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> Ann Marie - who's gonna get back to working out as soon as she's well-

> rested after her hubby's ordeal

>

Don't rush it, Ann Marie. You have been through the wringer (sp?) lately.

It's so good to see your posts again.

Elena

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> Jill

> who cannot understand why fiends I've recommended it to will not try

> it out, I guess they can only be happy living in pain and discomfort.

>

Jill, I just want to note that I checked the cite you recommended and I

remember finding that there were not Bowen providers anywhere near me. If

there are not any near Wash. D.C. (where I am), there may not be many in the

U.S.A. That could be one reason. The other thing is good old American

health insurance and PPOs (preferred providers) in my case. Under my very

generous insurance, there is such a great incentive to use a PPO covered by

insurance co., that I tend to stay away from other non-covered health

providers. Just a thought.

Elena, who is glad you are doing so well!

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From: " jill " >

> Jill

> who cannot understand why fiends I've recommended it to will not try

> it out, I guess they can only be happy living in pain and discomfort.

>

Jill, I just want to note that I checked the cite you recommended and I

remember finding that there were not Bowen providers anywhere near me. If

there are not any near Wash. D.C. (where I am), there may not be many in the

U.S.A. That could be one reason. The other thing is good old American

health insurance and PPOs (preferred providers) in my case. Under my very

generous insurance, there is such a great incentive to use a PPO covered by

insurance co., that I tend to stay away from other non-covered health

providers. Just a thought.

Elena, who is glad you are doing so well!

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Thanks, Elena, that was my thinking on the situation too.

Not only am I worn out and can't get up any earlier than I am now, my

morning schedule is thrown off because Bob is home. Usually, he'd be

leaving for work when I would be starting my workout. I'm just hoping

not to fall into the habit of not working out. Mentally I want to

get back to it, but the physical/energy part is lacking.

Ann Marie - who hopes Elena will be feeling great soon!

> ---- Original Message -----

> From: <ann.marie.kleiber@w...>

> > Ann Marie - who's gonna get back to working out as soon as she's

well-

> > rested after her hubby's ordeal

> >

> Don't rush it, Ann Marie. You have been through the wringer (sp?)

lately.

> It's so good to see your posts again.

>

> Elena

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Thanks, Elena, that was my thinking on the situation too.

Not only am I worn out and can't get up any earlier than I am now, my

morning schedule is thrown off because Bob is home. Usually, he'd be

leaving for work when I would be starting my workout. I'm just hoping

not to fall into the habit of not working out. Mentally I want to

get back to it, but the physical/energy part is lacking.

Ann Marie - who hopes Elena will be feeling great soon!

> ---- Original Message -----

> From: <ann.marie.kleiber@w...>

> > Ann Marie - who's gonna get back to working out as soon as she's

well-

> > rested after her hubby's ordeal

> >

> Don't rush it, Ann Marie. You have been through the wringer (sp?)

lately.

> It's so good to see your posts again.

>

> Elena

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Thanks for the advise, Alli! A hot shower or bath sounds great whether it

helps or not - LOL!

Caroline, who had no time to taebo today, but spent 4 hours raking and

pulling up the veggie garden....good substitution I guess.

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Hi Caroline!

I'm 25, and was a very active athlete when I was in elementary/high

school. Pretty much ALL of my joints make funny noises. Not all of

the time, and not with any noticeable pattern. I have had knee

problems (I am pigeon-toed, so my knees turn in and do not rotate

correctly, resulting in bone on bone where there should be cartilege

and a very unpleasant grinding sound sometimes!), but my hips,

ankles, shoulders, elbows, and wrists have never caused me any pain,

but do " pop " and make sounds quite a bit. My orthopedic doctor said

that the only thing he saw wrong with me was the knee issue, which

could be the cause of my ankle & hip popping, since my legs are

pretty much entirely mis-aligned, but no other issues. Sadly, after

blathering on about my similar experience, the only advice I have to

offer is a hot bath/shower after your workout. This really seems to

relax my muscles and loosen everything up that may be feeling tight.

Sounds generic and pretty standard, but I figured I would contribute!

Good luck!

Alli

> Question

>

>

> OK, Group....I need your advice..............

>

> Recently when working out, my hips (ball & soccet joints) are

popping. It

> doesn't hurt...just really annoying feeling. Have any of you

experienced

> this? I think my form is correct, so I don't think I am

injurying myself.

