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J. Fris in Obesity Surgery 14,2004 pp. 1165-1170.

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I have misplaced the reference forencouraging patients to follow low fat diet prior to surgery. Could someone send it to me personally? Thanks I apologize for theinconvenience.

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Reboot....it might work.

Dick

At 05:55 PM 10/13/05, you wrote:

The chat window Im in keeps telling me

the " Your IP address is being recorded " . what does this

mean?...Help!

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ok..I'll try that...thanks sugar...

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Reboot....it might work.DickAt 05:55 PM 10/13/05, you wrote:

The chat window Im in keeps telling me the"Your IP address is being recorded". what does this mean?...Help!

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Pat, I have the same message from at the top of the chat page.

I think added it since the chat room lawsuits and is covering their butts.

When you use your computer your IP address is recorded and your computer and owner identified.

I'm in chat now. :)

Deb

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Have

you deleted your temporary internet files lately?

De

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Reboot....it might work.

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Well - first, do you have an official diagnosis for him?

If not, see about getting him evaluated. If he already has a

diagnosis, I would request to the school in writing that you want him

evaluated for special education services to see if he qualifies for an

IEP. In the letter you might also include reasons why you feel he

needs an IEP, but could hold some of those reasons back until you

actually talk to someone there. If you want an IEP, you can just

leave that as your request in the letter. But you can also suggest

seeing if he qualifies for an IEP or a 504 Plan. We have a 504 Plan

for my son (16). He doesn't get any special education services, which

requires the IEP, but the 504 Plan (also for people with disabilities)

has accommodations and modifications he can use.

My son is an A student, but still qualified as his OCD at the time was

making his homework take way too long (if he could even attempt it

some nights), he needed extended time for tests (OCD slowed him down),

slowed his reading speed down, etc. So his " disability " was affecting

his education in a negative way. Actually at OCD's worst, he would

have failed without accommodations. But even when he was better, he

needed the accommodations/mods to be able to keep up with

class/learning, etc., due to reasons above.

Hope this helps a bit!

>

> I need help getting my ocd child an iep

> Thanks

>

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It said the same thing for me and I defragment and delete once a week. Connie Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

Have you deleted your temporary internet files lately?

De

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Reboot....it might work.Dick

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You can get a parent advocate and they can help with this. Kim

In a message dated 10/14/2005 12:40:28 PM Central Standard Time,

arlene.bayne@... writes:

I need help getting my ocd child an iep

Thanks

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You can get a parent advocate and they can help with this. Kim

In a message dated 10/14/2005 12:40:28 PM Central Standard Time,

arlene.bayne@... writes:

I need help getting my ocd child an iep

Thanks

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I'm sorry I haven't taken the time to respond to your last post to me. One

thing has me confused...you are homeschooling, your son does have a 504, but

you are seeking an IEP for him?

Is the 504 unsatisfactory, and if so why? Are you wanting to stop

homeschooling him and send him to school once an IEP is in place?

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: " mummyofben "

>I need help getting my ocd child an iep

> Thanks

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Hi Arlene, I wasn't being critical of how you wrote your post! You did a

fine job. I just wanted to have a clear idea of what was going on before I

gave suggestions/input :-) Bad advice is worse than no advice sometimes

LOL

First things first: I believe you need seek treatment for your child for

OCD. This would be either a certain type of therapy (CBT/ERP--don't waste

your time with any other types of therapy), or medication (SSRI, such as

Prozac or Zoloft etc.), or both. Medication helped quite a bit but the

therapy was what made the difference between " better " and " near cured " for

my child, now 11. For therapy, you need a behavior therapist who is

experienced in ERP for children with OCD. For evaluation, medication etc.

you'll need a child psychiatrist. The U of W may be your best source for

both, or referrals to good practitioners in your area. Getting your son's

OCD, anxiety, and aggression under control will be a big part of his being

able to return to school. My bet is the aggression is related to his

anxiety and will dissipate as his OCD is brought under good control.

The school accommodation issues are separate. You don't need a doctor's

note or referral to request that your child be evaluated for an IEP, though

a dx on a prescription form or letterhead from the doctor can lend

credibility. You just call the school in your district and explain your

situation, your son's various diagnoses, and ask that he be evaluated toward

qualification for an IEP, and follow this up with a letter stating the same.

The school by law must respond/take action within a certain amount of time.

