Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 I love cheese too! Just call me Urkelette... XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Connie, As far as popcorn goes, I stay away from it. It is very carby. But boy do I LOVE it! Occasional I will allow myself to have it. When I get that feeling that I want something that's not exactly good for you in the high protein respect, I go ahead. If I don't, I know from experience I'll get to the point that I'll eat anything and everything in sight. I'm at the point tho, that I don't have the cravings for it anymore, and I was popcorn Queen and pizza and bread are such a down fall. That's where the roni's come in, for the pizza, and of course the 'chips' for the crunch. It's not hard for me to say no, I can remember the bloaty, puffy sick, tired feeling all the flour and sugar give me. Also why food combining works so well. Don't mix your proteins and carbs, and you aren't tired and ant a nap. Think Thanksgiving, Christmas or anytime you eat a meal where it's carb and protein loaded. XOXOXO D... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Oh yeah, Connie... Yes you need a puter at home! LOL Forgot to answer the relish question. I don't think I'd have it, but if you aren't over doing it, and the carb amount isn't off the scale, go ahead. You might try for a week or 2 to stay away from it. But if it keeps you happy, and like I said, don't over do it, go ahead. You/me/anyone, will never sick to anything if we feel deprived... XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 In a message dated 10/26/2004 9:25:27 AM Mountain Daylight Time, cmiskini@... writes: I feel great today just because I did NOT have any cookies last night! That's wonderful Connie! I really hope all the suggestions you're getting from the wonderful people here can help you. They all are pretty darn good! If nothing else, you'll feel better, more energy and all!!!! I'll be happy to do my best to answer any questions you may have. And I'm gonn ahead to look for some more recipes that I really enjoy and are simple with no yucky ingre that so many 'low carbers' feel the need to use...did I say they were yucky? LOL Anyone else have any suggestions for food? XOXOXO Kik XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 ...it is *grin* And makes getting through the week possible LOL with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 I never used the Weigh Down because Gwen denied that there is a Trinity...said that there is no such thing in an interview which I was watching. Turned it right off and wanted nothing to do with it. I do agree though that we should eat more whole foods as they did in biblical times. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Yum! I should live in Wisconsin...............I love cheese! with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 In a message dated 10/26/2004 11:44:54 AM Mountain Daylight Time, cmiskini@... writes: If we were all alike ~how boring!!!!!! That is the fun hearing what is working for others and what they are doing and their opinions, I already know mine! And I always learn something from everyone!! That is SOOOOO my way of thinking too!!! That's what makes it so interesting to keep reading everyones input and ideas on things... XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Bonnie, Would you mind sharing your crustless pumpkin pie recipe? I'm not a huge fan of pp, but it would be nice to make one I could eat at the holidays if I wanted. I know it wouldn't be wasted, family would eat it, crust or not...LOL XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Thanks Kiki! I did pretty good yesterday, for supper I had tuna with cheese melted on top (and relish, is that ok?). But then I had that munchy feeling and I had light popcorn, if I had a computer at home (got to get one) I would have asked you about the popcorn. I just like to feel my mouth move up and down!! I need to go to store and get cauli--I eat the yogurt butter for my cholesterol. And get some sour cream. I feel more optimistic today! Hugs~Connie Re: Naturally Thin Connie, YES, you can use butter. NOT margarine. In the mashed cauli, also cheese, bacon bits, things like that, I put sour cream on mine. Yeah, I put cheese in, and SC on, A LOT of things...LOL I'm off to find some recipes to send. And I think make myse;f some cauli for dinner...LOL XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 :-) Re: Naturally Thin In a message dated 10/25/2004 11:59:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time, cmiskini@... writes: (PS I NEED kick/started!!! and only friends do that!) We'll be gental, I promise...LOL XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 , I must be a Wisconsin at heart because I love your cheeses too. Hugs~ Connie Re: Naturally Thin Of course it is called Wisconsin Frying cheese(that is where I live) we in Wisconsin love our cheese R Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Oh My GOSH Jenni ! I did not know that. Hmmm. I have heard other people say that but I guess I just don't understand the concept. Hugs~ Connie Re: Naturally Thin I never used the Weigh Down because Gwen denied that there is a Trinity...said that there is no such thing in an interview which I was watching. Turned it right off and wanted nothing to do with it. I do agree though that we should eat more whole foods as they did in biblical times. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Thanks Bonnie, That sounds so easy and yummy! Just enough to take care of that want for the taste. I'm going to keep this, and try it out for sure! XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 I thought the popcorn was probably too carby! I am going to the store to get some of the alternatives you have suggested, I was too tired last night :-) I am going to eat lunch out today and do Jenni's suggestion of half meals! Maybe the other half for supper! :-) Hugs~Connie Re: Naturally Thin Connie, As far as popcorn goes, I stay away from it. It is very carby. But boy do I LOVE it! Occasional I will allow myself to have it. When I get that feeling that I want something that's not exactly good for you in the high protein respect, I go ahead. If I don't, I know from experience I'll get to the point that I'll eat anything and everything in sight. I'm at the point tho, that I don't have the cravings for it anymore, and I was popcorn Queen and pizza and bread are such a down fall. That's where the roni's come in, for the pizza, and of course the 'chips' for the crunch. It's not hard for me to say no, I can remember the bloaty, puffy sick, tired feeling all the flour and sugar give me. Also why food combining works so well. Don't mix your proteins and carbs, and you aren't tired and ant a nap. Think Thanksgiving, Christmas or anytime you eat a meal where it's carb and protein loaded. XOXOXO D... