Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 What I like about Dr. Phil is being proven right here - he makes us THINK. Even if the subject he is discussing is one we can't immediately relate to ... it still makes us think. I am sooo disappointed I missed seeing yesterday's show but I went to the site gave us - I didn't see much there but I did learn that this was a rerun from 1/01 and it is Part I - so I assume the next two weeks will be II and III! So I will be sure and tune in or tape the next two Tuesday shows for sure! Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War Hi Ladies, I'm so glad I brought up Dr. Phil. I can see that he has many fans round here. I really like him, too. I think he says things that people don't want to hear. Many people, as Serenity pointed out, don't want to take responsibility for their behavior. It's also interesting what Park said, that she only started agreeing with him after she lost a lot of weight; when she was larger, it was too hard to face the truth. I appreciate Katrina's post. You have such great insight into your payoffs, Katrina. I've definitely played the " poor me " in the past. You've all been witness to it, but deep down inside I know I gained the weight back because I binged for four months straight. Dr. Phil got me thinking yesterday: Why did I do it if I hate being this size? What makes food so hard to resist? I had broken up with my fiance of three years two months before the bingeing began. I told myself that it didn't matter, that it was a long time coming, etc. Only now do I see that I ate for comfort. I ate because I was lonely, and food filled that void. Fat insulates you from the world. I was burned badly in my last relationship, and it's so easy to use weight as an excuse: Oh, I'll get into another relationship, I'll trust again, WHEN I lose weight. It allows you to not deal with the other issues in your life. Only now do I realize that that's my payoff. Facing the truth is hard, but it can set you free. Dani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 That is EXACTLY what Dr. Phil was saying. He let the women give all their " reasons " , and them told them it was all BS. They were fat because they chose to be. Now, that seems kind of harsh, but look further. We are all where we are, weight wise, because we look at a plate of cookies next to a plate of salad, and choose the cookies 9 out of 10 times. There are reasons behind those choices, but by acknowledging that they ARE choices you can start to take ownership of your life. All the excuses; " I love food too much " , " I'm under a lot of stress " , " My metabolism is slow, or slower than it was 20 years ago " are all just that, excuses. The reason we continue to be over weight is because we choose this lifestyle. Why do we choose it? The reasons are different for each of us. As Katriana said, sometimes it is for a feeling of physical safety. I can tell you my reasons. I'm sure there are more than just this, but I'll give you the biggest one now. And remember, these are emotions, not rational thoughts. I stay this way because I'm afraid that once I loose the weight I'll find that people (and I) still don't like me. I'm afraid to find out that it isn't the fat the people don't like, but something intrinsic in me. Now, I know that there is a lot of irrationality in there; for one I have a number of good friends that tell me they love me. On my best days I will say that I think I'm a pretty spiffy person, although the days I'm able to say that are not as frequent as they should be. Those irrational thoughts were forged in the past, by cruel people's actions towards me. I know that I have to slay that deamon before I'll get long term success at weight loss. Anyway, Dr Phil was agreeing with what most of us on this list have said before. I eat for a dozen reasons, none of them being from hunger. Alys > Not having a TV, the one recent time that I've seen Oprah was while I was at > a Doctor appointment. For 20 minutes I listened (since I was unable to focus > on my book) to very obese women talk about how they are unable to control the > food they eat. I listened to the " I'm fat and it's not my fault. I have no > control of what goes into my mouth. " And, I'm sorry since I know this will > offend half the posting population if not more, but that's a load of BS. If > you truly cannot control your actions (which include eating), you need to > seek professional (not Oprah) help. People plead insanity in murder cases > since they are unable to control their actions. > It just really pisses me off. I'm fat because I made the choice to eat > poorly and not exercise. I think the only way people can make a successful > lifestyle change is if they actually own up and take responsibility for their > actions. I am so sick of the " oh woe am I.. have pity on me since I can't > control myself " culture that is so prevalent these days. > Grrrr. > > Sorry for the rant > Serenity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 a - I'm kinda easing into it now. NOT doing it the total BFL way yet ... Today I did HIIT on the treadmill for 5 minutes (increased from 4) ... then I did the bike for 6 minutes. Didn't hit my 10 there but kept up a good pace. Then I did some biceps and triceps with free weights (only using 8 lbs) and only did 3 reps of 12 each. After that I did all the stretches given me by the Physical Therapist who included one leg exercie and says she will be going more each time I go. I feel so great when