Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Jennie, I like your idea -- I think I will start it tonight -- let's see, we're having pork chops (with mushrooms/brandy/cream/mustard sauce -- a favorite of my husband's -- but which always sits heavy on me) -- I will put half my portion into the fridge! And maybe Harry will eat it for me! I think I will simply cut back a bit on the salad, but not halve it -- I don't like wilted greens, runny tomatoes, limp cucumbers, and blackened avocadoes Thanks! Bonnie Re: Naturally Thin Bonnie, Would it be possible for a bit to make meals that you can halve? One thing I've started doing, since I only cook for me now with my dear Rick on the road, is on the weekend I'll make up meals for the week. I divide them in two and usually freeze one. That way at the end of the day I already have something ready and can often zap it. If I don't do it during the weekend...like this past weekend we were out of town. I also am trying to make half the salad I normally would make for me. I'm really bad with the " eyes are bigger than my stomach " believe it or not (looking down at my extra rolls *grimace*). When I can't get it done during the weekend, like this past weekend as we were out of town I've been doing the following. What I have been doing is fixing my plate up just the way I normally would. Then I literally divide what's on my plate in half and put half on another plate, put a piece of press n wrap on it and shove it in the fridge. Now I will say that I don't always eat the other plate, it often gets thrown out, but I figure it is the price I need to pay right now to NOT eat what I used to. I do find that after eating the " half " plate, I'm usually full enough to NOT get up and get the other plate and have to zap it because it's already cold in the fridge. The thing I have found with this method is that you MUST put the second half, wrapped in the fridge, or you will get up out of your chair and grab the plate and eat it LOL At least I do. So once it's all put away..it's sort of out of site, out of mind..you know? with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 No, I've not tried that -- though I do remember talk about it (on one of the bulletin boards) of nuking cheese????? So, how do you do it -- grated or sliced? and do you use any oil? I think I would prefer " frying " it, I like the soft center of the frying cheese... BTW, the price isn't too bad -- $3.50 for a pound block -- we pay that for other types, too.... String sounds particularly interesting, it's basically low fat and low sodium .... how do you do that one -- all in one piece or do you shred it or ????? Bonnie Re: Naturally Thin Bonnie, have you ever just melted your cheese in a pan or in the microwave to make it into 'chips'? It's YUMMY! It takes about 2 to 3 minutes if you nuke it. I actually like it better than having chips, no bloating and sick feelings, and it comes out crunchy. I've used, string, mozzarella, pepper jack, then use with salsa or whatever. Any cheese can be used. I've never heard of the frying cheese you mentioned, but sounds like a new marketing strategy to me to up the price... Love ya, Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Kiki, Each morning we have a fairly large breakfast -- right now I'm eating eggs (scrambled, omelets) -- on weekends I add cheese, mushrooms, olives.... -- during the week just plain. And coffee with half-and-half. My breakfast tends to keep me until early afternoon. Then, about 1:30 or so, I'll eat a pouch of tuna or chicken -- maybe a string cheese or two. Sometimes leftovers from the night before (particularly cottage cheese salad -- I love the stuff!). And just lately I've added a hard-boiled egg at around 5:00 PM (just before I leave work). I'm upping my eating, but I'm trying to keep it healthy (sort of!) and fairly low-carb..... And I'm trying to keep the salt reasonable (can't stand jerky and the salty, metallic taste! -- though my husband and dogs love the stuff!). Bonnie Re: Naturally Thin Bonnie, If you're that hungry when you get home, you should be having a snack or 2 during the day. What do you eat for breakfast, lunch and snack? Eat several small 'meals' during the day and maybe that will help. Try beef jerky, individual SF jello pots, string cheese. There's more that I can't think of right now. Love ya, Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Bonnie...you can keep your lettuce crisp with a paper towel! Line a container with a sealed lid with a paper towel. Clean your head of lettuce and break it up and put it in the bowl. Seal. Stays crisp for a week! I learned this about a month ago and now I don't have to clean my lettuce every I eat. Also, I cut of a section of cucumber for my salad and put the cuke back in the fridge in a sealed bowl. I actually cube everything and put them in separate bowls...they usually last about 3 days...even the tomatoes If you put them all together they get yucky. The only thing I've learned not to cut up is my mushrooms...they brown very easily if you cut them up in advance. None of my veges are ever runny. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Kiki, I hear you but I think Bonnie and I are the old school and it's really hard to lose a habit that was ingrained all your life. I too got the strap when I didn't finish my plate. You don't forget something like that very easily and when you do try to do it you feel sooooooooooooo guilty! I can still see my dad's red face when I went in the bathroom and got sick over stewed tomatoes..........to this day I can't smell them without feeling nauseous .... he got the strap and put another helping on my plate. Talking about ingrained......LOL (rubbing butt) with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Re: Naturally Thin Jenni, good idea too. Food prep, I've heard is the way to go...LOL Sure wish I could do that, every time I get hungry and want to eat, I always wish I had it all made...LOL I guess I have no problem pushing away a plate, and putting it in the fridge. Not saying I can't pig out big time, just doesn't happen very often at all. I get to sick when I do that. Bonnie, have you just tried putting a smaller portion on your plate? Try to fool yourself into knowing you cleaned your plate, if that's the problem? You probably have, but I'm just trying to come up with something too, that may help. Love ya, Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Bonnie, What about a pear, or an apple instead of the pouch of food? It's a healthy alternative and will keep your blood sugar going, and help you feel full. Then before you leave work that hardboiled egg? with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Re: Naturally Thin Bonnie, If you're that hungry when you get home, you should be having a snack or 2 during the day. What do you eat for breakfast, lunch and snack? Eat several small 'meals' during the day and maybe that will help. Try beef jerky, individual SF jello pots, string cheese. There's more that I can't think of right now. Love ya, Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I'd like to hear about this too. with love, jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Re: Naturally Thin Bonnie, have you ever just melted your cheese in a pan or in the microwave to make it into 'chips'? It's YUMMY! It takes about 2 to 3 minutes if you nuke it. I actually like it better than having chips, no bloating and sick feelings, and it comes out crunchy. I've used, string, mozzarella, pepper jack, then use with salsa or whatever. Any cheese can be used. I've never heard of the frying cheese you mentioned, but sounds like a new marketing strategy to me to up the price... Love ya, Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Bonnie, The Weigh Down diet book says to wait until you are really hungry, stomach growling hungry, when you first feel hungry -wait 10 minutes to make sure it is true hunger and then eat only until your tummy feels " pleasantly full " if you are not sure ask God to help you discern this and stop eating. Then wait again until you are stomach growling hungry and stop again when your tummy is " pleasantly full " again asking our Fathers help with discernment. When you get munchies , mindless, food wants, stop and ask for our creators help and if after a few minutes of meditation you still want it go ahead and eat it. Without guilt, but after awhile you will find you don't really want to. I was on this for a month and lost 12 pounds, so I know it works. But my Dr. didn't;t think I was wafting enough and told me to eat more and cut crabs. Obviously, that didn't work!! I am thinking of trying God's way again. Hugs~Connie Re: Naturally Thin Hi Bonnie, I read that book many years ago. She does have some good points...i.e. eating until your satisfied...I've gotten away from that. But I think part of that, for me anyway, was that you never left anything on your plate. I remember being punished as a child for doing that, and I think those old habits die hard....you know? I never had a weight problem until I turned 40. I started gaining on a regular basis, but rather than cut back on anything, I just ignored it. Almost 40 pounds later I'm regretting not listening to my body. I've slowly gone to the " whole food " diet. I like the way I feel. I haven't lost any weight per se, but I do like the energy. I simply don't eat processed foods, with the exception of things like may, mustard, ketchup, salad dressing...things like that. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I was following you Kiki! Can you give me an example of a days eating for you? I am always searching.... Hugs~ Connie Re: Naturally Thin Good morning ladies {and any men lurkers...LOL} I'm coming late to this conversation. The book, Naturally Thin, does sound like it has some OK ideas in it. Now, I can tell you this, it's NOT for me. I refuse to be one of those people who get all upset and think everyone should follow MY WAY! I know people like this and I just wanna ring their necks sometimes...LOL I've been eating high protein for more years than I'll ever admit to I don't follow Adkins as a rule, but some of his ideas are ones I've used all this time. I started with Stillmans, that I think came out right around, I think just before, Adkins, back in the 70's. It works for me. I did try the low fat for a time