Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Hi Guys, I attended such a course at the North Staffs Royal Infirmary almost two years ago, certification runs out in April of this year, the biggest majority of people on the course were non doctors, however I have now informed that I cannot go back to refresh. regards Neil " Rod Eglin " <rod.eglin@...> 19/02/2004 13:17 Please respond to < > cc: Subject: ATLS/Gerry Hi Gerry Is the Combat Casualty Care course the same sort of thing as BATLS/BARTS(decompressing, chest drains and surgical airways etc) or is it specific to the US military? Cheers Rod Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... ALL list admin messages (subscriptions & unsubscriptions) should be sent to the list owner. Post message: egroups Please visit our website http://www.remotemedics.co.uk Regards The Remote Medics Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 I should point out for those who are outside the US- just about the only things in the ATLS course that are not taught elsewhere are chest drains and venous cutdowns (they might go over fasciotomy/escharotomy, though I'm not sure) Surgical airways, needle decompression, interosseous--these things are paramedic skills in most places, and some states include central lines (internal jug, subclavian, femoral). When I was certified as a medic in Arizona, it was mandatory to attend an airway lab every 2 years, which covered surgical airways, as well as other interesting methods (trans-tracheal retrograde wireguided intubation, anyone?). These courses, though not easy to find, are usually MUCH more open to non-physicians than the ATLS class. If you are interested in getting hands on practice and have a hard time finding a local course, it may pay to look around in the states for courses. Look on the net for " Airway Lab " or " Cardiovascular Lab " . Good training can be found at the annual BTLS on the River, which is a conference in Laughlin Nevada (not far from Las Vegas) which I hear is pretty wild (in both the training sense and the drunken medics sense). This is not an advanced airway lab, but is supposed to be very good. Even though I no longer live in the US, and my family is located in New Mexico, I'll take Arizona as a place for CE and training any day- the flights from the UK on BA are cheap in the winter, and it's big business, with something like 4,000 paramedics in the state who need an outrageous amount of CE to stay certified, so there is always stuff going on. I know of one doctor from the UK who did all her ACLS/PALS classes in Flagstaff. For those interested here is the announcement from www.azcep.org ATTENTION 4th Annual BTLS on the Beach 2004 April 13-15, 2004 Come and enjoy a few days on the beach in Rocky Point, Mexico and earn your BTLS certification at the same time! See attached link for a registration form. BTLS on the River 2004 is coming! Join us September 20-22, 2004 at the Riverside Resort Hotel & Casino. Mark your calendars now for this great trauma assessment course for EMS and ER personnel! Pricing Option I BTLS Provider Course with rooms: $285 AND with Pediatric BTLS, $425 Option II BTLS Provider Course without rooms: $225 AND with Pediatric BTLS, $375 Option III Pediatric BTLS, $175 For more information, please contact at azacep@... or at 602-336-4599. ATLS/Gerry Hi Gerry Is the Combat Casualty Care course the same sort of thing as BATLS/BARTS(decompressing, chest drains and surgical airways etc) or is it specific to the US military? Cheers Rod Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... ALL list admin messages (subscriptions & unsubscriptions) should be sent to the list owner. Post message: egroups Please visit our website http://www.remotemedics.co.uk Regards The Remote Medics Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Combat Casualty Care is based around the NATO Emergency War Surgery handbook and covers the whole spectrum of care of the combat casualty, I have two quals CCC for Nurses and CCC for Independent Duty Medical Corpsmen taken through the US Navy. BATLS is almost ATLS and is for Docs (Officers) and BARTS the equivalent is for soldiers etc I thought you had that one Rod, aren't you a CMT1 I know Millward was, not sure about Warwick but he is into intubation etc so possibly is BATLS. There was a chap in the RN who told me about BATLS/BARTS originally who had already done the course and sent me his notes, three years ago I think on ECO or Remote. By the way please acknowledge that you get this I am missing out somewhere getting only dribs and drabs. Carpenter ATLS/Gerry >Hi Gerry > >Is the Combat Casualty Care course the same sort of thing as >BATLS/BARTS(decompressing, chest drains and surgical airways etc) or is it >specific to the US military? > >Cheers > >Rod > > > >Member Information: > >List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... >Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > >ALL list admin messages (subscriptions & unsubscriptions) should be sent to the list owner. > >Post message: egroups > >Please visit our website http://www.remotemedics.co.uk > >Regards > >The Remote Medics Team > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Re: ATLS/Gerry > " BATLS is almost ATLS " No, , It IS ATLS. Thats why you get the qualification in civvie street from it without doing anything else apart from asking for it. " and is for Docs (Officers) and BARTS the equivalent is > for soldiers etc I thought you had that one Rod " I have that's why I said it in my mail to the list that you must have read to answer it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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