Re: Naturally Thin

[Guest guest]

I love cheese too! Just call me Urkelette...

XOXOXO

Kiki

[Guest guest]

Connie,

As far as popcorn goes, I stay away from it. It is very carby. But boy do I

LOVE it! Occasional I will allow myself to have it. When I get that feeling

that I want something that's not exactly good for you in the high protein

respect, I go ahead. If I don't, I know from experience I'll get to the point

that I'll eat anything and everything in sight. I'm at the point tho, that I

don't have the cravings for it anymore, and I was popcorn Queen and pizza and

bread are such a down fall. That's where the roni's come in, for the pizza, and

of course the 'chips' for the crunch. It's not hard for me to say no, I can

remember the bloaty, puffy sick, tired feeling all the flour and sugar give

me. Also why food combining works so well. Don't mix your proteins and carbs,

and you aren't tired and ant a nap. Think Thanksgiving, Christmas or anytime

you eat a meal where it's carb and protein loaded.

XOXOXO

D...

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, Connie...

Yes you need a puter at home! LOL Forgot to answer the relish question. I

don't think I'd have it, but if you aren't over doing it, and the carb amount

isn't off the scale, go ahead. You might try for a week or 2 to stay away

from it. But if it keeps you happy, and like I said, don't over do it, go

ahead.

You/me/anyone, will never sick to anything if we feel deprived...

XOXOXO

Kiki

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/26/2004 9:25:27 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

cmiskini@... writes:

I feel great today just because I did NOT have any

cookies last night!

That's wonderful Connie! I really hope all the suggestions you're getting

from the wonderful people here can help you. They all are pretty darn good! If

nothing else, you'll feel better, more energy and all!!!! I'll be happy to

do my best to answer any questions you may have. And I'm gonn ahead to look

for some more recipes that I really enjoy and are simple with no yucky ingre

that so many 'low carbers' feel the need to use...did I say they were yucky?

LOL

Anyone else have any suggestions for food?

XOXOXO

Kik

XOXOXO

Kiki

[Guest guest]

...it is *grin* And makes getting through the week possible LOL

with love,

Jenni

Proud Air Force Mom!

May God guide and protect our troops!

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I

read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't

arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a

very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get

very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I

was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I

really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain

point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my

body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant

messenger " that I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never

thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never

had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight

gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look

pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20

pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately

sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed

amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I

" watched " it from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is

essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real

foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) --

with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies,

chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream,

butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) --

no scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a

2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her

way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems

like she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not

changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter,

coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing

so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is

more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

I never used the Weigh Down because Gwen denied that there is a Trinity...said

that there is no such thing in an interview which I was watching. Turned it

right off and wanted nothing to do with it. I do agree though that we should

eat more whole foods as they did in biblical times.

with love,

Jenni

Proud Air Force Mom!

May God guide and protect our troops!

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I

read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book

hasn't arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a

very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend

to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling

stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry,

have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat

until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm

trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently

I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never

thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I

never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first

pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly

low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the

ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went

berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop

gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines

(this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I

" watched " it from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is

essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the

real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my

book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want.

She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and

I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) --

no scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a

2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says

that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a

year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not

changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats

(butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the

justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book

when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Yum! I should live in Wisconsin...............I love cheese!

with love,

Jenni

Proud Air Force Mom!

May God guide and protect our troops!

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I

read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't

arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a

very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get

very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I

was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I

really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain

point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my

body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant

messenger " that I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never

thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never

had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight

gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look

pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20

pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately

sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed

amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I

" watched " it from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is

essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real

foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) --

with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies,

chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream,

butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) --

no scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a

2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her

way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems

like she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not

changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter,

coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing

so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is

more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/26/2004 11:44:54 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

cmiskini@... writes:

If we were all alike ~how boring!!!!!! That is the fun

hearing what is working for others and what they are doing and their

opinions, I already know mine! And I always learn something from

everyone!!

That is SOOOOO my way of thinking too!!! That's what makes it so interesting

to keep reading everyones input and ideas on things...

