Re: Raw Diet?

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I make a dip similar to hummus with soaked raw chick peas.

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiaaeranch@...

Re: Raw Diet?

Okay!But some of those require cooking, so it made me curious.

Sharyn - the link you posted was an interesting one, but one of the first recipes was for something with chick peas! Those needs must be cooked before consuming them (unless you have a gizzard and use them for rocks)!

I don't mind, understand, I happen to love chick peas. But it's the RAW part I'm curious about.

Ev

Common protein rich foods can include:

Soy Milk (try goat milk) Eggs

Cheese Yogurt Peanut Butter Lean Meats, Fish, and Poultry Beans, Tofu, Lentils, and other Legumes Grains, including bread and pasta Nuts and Seeds

Suzi

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[Guest guest]

I soak mine three or four days, changing the water and rinsing daily.

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiaaeranch@...

Re: Raw Diet?

Okay - thanks!(What constitutes "forever"??)!

Ev (who has 'splained to her husband that

[Guest guest]

Rule of thumb from a commercial fisherman (retired). If it smells like fish it is too old. Don't buy it.

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiaaeranch@...

Re: Raw Diet?

I know I can make it at home, I just don't care to have fish smell in the house. I want to

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I'm with you Gayla. I'm not touching soy for anything. Wish I could have a goat in the backyard! Maybe I can get the vet tech program at school to get one!! Oooh, now I've got an idea! They used to have a horse and there is a barn up there not being used. Hmmm.....next year is going to be very busy with me convincing chef to do vegetarian, putting a recycle program into effect, and now a goat. Luckily Bob the Welder (instructor) has chickens so there are always lots of fresh eggs.

Shari

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Aw, it smells like fish right out of the water! Been in a fishing town all my life. Too bad there are no fish left. The fisherman are screwed here in WA.

Shari

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Yes it smells like fish, but what people usually call a fishy smell is several day old fish with a negative shelf life IMHO.

No fish anywhere. It was a gas while it lasted. I fished from Mexico to Alaska. Good times.

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiaaeranch@...

Re: Raw Diet?

Aw, it smells like fish right out of the water! Been in a fishing town all my life. Too bad there are no fish left. The fisherman are screwed here in WA.

Shari

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You hadn't given me those links previously , so - thanks! I will go and do some reading, but it'll have to wait; DH's go-pony is suffering mightily in this heat, so I'm having my breakfast and heading out to do some shaving. (yuck times a million...)

Talk about clogging - I'm glad I'm not my bathtub drain this morning!!

Ev - does anyone have a surgical mask I can use?!

I don't do grains. Go to Dr. Graham and click on the "articles" section. He has some great information there. He claims grains cause mucus/blockage in our organs much like cholesterol causes blockage in our arteries.

Another great place to read is Raw School I may have already given you these links, but there is a ton of information on both of them.

It's all about an open mind.

Shari

[Guest guest]

See, now, THIS is interesting stuff for me!Ev

You can soak garbanzos and then sprout them for a couple days. Then you can use them much like you would cooked chickpeas. The only thing is you have to really watch them and rinse quite often during the day and taste them each day or they "go" on you quite quickly.

I've tasted some delightful hummus from raw, sprouted garbanzos.

Shari

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"Ev, who is reading Louise Hay and wonders if we can't stay in a comfortable middle ground and do just as well ... ?" You might ask your friend, but I'll bet she'll say "100% for best results". Look at it this way, you fill up your car with 15 gallons of premium gas, but your tank holds 16 gallons. Oh well, I'll save a few bucks and put in a gallon of free water................think it will make a difference? You bet!

~~~~~Well, sure! But then, I know people who are in equally fabulous shape who swear by Paleo. It's not just having an open mind, it's paying attention to what does best for YOU. Different strokes, and all that...

Talk to your friend with MS. What a living, breathing, walking testimony! I'm sure she would be excited to share her story with you. Make sure you bring your husband.

~~~~~Oh, the DH already knows about this - he was in the room when she said she eats NOTHING cooked.

