I'm back

August 15, 2000

lmao lori, i can picture derek grabbing and running in his little

pullup.....ashton used to look so cute in those.... i count myself very lucky

in the fact shes potty trained and has been for a long time....but on the

other side, she has sooooooo many issues........i guess that is why are kids

are so ~unique~!!!!!!!!! my dh is gone all the time, he is leaving for pr and

i dont know how long that will be....then maybe africa or some other remote

site for a few weeks.....rough life...iw ould love to go play soldier girl

for a few weeks.......okay i am rambling too....tcleah

August 15, 2000

In a message dated 8/14/00 7:58:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MBrayley@...

writes:

<<

Well, wish us luck and will check in again in a day or two and let you know

how it went. It's good to be home. >>

August 15, 2000

In a message dated 8/14/00 7:58:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MBrayley@...

writes:

<<

Well, wish us luck and will check in again in a day or two and let you know

how it went. It's good to be home. >>

Whoops.....sorry guys. Sent that without a reply. Just wanted to say

welcome back and good luck . We'll be looking forward to hearing how

things went.

Donna

August 15, 2000

that does sound like a hard decision to make, prayers that everything goes

smoothly. shawna.

>From: smilinggail@...

>Reply-egroups

>egroups

>Subject: Re: Re: I'm back

>Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:35:19 EDT

>

>In a message dated 8/14/00 7:58:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>MBrayley@...

>writes:

>

><< If everything looks oklay, they might be injecting teflon into

> his good vocal chord (one is paralyzed) to give him better sound quality.

>He

> talks in a whisper now or sounds like a frog if he strains his voice to

>be

> heard. The tough part about this, is that if they give him too much, he

> can't breathe. This is a tough call, but I have a good Dr. and trust him

> alot. He's already rebuilt 's upper airway with his rib cartledge

>when

> he was younger. >>

>

>,

>Wow! That is scary....Yikes. Glad you had a fun and relaxing time to get

>ready for what's coming up.

>Gail

>

August 15, 2000

mine still have one week till school starts, we will have our family

minivaction/reunioun this weekend before school starts, we leave friday

morniing, its a 5-6 hour drive, but my boys are egear to go, counting down

the days.shawna.

>From: " Dan Hopkins " <dan_hopkins@...>

>Reply-egroups

><egroups>

>Subject: Re: Re: I'm back

>Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:39:50 -0400

>

> > >

> > Welcome all the new comers. Wow, triplets with Down Syndrome? Did I

>read

> > that right. I was just skimming through all of my 394 EMails and I

>might

> > have missed a bunch. I'm sure Connie has some good stories to tell.

>We're

> > here for you and you have come to the right place. I forgot the other

>new

> > comers name, but I'll catch up again soon.

> >

>

>Yikes!! I do have triplets but only one with DS. The other two did have

>some medical and developmental problems but only because they were born 12

>weeks early. They have outgrown most of those. Today was their first day

>of school. is attending a charter school for children with autism;

>Austin and are in a Montessori program. Big brother is in 1st

>grade. I can't ever remember my house being as quiet as it was today

>during

>school hours.

>

>Connie

>

August 15, 2000

not to sound stupid but what is a montessori school is it just for special

ed, or catholic, or private? shawna.

>From: Lupi2Basil@...

>Reply-egroups

>egroups

>Subject: Re: Re: I'm back

>Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:19:50 EDT

>

>In a message dated 8/14/00 7:47:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

>dan_hopkins@... writes:

>

><< Austin and are in a Montessori program. >>

>That's wonderful ! I am partial to Montessori schools. I used to teach

>in

>one and my son also attended the program and grew leaps and bounds

>because of the teaching methods. Interesting enough, we also had one

>student enrolled in the kindergarten class who had autism.

>

>Lupi ( Lupi2Basil@... ),

>husband-Steve parents of:

>Amy-24 (Ds-ASD), ( -17 (AS), Chris-22 (LD)

>

August 15, 2000

thanks gail, we will lots of family members wil be there and all their kids,

we do it every year, somewhere different, but fun, huge lake trails etc.

we've allreaky started to pack, im dreading the laundery when we get home

though,lol, shawna.