XOXOXO

Kiki

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

Would you mind sharing your crustless pumpkin pie recipe? I'm not a huge fan

of pp, but it would be nice to make one I could eat at the holidays if I

wanted. I know it wouldn't be wasted, family would eat it, crust or not...LOL

XOXOXO

Kiki

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kiki! I did pretty good yesterday, for supper I had tuna with

cheese melted on top (and relish, is that ok?). But then I had that

munchy feeling and I had light popcorn, if I had a computer at home (got

to get one) I would have asked you about the popcorn. I just like to

feel my mouth move up and down!! I need to go to store and get cauli--I

eat the yogurt butter for my cholesterol. And get some sour cream. I

feel more optimistic today! Hugs~Connie

Re: Naturally Thin

Connie,

YES, you can use butter. NOT margarine. In the mashed cauli, also

cheese,

bacon bits, things like that, I put sour cream on mine. Yeah, I put

cheese in,

and SC on, A LOT of things...LOL

I'm off to find some recipes to send. And I think make myse;f some

cauli for

dinner...LOL

XOXOXO

Kiki

[Guest guest]

:-)

Re: Naturally Thin

In a message dated 10/25/2004 11:59:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

cmiskini@... writes:

(PS I NEED kick/started!!! and only

friends do that!)

We'll be gental, I promise...LOL

XOXOXO

Kiki

[Guest guest]

, I must be a Wisconsin at heart because I love your cheeses too.

Hugs~ Connie

Re: Naturally Thin

Of course it is called Wisconsin Frying cheese(that is where I live)

we in Wisconsin love our cheese

R

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one

I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book

hasn't arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems

like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability

(I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up

feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get

hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger),

then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite.

Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full --

apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I

never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the

scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my

first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything

slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months --

but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor

went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop

gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines

(this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I

" watched " it from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is

essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the

real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my

book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want.

She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and

I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5

others) -- no scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight

in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she

says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well

over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm

not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats

(butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the

justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book

when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Oh My GOSH Jenni ! I did not know that. Hmmm. I have heard other

people say that but I guess I just don't understand the concept. Hugs~

Connie

Re: Naturally Thin

I never used the Weigh Down because Gwen denied that there is a

Trinity...said that there is no such thing in an interview which I was

watching. Turned it right off and wanted nothing to do with it. I do

agree though that we should eat more whole foods as they did in biblical

times.

with love,

Jenni

Proud Air Force Mom!

May God guide and protect our troops!

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I

read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book

hasn't arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems

like a

very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I

tend

to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling

stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get

hungry,

have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then

eat

until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now,

I'm

trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full --

apparently

I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I

never

thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the

scenarios. I

never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first

pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything

slightly

low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in

the

ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went

berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop

gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines

(this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I

" watched " it from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is

essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however,

the

real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of

my

book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you

want.

She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house --

and

I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others)

--

no scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in

a

2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she

says

that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over

a

year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm

not

changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats

(butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the

justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second

book

when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bonnie,

That sounds so easy and yummy! Just enough to take care of that want for the

taste. I'm going to keep this, and try it out for sure!

XOXOXO

Kiki

[Guest guest]

I thought the popcorn was probably too carby! I am going to the store

to get some of the alternatives you have suggested, I was too tired last

night :-) I am going to eat lunch out today and do Jenni's suggestion

of half meals! Maybe the other half for supper! :-) Hugs~Connie

Re: Naturally Thin

Connie,

As far as popcorn goes, I stay away from it. It is very carby. But boy

do I

LOVE it! Occasional I will allow myself to have it. When I get that

feeling

that I want something that's not exactly good for you in the high

protein

respect, I go ahead. If I don't, I know from experience I'll get to the

point

that I'll eat anything and everything in sight. I'm at the point tho,

that I

don't have the cravings for it anymore, and I was popcorn Queen and

pizza and

bread are such a down fall. That's where the roni's come in, for the

pizza, and

of course the 'chips' for the crunch. It's not hard for me to say no, I

can

remember the bloaty, puffy sick, tired feeling all the flour and sugar

give

me. Also why food combining works so well. Don't mix your proteins and

carbs,

and you aren't tired and ant a nap. Think Thanksgiving, Christmas or

anytime

you eat a meal where it's carb and protein loaded.