and all I did was gain weight. {I did enjoy those taters tho...LOL} I believe in the, eat till your satisfied, and have never counted carbs or calories. I look at the carbs, but pay more attention to the protein, it's what burns fat. I know this works for me, and it may not work for everyone, correction, it WON'T work for everyone. I've done it so long that when I do eat something with flour and/or sugar, I spend a lot of time in the bathroom. I'm also not one who has to have all these variety of foods like so many. I try to stick to the basics and know that I can allow myself to add a little more here and there, if I want. Does any of this even pertain to what you're talking about? LOL I did perk up when she said she spent 2 months on Adkins and didn't lose weight, only replaced fat for muscle....DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Muscle weighs more, but takes up LESS space so to speak...LOL Doesn't sound like she wants to admit she lost inches or that the eating plan worked for her. But then, if she did that, she couldn't sell her books, huh? I think I may be rambling. I need to go get ready to go to the soup kitchen... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I love that idea Jenni! Thanks Connie Re: Naturally Thin Bonnie, Would it be possible for a bit to make meals that you can halve? One thing I've started doing, since I only cook for me now with my dear Rick on the road, is on the weekend I'll make up meals for the week. I divide them in two and usually freeze one. That way at the end of the day I already have something ready and can often zap it. If I don't do it during the weekend...like this past weekend we were out of town. I also am trying to make half the salad I normally would make for me. I'm really bad with the " eyes are bigger than my stomach " believe it or not (looking down at my extra rolls *grimace*). When I can't get it done during the weekend, like this past weekend as we were out of town I've been doing the following. What I have been doing is fixing my plate up just the way I normally would. Then I literally divide what's on my plate in half and put half on another plate, put a piece of press n wrap on it and shove it in the fridge. Now I will say that I don't always eat the other plate, it often gets thrown out, but I figure it is the price I need to pay right now to NOT eat what I used to. I do find that after eating the " half " plate, I'm usually full enough to NOT get up and get the other plate and have to zap it because it's already cold in the fridge. The thing I have found with this method is that you MUST put the second half, wrapped in the fridge, or you will get up out of your chair and grab the plate and eat it LOL At least I do. So once it's all put away..it's sort of out of site, out of mind..you know? with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 You are right about that Kiki, I think for me it helped me cut down on how often I ate. But my bad eating is evening. I am trying to combine all diets I have learned into something I can lose and live with!! I gained 2 more pounds this week I am ashamed to say. :-( Connie Re: Naturally Thin Connie, While I will not disagree on you with asking GOD for help in this matter, what I have a problem with is waiting till your that hungry! That's when people will eat WAY more than they should or even want. We get so hungry that we tend to shovel it in and don't realize that we were full many, many mouthfulls ago. IMO, when you start thinking you're hungry, drink a glass of water and wait that 10 minutes. Water does fill you up and make you see that it wasn't hunger. Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Thank You Kiki, I printed this out, you have some good ideas and I like everything ... but what is a frattata?? Sounds good! Hugs~Connie Re: Naturally Thin Connie, My eating probably isn't the best...LOL I tend to NOT eat, something I fight every day, not to go back to old habits. I try to stick with protein and do add in veggies when I remember. Cauli with some sour cream and maybe some cheese, green beans, broc. {these are the ones I eat mostly} Stay away form the yellow ones...corn {I love corn but it's HIGH in carbs and natural sugar}, carrots, same thing, etc. I may have 3 scrambled eggs and add broc. or bacon, or both with cheese melted in. I try to always have chicken cooked up and will warm a piece and have it with ranch. Sometimes I'll melt a piece of cheese on it too. I'll cook up a batch of taco meat and make it like taco guts, with no shell. There is a shell on the market that I've used for years, cuz it's think like I like them. I had no idea they were LC...LOL I'm drawing a blank on the brand tho. Hamburger patties with NO ketchup, since it's full sugar. OK, by me I LOVE cheap yellow mustard. They have LC tortillas now that are not bad at all. So you can wrap a hotdog {ALL BEEF} in that if you don't want it plain. I'll also cut hotdogs in half, fry them in a pan and make a couple soft in the middle eggs for dunking purposes. Turkey from the deli is good. Get lettuce, not iceburg, and use that as your bread. Put mayo on it, cheese, and tomato if you want. I use it