>From: smilinggail@...

>Reply-egroups

>egroups

>Subject: Re: Re: I'm back

>Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:07:52 EDT

>

>In a message dated 8/15/00 8:01:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>mashawnag@... writes:

>

><< mine still have one week till school starts, we will have our family

> minivaction/reunioun this weekend before school starts, we leave friday

> morniing, its a 5-6 hour drive, but my boys are egear to go, counting

>down

> the days.shawna. >>

>

>a,

>Wow, that's a long ride..have fun and drive safely.

>Gail

>

August 15, 2000

In a message dated 8/15/00 8:01:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mashawnag@... writes:

<< mine still have one week till school starts, we will have our family

minivaction/reunioun this weekend before school starts, we leave friday

morniing, its a 5-6 hour drive, but my boys are egear to go, counting down

the days.shawna. >>

a,

Wow, that's a long ride..have fun and drive safely.

Gail

August 15, 2000

In a message dated 8/15/00 8:03:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mashawnag@... writes:

<< not to sound stupid but what is a montessori school is it just for special

ed, or catholic, or private? shawna.

>>

Ya know what it is a,....EXPENSIVE!!!!!! Ours here is not good with

handicapped kids though. I don't know about any others.

Gail

August 15, 2000

In a message dated 8/15/00 5:03:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

mashawnag@... writes:

<< not to sound stupid but what is a montessori school is it just for special

ed, or catholic, or private? shawna. >>

Hello a,

Montessori is a teaching philosophy/method founded by Dr.

Montessori. It is a method that can also be used in Homeschooling. At the

bottom of this e-mail you will find three links with great information.

Montessori was the first woman physician and was born in Italy in

1870. She said, " Scientific observation has established that education

is not what the teacher gives; education is a natural process spontaneously

carried out by the human individual, and is acquired not by listening to

words but by experiences upon the environment. The task of the teacher

becomes that of preparing a series of motives of cultural activity, spread

over a specially prepared environment, and then refraining from obtrusive

interference. Human teachers can only help the great work that is being done,

as servants help the master. Doing so, they will be witnesses to the

unfolding of the human soul and to the rising of a New Man who will not be a

victim of events, but will have the clarity of vision to direct and shape the

future of human society. " - Montessori, Education for a New

World

Here are a couple of links with the URL addresses below the link in case it

does not work. These web pages will answer a lot of your questions

regarding Montessori Schools and the Teaching Methods.

<A HREF= " http://www.montessori.edu/FAQ.html " >FrequentlyAskedQuestions

</A>http://www.montessori.edu/FAQ.html

<A HREF= " http://www.montessori.edu/method.html " >The Montessori Method</A>

http://www.montessori.edu/method.html

<A HREF= " http://www.montessori.edu/homeschooling.html " >MONTESSORI

HOMESCHOOLING</A>

http://www.montessori.edu/homeschooling.html

Hope this is of some help to you. I know that Montessori schools are not

for everyone but I can tell you that it was great for my son . He

attended from 1st to 3rd grade.

Lupi ( Lupi2Basil@... ), husband-Steve parents of:

Amy-24 (Ds-ASD), ( -17 (AS), Chris-22 (LD)

August 16, 2000

thanks, that sounds very nice!!! i wish nathan could do something like that,

even his little brother nicholas, but the nearest ones are two hours away.

but at least we do some of the home things that help. shawna.

>From: Lupi2Basil@...

>Reply-egroups

>egroups

>Subject: Re: Re: I'm back

>Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:18:25 EDT

>

>In a message dated 8/15/00 5:03:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

>mashawnag@... writes:

>

><< not to sound stupid but what is a montessori school is it just for

>special

> ed, or catholic, or private? shawna. >>

>

>Hello a,

> Montessori is a teaching philosophy/method founded by Dr.

>Montessori. It is a method that can also be used in Homeschooling. At

>the

>bottom of this e-mail you will find three links with great information.