XOXOXO

D...

[Guest guest]

That is so true!! Like Life Lift, it makes us feel so good when we do

it we miss it when we don't. There has to be a real desire and/or

payoff to continue. I feel great today just because I did NOT have any

cookies last night! Connie ~

Re: Naturally Thin

Oh yeah, Connie...

Yes you need a puter at home! LOL Forgot to answer the relish

question. I

don't think I'd have it, but if you aren't over doing it, and the carb

amount

isn't off the scale, go ahead. You might try for a week or 2 to stay

away

from it. But if it keeps you happy, and like I said, don't over do it,

go ahead.

You/me/anyone, will never sick to anything if we feel deprived...

XOXOXO

Kiki

[Guest guest]

Hi, Bonnie!

Glad you got your book. I think it would have been a bit clearer if you'd had

the foods list. I wouldn't necessarily call the plan low fat, low sugar. But

of course, maybe it was because I was reading it with *my slant* - in other

words, looking at it all from where my needs are. I even missed the *negative

toward Atkins stuff* - - I've done Atkins and lower carb, but found the programs

too difficult to stick with longterm. Again, it was just my slant. I'm sure

it's a controversial program for some, but it helped me, and I thought it might

help someone else. It seemed more liveable to me than trying to do low carb the

rest of my life.

I'd read the Maker's Diet, too. It too, seemed easier for me. Isn't it funny

how what seems radical to one will seem workable to someone else? Just goes to

show we're definitely not *one size fits all* or *one diet fits all.*

Oh, well - Vive la Difference!!!

Hugs,

Melinda )

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is

the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very

good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very

hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was

young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really

wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point --

and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and

stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that

I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought

about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a

weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain

during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant

for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one

week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and

non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines

(this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it

from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially

a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods,

borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with

the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies,

chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream,

butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no

scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month

(I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of

eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like

she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not

changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter,

coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing

so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is

more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Hi Melinda, If we were all alike ~how boring!!!!!! That is the fun

hearing what is working for others and what they are doing and their

opinions, I already know mine! And I always learn something from

everyone!! Hugs~Connie

Re: Naturally Thin

Hi, Bonnie!

Glad you got your book. I think it would have been a bit clearer if

you'd had the foods list. I wouldn't necessarily call the plan low fat,

low sugar. But of course, maybe it was because I was reading it with

*my slant* - in other words, looking at it all from where my needs are.

I even missed the *negative toward Atkins stuff* - - I've done Atkins

and lower carb, but found the programs too difficult to stick with

longterm. Again, it was just my slant. I'm sure it's a controversial

program for some, but it helped me, and I thought it might help someone

else. It seemed more liveable to me than trying to do low carb the rest

of my life.

I'd read the Maker's Diet, too. It too, seemed easier for me. Isn't it

funny how what seems radical to one will seem workable to someone else?

Just goes to show we're definitely not *one size fits all* or *one diet

fits all.*

Oh, well - Vive la Difference!!!

Hugs,

Melinda )

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I

read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book

hasn't arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like

a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I

tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling

stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry,

have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat

until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm

trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently

I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never

thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I

never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first

pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly

low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the

ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went

berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop

gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines

(this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I

" watched " it from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is

essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the

real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my

book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want.

She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and

I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) --

no scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a

2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says

that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a

year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not

changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats

(butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the

justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book

when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Me too, Connie, me too!

Melinda )

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I

read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book

hasn't arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like

a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I

tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling

stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry,

have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat

until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm

trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently

I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never

thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I

never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first

pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly

low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the

ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went

berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop

gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines

(this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I

" watched " it from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is

essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the

real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my

book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want.

She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and

I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) --

no scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a

2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says

that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a

year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not

changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats

(butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the

justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book

when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Hi Melinda,

Isn't that the truth -- no diet fits all. Yet we somehow have to create an

eating plan that fits our families...

At this point in my life, it's just my husband and me -- but even that's hard!

He low-carbs like I do (low-carbing has corrected his high cholesterol, blood

pressure,etc.) -- but within the plan, he can eat as much as he wants whenever

he wants and still remain skinny (even with occasional full-blown cheats)!

