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but in a lot of states you can't sell fresh milk.....legally that is....

Re: Re: cost of raw milk

There is no need to sell to a processor. The milk goes direct from farm to consumer. Most small farms don’t make enough milk to bulk tank and sell that way.j-- www.goodnessgraciousacres.comBecome a fan on FBDelilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soaphttp://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j

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There is a near perfect correlation between block cheddar traded on the

Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) and farm milk price. Blocks actually

closed at $1.60 today and since the normal yield would be about ten

pounds of cheese per hundredweight, one might think farm milk price

would be in the $16/hundredweight range. At 11.62 gallons per

hundredweight, the per gallon price would be $1.38. But, cheese has only

recently gone up. Most of the increase has been on " bids " with no actual

cheese traded.

Last month, June, the FOB price was $13.70. This arrangement of the CME

pricing milk is the result of Reagan signing a bill in '81

eliminating " parity. " Parity farm milk price kept farm milk price rising

at the general rate of inflation. The argument was that farmers were

overproducing - not true. Dairy farmers tended to buy the argument and

voted for Reagan twice.

USDA publishes each month a report " Agricultural Prices "

http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/usda/current/AgriPric/AgriPric-06-29-2010.pdf

On page 23 you will see that with parity, farm milk price would have

been $41.60 per hundredweight or $3.70 per gallon.

At the commercial level the pricing of farm milk is corrupt beyond

imagination. All made possible because USDA attaches it formula to a

price determined at the CME by less than a handful of players.

Randy & Ro wrote:

>

> Our field rep told us to watch the CME block cheese price to get our

> milk price. (our processor makes cheese) Today it closed up and

> finished the day at 16¢/pound or $16/CWT (hundred weight) If I

> calculated right that would be right around $1.28 a gallon from the

> processor. I think that may pretty much the norm across the country??

> I'm guesstimating as we are still new to this aspect of dairying. Our

> field rep stopped last week and said we must be doing something right

> because our dairy/herd/milk was in the processors top 10% of their

> producers. They use our numbers, SCC, protein, milk fat, other solids,

> bacteria count etc to determine this.

>

> * Re: cost of raw milk

>

> I don't know about other states but here in WI, the farmers get

> $1-2/gallon from a processor and they sell raw milk for

> $4-7/gallon. in those states where raw milk costs $15/gallon, how

> much would the farmer get if he sold it to a processor?

>

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There is a near perfect correlation between block cheddar traded on the

Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) and farm milk price. Blocks actually

closed at $1.60 today and since the normal yield would be about ten

pounds of cheese per hundredweight, one might think farm milk price

would be in the $16/hundredweight range. At 11.62 gallons per

hundredweight, the per gallon price would be $1.38. But, cheese has only

recently gone up. Most of the increase has been on " bids " with no actual

cheese traded.

Last month, June, the FOB price was $13.70. This arrangement of the CME

pricing milk is the result of Reagan signing a bill in '81

eliminating " parity. " Parity farm milk price kept farm milk price rising

at the general rate of inflation. The argument was that farmers were

overproducing - not true. Dairy farmers tended to buy the argument and

voted for Reagan twice.

USDA publishes each month a report " Agricultural Prices "

http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/usda/current/AgriPric/AgriPric-06-29-2010.pdf

On page 23 you will see that with parity, farm milk price would have

been $41.60 per hundredweight or $3.70 per gallon.

At the commercial level the pricing of farm milk is corrupt beyond

imagination. All made possible because USDA attaches it formula to a

price determined at the CME by less than a handful of players.

Randy & Ro wrote:

>

> Our field rep told us to watch the CME block cheese price to get our

> milk price. (our processor makes cheese) Today it closed up and

> finished the day at 16¢/pound or $16/CWT (hundred weight) If I

> calculated right that would be right around $1.28 a gallon from the

> processor. I think that may pretty much the norm across the country??