>

> Montessori was the first woman physician and was born in Italy in

>1870. She said, " Scientific observation has established that

>education

>is not what the teacher gives; education is a natural process spontaneously

>carried out by the human individual, and is acquired not by listening to

>words but by experiences upon the environment. The task of the teacher

>becomes that of preparing a series of motives of cultural activity, spread

>over a specially prepared environment, and then refraining from obtrusive

>interference. Human teachers can only help the great work that is being

>done,

>as servants help the master. Doing so, they will be witnesses to the

>unfolding of the human soul and to the rising of a New Man who will not be

>a

>victim of events, but will have the clarity of vision to direct and shape

>the

>future of human society. " - Montessori, Education for a

>New

>World

>

>Here are a couple of links with the URL addresses below the link in case it

>does not work. These web pages will answer a lot of your questions

>regarding Montessori Schools and the Teaching Methods.

>

> <A HREF= " http://www.montessori.edu/FAQ.html " >FrequentlyAskedQuestions

></A>http://www.montessori.edu/FAQ.html

>

><A HREF= " http://www.montessori.edu/method.html " >The Montessori Method</A>

>http://www.montessori.edu/method.html

>

> <A HREF= " http://www.montessori.edu/homeschooling.html " >MONTESSORI

>HOMESCHOOLING</A>

>http://www.montessori.edu/homeschooling.html

>

>Hope this is of some help to you. I know that Montessori schools are

>not

>for everyone but I can tell you that it was great for my son . He

>attended from 1st to 3rd grade.

>

>Lupi ( Lupi2Basil@... ), husband-Steve parents of:

>Amy-24 (Ds-ASD), ( -17 (AS), Chris-22 (LD)

>

August 16, 2000

--Cheryl: we missed you! It will be great reading your posts

again. How's training " Taz "

- In bodyforlifeegroups, " Cheryl Cundick " <cdautah1@h...> wrote:

> Hey Everyone.....

>

> My computer has been down, but I am back on-line now.

>

> I missed reading the posts.

>

> Cheryl C.

August 16, 2000

Thanks .

Training is going good. I started training with a partner, so I

really have been training harder than ever. I use to always workout

alone and I liked it that way, but someone asked me to coach them and

we workout together and it has made a difference. I can't wait to

see what this 12 weeks brings.

I'm going to Elko, NV this weekend for the Make-A-Wish Benefit

Banquet. Get to meet Everett Herbert and hopefully Bill as

he will be a special guest there!

Cheryl

> > Hey Everyone.....

> >

> > My computer has been down, but I am back on-line now.

> >

> > I missed reading the posts.

> >

> > Cheryl C.

August 16, 2000

-Cheryl: I'll see you in Elko, I'm going by myself--Dan has to work

so lets sit together. My sister lives there. I hope Bill shows up---

he is on the ticket as guest speaker. See you Sat. " Taz "

-- In bodyforlifeegroups, " Cheryl Cundick " <cdautah1@h...> wrote:

> Thanks .

>

> Training is going good. I started training with a partner, so I

> really have been training harder than ever. I use to always

workout

> alone and I liked it that way, but someone asked me to coach them

and

> we workout together and it has made a difference. I can't wait to

> see what this 12 weeks brings.

>

> I'm going to Elko, NV this weekend for the Make-A-Wish Benefit

> Banquet. Get to meet Everett Herbert and hopefully Bill

as

> he will be a special guest there!

>

> Cheryl

>

> > > Hey Everyone.....

> > >

> > > My computer has been down, but I am back on-line now.

> > >

> > > I missed reading the posts.

> > >

> > > Cheryl C.

August 17, 2000

.......

You just made my day brighter! It will be a pleasure to see you

again. Yes, let's sit together. My Chiropractor and his wife will be

there as well.

I will probably be at the GNC earlier Saturday as Everett will be

there with his EAS Corvette signing autographs!

Cheryl

> > > > Hey Everyone.....

> > > >

> > > > My computer has been down, but I am back on-line now.

> > > >

> > > > I missed reading the posts.

> > > >

> > > > Cheryl C.

August 17, 2000

Hiya Cheryl, What have you been up to? Great to hear from you again. Are

you on a Challenge at the mo? What's new? Tell all! We've missed you.

