Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

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Dear KAT

There is an excellent HBO facility in Galveston, Tx. University of Texas

Medical Branch.. Corsen teaches classes on HBO at the UTMB facility.

Dr. Barrett has run some successful studies on stroke Dr.Barrett's

e-mail address is kfbarrett@... This is one of the best HBO facilities

in the U.S,

[Guest guest]

Could be magnesium deficiencies - the best source for which

is fresh raw deep green leafy veggies - or better yet, fresh

wheat grass juice.

re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

> Two things: First, I am convinced that HBOT would benefit

me greatly, as I

> have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. The problem is, I can't

find any facilities

> near me that will treat this disease. It really doesn't

make sense for me

> to travel to California, besides the cost, I am sick a lot

and can't travel.

> Here in Texas, the units are only used for surgery or burn

patients, etc.

> They won't even talk to me when they hear what I have. If

anyone can help

> with any info I would greatly appreciate it. Secondly:

Besides extreme

> fatigue, lately I have been experiencing severe muscle

pain esp. in my

> calves. It is almost a burning sensation and massage

sends me through the

> roof!!! Could anyone speculate as to what this might be?

Could inactivity

> be the problem? Any input? Thanks,

> KAT

>

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> ....lately I have been experiencing severe muscle pain

> esp. in my calves. It is almost a burning sensation....

This could be a calcium, and/or magnesium, and/or

potassium deficiency -- but MSM could also work.

(Hold MSM crystals in the mouth, follow with water.)

For potassium, try apple-cider vinegar (acetic acid),

2 tsp. per glass of water.

The best magnesium for CFS is 'magnesium malate' (made with

malic acid), low prices: http://www.beyond-a-century.com .

There is a detailed article on " Malic Acid, Energy,

and Fibromyalgia " at: http://www.vrp.com

(VRP's Nutritional News - December, 1995).

Bill

[Guest guest]

Kat,

If inactivity is a reality and the physical body is not happy,

then yes, the inactivity is always going to be a part of the

problem. It's not a choice we get. We have to get enough

exercise. We have to. IMO, the exercise creates the energy.

jim

Angelkat wrote:

Could inactivity

> be the problem?

> KAT

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I am unable to access this site. Is there any way you can reprint the

article, or how can I get access to the site? Thanks. Terryh

>

> There is a detailed article on " Malic Acid, Energy,

> and Fibromyalgia " at: http://www.vrp.com

> (VRP's Nutritional News - December, 1995).

>

>

> Bill

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/11/00 2:53:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kingsbry@...

writes:

<< The best magnesium for CFS is 'magnesium malate' (made with

malic acid), low prices: http://www.beyond-a-century.com >>

General question for this group of informed folks:

Am I getting enough magnesium in Homozon?

Lash

[Guest guest]

Lash,

If you're doin' Homozon, yeah!

jim

LASHLIN@... wrote:

>

>

> General question for this group of informed folks:

> Am I getting enough magnesium in Homozon?

> Lash

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LASHLIN@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 7/11/00 2:53:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kingsbry@...

> writes:

>

> << The best magnesium for CFS is 'magnesium malate' (made with

> malic acid), low prices: http://www.beyond-a-century.com >>

>

> General question for this group of informed folks:

> Am I getting enough magnesium in Homozon?

> Lash

Dr. GAF, are you out there ? In the archives there is at least one

thread on this question with a very good answer from Dr. GAF about Mg

requirements of the body. I think it supplies enough but that is just my

opinion.

Del Snow.

[Guest guest]

On a related issue: what can be done for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome? I have a

friend who is experiencing extreme pain, but doesn't want to take excessive

amounts of cortisone shots, which at this point is the only option she's been

given.

[Guest guest]

Jim,

Please re-post the information on how to order the FIR lamp, including

what make and model you might recommend.

Thanks,

Lash

[Guest guest]

Anyone with carpal tunnel should be on a

supplement high in vitamin B6. Also a B complex

with Vitamin B2 also.

Give it 6-8 weeks and see if it is better.

JP

Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

> On a related issue: what can be done for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome? I have a

> friend who is experiencing extreme pain, but doesn't want to take

excessive

> amounts of cortisone shots, which at this point is the only option she's

been

> given.

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I would get the friend's wrists under a FIR lamp pronto. My lamp

has banished every body pain offered to it so far.

jim

> From: zoewho@... <zoewho@...>

> oxyplusegroups <oxyplusegroups>

> Date: Friday, July 14, 2000 12:31 PM

> Subject: Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

>

> >On a related issue: what can be done for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome? I have a

> >friend who is experiencing extreme pain, but doesn't want to take excessive

> >amounts of cortisone shots, which at this point is the only option she's

> been

> >given.

> >

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Good point, Jim. I'm " aching " to try mine out.

It's in the mail right now!

> I would get the friend's wrists under a FIR lamp pronto. My lamp

> has banished every body pain offered to it so far.

>

> jim

>

>

> > From: zoewho@... <zoewho@...>

> > oxyplusegroups <oxyplusegroups>

> > Date: Friday, July 14, 2000 12:31 PM

> > Subject: Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

> >

> > >On a related issue: what can be done for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome? I have

a

> > >friend who is experiencing extreme pain, but doesn't want to take

excessive

> > >amounts of cortisone shots, which at this point is the only option

she's

> > been

> > >given.

