milk..... I

also remember thinking that anyone who didn't vaccinated was terrible too!

Now that I am much more informed I see ther errors of that mainstream

thought pattern. I weaned my 3year old when I was pregnant because it hurt

so much to nurse and I still regret it. She immediately got one cold after

the other and now I always worry she is not getting enough nutrition--she's

a picky eater and breast milk (no matter how little she nursed) was always a

comfort to me. I also think our society is way to hung up on the thought

that nursing is some how a sexual thing because it involves breasts and that

somehow these children are going to be psychologically damaged. Otherwise

why would educated people not want a free source of the perfect food that

also fight diseases?

Jen

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There are always nutritional benefits to breastmilk. Your daughter may not

depend on those nutrients anymore, but breastmilk is a very nutritious

substance that we could probably all benefit from (Sorry Dave)

LSoto wrote:

> I am not really telling anyone anymore, because I started getting really

> strange looks and comments when she was approaching her 3'rd birthday,

> but I'm still breastfeeding my 3.5 year old. It's hard to give it up.

> I don't know if there are any nutritional benefits any longer, but she

> sure loves it and with no vaccinations and a good doze of breastmilk

> she's never sick. Lone

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A question on this... I bf my son till 15 months. Still wished I would have gone longer, but oh well! But the reason I quit was because of teeth. He had them ALL early. In fact he was done with all 20 by age 18 months! SO at 15 months he only had a couple to go... Anyway, he NEVER bit me, but the constant grating of the teeth on me got to be too much... I am not saying that as selfish, just as a matter of pain!

So, did those of you who bf 2 and more years, did you have a problem with teeth? I loved nursing, but let me tell you having THAT many teeth on me....

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I weaned my 3year old when I was pregnant because it hurtso much to nurse and I still regret it. She immediately got one cold afterthe other and now I always worry she is not getting enough nutrition--she'sa picky eater and breast milk (no matter how little she nursed) was always acomfort to me. I also think our society is way to hung up on the thoughtthat nursing is some how a sexual thing because it involves breasts and thatsomehow these children are going to be psychologically damaged. Otherwisewhy would educated people not want a free source of the perfect food thatalso fight diseases?Jen

[Guest guest]

I'm still nursing my 25 mth old daughter and have no problem with teeth -

any more. We went through the typical bites but they were mainly when she

was nursing. The urge to bite things (i.e., teething rings and such) when

the baby is teething doesn't disappear when the baby latches on, so you

just have to anticipate that. I learned with my first daughter to not show

any facial reaction to a bite - they will find that hilarious and think

it's a new game.

Now, I can tell her " you're biting me " and she will change

positions. Before she was old enough to understand, I'd keep my thumb

poised and ready to slip into the corner of her mouth to wedge between her

jaws. Kind of like how you do with horses when you're trying to put the

bridle on and they won't open their mouths.

[Guest guest]

Yes- but Raiden did NOT bite me... It was that he had SO many teeth grating me...

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I'm still nursing my 25 mth old daughter and have no problem with teeth - any more. We went through the typical bites but they were mainly when she was nursing. The urge to bite things (i.e., teething rings and such) when the baby is teething doesn't disappear when the baby latches on, so you just have to anticipate that. I learned with my first daughter to not show any facial reaction to a bite - they will find that hilarious and think it's a new game.Now, I can tell her "you're biting me" and she will change positions. Before she was old enough to understand, I'd keep my thumb poised and ready to slip into the corner of her mouth to wedge between her jaws. Kind of like how you do with horses when you're trying to put the bridle on and they won't open their mouths.

[Guest guest]

I had the same problem around the same age. I would actually get teeth marks! I did alot of warnings, showed her the marks and said ouch, and if she used teeth we would stop nursing. that eventually stopped it unless she was nursing asleep and wasn't really aware she was doing it. Another reason she seemed to use teeth more was to get more milk out when my supply was dwindling. I noticed she did it the most on my one side that had less milk (I could tell by how it felt after 8 hours of no nursing as opposed to the other breast)

jennifer

Re: Silly question

A question on this... I bf my son till 15 months. Still wished I would have gone longer, but oh well! But the reason I quit was because of teeth. He had them ALL early. In fact he was done with all 20 by age 18 months! SO at 15 months he only had a couple to go... Anyway, he NEVER bit me, but the constant grating of the teeth on me got to be too much... I am not saying that as selfish, just as a matter of pain!

So, did those of you who bf 2 and more years, did you have a problem with teeth? I loved nursing, but let me tell you having THAT many teeth on me....