> I'm guesstimating as we are still new to this aspect of dairying. Our

> field rep stopped last week and said we must be doing something right

> because our dairy/herd/milk was in the processors top 10% of their

> producers. They use our numbers, SCC, protein, milk fat, other solids,

> bacteria count etc to determine this.

>

> * Re: cost of raw milk

>

> I don't know about other states but here in WI, the farmers get

> $1-2/gallon from a processor and they sell raw milk for

> $4-7/gallon. in those states where raw milk costs $15/gallon, how

> much would the farmer get if he sold it to a processor?

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So is 'fresh' cheese, also illegal in these states where milk is made illegal? It seemed to me in reading some websites on quality cheeses, including raw cheeses, that the legality was not a topic of concern... and then what about raw butter as well?Maybe we can do an end run around the established invalid lawmakers and little-people-punishing bureaucrats by putting our efforts into cheese and butter, then let them explain that inconsistency to the still sleep-drugged dumbed-down public. Noticing that 'sleep-drugged dumbed-down people' is somewhat a hoped-for category and not that there are downright evil little-people-punishing populations of considerable size to support the bureaucrats that we are dealing with in our own area where only herdshares are legal, and maybe petmilk, which I haven't located yet. And couldn't those people with health needs for raw milk (with allowance for wee little drinkers) be able to get the nutrients they needed if they were enabled to get cheeses and butter easily online. Otherwise it would be just those of us who eat lots of cheese and could use raw butter if it was easily available, online most likely since stores are not as eager to 'lead' as we are. Wouldn't you say that this idea would get past the 'enemy lines'?MJ Re: Re: cost of raw milk

but in a lot of states you can't sell fresh milk.....legally that is....

Re: Re: cost of raw milk

There is no need to sell to a processor. The milk goes direct from farm to consumer. Most small farms donÂ’t make enough milk to bulk tank and sell that way.j-- www.goodnessgraciousacres.comBecome a fan on FBDelilahÂ’s Dairy Goat Milk Soaphttp://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j

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Canada is a lot more expensive than that when compared dollar to dollar. But on the other hand you have to look at cost of living. 90% of the products we buy are almost double what I can purchase them for in the U.S. Drives me nuts to see Canadian products on U.S. shelves for half the price we pay for them up here. Hay is going for up to $9.00/ 50 lb. bale, and this translates into higher costs for raw in this country. Our fuel is running at $4.60/gallon. Raw milk producers would be bankrupt at U.S. prices as would mainstream dairy. BC, Canada Here in NE Oklahoma Raw goat milk is between $5-$8 a gallon, I'm not sure about raw cow milk though. In Oklahoma you can legally sell 100 gallons of Raw Goat milk per month without a license.Suriyah ________Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma,http://www.goodgoats.netBlog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:51 PM, artofbma wrote: 10.00 for Raw Milk in Tampa Florida.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: " Low" <stephanielowembarqmail> Sender: RawDairy Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:42:02 -0700To: <RawDairy >ReplyTo: RawDairy Subject: Re: Re: cost of raw milk I'm in NV. We pay around $7-8 a gallon. From: carolyn_graff Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:57 AM To: RawDairy Subject: Re: cost of raw milk I don't know about other states but here in WI, the farmers get $1-2/gallon from a processor and they sell raw milk for $4-7/gallon. in those states where raw milk costs $15/gallon, how much would the farmer get if he sold it to a processor? ---------First of all, I was assuming that CWT meant 'hundred weight'? Asin by the pound, so $25/CWT would have been roughly $2/gal sincea gallon weighs a little over 8 lbs.But then the numbers go berserk and we're then talking about$15/gal. No such high markup (from $2 to $15) exists anywhere,not even in the high fashion rag industry. Something isn'tmaking sense. Are you saying that the bigAg dairy price settersare giving you $2/gal and then the entire rest is their greedmoney? No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3017 - Release Date: 07/19/10 23:36:00 Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.Kurtis Stavenwww.wildthingorganics.ca