Have you gone to the Hallelujah Acres website and read the testimonies on Parkinson's? There is one there and I am familiar with the woman. To my knowledge she is still doing very well, 6 years after that testimony was written.

Shari

~~~~~No! But I certainly will go and read. The thing is, I have to allow my husband/best friend TIME to rearrange his thinking. It's only been two weeks today since the diagnosis/bomb dropped in on us! Wherever it is we need to go, I have absolute confidence we'll get there.

I definitely appreciate everyone's time and energy in answering my questions, and I DO feel I am learning neat-o keen stuff!

Ev___

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Thank'ee, ma'am!

Ev

You can sprout grains... check the files on HOW TO.. and sprouting..

make great salads..

Suzi

From: <autumn3scorpio@...>Subject: Re: Raw Diet?health Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 5:55 PM

Thanks for this - I have more questions!

Like, what about grains? Those need cooking, too.

[Guest guest]

Oh PULEEZE don't mention goat milk and soy in the same sentence! ***vbg***

Gayla

Soy vey!!(snortguffaw)

Ev - har har I made a funny!!! (Can anyone tell I am stalling - as it were - about going out and shaving a horse)?

[Guest guest]

OhHO! Sneaky!

I like that.

Ev

Evie can start by offering him smoothies with ***hidden*** ingredients. A banana will hide a lot of yellow squash!

Gayla

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I may just try doing this soon! Like - today or tomorrow.

How long do you soak them?(I'm sorry to be so lazy - if this is annoying, I'll make my way to the site eventually...)

Ev

I make a dip similar to hummus with soaked raw chick peas.

Gayla

[Guest guest]

Okay, maybe I should read ALL the posts before replying <blush>!

Thanks! I'm going to go put some in water right now!!Ev

I soak mine three or four days, changing the water and rinsing daily.

Gayla

[Guest guest]

I love sprouts! My favourite mix is red wheat, winter wheat and alfafa. Sometimes I'll put in some radish for zip. I still haven't tried sprouting hot pepper seeds, but will soon.

Peace,love, laughter

I went to a 7-11 and asked for a 2x4 and a box of 3x5's. The clerk said, "ten-four."

Thank'ee, ma'am!

Ev

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[Guest guest]

This is a copy of a recipe I received from a friend at college. She is

from Ecuador,

so some of it is a little garbled.

Janet

3 Ib of Ecuadorian Shrimps (preferred 41-50 counts) 10 oranges (not ripe, if they are still green,

better) 5 limes

1 medium red onion,

slice into thing pieces

2 medium diced

tomatoes

1/3 cup chopped fresh

cilantro, plus several springs for garnish

1 tablespoon of salt

2 tablespoons of olive

oil, preferably extra-virgin

Preparation:

1. Cook and

marinate the shrimps. Bring 1 quart of water to a boil and add 2

tablespoons of limejuice.

Scoop the shrimps into the hot

water, cover it and let the water return to boil. Remove from

the

boiling water after 5 min. Set aside and pour off all the

liquid. Cover the pot and let the shrimps

steam

off the heat for 10 minutes. Spread out the shrimp in large glass or stainless

steel bowl to cool

completely. Peel the shrimp and devein if you wish: One-by-one lay the

shrimp on your work

surface,

make a shallow incision down the back and

scrape out the dark intestinal tract. Toss the

shrimp

with the juice of 2 limes, cover and

refrigerate for about an hour.

2.

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slices,

add the juice of the remaining 3 limes, salt,

cilantro and let rest for about 20 minutes. Add the

mix

to the shrimps, cover and refrigerate if not

serving immediately.

3.

Serving the Ceviche: Spoon the Ceviche into glass

bowls, martini glasses, or

small ceramic

bowls, garnish with springs of cilantro and diced

chili. Serve with bread. Corn tostados

or chifles. Of course you have to go to Ecuador to enjoy this delicious

dish.

Note:

This Ceviche is excellent to cure the

" chuchaqui " (hangover) and also, is aphrodisiac, and a good

source of vitamin D.

On a negative note, this dish may be

high in cholesterol.

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SV

Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:34

PM

health