Sindeahttp://www.geocities.com/camerasindea/HURFamily.html

www.hurphotography.com

I weaned my 3year old when I was pregnant because it hurtso much to nurse and I still regret it. She immediately got one cold afterthe other and now I always worry she is not getting enough nutrition--she'sa picky eater and breast milk (no matter how little she nursed) was always acomfort to me. I also think our society is way to hung up on the thoughtthat nursing is some how a sexual thing because it involves breasts and thatsomehow these children are going to be psychologically damaged. Otherwisewhy would educated people not want a free source of the perfect food thatalso fight diseases?Jen

[Guest guest]

Yes, I get teeth marks too. It's an indicator that the latch is not quite

correct. It doesn't bother me so I haven't bothered correcting it.

You're right, it's more likely as the child dozes off. I've read that the

jaw tends to close as the child falls asleep. That's when the thumb in the

corner of the mouth, or using the thumb to apply gentle downward pressure

on the chin as you detach, comes in handy. Don't try, as I did, to simply

pull away. Ouch!

Also - the flat-topped bottle nipples cause a child to bite more when

nursing. The child has to bite the flat bottle nipple to get the hole to

open and release the milk. Avoid those if biting/clamping while nursing is

a problem.

[Guest guest]

Sindea,

Ooh, the grating teeth get to me too. Don't know what to tell you about

that ;>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/17/00 4:49:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dbern@...

writes:

<<

I guess I'm just old-fashioned, but 5 seems 4 years too long.

db

>>

Still bfing at dd 17mo and am so happy she has breastmilk instead of cows

milk.

To cut a baby off at 1yo seems cruel to me.JMO Sara

[Guest guest]

That is one thing i have never had a problem with, and that is nursing in

public. I think it is beautiful and encouraging to see a mother

breastfeeding. I do it with my twins and i havent had any complaints. They

have to eat, when they gotta eat!!! It is difficult to explain to two

huuuunnnngrryyy babies they have to wait for a more appropriate place to

eat!!!

I have heard of people being harassed because of it though. A friend of

mine had pulled over on an interstate to feed her baby. She was covered up,

but a police officer stopped and told her he was going to give her a ticket

for public lewdness. She stood right up to him and told him to go ahead and

try and see what happens. Can you believe it?

Christin

[Guest guest]

Hi. My name is . (Another on

board..lol)I haven't written in awhile. But I HAVE

been reading every email. (I am the one who's mom said

she wouldn't give x-mas presents unless I vaccinate)

My son is 10 mths old. I still BF and I will until he

wants to stop. My sister-in-law was 4 1/2 when she

stopped breastfeeding. My Mother-in-law has taught me

so much about breastfeeding.

I am a working mother and I go to the nurse's office

during the workday and pump. I have met other mothers

and they are surprised that I am still pumping. They

are just starting out (their babies range in ages from

2 1/2 mths to 4 mths). Two moms stopped when their

children got to 5 mths old. They said they were just

" too tired " to keep pumping.

I don't understand these women. I am exhausted too but

I still do it. And he has 5 teeth. I thought the teeth

would bother me, but they don't. I got used to it. It

is a sacrifice that I must make for my son to be

healthy. Although he has bitten me twice. And he

learned not to do it again.

--- nnu29@... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/17/00 4:49:46 PM Pacific

> Daylight Time, dbern@...

> writes:

>

> <<

>

> I guess I'm just old-fashioned, but 5 seems 4 years

> too long.

> db

> >>

> Still bfing at dd 17mo and am so happy she has

> breastmilk instead of cows

> milk.

> To cut a baby off at 1yo seems cruel to me.JMO Sara

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/22/00 4:34:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dbern@...

writes:

<<

It's not about nutrition and it's not about " how it looks " . It is about

cutting

apron strings and building character. You can chew the baby's food before

you

feed it to him, especially if it's something new, or if it is too crunchy,

etc.

db >>

Cutting apron strings an building character????

Oh geez...if you only knew...

Let's go back to basic Dr. Sears, Give a baby what they need, they'll grow up

to be independant. It's so true. My little guy nursed till 2 1/2. He's always

been so independant even while still nursing. Last week, I took him to

swimming lessons for the first time. I was the nervous one. He walked over

and sat on the bench with the other kids and told me he would be ok, that I

was to go to the bleachers with the other moms. Before he turned two he

insisted on spending the night at his gram and pappy's one night. He talks to

EVERYONE. He's the biggest character you'd ever meet!

My little girl weaned on her own at 14 months and is also frightfully

independant and talk about character...Yikes. LOL She's lamost 18 months now

and right up there with her brother on character.

They are also the healthiest little things you'd ever come across. Beautiful

and so much energy. Ok, now I'm bragging, but really, I get compliments on

them everywehre they go. Their language skilss are WAY above normal. (My baby

girl was just in a lang study and came out above the 25 month olds also in

the study!) and my little boy who just turned 3 this week carries on ENTIRE

thoughtful, real conversations. And, I attribute it to my excellent

parenting. Such as breastfeeding, baby wearing, no vaccing and co sleeping.