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Canada is a lot more expensive than that when compared dollar to dollar. But on the other hand you have to look at cost of living. 90% of the products we buy are almost double what I can purchase them for in the U.S. Drives me nuts to see Canadian products on U.S. shelves for half the price we pay for them up here. Hay is going for up to $9.00/ 50 lb. bale, and this translates into higher costs for raw in this country. Our fuel is running at $4.60/gallon. Raw milk producers would be bankrupt at U.S. prices as would mainstream dairy. BC, Canada Here in NE Oklahoma Raw goat milk is between $5-$8 a gallon, I'm not sure about raw cow milk though. In Oklahoma you can legally sell 100 gallons of Raw Goat milk per month without a license.Suriyah ________Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma,http://www.goodgoats.netBlog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:51 PM, artofbma wrote: 10.00 for Raw Milk in Tampa Florida.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: " Low" <stephanielowembarqmail> Sender: RawDairy Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:42:02 -0700To: <RawDairy >ReplyTo: RawDairy Subject: Re: Re: cost of raw milk I'm in NV. We pay around $7-8 a gallon. From: carolyn_graff Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:57 AM To: RawDairy Subject: Re: cost of raw milk I don't know about other states but here in WI, the farmers get $1-2/gallon from a processor and they sell raw milk for $4-7/gallon. in those states where raw milk costs $15/gallon, how much would the farmer get if he sold it to a processor? ---------First of all, I was assuming that CWT meant 'hundred weight'? Asin by the pound, so $25/CWT would have been roughly $2/gal sincea gallon weighs a little over 8 lbs.But then the numbers go berserk and we're then talking about$15/gal. No such high markup (from $2 to $15) exists anywhere,not even in the high fashion rag industry. Something isn'tmaking sense. Are you saying that the bigAg dairy price settersare giving you $2/gal and then the entire rest is their greedmoney? No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3017 - Release Date: 07/19/10 23:36:00 Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.Kurtis Stavenwww.wildthingorganics.ca

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Ours is a raw milk cheese, but we must age it for 60 days to be able to sell it legally. Which of course restricts us to hard cheeses, no soft cheeses which we get requests for often. We also cannot sell the cheese curd which so many people ask for.

And this is a state that you CAN sell raw milk in. DixonOzark JewelsNubians and Lamanchaswww.ozarkjewels.netMorningland Dairy Raw Milk Cheeseswww.morninglanddairy.com

Subject: Re: Re: cost of raw milkTo: RawDairy Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 9:09 AM

So is 'fresh' cheese, also illegal in these states where milk is made illegal? It seemed to me in reading some websites on quality cheeses, including raw cheeses, that the legality was not a topic of concern... and then what about raw butter as well?

Maybe we can do an end run around the established invalid lawmakers and little-people- punishing bureaucrats by putting our efforts into cheese and butter, then let them explain that inconsistency to the still sleep-drugged dumbed-down public.

Noticing that 'sleep-drugged dumbed-down people' is somewhat a hoped-for category and not that there are downright evil little-people- punishing populations of considerable size to support the bureaucrats that we are dealing with in our own area where only herdshares are legal, and maybe petmilk, which I haven't located yet. And couldn't those people with health needs for raw milk (with allowance for wee little drinkers) be able to get the nutrients they needed if they were enabled to get cheeses and butter easily online. Otherwise it would be just those of us who eat lots of cheese and could use raw butter if it was easily available, online most likely since stores are not as eager to 'lead' as we are. Wouldn't you say that this idea would get past the 'enemy lines'?

MJ

Re: Re: cost of raw milk

but in a lot of states you can't sell fresh milk.....legally that is....