> Is it just old age (pushing the big 4-0!!!)

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> Caroline, who hasn't posted in a while, but still reading

>

>

>

>

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Hi Caroline!

I'm 25, and was a very active athlete when I was in elementary/high

school. Pretty much ALL of my joints make funny noises. Not all of

the time, and not with any noticeable pattern. I have had knee

problems (I am pigeon-toed, so my knees turn in and do not rotate

correctly, resulting in bone on bone where there should be cartilege

and a very unpleasant grinding sound sometimes!), but my hips,

ankles, shoulders, elbows, and wrists have never caused me any pain,

but do " pop " and make sounds quite a bit. My orthopedic doctor said

that the only thing he saw wrong with me was the knee issue, which

could be the cause of my ankle & hip popping, since my legs are

pretty much entirely mis-aligned, but no other issues. Sadly, after

blathering on about my similar experience, the only advice I have to

offer is a hot bath/shower after your workout. This really seems to

relax my muscles and loosen everything up that may be feeling tight.

Sounds generic and pretty standard, but I figured I would contribute!

Good luck!

Alli

> Question

>

>

> OK, Group....I need your advice..............

>

> Recently when working out, my hips (ball & soccet joints) are

popping. It

> doesn't hurt...just really annoying feeling. Have any of you

experienced

> this? I think my form is correct, so I don't think I am

injurying myself.

> Is it just old age (pushing the big 4-0!!!)

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> Caroline, who hasn't posted in a while, but still reading

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

I don't know where you live but I've just been going through this with my

son. I can only tell you what the " expert " in my area shared with me at my

son's recent re-evaluation. We live near Ann Arbor so he was seen at U of M

Developmental Disorders Clinic. There is a form of High-Functioning Autism

called Aspergers. It can include aggressive behavior as part of the problem.

My son is considered a mixed bag with features of both Aspergers and Classic

Autism. Aspergers has components of Bipolar disorder with it - rapid

emotional changes, mood instability, unpredictability, aggression. There are

several medication routes you can take. Our doctor recommended trying SSRI's

- Luvox, Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft. If your child tends to be hyperactive, don't

try Prozac first. It can cause more irritability and hyperactivity - it did

with our son. The doctor also said that there is no magic pill he could

suggest - most of the time the kids build up a tolerance to whatever

medication they are on. If you go to a psychiatrist and they suggest a mood

stabilizer such as Seroquel or Risperadol be forewarned that they will work

for awhile but your child is likely to gain 30 to 40 pounds. Then you will

have a child that is even more difficult to physically manage.

I can tell you that I had to pull my son out of regular inclusion with an

aid and place him in a day treatment center (school for Emotionally Impaired

children). This is considered a " no-no " by most autism specialists and

parents but so far, they've really been able to help my son. It is true that

the other kids pick on him and are less tolerant of his behaviors than

normal children but there are only ten children in the class, three aids, a

teacher and a social worker. Nothing gets out of hand. Also, he gets a class

in anger management four days a week. The staff use every chance the get to

help him slow down his temper and to think things through. A regular school

just cannot offer this kind of support. The day treatment center is run by

the Intermediate School District and costs me nothing out of my pocket. I

would guess if it were a private institution, I'd be looking at 45,000 to

80,000 a year. Your school district may have such a facility run by your

county only nobody talks about it (my son's psychiatrist told me about it,

not the public school staff). I hope that helps. Good luck... do what you

can to get you and your son support now.

-Eleanor

>

> I have a question about my son, he is eight years old. He is

> diagnosed with Autistic disorder, hes considered more on the end of

> high funcioning. Lately I have noticed his behavior has been chaning.

> He is getting increasingly harder to control, he seems to becoming

> paranoid, he has also been acting out a bit at me, he shakes his fist

> at me, he also has kicked me. Do Autistic children get harder to

> mangage as they age? I am a single mother, he is my only son, I dont

> have any friends who are experiencing this. My son isnt on any kind

> of medication. Any advice or help would be greatly appreiciated.

> Thank you!!!

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JJ started this when he was 12- He is 14 now and is doing

MUCH better!!!!!! His was "Hormone" related. Once he got over the hormone

thing he has been doing good. He also takes 0.5mg of resperdal. That has

helped him alot too. Lois

goldie536@... wrote:

I have a question about my son, he is eight years

old. He is

diagnosed with Autistic disorder, hes considered more on the end of

high funcioning. Lately I have noticed his behavior has been chaning.