Leaner.

August 17, 2000

<< Hiya Cheryl, What have you been up to? Great to hear from you again. Are

you on a Challenge at the mo? What's new? Tell all! We've missed you.

Leaner. >>

OK, OK so I'm so far behind with the posts that I've read the answers

already! Still it was good to hear that your'e doing so well. Leaner.

November 24, 2000

Welcome back Lee!!!

Good to see you are feeling better and *HURRAY* on getting that at home job thingie happening!! Am pleased you finally found something that is helping you. Is your pain less now?

Whats been going on in your world gurlie... ??hmmmm???

*big wb hugs*

Aisha

November 24, 2000

Lee,

How wonderful to have you back!! I'm so glad that you're feeling

better and things are looking up for you!!

*hugs*

l harris wrote:

>

> Dear Friends: I am so glad to be feeling well enough to particpate in

> the group again. Thanks to all of you who sent me kind e mails. I am

> on a new homeopathic remedy and it really seems to help!

>

> Things are looking up. I have even found a job at home, scanning ads

> for 2 hrs a day!!

>

> Blessings to all. Hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving (even you

> Aussies!!) Love, Lee

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

November 25, 2000

I now have many late night informercials memorized. Does that give you a clue on what I had been doing????? Not much, though the couch and I are on intimate terms!!!!! My pain is manageable now. I take Percocet, when it gets really bad and that is doing the trick.

Love, Lee

Aisha Elderwyn <aisha@...> wrote: Good to see you are feeling better and *HURRAY* on getting that at home job thingie happening!! Am pleased you finally found something that is helping you. Is your pain less now? Whats been going on in your world gurlie... ??hmmmm???

December 3, 2000

Hi Bill

Welcome back :-) I understand your frustration with people not seeing your

product for what it is but just for the price. I have been having some

troubles trying to find a good market to sell my wares at. I have now

joined an arts & crafts market in an historic tourist town where I am the

only stall holder selling toiletries/soaps etc and hope that my problems

will be over. But at many other markets I went to people would say oh, they

look lovely but why are they so expensive and then go off and buy the mass

produced soaps someone else was selling. It is very disheartening.

I hope that you are able to find your niche and wish you the best of luck.

Regards

WB

Hunter Valley in Oz

> After much thought, prayer & consideration I have decided to stay in

business as a soapmaker, I have also joined a few more soapmaking lists that

are designed specifically towards the selling of soaps. Also, I went to a

craft fair yesterday and discovered why I had so much trouble selling my

soaps. There are at least three other soapmakers are selling bars of soap

that are 1/2 the size of mine or smaller for $2.00 each or 3 for $5.00. So,

I belive that people are not seeing the size of the bars that I sell

(between 4 and 5 oz. each) just the price $3.50 each or 3 for $10.00. I may

reduce my price to $2.00 and just reduce the size of my soap bars, or, I

might concentrate on online sales and keep my bars the same size and price.

I honestly have not decided yet.

>

> Bill Holsomback

> PRAZ4HM Soaps & Toiletries

>

January 8, 2001

Greta:

It sounds like has made great strides. Kudos to her!

It was heartwarming to read about her teacher's willingness to work with her.

So often we only hear of the teachers and schools who put up roadblocks to our

kids' success. My 12 yo son is currently having difficulty with school Os and

Cs, and his team has been trying very hard to figure out ways to help him. I am

so grateful that they use a team approach in his middle school as I am able to

speak with the team on any given day, and I actually know all his teachers

(except for specials, like art, keyboarding, etc.). This was a big concern to

me when he transitioned to middle school. Thank you for sharing 's story.

Jule in Cleveland

January 8, 2001

Hi Greta, I really enjoyed your post and reading about all the positive

things happening in your lives. It is exciting when things start moving in

our children's recovery. 's teacher is a jewel and sharing about your

experience with her goes a long way to balance the negative experiences with

teachers I think we've all had.

OCD free vacations are a blessing, I've thought if we could live at

Disneyworld or Kings Island, Kel would no longer qualify for the diagnosis,

her symptoms fall so low. I'm glad got this break and I'm sure it

did everyone good. A wonderful Christmas present for the whole family! ps.