Re: Re: cost of raw milk

There is no need to sell to a processor. The milk goes direct from farm to consumer. Most small farms dont make enough milk to bulk tank and sell that way.j-- www.goodnessgraciou sacres.comBecome a fan on FBDelilahs Dairy Goat Milk Soaphttp://tinyurl. com/yzbq5j

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In Ontario, on a weekly basis I get raw cow's milk for $4/gallon, and can get raw goat's milk for $12/gallon.Calvin.Canada is a lot more expensive than that when compared dollar to dollar. But on the other hand you have to look at cost of living. 90% of the products we buy are almost double what I can purchase them for in the U.S. Drives me nuts to see Canadian products on U.S. shelves for half the price we pay for them up here. Hay is going for up to $9.00/ 50 lb. bale, and this translates into higher costs for raw in this country. Our fuel is running at $4.60/gallon. Raw milk producers would be bankrupt at U.S. prices as would mainstream dairy.BC, Canada

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In Ontario, on a weekly basis I get raw cow's milk for $4/gallon, and can get raw goat's milk for $12/gallon.Calvin.Canada is a lot more expensive than that when compared dollar to dollar. But on the other hand you have to look at cost of living. 90% of the products we buy are almost double what I can purchase them for in the U.S. Drives me nuts to see Canadian products on U.S. shelves for half the price we pay for them up here. Hay is going for up to $9.00/ 50 lb. bale, and this translates into higher costs for raw in this country. Our fuel is running at $4.60/gallon. Raw milk producers would be bankrupt at U.S. prices as would mainstream dairy.BC, Canada

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in states where raw milk is illegal, fresh raw cheese and raw butter are also

illegal. raw cheese that is aged 60 days is legal. also, it's illegal to ship

raw dairy across state lines. some farmers label it as pet food and then ship

it.

------

So is 'fresh' cheese, also illegal in these states where milk is

made illegal? It seemed to me in reading some websites on

quality cheeses, including raw cheeses, that the legality was not

a topic of concern... and then what about raw butter as well?

Maybe we can do an end run around the established invalid

lawmakers and little-people-punishing bureaucrats by putting our

efforts into cheese and butter, then let them explain that

inconsistency to the still sleep-drugged dumbed-down public.

Noticing that 'sleep-drugged dumbed-down people' is somewhat a

hoped-for category and not that there are downright evil

little-people-punishing populations of considerable size to

support the bureaucrats that we are dealing with in our own area

where only herdshares are legal, and maybe petmilk, which I

haven't located yet.

And couldn't those people with health needs for raw milk (with

allowance for wee little drinkers) be able to get the nutrients

they needed if they were enabled to get cheeses and butter easily

online. Otherwise it would be just those of us who eat lots of

cheese and could use raw butter if it was easily available,

online most likely since stores are not as eager to 'lead' as we

are. Wouldn't you say that this idea would get past the 'enemy

lines'?

MJ

[Guest guest]

in states where raw milk is illegal, fresh raw cheese and raw butter are also

illegal. raw cheese that is aged 60 days is legal. also, it's illegal to ship

raw dairy across state lines. some farmers label it as pet food and then ship

it.

------

So is 'fresh' cheese, also illegal in these states where milk is

made illegal? It seemed to me in reading some websites on

quality cheeses, including raw cheeses, that the legality was not

a topic of concern... and then what about raw butter as well?

Maybe we can do an end run around the established invalid

lawmakers and little-people-punishing bureaucrats by putting our

efforts into cheese and butter, then let them explain that

inconsistency to the still sleep-drugged dumbed-down public.

Noticing that 'sleep-drugged dumbed-down people' is somewhat a

hoped-for category and not that there are downright evil

little-people-punishing populations of considerable size to

support the bureaucrats that we are dealing with in our own area

where only herdshares are legal, and maybe petmilk, which I

haven't located yet.

And couldn't those people with health needs for raw milk (with

allowance for wee little drinkers) be able to get the nutrients

they needed if they were enabled to get cheeses and butter easily

online. Otherwise it would be just those of us who eat lots of

cheese and could use raw butter if it was easily available,

online most likely since stores are not as eager to 'lead' as we

are. Wouldn't you say that this idea would get past the 'enemy

lines'?

