Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Good morning ladies {and any men lurkers...LOL} I'm coming late to this conversation. The book, Naturally Thin, does sound like it has some OK ideas in it. Now, I can tell you this, it's NOT for me. I refuse to be one of those people who get all upset and think everyone should follow MY WAY! I know people like this and I just wanna ring their necks sometimes...LOL I've been eating high protein for more years than I'll ever admit to I don't follow Adkins as a rule, but some of his ideas are ones I've used all this time. I started with Stillmans, that I think came out right around, I think just before, Adkins, back in the 70's. It works for me. I did try the low fat for a time and all I did was gain weight. {I did enjoy those taters tho...LOL} I believe in the, eat till your satisfied, and have never counted carbs or calories. I look at the carbs, but pay more attention to the protein, it's what burns fat. I know this works for me, and it may not work for everyone, correction, it WON'T work for everyone. I've done it so long that when I do eat something with flour and/or sugar, I spend a lot of time in the bathroom. I'm also not one who has to have all these variety of foods like so many. I try to stick to the basics and know that I can allow myself to add a little more here and there, if I want. Does any of this even pertain to what you're talking about? LOL I did perk up when she said she spent 2 months on Adkins and didn't lose weight, only replaced fat for muscle....DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Muscle weighs more, but takes up LESS space so to speak...LOL Doesn't sound like she wants to admit she lost inches or that the eating plan worked for her. But then, if she did that, she couldn't sell her books, huh? I think I may be rambling. I need to go get ready to go to the soup kitchen... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Bonnie, have you ever just melted your cheese in a pan or in the microwave to make it into 'chips'? It's YUMMY! It takes about 2 to 3 minutes if you nuke it. I actually like it better than having chips, no bloating and sick feelings, and it comes out crunchy. I've used, string, mozzarella, pepper jack, then use with salsa or whatever. Any cheese can be used. I've never heard of the frying cheese you mentioned, but sounds like a new marketing strategy to me to up the price... Love ya, Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Bonnie, If you're that hungry when you get home, you should be having a snack or 2 during the day. What do you eat for breakfast, lunch and snack? Eat several small 'meals' during the day and maybe that will help. Try beef jerky, individual SF jello pots, string cheese. There's more that I can't think of right now. Love ya, Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Jenni, good idea too. Food prep, I've heard is the way to go...LOL Sure wish I could do that, every time I get hungry and want to eat, I always wish I had it all made...LOL I guess I have no problem pushing away a plate, and putting it in the fridge. Not saying I can't pig out big time, just doesn't happen very often at all. I get to sick when I do that. Bonnie, have you just tried putting a smaller portion on your plate? Try to fool yourself into knowing you cleaned your plate, if that's the problem? You probably have, but I'm just trying to come up with something too, that may help. Love ya, Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 All you do is cut it into pieces. I usually cut the string cheese into 4 to 8 pieces. Put them on a MWable dish and nuke. It all depends on how crisp you want it. You can do it less time and have your soft center. If it's not as done as I want it, I'll nuke it a few more seconds till it gets there. On the others, I cut a slice, maybe about 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick {?} put the chucks on the plate and do the same thing. Some people just buy the already chunked ones and do it that way. I get mine at Sams in the bulk chucks, then slice. Much cheaper than a grocery store. Also, have you made pepperoni chips? YUMMMY, with pizza sauce and cheese melted on them. Put the ronies on some layers of paper towels and nuke. You can make them as crisp or not as you like, add the toppings, nuke again, and it's like pizza topping... Love ya, Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Bonnie, Your menu sounds just fine! A thought, what about upping your fat intake? I know this works for so many when they do it. How about moving? What do you do? Upping that may help get you start to lose and firm... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Connie, While I will not disagree on you with asking GOD for help in this matter, what I have a problem with is waiting till your that hungry! That's when people will eat WAY more than they should or even want. We get so hungry that we tend to shovel it in and don't realize that we were full many, many mouthfulls ago. IMO, when you start thinking you're hungry, drink a glass of water and wait that 10 minutes. Water does fill you up and make you see that it wasn't hunger. Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Connie, My eating probably isn't the best...LOL I tend to NOT eat, something I fight every day, not to go back to old habits. I try to stick with protein and do add in veggies when I remember. Cauli with some sour cream and maybe some cheese, green beans, broc. {these are the ones I eat mostly} Stay away form the yellow ones...corn {I love corn but it's HIGH in carbs and natural sugar}, carrots, same thing, etc. I may have 3 scrambled eggs and add broc. or bacon, or both with cheese melted in. I try to always have chicken cooked up and will warm a piece and have it with ranch. Sometimes I'll melt a piece of cheese on it too. I'll cook up a batch of taco meat and make it like taco guts, with no shell. There is a shell on the market that I've used for years, cuz it's think like I like them. I had no idea they were LC...LOL I'm drawing a blank on the brand tho. Hamburger patties with NO ketchup, since it's full sugar. OK, by me I LOVE cheap yellow mustard. They have LC tortillas now that are not bad at all. So you can wrap a hotdog {ALL BEEF} in that if you don't want it plain. I'll also cut hotdogs in half, fry them in a pan and make a couple soft in the middle eggs for dunking purposes. Turkey from the deli is good. Get lettuce, not iceburg, and use that as your bread. Put mayo on it, cheese, and tomato if you want. I use it as a 'shell' for tacos too. I can make them up, put them in my bag or take on a picnic and I have a tummy snack too. Make fratattas {sp} Those are really good. Put some salsa on your omelets, sour cream too if you want. That's all I can think of right now, but I'm sure there are other things and I'll let you know. I'm doing good to eat 2 kinda meals a day. I just try to make it as high in protein as I can. Usually a high protein selection will be pretty low carb. Also, I don't use the store bought low carb stuff. Most of it isn't! I did buy some of the Doretos chips and they were good. TO GOOD, I ate 1 and a 1/2 bags in a weekend. No more of that! I'll take the cheese chips. KISS Keep it simple sweetie, a good thing to go by. XOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Connie, I understand the night time, bordom eating! That'swhen I get out the cheese and or ronies. They really take care of that need and I am satisfied much faster. Just thought of something else you may want to try. Faux tatoes and caulisaold. O steam cauli till it's kinda mushy and them smash it up like you would for mashed patatoes, that's another yummy! Or cut it up and add the ingre for potato salad. In all honesty, I like it better. Have no full, bloaty, hevy feeling what so ever... XOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Connie, I'm getting ready to leave for the soup kitchen, but when I get home I'll send some recipes. A fratata {still don't know how to spell it...LOL} It's egg and a few other ingre. It's thin and you cook it in the oven. I'll be thinking of some other things tol, I hope...LOL Please be aware that I am NOT trying to force this down your throat, but make a suggestion of how to maybe get you kick started. See y'all this evening. Now don't go getting into trouble while I'm gone! That's mY job...LOL XOXOXO Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Hi Bonnie, I read that book many years ago. She does have some good points...i.e. eating until your satisfied...I've gotten away from that. But I think part of that, for me anyway, was that you never left anything on your plate. I remember being punished as a child for doing that, and I think those old habits die hard....you know? I never had a weight problem until I turned 40. I started gaining on a regular basis, but rather than cut back on anything, I just ignored it. Almost 40 pounds later I'm regretting not listening to my body. I've slowly gone to the " whole food " diet. I like the way I feel. I haven't lost any weight per se, but I do like the energy. I simply don't eat processed foods, with the exception of things like may, mustard, ketchup, salad dressing...things like that. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 But Jenni, what about the COOKIES??????? LOL ~ Connie Re: Naturally Thin Hi Bonnie, I read that book many years ago. She does have some good points...i.e. eating until your satisfied...I've gotten away from that. But I think part of that, for me anyway, was that you never left anything on your plate. I remember being punished as a child for doing that, and I think those old habits die hard....you know? I never had a weight problem until I turned 40. I started gaining on a regular basis, but rather than cut back on anything, I just ignored it. Almost 40 pounds later I'm regretting not listening to my body. I've slowly gone to the " whole food " diet. I like the way I feel. I haven't lost any weight per se, but I do like the energy. I simply don't eat processed foods, with the exception of things like may, mustard, ketchup, salad dressing...things like that. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I forgot about Cookies! Hmmmmmmmm Chocolate Chip, Peanut Butter, Sugar, Macadamia nut, Oatmeal peanut butter, Oreos..........um Connie did I forget any? Now, you have to remember I didn't say " complete food " I said " whole food " tee hee with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 ah yes -- you can't leave the table until your plate is clean -- I well remember those days! and there were always foods that I absolutely couldn't stand (lima beans, cold boiled potatoes, raisins....) -- I spent a LOT of time sitting there after dinner and gagging the food down (my mother wasn't patient, she'd bring the strap out!). I now eat very little in the way of processed foods -- mostly we eat salads (and I make the dressings -- a LOT cheaper! -- but I do buy ranch dressing) and grilled meat -- I guess I eat tuna a lot, and that's processed.... We eat a lot of fresh vegetables, fruits (when my weight isn't bothering me!), eggs -- and cheese (another processed food, I guess). Wish I had eaten this way when I was in my 20s and 30s -- instead of hamburger helpers, ice cream, chocolate bars, cokes, and lots of homemade cookies/cakes/pies -- I even took the Wilton cake decorating courses and used to add a ton of icing to my cakes (but my kids soon got tired of the stuff and would scrape the icing off LOL). Oh well, can't change the past -- but we can do something about now.... Bonnie Re: Naturally Thin Hi Bonnie, I read that book many years ago. She does have some good points...i.e. eating until your satisfied...I've gotten away from that. But I think part of that, for me anyway, was that you never left anything on your plate. I remember being punished as a child for doing that, and I think those old habits die hard....you know? I never had a weight problem until I turned 40. I started gaining on a regular basis, but rather than cut back on anything, I just ignored it. Almost 40 pounds later I'm regretting not listening to my body. I've slowly gone to the " whole food " diet. I like the way I feel. I haven't lost any weight per se, but I do like the energy. I simply don't eat processed foods, with the exception of things like may, mustard, ketchup, salad dressing...things like that. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Ok Jenni, I promise to eat the WHOLE COOKIE> Now how much weight will I lose?? Hugs~Connie Re: Naturally Thin Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I forgot about Cookies! Hmmmmmmmm Chocolate Chip, Peanut Butter, Sugar, Macadamia nut, Oatmeal peanut butter, Oreos..........um Connie did I forget any? Now, you have to remember I didn't say " complete food " I said " whole food " tee hee with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Hi Bonnie, That definitely sounds like Gwen Shamblins, Weigh Down diet, only hers is based on God's help. They are both good diets but I have trouble with #1... :-( Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 sounds good to me -- I haven't eaten a cookie in years (and I even made quite a few to send to my son in Afghanistan -- nary a crumb did I eat!). I used to love grabbing a handful and sitting down to read -- 'twas good! but I've lost my craving for them and I'm afraid to even try a nibble, the cravings might come back.... Bonnie Re: Naturally Thin Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I forgot about Cookies! Hmmmmmmmm Chocolate Chip, Peanut Butter, Sugar, Macadamia nut, Oatmeal peanut butter, Oreos..........um Connie did I forget any? Now, you have to remember I didn't say " complete food " I said " whole food " tee hee with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 You bet we can!! And we will , with each others help!! Big Hug~ Connie Re: Naturally Thin Hi Bonnie, I read that book many years ago. She does have some good points...i.e. eating until your satisfied...I've gotten away from that. But I think part of that, for me anyway, was that you never left anything on your plate. I remember being punished as a child for doing that, and I think those old habits die hard....you know? I never had a weight problem until I turned 40. I started gaining on a regular basis, but rather than cut back on anything, I just ignored it. Almost 40 pounds later I'm regretting not listening to my body. I've slowly gone to the " whole food " diet. I like the way I feel. I haven't lost any weight per se, but I do like the energy. I simply don't eat processed foods, with the exception of things like may, mustard, ketchup, salad dressing...things like that. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I can give up cakes, candy and donuts, but my cookies? Oh dear....... Re: Naturally Thin Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I forgot about Cookies! Hmmmmmmmm Chocolate Chip, Peanut Butter, Sugar, Macadamia nut, Oatmeal peanut butter, Oreos..........um Connie did I forget any? Now, you have to remember I didn't say " complete food " I said " whole food " tee hee with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Hmm I did forget cheeses........I LOVE cheese...could live on it. Fridays we do " carb night " . I'll make homemade pizza, or we'll have nachos. I always pay for it two days later but it is the only way I can get through the week! One of my favorite things in the world is Japanese Pizza. We used to have exchanged students come stay with us and they taught me how to make it. It's made with white flour and cabbage.......you fry it with a pork strip in the center.............when it's done, mayo, sweet and sour sauce...dried shrimp.........oh my...it's heaven on earth! Sigh...some day I'll give all this up! with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Oh Connie...your priceless! with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Ohhhhhhhh I can give all that up but don't take my pasta away!!!!!!!! Or my bread! with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I'd be interested in ideas on how to " know " when you've had enough -- I don't seem to realize my satiation point until later, after I've eaten too much. One thing I'm trying is to eat something before I leave work (such as a hard-boiled egg) -- when I get home I'm so blasted hungry! I've cut out snacking before supper (except for salad materials, I will nibble on lettuce and cucumbers -- can't see how that could hurt) -- this has helped me with the almonds that I used to eat by the handfuls! I also tend to make too much for supper when I'm super-hungry -- for example, last night I was starving, so I made a large steak salad (left-over steak pieces on top of a garden salad) AND some soup AND some cheese -- the salad would have been enough, sort of like the kid whose eyes are bigger than his stomach.... I'm not a fast eater, but I tend to very doggedly clear my plate (even still!) -- and I haven't the time for a long, leisurely dinner....so ideas, anyone???? Bonnie Re: Naturally Thin Hi Bonnie, I read that book many years ago. She does have some good points...i.e. eating until your satisfied...I've gotten away from that. But I think part of that, for me anyway, was that you never left anything on your plate. I remember being punished as a child for doing that, and I think those old habits die hard....you know? I never had a weight problem until I turned 40. I started gaining on a regular basis, but rather than cut back on anything, I just ignored it. Almost 40 pounds later I'm regretting not listening to my body. I've slowly gone to the " whole food " diet. I like the way I feel. I haven't lost any weight per se, but I do like the energy. I simply don't eat processed foods, with the exception of things like may, mustard, ketchup, salad dressing...things like that. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 we just bought some cheese for frying (they were handing out samples at Wal-Mart) -- it's 0g carb, a serving is about 100 calories, and salt is reasonable. You cut thin strips, then fry in light oil (or Pam-spray) -- it gets crispy, sort of like a cheese topping on a casserole. It's realllllllllly GOOD! (I think it's called Wisconsin frying cheese, in the deli section). Bonnie Re: Naturally Thin Hmm I did forget cheeses........I LOVE cheese...could live on it. Fridays we do " carb night " . I'll make homemade pizza, or we'll have nachos. I always pay for it two days later but it is the only way I can get through the week! One of my favorite things in the world is Japanese Pizza. We used to have exchanged students come stay with us and they taught me how to make it. It's made with white flour and cabbage.......you fry it with a pork strip in the center.............when it's done, mayo, sweet and sour sauce...dried shrimp.........oh my...it's heaven on earth! Sigh...some day I'll give all this up! with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Bonnie, Would it be possible for a bit to make meals that you can halve? One thing I've started doing, since I only cook for me now with my dear Rick on the road, is on the weekend I'll make up meals for the week. I divide them in two and usually freeze one. That way at the end of the day I already have something ready and can often zap it. If I don't do it during the weekend...like this past weekend we were out of town. I also am trying to make half the salad I normally would make for me. I'm really bad with the " eyes are bigger than my stomach " believe it or not (looking down at my extra rolls *grimace*). When I can't get it done during the weekend, like this past weekend as we were out of town I've been doing the following. What I have been doing is fixing my plate up just the way I normally would. Then I literally divide what's on my plate in half and put half on another plate, put a piece of press n wrap on it and shove it in the fridge. Now I will say that I don't always eat the other plate, it often gets thrown out, but I figure it is the price I need to pay right now to NOT eat what I used to. I do find that after eating the " half " plate, I'm usually full enough to NOT get up and get the other plate and have to zap it because it's already cold in the fridge. The thing I have found with this method is that you MUST put the second half, wrapped in the fridge, or you will get up out of your chair and grab the plate and eat it LOL At least I do. So once it's all put away..it's sort of out of site, out of mind..you know? with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Naturally Thin Over the weekend I read the book " Naturally Thin " . I think the one I read is the author's first one (published in 1989), the second book hasn't arrived yet. Some comments: 1. " Eating until you're satisfied, but not overstuffed " -- seems like a very good general idea. I have been working to gain that ability (I tend to get very hungry, then eat more than I need to and end up feeling stuffed) -- when I was young (before the age of 30), I would get hungry, have something that I really wanted to eat (like a hamburger), then eat until I reached a certain point -- and not touch another bite. Now, I'm trying to listen better to my body, and stop when I'm full -- apparently I no longer have that " instant messenger " that I once did. 2. " Various stages of eating/weight getting out of whack " -- I never thought about it in this way, but I sure do fit one of the scenarios. I never had a weight problem until at the age of 26 and my first pregnancy. My weight gain during the pregnancy was if anything slightly low -- I didn't even look pregnant for the first 8 months -- but in the ninth month I gained about 20 pounds in one week. The doctor went berserk, you'd think that I had deliberately sat down and non-stop gorged on junk food (I hadn't) -- anyway, he prescribed amphetamines (this was back in 1970) and diuretics. The weight came off, but I " watched " it from that time on..... 3. It sounds to me that the " correct diet " that she's pushing is essentially a low fat/low sugar diet -- sort of standard (however, the real foods, borderline foods, and non-foods lists were torn out of my book copy!) -- with the only twist that you can eat as much as you want. She keeps the cookies, chips, and other junk foods out her house -- and I bet she also keeps the cream, butter, and mayo out too. 4. There were only anecdotal results (hers, her cat, and 5 others) -- no scientific studies or reasons. 5. She's quite negative to Atkins -- she didn't lose any weight in a 2-month (I think) period, only switched fat for muscle -- yet she says that her way of eating might not show positive results for well over a year. Hardly seems like she gave the low-carb a good chance. Over all, I found some interesting insights, but I'm not sold. I'm not changing my way of eating (essentially low/good carb) with some fats (butter, coconut oil, cheese, and half-and-half). I don't see the justification for doing so at this point. I will read the second book when it comes, perhaps there is more information in it.... Looking for comments.... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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