as a 'shell' for tacos too. I can make them up, put them in my bag or take on a picnic and I have a tummy snack too. Make fratattas {sp} Those are really good. Put some salsa on your omelets, sour cream too if you want. That's all I can think of right now, but I'm sure there are other things and I'll let you know. I'm doing good to eat 2 kinda meals a day. I just try to make it as high in protein as I can. Usually a high protein selection will be pretty low carb. Also, I don't use the store bought low carb stuff. Most of it isn't! I did buy some of the Doretos chips and they were good. TO GOOD, I ate 1 and a 1/2 bags in a weekend. No more of that! I'll take the cheese chips. KISS Keep it simple sweetie, a good thing to go by. XOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I did find a low carb salad dressing, catsup and steak sauce at our health food store. I went over the ingredients and there is no hidden anything in it. I love it, but you have to get used to it. I still love my catalina dressing so I do use about 2 TBS of that on my salad though. But their italian dressing isn't too bad...you just have to acquire a taste for it. I want to learn to make my own dressing like catalina but haven't figured it out yet. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Re: Naturally Thin Connie, My eating probably isn't the best...LOL I tend to NOT eat, something I fight every day, not to go back to old habits. I try to stick with protein and do add in veggies when I remember. Cauli with some sour cream and maybe some cheese, green beans, broc. {these are the ones I eat mostly} Stay away form the yellow ones...corn {I love corn but it's HIGH in carbs and natural sugar}, carrots, same thing, etc. I may have 3 scrambled eggs and add broc. or bacon, or both with cheese melted in. I try to always have chicken cooked up and will warm a piece and have it with ranch. Sometimes I'll melt a piece of cheese on it too. I'll cook up a batch of taco meat and make it like taco guts, with no shell. There is a shell on the market that I've used for years, cuz it's think like I like them. I had no idea they were LC...LOL I'm drawing a blank on the brand tho. Hamburger patties with NO ketchup, since it's full sugar. OK, by me I LOVE cheap yellow mustard. They have LC tortillas now that are not bad at all. So you can wrap a hotdog {ALL BEEF} in that if you don't want it plain. I'll also cut hotdogs in half, fry them in a pan and make a couple soft in the middle eggs for dunking purposes. Turkey from the deli is good. Get lettuce, not iceburg, and use that as your bread. Put mayo on it, cheese, and tomato if you want. I use it as a 'shell' for tacos too. I can make them up, put them in my bag or take on a picnic and I have a tummy snack too. Make fratattas {sp} Those are really good. Put some salsa on your omelets, sour cream too if you want. That's all I can think of right now, but I'm sure there are other things and I'll let you know. I'm doing good to eat 2 kinda meals a day. I just try to make it as high in protein as I can. Usually a high protein selection will be pretty low carb. Also, I don't use the store bought low carb stuff. Most of it isn't! I did buy some of the Doretos chips and they were good. TO GOOD, I ate 1 and a 1/2 bags in a weekend. No more of that! I'll take the cheese chips. KISS Keep it simple sweetie, a good thing to go by. XOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Can I put butter on them, KiKi? Hugs~Connie Re: Naturally Thin Connie, I understand the night time, bordom eating! That'swhen I get out the cheese and or ronies. They really take care of that need and I am satisfied much faster. Just thought of something else you may want to try. Faux tatoes and caulisaold. O steam cauli till it's kinda mushy and them smash it up like you would for mashed patatoes, that's another yummy! Or cut it up and add the ingre for potato salad. In all honesty, I like it better. Have no full, bloaty, hevy feeling what so ever... XOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Thanks Kiki!!!! Hugs,~ Connie (PS I NEED kick/started!!! and only friends do that!) Re: Naturally Thin Connie, I'm getting ready to leave for the soup kitchen, but when I get home I'll send some recipes. A fratata {still don't know how to spell it...LOL} It's egg and a few other ingre. It's thin and you cook it in the oven. I'll be thinking of some other things tol, I hope...LOL Please be aware that I am NOT trying to force this down your throat, but make a suggestion of how to maybe get you kick started. See y'all this evening. Now don't go getting into trouble while I'm gone! That's mY job...LOL XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Kiki, Cauli and butter is one of my favorites! I keep telling the kids it tastes like mashed potatoes but they don't believe me! Think I just figured out lunch LOL with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Re: Naturally Thin Connie, I understand the night time, bordom eating! That'swhen I get out the cheese and or ronies. They really take care of that need and I am satisfied much faster. Just thought of something else you may want to try. Faux tatoes and