MJ

[Guest guest]

in states where raw milk is illegal, fresh raw cheese and raw butter are also

illegal. raw cheese that is aged 60 days is legal. also, it's illegal to ship

raw dairy across state lines. some farmers label it as pet food and then ship

it.

------

So is 'fresh' cheese, also illegal in these states where milk is

made illegal? It seemed to me in reading some websites on

quality cheeses, including raw cheeses, that the legality was not

a topic of concern... and then what about raw butter as well?

Maybe we can do an end run around the established invalid

lawmakers and little-people-punishing bureaucrats by putting our

efforts into cheese and butter, then let them explain that

inconsistency to the still sleep-drugged dumbed-down public.

Noticing that 'sleep-drugged dumbed-down people' is somewhat a

hoped-for category and not that there are downright evil

little-people-punishing populations of considerable size to

support the bureaucrats that we are dealing with in our own area

where only herdshares are legal, and maybe petmilk, which I

haven't located yet.

And couldn't those people with health needs for raw milk (with

allowance for wee little drinkers) be able to get the nutrients

they needed if they were enabled to get cheeses and butter easily

online. Otherwise it would be just those of us who eat lots of

cheese and could use raw butter if it was easily available,

online most likely since stores are not as eager to 'lead' as we

are. Wouldn't you say that this idea would get past the 'enemy

lines'?

MJ

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Is it done as a hobby or business? Or do you refer to a dairy that skims the bulk tank for some pocket cash? Do they feed to a requested shareholder standard? What are the feed inputs? Do they grain? All this makes a huge difference. With our share standards we can't even support feed costs for that, let alone pay heat light etc..... In Ontario, on a weekly basis I get raw cow's milk for $4/gallon, and can get raw goat's milk for $12/gallon.Calvin.Canada is a lot more expensive than that when compared dollar to dollar. But on the other hand you have to look at cost of living. 90% of the products we buy are almost double what I can purchase them for in the U.S. Drives me nuts to see Canadian products on U.S. shelves for half the price we pay for them up here. Hay is going for up to $9.00/ 50 lb. bale, and this translates into higher costs for raw in this country. Our fuel is running at $4.60/gallon. Raw milk producers would be bankrupt at U.S. prices as would mainstream dairy.BC, Canada Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.Kurtis Stavenwww.wildthingorganics.ca

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Is it done as a hobby or business? Or do you refer to a dairy that skims the bulk tank for some pocket cash? Do they feed to a requested shareholder standard? What are the feed inputs? Do they grain? All this makes a huge difference. With our share standards we can't even support feed costs for that, let alone pay heat light etc..... In Ontario, on a weekly basis I get raw cow's milk for $4/gallon, and can get raw goat's milk for $12/gallon.Calvin.Canada is a lot more expensive than that when compared dollar to dollar. But on the other hand you have to look at cost of living. 90% of the products we buy are almost double what I can purchase them for in the U.S. Drives me nuts to see Canadian products on U.S. shelves for half the price we pay for them up here. Hay is going for up to $9.00/ 50 lb. bale, and this translates into higher costs for raw in this country. Our fuel is running at $4.60/gallon. Raw milk producers would be bankrupt at U.S. prices as would mainstream dairy.BC, Canada Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.Kurtis Stavenwww.wildthingorganics.ca

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I've only read the books of Salatin and his 'salad bar beef' which is not dairy.... is there an equivalent leader in the dairy side of this sort of inventive, counter-culture move to new agriculture? We sure would like to read his designs.This remark below sounds just like a 'bank barn' problem where the farmer has been led to believe that certain ways of doing things are the only way to get from point A to point B, which Salatin undoes magnificently for beef, chicken, pork and you name your meat. Rabbit, turkey, etc by imitating some blend of nature and human-scale creativity. He demolishes bank barn ideas quite handsomely if not as postcard pretty, but clearly with the approval and collaboration of his animal friends whom he protects fiercely.MJ Re: Re: cost of raw milk