I workout ... never thought I would miss it this much ... and at first it bothered me that I'm not doing a 12-week segment but I seem to be doing fine without it. I will start one once I can do more of the BFL workouts tho - just so I have " start-finish " dates to mark my goals. Thanx for asking. Rita Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War In a message dated 6/12/2002 12:33:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, ribar@... writes: > JUST when I was going to start C2. Now ordinarily this would be my perfect > excuse to also go back to my old eating habits - but I haven't!!! BFL > RULES!!! > Excellent, Rita! What a major accomplishment! When do you think you'll be able to resume working out? a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 that is true, people with thyroid problems, and a few other health issues, do have more concrete reasons to have problems maintaining. One women got up and said " women have more fat naturaly, and post- meopausal women put weight on more readily " . His answer was " Yup. Tough. That just means you have to try harder. " He gives no quarter! I think that, most likely, he did not state any acceptions to his ideas so that we would not all latch on to them. " See? I probably have a faulthy thyroid! " It is a horrible situation for those fighting it, and I hope never to be among them, but it really is a small percentage of the people that are over weight, don't you think? Alys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 My mom in law has about a non exsistant thyriod. It was damaged during a neck surgery when she was 17. She takes so many meds for it I cant even remember them all. And to top that off, she also has a type of arthritist she has to take meds for that totally whacks her hormones out of whack. That being said, since having been part of her family, I can honestly say she tries her darnest to lose weight. And she needs to. she is barely 4 foot 10 and weighs a lot ( I am guessing 250+). The most she has lost since knowing her ( going on 9 years) is anbout 20 pounds. But, for every so many pounds she losses they have to revamp her meds and she then gains weight back. I hate to say it but I do think some people are just more prone to being over weight. LOL, I am starting to think I am one of them Shonda > that is true, people with thyroid problems, and a few other health > issues, do have more concrete reasons to have problems maintaining. > One women got up and said " women have more fat naturaly, and post- > meopausal women put weight on more readily " . His answer was " Yup. > Tough. That just means you have to try harder. " He gives no quarter! > > I think that, most likely, he did not state any acceptions to his > ideas so that we would not all latch on to them. " See? I probably > have a faulthy thyroid! " It is a horrible situation for those > fighting it, and I hope never to be among them, but it really is a > small percentage of the people that are over weight, don't you think? > > Alys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Yes it is a small percentage ... I brought it up because of a dear friend who does have a serious thyroid problem. They are trying once again to change her meds ...\ But for most (others) ... it is a matter of we just have to try harder! Rita Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War that is true, people with thyroid problems, and a few other health issues, do have more concrete reasons to have problems maintaining. One women got up and said " women have more fat naturaly, and post- meopausal women put weight on more readily " . His answer was " Yup. Tough. That just means you have to try harder. " He gives no quarter! I think that, most likely, he did not state any acceptions to his ideas so that we would not all latch on to them. " See? I probably have a faulthy thyroid! " It is a horrible situation for those fighting it, and I hope never to be among them, but it really is a small percentage of the people that are over weight, don't you think? Alys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 No Shonda - you are not one of them. It must be truly devastating to be trying to lose weight and because of a serious thyroid or other disorder not being able to. But most of us here do not have that problem. Deep down we know what our problems are and BFL is going to help us. Or rather with BFL's help we are going to help ourselves. Rita Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War My mom in law has about a non exsistant thyriod. It was damaged during a neck surgery when she was 17. She takes so many meds for it I cant even remember them all. And to top that off, she also has a type of arthritist she has to take meds for that totally whacks her hormones out of whack. That being said, since having been part of her family, I can honestly say she tries her darnest to lose weight. And she needs to. she is barely 4 foot 10 and weighs a lot ( I am guessing 250+). The most she has lost since knowing her ( going on 9 years) is anbout 20 pounds. But, for every so many pounds she losses they have to revamp her meds and she then gains weight back. I hate to say it but I do think some people are just more prone to being over weight. LOL, I am starting to think I am one of them Shonda > that is true, people with thyroid problems, and a few other health > issues, do have more concrete reasons to have problems maintaining. > One women got up and said " women have more fat naturaly, and post- > meopausal