Last night he wanted pumpkin pie (I make it without crust, heavy on the eggs,

and Splenda for the sweetener) -- he'll probably finish it (garnished with lots

of whipped cream) tonight -- and I find it so darned hard to eat just a little

bit (and I'll likely pick up a bit of weight just doing that!).

And for lunch every day he carries several ounces of almonds/cashews, along with

some sf candies -- plus leftovers, etc.... I've had to totally swear off of

nuts!

Life's not fair!!!!!

Bonnie

Re: Naturally Thin

Hi, Bonnie!

Glad you got your book. I think it would have been a bit clearer if you'd had

the foods list. I wouldn't necessarily call the plan low fat, low sugar. But

of course, maybe it was because I was reading it with *my slant* - in other

words, looking at it all from where my needs are. I even missed the *negative

toward Atkins stuff* - - I've done Atkins and lower carb, but found the programs

too difficult to stick with longterm. Again, it was just my slant. I'm sure

it's a controversial program for some, but it helped me, and I thought it might

help someone else. It seemed more liveable to me than trying to do low carb the

rest of my life.

I'd read the Maker's Diet, too. It too, seemed easier for me. Isn't it funny

how what seems radical to one will seem workable to someone else? Just goes to

show we're definitely not *one size fits all* or *one diet fits all.*

Oh, well - Vive la Difference!!!

Hugs,

Melinda )

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is

the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very

good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very

hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was

young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really

wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point --

and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and

stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that

I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought

about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a

weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain

during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant

for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one

week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and

non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines

(this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it

from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially

a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods,

borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with

the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies,

chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream,

butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no

scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month

(I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of

eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like

she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not

changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter,

coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing

so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is

more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Well, I suppose you can tell from my posts that I've been on a quest for some

time to find just the right eating plan for me. LOL

Melinda )

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is

the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a

very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get

very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I

was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I

really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain

point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my

body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant

messenger " that I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never

thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never

had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight

gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look

pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20

pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately

sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed

amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I

" watched " it from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is

essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real

foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) --

with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies,

chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream,

butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no

scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a

2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her

way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems

like she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not

changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter,

coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing

so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is

more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Hi Kiki,

I'm afraid it's nothing fancy -- I just put a dab of butter in the bottom of 6

small custard dishes, nuke to melt. Then I make the recipe on the back of the

Libby's pumpkin can, using 4 eggs rather than 3, substitute Splenda (use about

1/2 cup Splenda for 3/4 cup sugar), a little heavy on the cinnamon -- pour into

the custard dishes, bake at 425 for about 15 minutes, than at 350 for another

half hour or so (I check the doneness with a knife).

It does taste good, and the little cups warm up in the microwave easily.

Bonnie

Re: Naturally Thin

Bonnie,

Would you mind sharing your crustless pumpkin pie recipe? I'm not a huge fan

of pp, but it would be nice to make one I could eat at the holidays if I

wanted. I know it wouldn't be wasted, family would eat it, crust or not...LOL

XOXOXO

Kiki

[Guest guest]

I agree with you all

I cannot imagine cheese

R

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one

I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book

hasn't arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems

like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability

(I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up

feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get

hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger),

then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite.

Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full --

apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I

never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the

scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my

first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything

slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months --

but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor

went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop

gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines

(this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I

" watched " it from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is

essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the

real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my

book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want.

She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and

I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5

others) -- no scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight

in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she

says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well

over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm

not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats

(butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the

justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book

when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Bonnie

That is so true

R

Naturally Thin

Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is

the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet.

Some comments:

1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a

very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get

very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I

was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I

really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain

point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my

body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant

messenger " that I once did.

2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never

thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never

had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight

gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look

pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20

pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately

sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed

amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I

" watched " it from that time on.....

3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is

essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real

foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) --

with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies,

chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream,

butter, and mayo out too.

4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no

scientific studies or reasons.

5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a

2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her

way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems

like she gave the low-carb a good chance.

Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not

changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter,

coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing

so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is

more information in it....

Looking for comments....

Bonnie