He is getting increasingly harder to control, he seems to becoming

paranoid, he has also been acting out a bit at me, he shakes his fist

at me, he also has kicked me. Do Autistic children get harder to

mangage as they age? I am a single mother, he is my only son, I dont

have any friends who are experiencing this. My son isnt on any kind

of medication. Any advice or help would be greatly appreiciated.

Thank you!!!

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JJ has been on resperdal for a year and is 14 and weighs a whopping 75

pounds!!!!!! Not all the kids gain a lot of weight. Depends on the child. It

also helped him with the agression. Lois

Eleanor wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I don't know where you live but I've just been going through this with my

> son. I can only tell you what the " expert " in my area shared with me at my

> son's recent re-evaluation. We live near Ann Arbor so he was seen at U of M

> Developmental Disorders Clinic. There is a form of High-Functioning Autism

> called Aspergers. It can include aggressive behavior as part of the problem.

> My son is considered a mixed bag with features of both Aspergers and Classic

> Autism. Aspergers has components of Bipolar disorder with it - rapid

> emotional changes, mood instability, unpredictability, aggression. There are

> several medication routes you can take. Our doctor recommended trying SSRI's

> - Luvox, Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft. If your child tends to be hyperactive, don't

> try Prozac first. It can cause more irritability and hyperactivity - it did

> with our son. The doctor also said that there is no magic pill he could

> suggest - most of the time the kids build up a tolerance to whatever

> medication they are on. If you go to a psychiatrist and they suggest a mood

> stabilizer such as Seroquel or Risperadol be forewarned that they will work

> for awhile but your child is likely to gain 30 to 40 pounds. Then you will

> have a child that is even more difficult to physically manage.

>

> I can tell you that I had to pull my son out of regular inclusion with an

> aid and place him in a day treatment center (school for Emotionally Impaired

> children). This is considered a " no-no " by most autism specialists and

> parents but so far, they've really been able to help my son. It is true that

> the other kids pick on him and are less tolerant of his behaviors than

> normal children but there are only ten children in the class, three aids, a

> teacher and a social worker. Nothing gets out of hand. Also, he gets a class

> in anger management four days a week. The staff use every chance the get to

> help him slow down his temper and to think things through. A regular school

> just cannot offer this kind of support. The day treatment center is run by

> the Intermediate School District and costs me nothing out of my pocket. I

> would guess if it were a private institution, I'd be looking at 45,000 to

> 80,000 a year. Your school district may have such a facility run by your

> county only nobody talks about it (my son's psychiatrist told me about it,

> not the public school staff). I hope that helps. Good luck... do what you

> can to get you and your son support now.

>

> -Eleanor

>

> >

> > I have a question about my son, he is eight years old. He is

> > diagnosed with Autistic disorder, hes considered more on the end of

> > high funcioning. Lately I have noticed his behavior has been chaning.

> > He is getting increasingly harder to control, he seems to becoming

> > paranoid, he has also been acting out a bit at me, he shakes his fist

> > at me, he also has kicked me. Do Autistic children get harder to

> > mangage as they age? I am a single mother, he is my only son, I dont

> > have any friends who are experiencing this. My son isnt on any kind

> > of medication. Any advice or help would be greatly appreiciated.

> > Thank you!!!

>

>

>

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Has his routine changed? He may be acting out due to frustration, not understanding, not fitting in.... there is a whole string of reasons. Look at routine, diet, school activities, change in teacher's routine.

If you need to call me please feel free. ph is on the high-functioning end as well.

Marilyn Upton

-----Original Message-----From: goldie536@... [mailto:goldie536@...]Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 6:15 PMautism Subject: questionI have a question about my son, he is eight years old. He is diagnosed with Autistic disorder, hes considered more on the end of high funcioning. Lately I have noticed his behavior has been chaning. He is getting increasingly harder to control, he seems to becoming paranoid, he has also been acting out a bit at me, he shakes his fist at me, he also has kicked me. Do Autistic children get harder to mangage as they age? I am a single mother, he is my only son, I dont have any friends who are experiencing this. My son isnt on any kind of medication. Any advice or help would be greatly appreiciated. Thank you!!!