So much for cutting apron strings and building character.

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[Guest guest]

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 07:07:49 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>Hi. My name is . (Another on

>board..lol)I haven't written in awhile. But I HAVE

>been reading every email. (I am the one who's mom said

>she wouldn't give x-mas presents unless I vaccinate)

>

>My son is 10 mths old. I still BF and I will until he

>wants to stop. My sister-in-law was 4 1/2 when she

>stopped breastfeeding. My Mother-in-law has taught me

>so much about breastfeeding.

>I am a working mother and I go to the nurse's office

>during the workday and pump. I have met other mothers

>and they are surprised that I am still pumping. They

>are just starting out (their babies range in ages from

>2 1/2 mths to 4 mths). Two moms stopped when their

>children got to 5 mths old. They said they were just

> " too tired " to keep pumping.

>I don't understand these women. I am exhausted too but

>I still do it. And he has 5 teeth. I thought the teeth

>would bother me, but they don't. I got used to it. It

>is a sacrifice that I must make for my son to be

>healthy. Although he has bitten me twice. And he

>learned not to do it again.

It's not about nutrition and it's not about " how it looks " . It is about cutting

apron strings and building character. You can chew the baby's food before you

feed it to him, especially if it's something new, or if it is too crunchy, etc.

db

>

>

>--- nnu29@... wrote:

>> In a message dated 7/17/00 4:49:46 PM Pacific

>> Daylight Time, dbern@...

>> writes:

>>

>> <<

>>

>> I guess I'm just old-fashioned, but 5 seems 4 years

>> too long.

>> db

>> >>

>> Still bfing at dd 17mo and am so happy she has

>> breastmilk instead of cows

>> milk.

>> To cut a baby off at 1yo seems cruel to me.JMO Sara

>>

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[Guest guest]

Are you serious? Why not just leave them in an incubator until college - then

you

never have to bother being a parent at all. Building character... come on man -

you've been brainwashed!

S.

>

> It's not about nutrition and it's not about " how it looks " . It is about

cutting

> apron strings and building character. You can chew the baby's food before you

> feed it to him, especially if it's something new, or if it is too crunchy,

etc.

> db

> >

> >

> >--- nnu29@... wrote:

> >> In a message dated 7/17/00 4:49:46 PM Pacific

> >> Daylight Time, dbern@...

> >> writes:

> >>

> >> <<

> >>

> >> I guess I'm just old-fashioned, but 5 seems 4 years

> >> too long.

> >> db

> >> >>

> >> Still bfing at dd 17mo and am so happy she has

> >> breastmilk instead of cows

> >> milk.

> >> To cut a baby off at 1yo seems cruel to me.JMO Sara

> >>

> >

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[Guest guest]

>>My son is 10 mths old. I still BF and I will until he

>>wants to stop. My sister-in-law was 4 1/2 when she

>>stopped breastfeeding. My Mother-in-law has taught me

>>so much about breastfeeding.

>>I am a working mother and I go to the nurse's office

>>during the workday and pump. I have met other mothers

>>and they are surprised that I am still pumping. They

>>are just starting out (their babies range in ages from

>>2 1/2 mths to 4 mths). Two moms stopped when their

>>children got to 5 mths old. They said they were just

>> " too tired " to keep pumping.

>>I don't understand these women. I am exhausted too but

>>I still do it. And he has 5 teeth. I thought the teeth

>>would bother me, but they don't. I got used to it. It

>>is a sacrifice that I must make for my son to be

>>healthy. Although he has bitten me twice. And he

>>learned not to do it again.

>

>It's not about nutrition and it's not about " how it looks " . It is about

cutting

>apron strings and building character. You can chew the baby's food before

you

>feed it to him, especially if it's something new, or if it is too crunchy,

etc.

>db

>>

Dave - what are you saying here? Are you serious?

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teresav26@... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/22/00 4:34:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dbern@...

> writes:

>

> <<

> It's not about nutrition and it's not about " how it looks " . It is about

> cutting

> apron strings and building character. You can chew the baby's food before

> you

> feed it to him, especially if it's something new, or if it is too crunchy,

> etc.

> db >>

> Cutting apron strings an building character????

> Oh geez...if you only knew...

> Let's go back to basic Dr. Sears, Give a baby what they need, they'll grow up

> to be independant. It's so true. My little guy nursed till 2 1/2. He's always

> been so independant even while still nursing. Last week, I took him to

> swimming lessons for the first time. I was the nervous one. He walked over

> and sat on the bench with the other kids and told me he would be ok, that I

> was to go to the bleachers with the other moms. Before he turned two he

> insisted on spending the night at his gram and pappy's one night. He talks to

> EVERYONE. He's the biggest character you'd ever meet!