Subject: Re:

Raw Diet?

Thanks Sharyn. I posted before I read yours.

I love ceviche! Have not found a good source since my

favorite restaurant quit making it and I don't want to make it at home. I

know there are a couple of 5 star restaurants in downtown Seattle that are know for their ceviche and

I'm going to find them this summer! Living here is a great place for raw

fish seeing as we're flying distance from Alaska and fresh fish. The Pacific ocean is only a couple hours from me, however I

have to be careful to only get salmon from Natives as the whiteman is not

allowed to take wild salmon. Luckily I'm " in " with the

Tulalips.

Later - S

[Guest guest]

Some people have an immune response to

some grains, and they definitely should not have them in any form. Most people

can eat grains and thrive, as they’ve done for thousands and thousands of

years.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SV

Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:32

PM

health

Subject: Re:

Raw Diet?

Suzanne - he says NO grains at all, sprouted or

otherwise. He's got a good book out " Grain Damage " . I'll

scare it up and cite a few lines from it tomorrow. I'm on a deadline

trying to get a project done by tomorrow. Had to take a break because I

am confusing myself! Of course that's not hard to do!

Shari

[Guest guest]

Hey !

I'm an idiot in the kitchen - couldn't even get wheatgrass to grow and someone told me it was impossible to screw up wheatgrass... Anyway, I really want to make sprouts a part of my diet but the stuff at the store looks iffy. Can you recommend some idiot proof directions to grow my own or maybe a book to guide me? Thanks so much!

Peace on earth.

Cheryl

Re: Raw Diet?

I love sprouts! My favourite mix is red wheat, winter wheat and alfafa. Sometimes I'll put in some radish for zip. I still haven't tried sprouting hot pepper seeds, but will soon.

Peace,love, laughter

I went to a 7-11 and asked for a 2x4 and a box of 3x5's. The clerk said, "ten-four."

Thank'ee, ma'am!

Ev

..

[Guest guest]

There were no testimonies regarding Parkinson's to be found by the site's search engine.

Ev

Have you gone to the Hallelujah Acres website and read the testimonies on Parkinson's? There is one there and I am familiar with the woman. To my knowledge she is still doing very well, 6 years after that testimony was written.

Shari

[Guest guest]

Here you go, Evie…

http://tinyurl.com/4yc9ao

or

http://www.hacres.com/testimonies/testimonies.asp?TestId=708

Sharyn

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There were no testimonies regarding Parkinson's to be found

by the site's search engine.

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[Guest guest]

Ahhh! Much thanks!

Ev

Here you go, Evie…

http://tinyurl.com/4yc9ao

or

http://www.hacres.com/testimonies/testimonies.asp?TestId=708

Sharyn

[Guest guest]

"There were no testimonies regarding Parkinson's to be found by the site's search engine."

That's weird because I swear I read one there the other day. There was only one, but now there appears to be none.

I am sorry for the misinformation. It's still a good program and one that most people are able to follow.

Shari

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sharyn! I knew I wasn't seeing things!

S

[Guest guest]

That's weird because I swear I read one there the other day. There was only one, but now there appears to be none.

I am sorry for the misinformation. It's still a good program and one that most people are able to follow.

Shari

Pfffft! It was probably the Universe playing with me! Sharyn's links worked, so I read Harriet's story.

I'm finding that H is more and more open to the idea of me overhauling his/our diets (Sharyn! Maybe last Monday worked a little miracle?!), and while I doubt he'd be happy with me changing everything all at once, I'm thinking I can bring us around to better and better in less time than I would have expected!I sincerely appreciate everyone's efforts here, answering my questions and giving me the best info they have. It's been a tremendous help to me, and I am grateful.

Ev

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It wouldn’t be the first time one of

our vigils worked a miracle!<G>

Sharyn

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