The evaluations are usually done by the school district's psychologist and

consist of interviews and a number of paper and pencil tests to highlight

difficulties your son may be having with anxiety, attention, and etc. Some

parents pay to have these evaluations done privately. In any case, this

whole process can take weeks to months, so since your son already has a 504

in place I suggest you talk with the counselor at the school about setting

up a meeting to insert accommodations into this existing plan in order to

facilitate him returning to school more quickly.

As I read your post, your son has giftedness, OCD, and visual processing

problems. It's not unusual at all for kids to have a number of brain-based

issues. Any or all of these will most likely qualify him for an IEP under

" other health impaired " designation.

Medication and/or therapy can help your son with his angry violent outbursts

when others break rules or cheat. Actually these are common OCD issues and

many of us here have dealt with these in our children. You and he may be

very surprised at how effective medication and/or therapy is for OCD and how

quickly this seemingly huge problem may go away.

If I've gone off the rails write again and let me know. I wish you the very

best of luck in finding your way through this confusing and overwhelming

time. It's plain you are a very good Mom and I know you will find the right

path for your son.

Take care,

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: " Arlene Bayne " <arlene.bayne@...>

> when at U of W they diagnosed him with developmental neuralgic disorder

> characterized by slow process and visual perceptual differences.

> They said I should request a 504 plan

> Before testing they were sure that he was gifted

> all they could do is give recommendations

>

> two weeks later he was diagnosed with ocd by a nurse prac in pych

> he had been hiding his ocd when it came out it came out big

> which in my mind made the u of w testing inaccurate

>

> im trying to find out the best educational plan for him and its driving me

> up the wall

> I don't have good choices were schools are concerned

> He can't wont sleep. Writes Really slow sometimes taking half to a full

> hour

> per page he needs to be worked with on a person to person basis or his

> brain

> just stops .He can read at 7th grade level but doesnt want to as muh now

> The thing i am most worried about is that he gets violent with people who

> cheat or break the rules .

> Ben wants to go back to school but is also scared of hurting people. I t

> happens so fast he cant control it so i control

> his environment

>

> I hope i wrote this better than last time

>

> I have been a mom for 21 years and this is the hardest thing ive have had

> to

> go through i love him so much and dont want to make the wrong decisions

> about his life.

>

> arlene bayne wa st

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Hi Arlene, I wasn't being critical of how you wrote your post! You did a

fine job. I just wanted to have a clear idea of what was going on before I

gave suggestions/input :-) Bad advice is worse than no advice sometimes

LOL

First things first: I believe you need seek treatment for your child for

OCD. This would be either a certain type of therapy (CBT/ERP--don't waste

your time with any other types of therapy), or medication (SSRI, such as

Prozac or Zoloft etc.), or both. Medication helped quite a bit but the

therapy was what made the difference between " better " and " near cured " for

my child, now 11. For therapy, you need a behavior therapist who is

experienced in ERP for children with OCD. For evaluation, medication etc.

you'll need a child psychiatrist. The U of W may be your best source for

both, or referrals to good practitioners in your area. Getting your son's

OCD, anxiety, and aggression under control will be a big part of his being

able to return to school. My bet is the aggression is related to his

anxiety and will dissipate as his OCD is brought under good control.

The school accommodation issues are separate. You don't need a doctor's

note or referral to request that your child be evaluated for an IEP, though

a dx on a prescription form or letterhead from the doctor can lend

credibility. You just call the school in your district and explain your

situation, your son's various diagnoses, and ask that he be evaluated toward

qualification for an IEP, and follow this up with a letter stating the same.

The school by law must respond/take action within a certain amount of time.

The evaluations are usually done by the school district's psychologist and

consist of interviews and a number of paper and pencil tests to highlight

difficulties your son may be having with anxiety, attention, and etc. Some

parents pay to have these evaluations done privately. In any case, this

whole process can take weeks to months, so since your son already has a 504

in place I suggest you talk with the counselor at the school about setting

up a meeting to insert accommodations into this existing plan in order to

facilitate him returning to school more quickly.

As I read your post, your son has giftedness, OCD, and visual processing

problems. It's not unusual at all for kids to have a number of brain-based

issues. Any or all of these will most likely qualify him for an IEP under

" other health impaired " designation.

Medication and/or therapy can help your son with his angry violent outbursts

when others break rules or cheat. Actually these are common OCD issues and

many of us here have dealt with these in our children. You and he may be

very surprised at how effective medication and/or therapy is for OCD and how

quickly this seemingly huge problem may go away.

If I've gone off the rails write again and let me know. I wish you the very

best of luck in finding your way through this confusing and overwhelming

time. It's plain you are a very good Mom and I know you will find the right

path for your son.