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I agree, mine is 12 and weighs a whopping 65 lbs! He is on adderoll, and has been for 3 years now. I take him on in the summer time and over long holiday periods, but during school it really helps with focusing. Some activities will never be focused on because that is what autism/asbergers is all about - lack of auditory processing!

-----Original Message-----From: Lois Noland [mailto:jlois@...]Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:14 PMautism Subject: Re: questionJJ has been on resperdal for a year and is 14 and weighs a whopping 75pounds!!!!!! Not all the kids gain a lot of weight. Depends on the child. Italso helped him with the agression. LoisEleanor wrote:> Hi,>> I don't know where you live but I've just been going through this with my> son. I can only tell you what the "expert" in my area shared with me at my> son's recent re-evaluation. We live near Ann Arbor so he was seen at U of M> Developmental Disorders Clinic. There is a form of High-Functioning Autism> called Aspergers. It can include aggressive behavior as part of the problem.> My son is considered a mixed bag with features of both Aspergers and Classic> Autism. Aspergers has components of Bipolar disorder with it - rapid> emotional changes, mood instability, unpredictability, aggression. There are> several medication routes you can take. Our doctor recommended trying SSRI's> - Luvox, Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft. If your child tends to be hyperactive, don't> try Prozac first. It can cause more irritability and hyperactivity - it did> with our son. The doctor also said that there is no magic pill he could> suggest - most of the time the kids build up a tolerance to whatever> medication they are on. If you go to a psychiatrist and they suggest a mood> stabilizer such as Seroquel or Risperadol be forewarned that they will work> for awhile but your child is likely to gain 30 to 40 pounds. Then you will> have a child that is even more difficult to physically manage.>> I can tell you that I had to pull my son out of regular inclusion with an> aid and place him in a day treatment center (school for Emotionally Impaired> children). This is considered a "no-no" by most autism specialists and> parents but so far, they've really been able to help my son. It is true that> the other kids pick on him and are less tolerant of his behaviors than> normal children but there are only ten children in the class, three aids, a> teacher and a social worker. Nothing gets out of hand. Also, he gets a class> in anger management four days a week. The staff use every chance the get to> help him slow down his temper and to think things through. A regular school> just cannot offer this kind of support. The day treatment center is run by> the Intermediate School District and costs me nothing out of my pocket. I> would guess if it were a private institution, I'd be looking at 45,000 to> 80,000 a year. Your school district may have such a facility run by your> county only nobody talks about it (my son's psychiatrist told me about it,> not the public school staff). I hope that helps. Good luck... do what you> can to get you and your son support now.>> -Eleanor>> >> > I have a question about my son, he is eight years old. He is> > diagnosed with Autistic disorder, hes considered more on the end of> > high funcioning. Lately I have noticed his behavior has been chaning.> > He is getting increasingly harder to control, he seems to becoming> > paranoid, he has also been acting out a bit at me, he shakes his fist> > at me, he also has kicked me. Do Autistic children get harder to> > mangage as they age? I am a single mother, he is my only son, I dont> > have any friends who are experiencing this. My son isnt on any kind> > of medication. Any advice or help would be greatly appreiciated.> > Thank you!!!>>>

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My books tell me you can paint on a thin coat of parafin wax that has been

melted. Shine with a nylon stocking. They said the picture/decal will last

the lifetime of the soap. Haven't tried it yet, but plan to soon. Lana.

Question

> Can someone tell me how to waterproof my labels.? I read somewhere that

you

> can coat them with something, However, I don't remember " what " . I just

think

> it might give a nicer look to them. Appreciate any help

> Thanks the other Holly ()

>

>

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Holly,

You can use the Krylon Top Coat spray.

Kristi

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Can someone tell me how to waterproof my labels.? I read somewhere that you

can coat them with something, However, I don't remember " what " . I just

think

it might give a nicer look to them. Appreciate any help

Thanks the other Holly ()

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Waterproof them before you put them on the jar - spray. I don't know if

there is something you can paint on - maybe someone else knows. Kristi

Re: Question

Dumb 2nd Question. How do you get the spray on without messing up the jar.,

or do you do it with a paint brush??? Thanks for responding

Kristi--------Holly S

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you sent an email to my address kdy@... but there was a

virus - so AVG deleted all the content. Send to me again as soon as you get

it cleared up =)

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