Is it done as a hobby or business? Or do you refer to a dairy that skims the bulk tank for some pocket cash? Do they feed to a requested shareholder standard? What are the feed inputs? Do they grain? All this makes a huge difference. With our share standards we can't even support feed costs for that, let alone pay heat light etc..... In Ontario, on a weekly basis I get raw cow's milk for $4/gallon, and can get raw goat's milk for $12/gallon.Calvin.Canada is a lot more expensive than that when compared dollar to dollar. But on the other hand you have to look at cost of living. 90% of the products we buy are almost double what I can purchase them for in the U.S. Drives me nuts to see Canadian products on U.S. shelves for half the price we pay for them up here. Hay is going for up to $9.00/ 50 lb. bale, and this translates into higher costs for raw in this country. Our fuel is running at $4.60/gallon. Raw milk producers would be bankrupt at U.S. prices as would mainstream dairy.BC, Canada Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.Kurtis Stavenwww.wildthingorganics.ca

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I had this debate last year with ppl on this list and don't really care to get into it again. If your customers are willing to pay what you charge for raw milk, then they've made their choice.My milk is semi-organic, with roughly 65% of what they consume being grass. The cows spend much of their day in the field getting sunlight; they are not in a confined area. Though I'd prefer higher organic standards, that's what I can get in Niagara and I have to be happy with what I'm offered. Yes, I take from the bulk tank and he keeps the money for beer or whatever. I was just in Monroe county in NYS and bought milk there for $3/gallon. The goat's milk is 100% organic, and thus why I pay more it @ $12/gallon. Cheers!Calvin.Is it done as a hobby or business? Or do you refer to a dairy that skims the bulk tank for some pocket cash? Do they feed to a requested shareholder standard? What are the feed inputs? Do they grain? All this makes a huge difference. With our share standards we can't even support feed costs for that, let alone pay heat light etc.....

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I had this debate last year with ppl on this list and don't really care to get into it again. If your customers are willing to pay what you charge for raw milk, then they've made their choice.My milk is semi-organic, with roughly 65% of what they consume being grass. The cows spend much of their day in the field getting sunlight; they are not in a confined area. Though I'd prefer higher organic standards, that's what I can get in Niagara and I have to be happy with what I'm offered. Yes, I take from the bulk tank and he keeps the money for beer or whatever. I was just in Monroe county in NYS and bought milk there for $3/gallon. The goat's milk is 100% organic, and thus why I pay more it @ $12/gallon. Cheers!Calvin.Is it done as a hobby or business? Or do you refer to a dairy that skims the bulk tank for some pocket cash? Do they feed to a requested shareholder standard? What are the feed inputs? Do they grain? All this makes a huge difference. With our share standards we can't even support feed costs for that, let alone pay heat light etc.....

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Calvin

we, too, skim from the bulk tank! Our customers don't care.They are happy to be able to get fresh milk! In fact, our milk hauler asked me Tuesday if we drank our own milk. Yep for 10 years i told him. He asked if we cared if he's get a half gallon now and then. Told him to go right ahead! he liked that idea! Our girls are also out in the pasture as much as possible.

Happy skimming!

ro

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I had this debate last year with ppl on this list and don't really care to get into it again. If your customers are willing to pay what you charge for raw milk, then they've made their choice.

My milk is semi-organic, with roughly 65% of what they consume being grass. The cows spend much of their day in the field getting sunlight; they are not in a confined area. Though I'd prefer higher organic standards, that's what I can get in Niagara and I have to be happy with what I'm offered. Yes, I take from the bulk tank and he keeps the money for beer or whatever. I was just in Monroe county in NYS and bought milk there for $3/gallon. The goat's milk is 100% organic, and thus why I pay more it @ $12/gallon. Cheers!

Calvin.