> > >

> > >---

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Lash,

the URL is: http://www.cerebrex.com/tdplamps.html and I

recommend the MF floor model if you can afford it.($1000) The

first model if you can't. ($235) I recommend against the table

model of the MF lamp. A good solid base with an articulated arm

for precise positioning is essential.

jim

LASHLIN@... wrote:

>

> Jim,

> Please re-post the information on how to order the FIR lamp, including

> what make and model you might recommend.

> Thanks,

> Lash

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Hi Jim

Any ideas on where, or how to get a better price on

this new " Bio-spectrum Multi-frequency TDP Lamp " with

the floor stand - which has a list price of $1000 ?

Thanks

Bill

At 03:35 AM 7-15-2000 -0400, you wrote:

>

>the URL is: http://www.cerebrex.com/tdplamps.html and I

>recommend the MF floor model if you can afford it.($1000) The

>first model if you can't. ($235) I recommend against the table

>model of the MF lamp. A good solid base with an articulated arm

>for precise positioning is essential.

..

[Guest guest]

Tell me about this Lamp,

you have all the goodies, Jim!

> [Original Message]

> From: Jim Lambert <jlambert@...>

> <oxyplusegroups>

> Date: 07/15/2000 12:39:16 AM

> Subject: Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

>

> Lash,

>

> the URL is: http://www.cerebrex.com/tdplamps.html and I

> recommend the MF floor model if you can afford it.($1000) The

> first model if you can't. ($235) I recommend against the table

> model of the MF lamp. A good solid base with an articulated arm

> for precise positioning is essential.

>

> jim

>

> LASHLIN@... wrote:

> >

> > Jim,

> > Please re-post the information on how to order the FIR lamp,

including

> > what make and model you might recommend.

> > Thanks,

> > Lash

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[Guest guest]

Jim. Is this like the lamps the Chiropractors have, or is it like a

infar-red sauna?

There are two models, Do you know the difference? are they two different

lamps or one floor and desk? I am thinking of getting one, what do you use

it for?

> [Original Message]

> From: Jim Lambert <jlambert@...>

> <oxyplusegroups>

> Date: 07/15/2000 12:39:16 AM

> Subject: Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

>

> Lash,

>

> the URL is: http://www.cerebrex.com/tdplamps.html and I

> recommend the MF floor model if you can afford it.($1000) The

> first model if you can't. ($235) I recommend against the table

> model of the MF lamp. A good solid base with an articulated arm

> for precise positioning is essential.

>

> jim

>

> LASHLIN@... wrote:

> >

> > Jim,

> > Please re-post the information on how to order the FIR lamp,

including

> > what make and model you might recommend.

> > Thanks,

> > Lash

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I have no personal experience but I've been told that chiropractors can help

with carpal tunnel problems.

- Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

Anyone with carpal tunnel should be on a

supplement high in vitamin B6. Also a B complex

with Vitamin B2 also.

Give it 6-8 weeks and see if it is better.

JP

Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

> On a related issue: what can be done for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome? I have a

> friend who is experiencing extreme pain, but doesn't want to take

excessive

> amounts of cortisone shots, which at this point is the only option she's

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> given.

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Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

>On a related issue: what can be done for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome? I have a

>friend who is experiencing extreme pain, but doesn't want to take excessive

>amounts of cortisone shots, which at this point is the only option she's

been

>given.

>

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Bill,

Cerebrex's IS a better price than the ones I looked at before

recommending him. I have seen his $235 TDP lamp as high as $450

and the $700 desk model MF lamp for about $1300!

If some people wanted to get together an order, I can come up

with the importer-exporter in Canada I came across. They have

high minimum orders as I recall.

jim

Bill Kingsbury wrote:

>

> Hi Jim

> Any ideas on where, or how to get a better price on

> this new " Bio-spectrum Multi-frequency TDP Lamp " with

> the floor stand - which has a list price of $1000 ?

>

> Thanks

> Bill

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In a message dated 7/15/00 6:09:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

saul@... writes:

<< Dear Jim,

Count me in for the $235 TDP lamp.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

>>

Jim,

That goes for me too! One DP lamp at $235

Lash

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Dear Jim,

Count me in for the $235 TDP lamp.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

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Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

> Bill,

>

> Cerebrex's IS a better price than the ones I looked at before

> recommending him. I have seen his $235 TDP lamp as high as $450

> and the $700 desk model MF lamp for about $1300!

>

> If some people wanted to get together an order, I can come up

> with the importer-exporter in Canada I came across. They have

> high minimum orders as I recall.

>

> jim

>

> Bill Kingsbury wrote:

> >

> > Hi Jim

> > Any ideas on where, or how to get a better price on

> > this new " Bio-spectrum Multi-frequency TDP Lamp " with

> > the floor stand - which has a list price of $1000 ?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Bill

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Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

> In a message dated 7/15/00 6:09:21 PM Eastern Daylight

Time,

> saul@... writes:

>

> << Dear Jim,

>

> Count me in for the $235 TDP lamp.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

> >>

>

> Jim,

> That goes for me too! One DP lamp at $235

> Lash

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Re: re: HBOT and Pain in Muscles

>

>

> > Bill,

> >

> > Cerebrex's IS a better price than the ones I looked at before

> > recommending him. I have seen his $235 TDP lamp as high as $450

> > and the $700 desk model MF lamp for about $1300!

> >

> > If some people wanted to get together an order, I can come up

> > with the importer-exporter in Canada I came across. They have

> > high minimum orders as I recall.

> >

> > jim

> >

> > Bill Kingsbury wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Jim

> > > Any ideas on where, or how to get a better price on

> > > this new " Bio-spectrum Multi-frequency TDP Lamp " with

> > > the floor stand - which has a list price of $1000 ?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Bill

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