Kel has never cracked her knuckles, but has done other fiddly habit-type

things compulsively, such as snap her fingers, and drum them constantly on

the table.

I'm sure will continue to make progress with the new counselor, and

it sounds as though things are really falling into place treatment-wise.

I'm sorry I don't remember about 's experiences with SSRIs previously,

but if she never got to a therapeutic dose in the past due to side-effects,

you may want to encourage titering up extremely slowly to minimize these.

I never had a chance to be in the closet with OCD, as my young child told

anyone and everyone about it as soon as she picked up the word during the

diagnostic process. This bothered me to begin with as I felt our family had

no privacy on the subject, but it also led to several situations such as you

had with 's teacher. So many others shared about anxiety disorders in

their families that I had no trouble believing what I'd read, that they are

very common.

Anyway, welcome back Greta, and thank you for sharing your good news with

the list.

Kathy R in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: <gwenmccabe@...>

<snip>

> I spoke with her teacher the first day back from vacation. It was a

> miracle! I explained that Abby's OCD was making it almost impossible

> for her to see any solution except the one requiring the most from

> her teacher. She shared with me that she has a 30-yr. old adopted

> daughter who has both OCD and MDD! She understood perfectly the

> situation and was more than happy to provide the kind of support Abby

> was asking for. She told me Abby is a very good student and even

> with all the missing work, currently has a 'D' in the class. She

> felt confident that they could pull the grade up by working

> together. Later she offered to go with Abby to talk to the Drama

> Director about missing the first part of rehearsals in order to get

> the work completed. Again, she understood the anxiety that Abby

> would be experiencing trying to explain the problem to the Drama

> Director on her own.

>

> I know many of you have experienced some very difficult times with

> teachers and so have we. However, I am so encouraged that there are

> still teaching professionals in this world who care enough to go " the

> extra mile " . We will certainly be writing a letter to the

> administration acknowledging this teacher's dedication to her

> students.

>

> As far as Christmas goes, we left on 12/23 for 10 days of R & R on the

> Oregon Coast. Our older daughter had to work, so she stayed behind.

> Again this is exactly what Abby needed to be able to relax. I

> noticed some of her compulsive behaviors disappeared during the

> vacation (most noticably her knuckle-cracking). And it came back

> with a bang when we arrived home and she started back to school.

> Have others noticed knuckle-cracking as a compulsive behavior?

>

> After her hospitalization around Thanksgiving, we (her current

> therapist and I) made the decision it was time for her to begin

> seeing an OCD therapist. She has worked with her current therapist

> since last February. This woman was very successful in helping Abby

> to " face " the issues and to work with her on communication and

> techniques for dealing with her depression. She was instrumental in

> both hospitalizations which were the turning points for Abby in

> disclosing to her father and I some of the most difficult issues she

> had been afraid to share with us. In addition, she laid the

> groundwork for further therapy. And yet we both agreed that it was

> time to take a firm stand on the next step. When I told Abby about

> the new therapist, she accepted it without problem.

>

> Her first appointment will be January 16th. I know that the road

> ahead is still uphill and will be slow, but I am hopeful that Abby

> will begin to make some progress and that this will help continue to

> lift the depression. We will also be meeting with her PDoc next week

> to make another medication change. He is questioning why the

> hospital psychiatrist put her on Wellbutrin. As some of you may

> remember, I also questioned this decision at the time. The rationale

> seemed to have been that the depression was so severe that she needed

> relief from that first and foremost. I'm going prepared this time to

> discuss not only which medication we will try, but how quickly we can

> titrate it up. To date, she has never reached a therapeutic dosage

> for OCD on any of the SSRIs we have tried. I want to be sure that we

> give the SSRI a complete chance before we abandon it.

<snip>

> Last night at dinner, she told me that she does not mind if I discuss

> her OCD with other people, especially people that she does not know.

> So, this is my final post as " Gwen " . From here on out I will be

> posting under my real name: Greta Beard. And I will be sharing my

> daughter, 's, story with you. Thanks for listening.

January 8, 2001