Is it done as a hobby or business? Or do you refer to a dairy that

skims the bulk tank for some pocket cash? Do they feed to a requested

shareholder standard? What are the feed inputs? Do they grain? All

this makes a huge difference. With our share standards we can't even

support feed costs for that, let alone pay heat light etc.....

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Calvin

we, too, skim from the bulk tank! Our customers don't care.They are happy to be able to get fresh milk! In fact, our milk hauler asked me Tuesday if we drank our own milk. Yep for 10 years i told him. He asked if we cared if he's get a half gallon now and then. Told him to go right ahead! he liked that idea! Our girls are also out in the pasture as much as possible.

Happy skimming!

ro

Re: cost of raw milk

I had this debate last year with ppl on this list and don't really care to get into it again. If your customers are willing to pay what you charge for raw milk, then they've made their choice.

My milk is semi-organic, with roughly 65% of what they consume being grass. The cows spend much of their day in the field getting sunlight; they are not in a confined area. Though I'd prefer higher organic standards, that's what I can get in Niagara and I have to be happy with what I'm offered. Yes, I take from the bulk tank and he keeps the money for beer or whatever. I was just in Monroe county in NYS and bought milk there for $3/gallon. The goat's milk is 100% organic, and thus why I pay more it @ $12/gallon. Cheers!

Calvin.

Is it done as a hobby or business? Or do you refer to a dairy that

skims the bulk tank for some pocket cash? Do they feed to a requested

shareholder standard? What are the feed inputs? Do they grain? All

this makes a huge difference. With our share standards we can't even

support feed costs for that, let alone pay heat light etc.....

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Calvin

we, too, skim from the bulk tank! Our customers don't care.They are happy to be able to get fresh milk! In fact, our milk hauler asked me Tuesday if we drank our own milk. Yep for 10 years i told him. He asked if we cared if he's get a half gallon now and then. Told him to go right ahead! he liked that idea! Our girls are also out in the pasture as much as possible.

Happy skimming!

ro

Re: cost of raw milk

I had this debate last year with ppl on this list and don't really care to get into it again. If your customers are willing to pay what you charge for raw milk, then they've made their choice.

My milk is semi-organic, with roughly 65% of what they consume being grass. The cows spend much of their day in the field getting sunlight; they are not in a confined area. Though I'd prefer higher organic standards, that's what I can get in Niagara and I have to be happy with what I'm offered. Yes, I take from the bulk tank and he keeps the money for beer or whatever. I was just in Monroe county in NYS and bought milk there for $3/gallon. The goat's milk is 100% organic, and thus why I pay more it @ $12/gallon. Cheers!

Calvin.

Is it done as a hobby or business? Or do you refer to a dairy that

skims the bulk tank for some pocket cash? Do they feed to a requested

shareholder standard? What are the feed inputs? Do they grain? All

this makes a huge difference. With our share standards we can't even

support feed costs for that, let alone pay heat light etc.....

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What does skimming from the bulk tank mean?JoanneOn Jul 24, 2010, at 9:42 AM, RawDairy wrote:we, too, skim from the bulk tank!

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What does skimming from the bulk tank mean?JoanneOn Jul 24, 2010, at 9:42 AM, RawDairy wrote:we, too, skim from the bulk tank!

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you take the milk out of the bulk tank for personal use instead of it going on the milk truck to the processor.

Re: cost of raw milk

What does skimming from the bulk tank mean?

Joanne

On Jul 24, 2010, at 9:42 AM, RawDairy wrote:

we, too, skim from the bulk tank!

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you take the milk out of the bulk tank for personal use instead of it going on the milk truck to the processor.

Re: cost of raw milk

What does skimming from the bulk tank mean?

Joanne

On Jul 24, 2010, at 9:42 AM, RawDairy wrote:

we, too, skim from the bulk tank!

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Why would anyone object to that?JoanneOn Jul 25, 2010, at 10:52 AM, rawDairy wrote:you take the milk out of the bulk tank for personal use instead of it going on the milk truck to the processor.