women put weight on more readily " . His answer was " Yup. > Tough. That just means you have to try harder. " He gives no quarter! > > I think that, most likely, he did not state any acceptions to his > ideas so that we would not all latch on to them. " See? I probably > have a faulthy thyroid! " It is a horrible situation for those > fighting it, and I hope never to be among them, but it really is a > small percentage of the people that are over weight, don't you think? > > Alys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Wow Katrina, You have really spent quality time figuring out where you've been and where you're going. I wish everyone could do this (myself included). I believe that so much of our growth in BFL is on the mental side. You have shared so much of yourself here and I look forward to reading your future posts along the way. Park Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War Hi Dani, I've never seen Oprah, but she sounds WONDERFUL, and Dr. Phil sounds great. I'd just like to share some of the " payoffs " and other neurotic reasons for my overweight/overeating (since I have put words to this and worked on this, some weight has fallen off, and I am alot more willing to commit to goals etc.) Of course, this is just me, so it will only be an example of what you might discover (the demons can be very tough to face, but I promise you, it is even harder to live with them, so it's worth it )) FAT as protection - when I was sixteen I got raped. In the following months I gained alot of weight. If I wasn't attractive, then I wouldn't get negative attention. Maybe I could even feel invisible. - when I was a kid my dad was kind of violent. He would yell, and curse, and smash furniture. He didn't ever hit us. But I was still afraid. I decided to eat as much as him so that I would become big and strong. FAT as an excuse - Since all my failures were due to my being fat, then I didn't have to look at the actual failures or more likely, the NON action... not doing things, not acting, not making choices, not standing up for myself. " It won't change anything, anyway... I'm fat and ugly and nobody loves me " - Being fat allowed me to feel sorry for myself. What in all earth did feeling sorry for myself give me? Well, the right to be sad, the right to feel like my life should have been better. It goes on and on. EATING - I discovered, one day, after a lot of meditating, that I want to eat because I'm afraid that I'll feel deprived. I talked to my mom, and she told me about the first months of my life. They were pretty chaotic, and she wasn't able to give me the attention a baby usually needs. She may well have " missed meals " , and I, as a baby, started overeating when I was given the chance... to store up for future hunger. - I also eat for comfort. When I feel abandoned or lonely or defeated... FOOD seems to be the answer. - I eat to celebrate. There is more. It's layer upon layer upon layer... The key question seems to be: What is the emotional payoff? What happens when I do this? What does that allow me to do or feel? why would I want to feel that? Are there feelings that I wasn't allowed to express (sadness, anger)? There is also a very large part of self-esteem and self-confidence (I pretty much define self-esteem as the positive emotions of BEING who I am, while I put self-confidence down as DOING. Once again - that's just me, and I only do it because I feel a need to define things). I discovered that I depend on OTHER PEOPLE's opinion of me to define me, their approval to validate my self worth. What they thought about what I did, said, felt, thought... MATTERED. Another discovery was that for many girls our self esteem has to do with how we perceive our appearance. If we feel pretty, we are more confident and feel better about ourselves. Guys seem to have it easier. They depend more on their capabilities for self esteem. Good at soccor? Good at making people laugh? Good at math? There is an excellent book about this called " schoolgirl " Anyway... all the work to figure out emotional payoff REALLY HAS HELPED. It really is worth it. Over the last few months I have started doing what I love. Making choices for myself, not taking responsibility for other people's feelings or choices. I no longer depend on what other people think about me to decide whether I'm worthy or not. In short, I've probably quit doing what I don't want to do, and started doing what I like doing (learning mandarin chinese and hawaiian.. going for a steam bath, quitting my job that was killing me slowly, cooking up a storm with veggies and spices). It's hard to explain like this... but I did want to share, in case any of what I mention can be of help to you. Love, Katrina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Well, I was just joking about that part ;0) But she does have a lot of problems. Thyriod, arthritits and heb C. > > that is true, people with thyroid problems, and a few other health > > issues, do have more concrete reasons to have problems > maintaining. > > One women got up and said " women have more fat naturaly, and post- > > meopausal women put weight on more readily " . His answer was " Yup. > > Tough. That just means you have to try harder. " He gives no > quarter! > > > > I think that, most likely, he did not state any acceptions to his > > ideas so that we would not all latch on to them. " See? I probably > > have a faulthy thyroid! " It is a horrible situation for those > > fighting it, and I hope never to be