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 That is so true!! Like Life Lift, it makes us feel so good when we do it we miss it when we don't. There has to be a real desire and/or payoff to continue. I feel great today just because I did NOT have any cookies last night! Connie ~ Re: Naturally Thin Oh yeah, Connie... Yes you need a puter at home! LOL Forgot to answer the relish question. I don't think I'd have it, but if you aren't over doing it, and the carb amount isn't off the scale, go ahead. You might try for a week or 2 to stay away from it. But if it keeps you happy, and like I said, don't over do it, go ahead. You/me/anyone, will never sick to anything if we feel deprived... XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Hi, Bonnie! Glad you got your book. I think it would have been a bit clearer if you'd had the foods list. I wouldn't necessarily call the plan low fat, low sugar. But of course, maybe it was because I was reading it with *my slant* - in other words, looking at it all from where my needs are. I even missed the *negative toward Atkins stuff* - - I've done Atkins and lower carb, but found the programs too difficult to stick with longterm. Again, it was just my slant. I'm sure it's a controversial program for some, but it helped me, and I thought it might help someone else. It seemed more liveable to me than trying to do low carb the rest of my life. I'd read the Maker's Diet, too. It too, seemed easier for me. Isn't it funny how what seems radical to one will seem workable to someone else? Just goes to show we're definitely not *one size fits all* or *one diet fits all.* Oh, well - Vive la Difference!!! Hugs, Melinda ) Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Hi Melinda, If we were all alike ~how boring!!!!!! That is the fun hearing what is working for others and what they are doing and their opinions, I already know mine! And I always learn something from everyone!! Hugs~Connie Re: Naturally Thin Hi, Bonnie! Glad you got your book. I think it would have been a bit clearer if you'd had the foods list. I wouldn't necessarily call the plan low fat, low sugar. But of course, maybe it was because I was reading it with *my slant* - in other words, looking at it all from where my needs are. I even missed the *negative toward Atkins stuff* - - I've done Atkins and lower carb, but found the programs too difficult to stick with longterm. Again, it was just my slant. I'm sure it's a controversial program for some, but it helped me, and I thought it might help someone else. It seemed more liveable to me than trying to do low carb the rest of my life. I'd read the Maker's Diet, too. It too, seemed easier for me. Isn't it funny how what seems radical to one will seem workable to someone else? Just goes to show we're definitely not *one size fits all* or *one diet fits all.* Oh, well - Vive la Difference!!! Hugs, Melinda ) Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Me too, Connie, me too! Melinda ) Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Hi Melinda, Isn't that the truth -- no diet fits all. Yet we somehow have to create an eating plan that fits our families... At this point in my life, it's just my husband and me -- but even that's hard! He low-carbs like I do (low-carbing has corrected his high cholesterol, blood pressure,etc.) -- but within the plan, he can eat as much as he wants whenever he wants and still remain skinny (even with occasional full-blown cheats)! Last night he wanted pumpkin pie (I make it without crust, heavy on the eggs, and Splenda for the sweetener) -- he'll probably finish it (garnished with lots of whipped cream) tonight -- and I find it so darned hard to eat just a little bit (and I'll likely pick up a bit of weight just doing that!). And for lunch every day he carries several ounces of almonds/cashews, along with some sf candies -- plus leftovers, etc.... I've had to totally swear off of nuts! Life's not fair!!!!! Bonnie Re: Naturally Thin Hi, Bonnie! Glad you got your book. I think it would have been a bit clearer if you'd had the foods list. I wouldn't necessarily call the plan low fat, low sugar. But of course, maybe it was because I was reading it with *my slant* - in other words, looking at it all from where my needs are. I even missed the *negative toward Atkins stuff* - - I've done Atkins and lower carb, but found the programs too difficult to stick with longterm. Again, it was just my slant. I'm sure it's a controversial program for some, but it helped me, and I thought it might help someone else. It seemed more liveable to me than trying to do low carb the rest of my life. I'd read the Maker's Diet, too. It too, seemed easier for me. Isn't it funny how what seems radical to one will seem workable to someone else? Just goes to show we're definitely not *one size fits all* or *one diet fits all.* Oh, well - Vive la Difference!!! Hugs, Melinda ) Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Well, I suppose you can tell from my posts that I've been on a quest for some time to find just the right eating plan for me. LOL Melinda ) Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Hi Kiki, I'm afraid it's nothing fancy -- I just put a dab of butter in the bottom of 6 small custard dishes, nuke to melt. Then I make the recipe on the back of the Libby's pumpkin can, using 4 eggs rather than 3, substitute Splenda (use about 1/2 cup Splenda for 3/4 cup sugar), a little heavy on the cinnamon -- pour into the custard dishes, bake at 425 for about 15 minutes, than at 350 for another half hour or so (I check the doneness with a knife). It does taste good, and the little cups warm up in the microwave easily. Bonnie Re: Naturally Thin Bonnie, Would you mind sharing your crustless pumpkin pie recipe? I'm not a huge fan of pp, but it would be nice to make one I could eat at the holidays if I wanted. I know it wouldn't be wasted, family would eat it, crust or not...LOL XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 I agree with you all I cannot imagine cheese R Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Bonnie That is so true R Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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