Take care,

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: " Arlene Bayne " <arlene.bayne@...>

> when at U of W they diagnosed him with developmental neuralgic disorder

> characterized by slow process and visual perceptual differences.

> They said I should request a 504 plan

> Before testing they were sure that he was gifted

> all they could do is give recommendations

>

> two weeks later he was diagnosed with ocd by a nurse prac in pych

> he had been hiding his ocd when it came out it came out big

> which in my mind made the u of w testing inaccurate

>

> im trying to find out the best educational plan for him and its driving me

> up the wall

> I don't have good choices were schools are concerned

> He can't wont sleep. Writes Really slow sometimes taking half to a full

> hour

> per page he needs to be worked with on a person to person basis or his

> brain

> just stops .He can read at 7th grade level but doesnt want to as muh now

> The thing i am most worried about is that he gets violent with people who

> cheat or break the rules .

> Ben wants to go back to school but is also scared of hurting people. I t

> happens so fast he cant control it so i control

> his environment

>

> I hope i wrote this better than last time

>

> I have been a mom for 21 years and this is the hardest thing ive have had

> to

> go through i love him so much and dont want to make the wrong decisions

> about his life.

>

> arlene bayne wa st

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Arlene, I meant to say in my other post, that *you* don't have to do ERP

therapy with your son. The therapist will do this, plus give you tips on

supportive ways to respond to his symptoms, help him with his therapy

" homework " exposures, etc.

Kathy R. in Indiana

Re: Re: help

> Hi Arlene, I wasn't being critical of how you wrote your post! You did a

> fine job. I just wanted to have a clear idea of what was going on before

> I

> gave suggestions/input :-) Bad advice is worse than no advice sometimes

> LOL

>

> First things first: I believe you need seek treatment for your child for

> OCD. This would be either a certain type of therapy (CBT/ERP--don't waste

> your time with any other types of therapy), or medication (SSRI, such as

> Prozac or Zoloft etc.), or both. Medication helped quite a bit but the

> therapy was what made the difference between " better " and " near cured " for

> my child, now 11. For therapy, you need a behavior therapist who is

> experienced in ERP for children with OCD. For evaluation, medication etc.

> you'll need a child psychiatrist. The U of W may be your best source for

> both, or referrals to good practitioners in your area. Getting your son's

> OCD, anxiety, and aggression under control will be a big part of his being

> able to return to school. My bet is the aggression is related to his

> anxiety and will dissipate as his OCD is brought under good control.

>

> The school accommodation issues are separate. You don't need a doctor's

> note or referral to request that your child be evaluated for an IEP,

> though

> a dx on a prescription form or letterhead from the doctor can lend

> credibility. You just call the school in your district and explain your

> situation, your son's various diagnoses, and ask that he be evaluated

> toward

> qualification for an IEP, and follow this up with a letter stating the

> same.

> The school by law must respond/take action within a certain amount of

> time.

> The evaluations are usually done by the school district's psychologist and

> consist of interviews and a number of paper and pencil tests to highlight

> difficulties your son may be having with anxiety, attention, and etc.

> Some

> parents pay to have these evaluations done privately. In any case, this

> whole process can take weeks to months, so since your son already has a

> 504

> in place I suggest you talk with the counselor at the school about setting

> up a meeting to insert accommodations into this existing plan in order to

> facilitate him returning to school more quickly.

>

> As I read your post, your son has giftedness, OCD, and visual processing

> problems. It's not unusual at all for kids to have a number of

> brain-based

> issues. Any or all of these will most likely qualify him for an IEP under

> " other health impaired " designation.

>

> Medication and/or therapy can help your son with his angry violent

> outbursts

> when others break rules or cheat. Actually these are common OCD issues

> and

> many of us here have dealt with these in our children. You and he may be

> very surprised at how effective medication and/or therapy is for OCD and

> how

> quickly this seemingly huge problem may go away.

>

> If I've gone off the rails write again and let me know. I wish you the

> very

> best of luck in finding your way through this confusing and overwhelming

> time. It's plain you are a very good Mom and I know you will find the

> right

> path for your son.

>

> Take care,

> Kathy R. in Indiana

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Arlene Bayne " <arlene.bayne@...>

>> when at U of W they diagnosed him with developmental neuralgic disorder

>> characterized by slow process and visual perceptual differences.