among them, but it really is a > > small percentage of the people that are over weight, don't you > think? > > > > Alys > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Rita, how IS your back these days? Have you been able to start working out again? Good for you for keeping strict on the nutrition side! Park Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War In a message dated 6/12/2002 2:06:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, skwigg@... writes: > love Dr. Phil. That was a great show YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HATE ME FOR HITTING THE SEND BUTTON TOO SOON ALL THE TIME...anyway, BFL has reeducated me as to food consumption. I keep telling my younger sister and my nieces all about it but they haven't seemed interested. They still buy into the fantasy that some pill somewhere will make them thin. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Park, I'm going to physical therapy. The therapist said I was absolutely NOT to lift heavy weights for a while. But I continue to do my cardio plus have been doing some free weights - 8lbs for biceps and triceps. I work out for about 30 minutes but not on a regular schedule - like Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Fri, and once on the weekend. Not always those days. Depends on my therapy appointment. To be honest, I don't feel any better but on the other hand I don't feel any worse! lol I think I'm going to have to cut back and kind of start all over once I am finished with therapy. What I am learning are the stretches that help a lot ... and how to sleep better (on my back) ... AND ... a friend of mine JUST called and suggested magnets. Do you know anything about those? Or does anyone here? So I am eating clean ... finally went down a size and fit into my old size 12 brand new Gap jeans from 2 years ago! lol So I am feeling good about that. I just can't wait to start a full challenge again! lol Thanx for asking hon. Rita Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War In a message dated 6/12/2002 2:06:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, skwigg@... writes: > love Dr. Phil. That was a great show YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HATE ME FOR HITTING THE SEND BUTTON TOO SOON ALL THE TIME...anyway, BFL has reeducated me as to food consumption. I keep telling my younger sister and my nieces all about it but they haven't seemed interested. They still buy into the fantasy that some pill somewhere will make them thin. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 alysd38 wrote: > That is EXACTLY what Dr. Phil was saying. He let the women give all > their " reasons " , and them told them it was all BS. They were fat > because they chose to be. I don't know about Doc Phil.. but yes! Exactly > Now, that seems kind of harsh, but look further. We are all where we > are, weight wise, because we look at a plate of cookies next to a > plate of salad, and choose the cookies 9 out of 10 times. There are > reasons behind those choices, but by acknowledging that they ARE > choices you can start to take ownership of your life. Hear hear! It is harsh.. but it's true. Or because we looked at watching TV or exercising and chose TV. > All the excuses; " I love food too much " , " I'm under a lot of > stress " , " My metabolism is slow, or slower than it was 20 years ago " > are all just that, excuses. The reason we continue to be over weight > is because we choose this lifestyle. Why do we choose it? The > reasons are different for each of us. As Katriana said, sometimes it > is for a feeling of physical safety. But it all boils down to " I choose to be fat. " > I'm afraid to find out that it isn't the fat the > people don't like, but something intrinsic in me. This relates to one of my goals.. But, if I get my healthy body.. I'll know that people don't like me because I'm flawed inside instead of always having to wonder if I'm being judged because I'm flawed outside. I'd rather know for sure.. you know? > Anyway, Dr Phil was agreeing with what most of us on this list have > said before. I eat for a dozen reasons, none of them being from > hunger. That's funny One of the things that I've loved about BFL is that I actually feel hungry. Isn't that a weird feeling to actually embrace and enjoy? It's great! I love the hunger I feel when it's time to eat! It's something that I never felt before!! It tells me that I'm changing and I love it Funny Serenity -- http://users.starpower.net/kuranes/BFL/NityBFL.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 ribar wrote: > a - I'm kinda easing into it now. NOT doing it the total BFL way yet ... Today I did HIIT on the treadmill for 5 minutes (increased from 4) ... then I did the bike for 6 minutes. Didn't hit my 10 there but kept up a good pace. Then I did some biceps and triceps with free weights (only using 8 lbs) and only did 3 reps of 12 each. After that I did all the stretches given me by the Physical Therapist who included one leg exercie and says she will be going more each time I go. I feel so great when I workout ... never thought I would miss it this much ... and at first it bothered me that I'm not doing a 12-week segment but I seem to be doing fine without it. I will start one once I can do more of the BFL workouts tho - just so I have " start-finish " dates to mark my goals. > Thanx for asking. > Rita Just think of it this way, Rita. Your start date is " here and now " and your finish date is death. And every great workout you have.. and great eating day you have will lengthen the time between those two dates! That's my perspective these days at least ~~ Serenity -- http://users.starpower.net/kuranes/BFL/NityBFL.