caulisaold. O steam cauli till it's kinda mushy and them smash it up like you would for mashed patatoes, that's another yummy! Or cut it up and add the ingre for potato salad. In all honesty, I like it better. Have no full, bloaty, hevy feeling what so ever... XOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Connie, YES, you can use butter. NOT margarine. In the mashed cauli, also cheese, bacon bits, things like that, I put sour cream on mine. Yeah, I put cheese in, and SC on, A LOT of things...LOL I'm off to find some recipes to send. And I think make myse;f some cauli for dinner...LOL XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 In a message dated 10/25/2004 11:59:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time, cmiskini@... writes: (PS I NEED kick/started!!! and only friends do that!) We'll be gental, I promise...LOL XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Jenni, I hear ya on kids not believing you...LOL I was very lucky with my kids, they have always loved their veggies. We'd go out to a Mexican place to eat, and they'd want the taco salad. Not so much anymore tho...LOL Make the mashed cauli, and don't tell them...maybe you can sneak one over on them??!! I made myself hungry for cauli so I'm gonna have that for dinner. I'd love some roni chips, but I forgot to freeze part of my HUGE bag I got at Sams and it kinda spoiled...drat it all! Guess cheese chips and salsa will have to do tonight. XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I wish restaurants would not feel the need to give such HUGE portions. It's no wonder people are over weight. Specially if they grew up in the same way, to clean their plate! I always know I'll need a to go container. I can get one to two more meals out of what's left. I say make the portions smaller and reduce the price!!! Lets picket!!!! I've never been a fruit eater, or much of a sweet eater, so that has never been an issue for me. When I want a little something, I get out the Jello and put some real whipped cream on it. Altho I have been using the Land O Lakes 0 carb, 0 sugar, 0 everything it seems, spray WC in a can. It's good! I try too, to keep my carbs down, and am usually very successful at it, since I try to eat the high protein. As for processed foods, I know they aren't good for you, and don't eat much of them. Yes, I do eat cheese, bacon, hotdogs, meat in general, and I know what they do to the animals to get them in the shape they are. I wish I could afford to buy grass fed beef all the time. That's the best for you. Until then, I'll do what I've always done. I agree with you Bonnie, on The Makers Diet. Way to extreme for me, but I'm sure it works fine for others. I just try to go by KISS, keep it simple sweetie. It works out well for me... XOXOXO Kiki {PS, when I said for y'all not to get in trouble while I was away, I didn't mean for you to stop all together...LOL!!!!! And Bonnie, how rude of your bosses to think you should actually work!} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Wow, I just came back to my email (for some reason, they expect me to work here ....) -- and what a lot of very good ideas! I am definitely going to start " splitting " my evening meal -- and if it's not important enough to get up and get the second half, then I'll just forego it. I have a very good friend who, whenever we go out to eat, orders a doggie bag along with her meal. When her food is served, she immediately divides it into 2 portions -- eats one and takes the other home for the next day. I have also started that with eating out (the portions are typically way too large for me -- I got 2 meals out of our steak dinner last Saturday, and I felt good afterwards, not stuffed like my husband felt). I am really leery of introducing carbs into my diet (particularly fruits -- I can eat several apples in an afternoon) -- I no longer seem to crave the sweets (except for the occasional lo-carb chocolate and/or cheesecake). I love breads, the heavier the better -- but I plan to wait until I get some weight off before eating these again. A while back I read a book " The Maker's Diet " -- I think many of you would enjoy this book and agree with the basic tenets. Essentially if God didn't create the food -- as eaten -- then don't eat it. In other words, nothing processed. It seemed much too extreme for me, but it was an interesting read.... Tanks for all the input! Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 I like the weigh down book also R Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Jenni That sounds like a special treat! R Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Of course it is called Wisconsin Frying cheese(that is where I live) we in Wisconsin love our cheese R Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Great Job Jenni That is what I do when I go out to a restaurant and bring it home for someone else to share I do it as soon as I get the meal so I'm not tempted It has helped me alot Portion control has been a key factor and daily LL with my 27 lb weight loss. water also is a big help R Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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