>> They said I should request a 504 plan

>> Before testing they were sure that he was gifted

>> all they could do is give recommendations

>>

>> two weeks later he was diagnosed with ocd by a nurse prac in pych

>> he had been hiding his ocd when it came out it came out big

>> which in my mind made the u of w testing inaccurate

>>

>> im trying to find out the best educational plan for him and its driving

>> me

>> up the wall

>> I don't have good choices were schools are concerned

>> He can't wont sleep. Writes Really slow sometimes taking half to a full

>> hour

>> per page he needs to be worked with on a person to person basis or his

>> brain

>> just stops .He can read at 7th grade level but doesnt want to as muh now

>> The thing i am most worried about is that he gets violent with people who

>> cheat or break the rules .

>> Ben wants to go back to school but is also scared of hurting people. I t

>> happens so fast he cant control it so i control

>> his environment

>>

>> I hope i wrote this better than last time

>>

>> I have been a mom for 21 years and this is the hardest thing ive have had

>> to

>> go through i love him so much and dont want to make the wrong decisions

>> about his life.

>>

>> arlene bayne wa st

>

>

>

>

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Thank you! I have a hard time asking for help. I also have a hard time

finding a where to start. You have help more in one email than anyone

before. hope things are well with you and yours.

Arlene Bayne Everett Wa

On 10/14/05, Kathy <kathylr@...> wrote:

>

> Arlene, I meant to say in my other post, that *you* don't have to do ERP

> therapy with your son. The therapist will do this, plus give you tips on

> supportive ways to respond to his symptoms, help him with his therapy

> " homework " exposures, etc.

>

> Kathy R. in Indiana

>

> Re: Re: help

>

>

> > Hi Arlene, I wasn't being critical of how you wrote your post! You did a

> > fine job. I just wanted to have a clear idea of what was going on before

>

> > I

> > gave suggestions/input :-) Bad advice is worse than no advice sometimes

> > LOL

> >

> > First things first: I believe you need seek treatment for your child for

> > OCD. This would be either a certain type of therapy (CBT/ERP--don't

> waste

> > your time with any other types of therapy), or medication (SSRI, such as

> > Prozac or Zoloft etc.), or both. Medication helped quite a bit but the

> > therapy was what made the difference between " better " and " near cured "

> for

> > my child, now 11. For therapy, you need a behavior therapist who is

> > experienced in ERP for children with OCD. For evaluation, medication

> etc.

> > you'll need a child psychiatrist. The U of W may be your best source for

> > both, or referrals to good practitioners in your area. Getting your

> son's

> > OCD, anxiety, and aggression under control will be a big part of his

> being

> > able to return to school. My bet is the aggression is related to his

> > anxiety and will dissipate as his OCD is brought under good control.

> >

> > The school accommodation issues are separate. You don't need a doctor's

> > note or referral to request that your child be evaluated for an IEP,

> > though

> > a dx on a prescription form or letterhead from the doctor can lend

> > credibility. You just call the school in your district and explain your

> > situation, your son's various diagnoses, and ask that he be evaluated

> > toward

> > qualification for an IEP, and follow this up with a letter stating the

> > same.

> > The school by law must respond/take action within a certain amount of

> > time.

> > The evaluations are usually done by the school district's psychologist

> and

> > consist of interviews and a number of paper and pencil tests to

> highlight

> > difficulties your son may be having with anxiety, attention, and etc.

> > Some

> > parents pay to have these evaluations done privately. In any case, this

> > whole process can take weeks to months, so since your son already has a

> > 504

> > in place I suggest you talk with the counselor at the school about

> setting

> > up a meeting to insert accommodations into this existing plan in order

> to

> > facilitate him returning to school more quickly.

> >

> > As I read your post, your son has giftedness, OCD, and visual processing

> > problems. It's not unusual at all for kids to have a number of

> > brain-based

> > issues. Any or all of these will most likely qualify him for an IEP

> under

> > " other health impaired " designation.

> >

> > Medication and/or therapy can help your son with his angry violent

> > outbursts

> > when others break rules or cheat. Actually these are common OCD issues

> > and

> > many of us here have dealt with these in our children. You and he may be

> > very surprised at how effective medication and/or therapy is for OCD and

>

> > how

> > quickly this seemingly huge problem may go away.

> >

> > If I've gone off the rails write again and let me know. I wish you the

> > very

> > best of luck in finding your way through this confusing and overwhelming

> > time. It's plain you are a very good Mom and I know you will find the

> > right

> > path for your son.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Kathy R. in Indiana

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Arlene Bayne " <arlene.bayne@...>

> >> when at U of W they diagnosed him with developmental neuralgic disorder

> >> characterized by slow process and visual perceptual differences.