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 I like that hungry feeling too Nity. I feel like my metabolism is running about 500 MPH. I've lost 5lbs in the past two weeks and have skipped a bunch of workouts. (naughty, I know) I'm having a hard time finding TIME. Like everyone else!! I've got this eating thing down pat, I think. Now, time to work on water and workouts!!! Astra > > > That is EXACTLY what Dr. Phil was saying. He let the women give all > > their " reasons " , and them told them it was all BS. They were fat > > because they chose to be. > > I don't know about Doc Phil.. but yes! Exactly > > > Now, that seems kind of harsh, but look further. We are all where we > > are, weight wise, because we look at a plate of cookies next to a > > plate of salad, and choose the cookies 9 out of 10 times. There are > > reasons behind those choices, but by acknowledging that they ARE > > choices you can start to take ownership of your life. > > Hear hear! It is harsh.. but it's true. Or because we looked at watching TV > or exercising and chose TV. > > > All the excuses; " I love food too much " , " I'm under a lot of > > stress " , " My metabolism is slow, or slower than it was 20 years ago " > > are all just that, excuses. The reason we continue to be over weight > > is because we choose this lifestyle. Why do we choose it? The > > reasons are different for each of us. As Katriana said, sometimes it > > is for a feeling of physical safety. > > But it all boils down to " I choose to be fat. " > > > I'm afraid to find out that it isn't the fat the > > people don't like, but something intrinsic in me. > > This relates to one of my goals.. But, if I get my healthy body.. I'll know > that people don't like me because I'm flawed inside instead of always having > to wonder if I'm being judged because I'm flawed outside. I'd rather know > for sure.. you know? > > > Anyway, Dr Phil was agreeing with what most of us on this list have > > said before. I eat for a dozen reasons, none of them being from > > hunger. > > That's funny One of the things that I've loved about BFL is that I > actually feel hungry. Isn't that a weird feeling to actually embrace and > enjoy? It's great! I love the hunger I feel when it's time to eat! It's > something that I never felt before!! It tells me that I'm changing and I > love it Funny > Serenity > > > -- > http://users.starpower.net/kuranes/BFL/NityBFL.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 astramari02 wrote: > I like that hungry feeling too Nity. I feel like my metabolism is > running about 500 MPH. I've lost 5lbs in the past two weeks and have > skipped a bunch of workouts. (naughty, I know) I'm having a hard > time finding TIME. Like everyone else!! I've got this eating thing > down pat, I think. Now, time to work on water and workouts!!! > > Astra Have I ever told you that your email address makes me think of Pastrami? *sigh* And I don't even -like- Pastrami.. so why am I thinking about it?! Argh! I like whoever said that they have to workout early in the morning before their brain realizes. That's my method most days. At least Cardio days. I'm normally finished cardio by 6am. But weights I tend to put off and then it's too easy to skip. Instead I should just do it. Right when I get back from the Metro! I've started keeping a 20 oz cup with me all the time. Yum Serenity -- http://users.starpower.net/kuranes/BFL/NityBFL.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 There is a woman on the cover of a recent Muscle and Fitness Hers (green cover) who is in phenomenal shape despite a thyroid condition. So it can definitely be done. Pat In a message dated Wed, 12 Jun 2002 5:03:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: > Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 alysd38 wrote: > that is true, people with thyroid problems, and a few other health > issues, do have more concrete reasons to have problems maintaining. > One women got up and said " women have more fat naturaly, and post- > meopausal women put weight on more readily " . His answer was " Yup. > Tough. That just means you have to try harder. " He gives no quarter! > > I think that, most likely, he did not state any acceptions to his > ideas so that we would not all latch on to them. " See? I probably > have a faulthy thyroid! " It is a horrible situation for those > fighting it, and I hope never to be among them, but it really is a > small percentage of the people that are over weight, don't you think? > > Alys I agree 100%. It just means you've got to work harder. Which means you can be more proud of yourself when you reach and maintain your goals Serenity -- http://users.starpower.net/kuranes/BFL/NityBFL.