> My little girl weaned on her own at 14 months and is also frightfully

> independant and talk about character...Yikes. LOL She's lamost 18 months now

> and right up there with her brother on character.

> They are also the healthiest little things you'd ever come across. Beautiful

> and so much energy. Ok, now I'm bragging, but really, I get compliments on

> them everywehre they go. Their language skilss are WAY above normal. (My baby

> girl was just in a lang study and came out above the 25 month olds also in

> the study!) and my little boy who just turned 3 this week carries on ENTIRE

> thoughtful, real conversations. And, I attribute it to my excellent

> parenting. Such as breastfeeding, baby wearing, no vaccing and co sleeping.

> So much for cutting apron strings and building character.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

i too, am pretty much exclusively BFing my 9 month old (with 8 teeth!!

ouch). i will continue to do so until he no longer wants it--and with this

guy i think that'll be a long, long time. i never pictured my self as an

extendede breastfeeder, but the moe i know about the benefits of BM, the more

i am willing to continue as long as possible. who cares what anyone else

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Hi Randi,

From what I understand that is possible. Some one will reply soon

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> Hey all:

>

> Is it possible to notice assymmetry better in pics and a mirror

than

> in person? I am asking because 's face seems to look

> more " different " from one side to the other in the mirror and in

her

> pics than when we look right at her. I was just wondering.

>

> Randi, 's mom

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Hey Randi: I think that is more noticeable in a mirror. I'm not sure why though, but I think it may have something to do with the way we perceive the human face. Did you ever see that picture in a psychology textbook that has the eyes, nose, and mouth glued on upside down? When you look at the whole face upsdie downit looks totally normal, but when you look right side up, it looks totally weird. I bet the mirror thing has something to do with that, although I am not sure why!

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STARbanded 5/8/03ue_98 <randisue_98@...> wrote:

Hey all:Is it possible to notice assymmetry better in pics and a mirror than in person? I am asking because 's face seems to look more "different" from one side to the other in the mirror and in her pics than when we look right at her. I was just wondering.Randi, 's momFor more plagio info

[Guest guest]

Randi,

I think it's b/c when you look in the mirror you're seeing in 2

dimension. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

> Hey all:

>

> Is it possible to notice assymmetry better in pics and a mirror

than

> in person? I am asking because 's face seems to look

> more " different " from one side to the other in the mirror and in

her

> pics than when we look right at her. I was just wondering.

>

> Randi, 's mom

[Guest guest]

Randi,

No question did we use the mirror to see how my son was progressing- he always looked his worst in the mirror, and I can't think of the scientific explanation, I think its because its two dimensional or something to that effect??! I also felt like just looking at him, some days he was worse than others and my eyes really played tricks on me. It's great to have pictures as your third eye, to help get a better documented idea of what's going on. It was great to put my son in front of the mirror and not see him asymmetrical after banding.

'mom

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/15/2003 11:19:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, marcisch@... writes:

My ortho was very quick to caution us about being too

concerned about the 2D image. However, it's pretty hard not to dwell on the

more pronounced issues when looking in a mirror!

Marci,

Yeah, right! You want your child to be able to look in the mirror and be comfortable with what they are seeing, not say, honey don't look in the mirror its only 2 dimensional!

[Guest guest]

That's right - it's the difference between three dimensional and two

dimensional. My ortho was very quick to caution us about being too

concerned about the 2D image. However, it's pretty hard not to dwell on the

more pronounced issues when looking in a mirror!

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

> > Hey all:

> >

> > Is it possible to notice assymmetry better in pics and a mirror

> than

> > in person? I am asking because 's face seems to look

> > more " different " from one side to the other in the mirror and in

> her

> > pics than when we look right at her. I was just wondering.

> >

> > Randi, 's mom

[Guest guest]

lol Here in Dustie world, I pronounce it Orth-0-tist. lol It may

be kind of like Tomato/Tamata lol

Dustie

--- In Plagiocephaly , " klbowman27 " <klbowman27@y...>

wrote:

> I feel silly asking this but....

>

> is orthotist pronounced

>

> " or " - " thought " - " ist "

>

> or is it pronounced

>

> " orth " - " o " - " tist " ?

>

>

> We are going tomorrow to get an prescription for the DOC band (our

> consultation is Nov. 6 and I want to be ready if we need one)

> and I want to make sure when I convince my pediatrician that I've

> done my research I am pronouncing orthotist correctly:)!

>

> Thanks!

> Kristie (Luke's Mom...5.5 months and repoing for now)