> >> They said I should request a 504 plan

> >> Before testing they were sure that he was gifted

> >> all they could do is give recommendations

> >>

> >> two weeks later he was diagnosed with ocd by a nurse prac in pych

> >> he had been hiding his ocd when it came out it came out big

> >> which in my mind made the u of w testing inaccurate

> >>

> >> im trying to find out the best educational plan for him and its driving

>

> >> me

> >> up the wall

> >> I don't have good choices were schools are concerned

> >> He can't wont sleep. Writes Really slow sometimes taking half to a full

> >> hour

> >> per page he needs to be worked with on a person to person basis or his

> >> brain

> >> just stops .He can read at 7th grade level but doesnt want to as muh

> now

> >> The thing i am most worried about is that he gets violent with people

> who

> >> cheat or break the rules .

> >> Ben wants to go back to school but is also scared of hurting people. I

> t

> >> happens so fast he cant control it so i control

> >> his environment

> >>

> >> I hope i wrote this better than last time

> >>

> >> I have been a mom for 21 years and this is the hardest thing ive have

> had

> >> to

> >> go through i love him so much and dont want to make the wrong decisions

> >> about his life.

> >>

> >> arlene bayne wa st

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed

> at:

> > / .

> > Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D., Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.(

> > http://www.worrywisekids.org ), Dan Geller, M.D.,Aureen Pinto Wagner,

> > Ph.D., ( http://www.lighthouse-press.com ). Our list moderators are

> > Birkhan, Castle, Fowler, Kathy Hammes, Joye,

> Kathy

> > Mac, Gail Pesses, and Kathy . Subscription issues or

> > suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at

> > louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... ,

> > louisharkins@... .

> >

> >

> >

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Thank you! I have a hard time asking for help. I also have a hard time

finding a where to start. You have help more in one email than anyone

before. hope things are well with you and yours.

Arlene Bayne Everett Wa

On 10/14/05, Kathy <kathylr@...> wrote:

>

> Arlene, I meant to say in my other post, that *you* don't have to do ERP

> therapy with your son. The therapist will do this, plus give you tips on

> supportive ways to respond to his symptoms, help him with his therapy

> " homework " exposures, etc.

>

> Kathy R. in Indiana

>

> Re: Re: help

>

>

> > Hi Arlene, I wasn't being critical of how you wrote your post! You did a

> > fine job. I just wanted to have a clear idea of what was going on before

>

> > I

> > gave suggestions/input :-) Bad advice is worse than no advice sometimes

> > LOL

> >

> > First things first: I believe you need seek treatment for your child for

> > OCD. This would be either a certain type of therapy (CBT/ERP--don't

> waste

> > your time with any other types of therapy), or medication (SSRI, such as

> > Prozac or Zoloft etc.), or both. Medication helped quite a bit but the

> > therapy was what made the difference between " better " and " near cured "

> for

> > my child, now 11. For therapy, you need a behavior therapist who is

> > experienced in ERP for children with OCD. For evaluation, medication

> etc.

> > you'll need a child psychiatrist. The U of W may be your best source for

> > both, or referrals to good practitioners in your area. Getting your

> son's

> > OCD, anxiety, and aggression under control will be a big part of his

> being

> > able to return to school. My bet is the aggression is related to his

> > anxiety and will dissipate as his OCD is brought under good control.

> >

> > The school accommodation issues are separate. You don't need a doctor's

> > note or referral to request that your child be evaluated for an IEP,

> > though

> > a dx on a prescription form or letterhead from the doctor can lend

> > credibility. You just call the school in your district and explain your

> > situation, your son's various diagnoses, and ask that he be evaluated

> > toward

> > qualification for an IEP, and follow this up with a letter stating the

> > same.

> > The school by law must respond/take action within a certain amount of

> > time.

> > The evaluations are usually done by the school district's psychologist

> and

> > consist of interviews and a number of paper and pencil tests to

> highlight

> > difficulties your son may be having with anxiety, attention, and etc.

> > Some

> > parents pay to have these evaluations done privately. In any case, this

> > whole process can take weeks to months, so since your son already has a

> > 504

> > in place I suggest you talk with the counselor at the school about

> setting

> > up a meeting to insert accommodations into this existing plan in order

> to

> > facilitate him returning to school more quickly.