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Great thought Serenity! Rita Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War ribar wrote: > a - I'm kinda easing into it now. NOT doing it the total BFL way yet .... Today I did HIIT on the treadmill for 5 minutes (increased from 4) ... then I did the bike for 6 minutes. Didn't hit my 10 there but kept up a good pace. Then I did some biceps and triceps with free weights (only using 8 lbs) and only did 3 reps of 12 each. After that I did all the stretches given me by the Physical Therapist who included one leg exercie and says she will be going more each time I go. I feel so great when I workout ... never thought I would miss it this much ... and at first it bothered me that I'm not doing a 12-week segment but I seem to be doing fine without it. I will start one once I can do more of the BFL workouts tho - just so I have " start-finish " dates to mark my goals. > Thanx for asking. > Rita Just think of it this way, Rita. Your start date is " here and now " and your finish date is death. And every great workout you have.. and great eating day you have will lengthen the time between those two dates! That's my perspective these days at least ~~ Serenity -- http://users.starpower.net/kuranes/BFL/NityBFL.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 > That's funny One of the things that I've loved about BFL is >that I actually feel hungry. Isn't that a weird feeling to actually >embrace and enjoy? It's great! I love the hunger I feel when it's >time to eat! It's something that I never felt before!! It tells me >that I'm changing and I love it Funny Serenity, I know what you mean. It's like BFL gave me permission to eat. I'd always feel guilty for eating before. Like since I was fat I was a " bad person " for eating. There was a whole lot of baggage I had about eating that I never realized was there until I did this. It has been a real growing experience don't you think? Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 jeahere wrote: > > That's funny One of the things that I've loved about BFL is > >that I actually feel hungry. Isn't that a weird feeling to actually > >embrace and enjoy? It's great! I love the hunger I feel when it's > >time to eat! It's something that I never felt before!! It tells me > >that I'm changing and I love it Funny > > Serenity, > I know what you mean. It's like BFL gave me permission to eat. I'd > always feel guilty for eating before. Like since I was fat I was > a " bad person " for eating. There was a whole lot of baggage I had > about eating that I never realized was there until I did this. It has > been a real growing experience don't you think? > > Jan Oh definitely Serenity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Rita, I have heard of magnets for arthritis I think, and I have seen slippers with magnets inserted in the soles which is supposed to help with pain, but have never had the need to use any (thank goodness). Way to go on the size 12 jeans!!! I have 2 pair of brand new size 12s that are SKIN TIGHT hanging in my closet - hope to be in them comfortably in 4 more weeks! Park Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War In a message dated 6/12/2002 2:06:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, skwigg@... writes: > love Dr. Phil. That was a great show YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HATE ME FOR HITTING THE SEND BUTTON TOO SOON ALL THE TIME...anyway, BFL has reeducated me as to food consumption. I keep telling my younger sister and my nieces all about it but they haven't seemed interested. They still buy into the fantasy that some pill somewhere will make them thin. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Park - My 12's are pretty tight too - but what the hell! lol WAY to go on yours almost fitting! We'll be a fashion statement together. Rita Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War In a message dated 6/12/2002 2:06:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, skwigg@... writes: > love Dr. Phil. That was a great show YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HATE ME FOR HITTING THE SEND BUTTON TOO SOON ALL THE TIME...anyway, BFL has reeducated me as to food consumption. I keep telling my younger sister and my nieces all about it but they haven't seemed interested. They still buy into the fantasy that some pill somewhere will make them thin. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Jan, You wrote: <<It's like BFL gave me permission to eat. I'd always feel guilty for eating before. Like since I was fat I was a " bad person " for eating. >> This is *exactly* the way I feel too! I would feel like such a pig before, no matter what I ate. So self concious and guilty. I used to say " I'm sure I could live on my fat reserves without eating for a month " and things like that. It is so freeing to be able to eat *a lot* and well and feel great and lose this fat! Park Re: Oprah/Dr. Phil: Fighting the Fat War > That's funny One of the things that I've loved about BFL is >that I actually feel hungry. Isn't that a weird feeling to actually >embrace and enjoy? It's great! I love the hunger I feel when it's >time to eat! It's something that I never felt before!! It tells me >that I'm changing and I love it Funny Serenity, I know what you mean. It's like BFL gave me permission to eat. I'd always feel guilty for eating before. Like since I was fat I was a " bad person " for eating. There was a whole lot of baggage I had about eating that I never realized was there until I did this. It has been a real growing experience don't you think? Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Park, It is great isn't it! As women we get all these weird things going on with body image and eating. Right after I started BFL I saw an Oprah show with a little girl on there who was eating paper because she was afraid to eat food because she was afraid to be " fat " . It broke my heart. Makes me want to pass out the BFL book to all little girls with eating problems. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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