> >

> > As I read your post, your son has giftedness, OCD, and visual processing

> > problems. It's not unusual at all for kids to have a number of

> > brain-based

> > issues. Any or all of these will most likely qualify him for an IEP

> under

> > " other health impaired " designation.

> >

> > Medication and/or therapy can help your son with his angry violent

> > outbursts

> > when others break rules or cheat. Actually these are common OCD issues

> > and

> > many of us here have dealt with these in our children. You and he may be

> > very surprised at how effective medication and/or therapy is for OCD and

>

> > how

> > quickly this seemingly huge problem may go away.

> >

> > If I've gone off the rails write again and let me know. I wish you the

> > very

> > best of luck in finding your way through this confusing and overwhelming

> > time. It's plain you are a very good Mom and I know you will find the

> > right

> > path for your son.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Kathy R. in Indiana

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Arlene Bayne " <arlene.bayne@...>

> >> when at U of W they diagnosed him with developmental neuralgic disorder

> >> characterized by slow process and visual perceptual differences.

> >> They said I should request a 504 plan

> >> Before testing they were sure that he was gifted

> >> all they could do is give recommendations

> >>

> >> two weeks later he was diagnosed with ocd by a nurse prac in pych

> >> he had been hiding his ocd when it came out it came out big

> >> which in my mind made the u of w testing inaccurate

> >>

> >> im trying to find out the best educational plan for him and its driving

>

> >> me

> >> up the wall

> >> I don't have good choices were schools are concerned

> >> He can't wont sleep. Writes Really slow sometimes taking half to a full

> >> hour

> >> per page he needs to be worked with on a person to person basis or his

> >> brain

> >> just stops .He can read at 7th grade level but doesnt want to as muh

> now

> >> The thing i am most worried about is that he gets violent with people

> who

> >> cheat or break the rules .

> >> Ben wants to go back to school but is also scared of hurting people. I

> t

> >> happens so fast he cant control it so i control

> >> his environment

> >>

> >> I hope i wrote this better than last time

> >>

> >> I have been a mom for 21 years and this is the hardest thing ive have

> had

> >> to

> >> go through i love him so much and dont want to make the wrong decisions

> >> about his life.

> >>

> >> arlene bayne wa st

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I'm glad to know, Arlene. Let us know how things progress...

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: " Arlene Bayne "

> Thank you! I have a hard time asking for help. I also have a hard time

> finding a where to start. You have help more in one email than anyone

> before. hope things are well with you and yours.

> Arlene Bayne Everett Wa

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I'm glad to know, Arlene. Let us know how things progress...

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: " Arlene Bayne "

> Thank you! I have a hard time asking for help. I also have a hard time

> finding a where to start. You have help more in one email than anyone

> before. hope things are well with you and yours.

> Arlene Bayne Everett Wa

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Have you tried a tar based shampoo?

My husband has psorisis and uses one with 5% tar. He also buys an ointment

that is tar based that he puts on skin areas and rubs into his scalp.

It makes a big difference when he uses it.

My daughter also has dandruff issues and being AA it really shows so she

uses the tar based shampoo..and lots of conditioner. LOL.

Hope this helps.

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ask your pediatrician. He/she might be able to prescribe a medicated shampoo.

Other than that..Neutragena makes aline of products for problem scalp

_http://www.neutrogena.com/haircare/ProductsLine_7_11_2.asp_

(http://www.neutrogena.com/haircare/ProductsLine_7_11_2.asp)

- Becky

In a message dated 10/18/2005 11:15:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,

fourjsnme@... writes:

Was just wondering if anyone had any ideas for really dry scalp, and if so

would love some info... My son ph brushed his hair this morning then when

he was getting out of the van at school, and putting his coat his head is

covered in flakes... His scalp is dry and flakes all the time, he also does

not like his head touched a lot of the time.. He is just now starting to let

me wash it.. Thanks in advance..

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I have something called Cholesterol (yep, just like the bad stuff) but it's a

scalp and hair conditioner. he'll have to put it on and put a shower cap on

though for a few minutes. You can get it at Wal-Mart

Di

HELP

Was just wondering if anyone had any ideas for really dry scalp, and if so

would love some info... My son ph brushed his hair this morning then when

he was getting out of the van at school, and putting his coat his head is

covered in flakes... His scalp is dry and flakes all the time, he also does

not like his head touched a lot of the time.. He is just now starting to let me

wash it.. Thanks in advance..

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OMG! I didn't know they still made this stuff. When I was a teen I went to

visit my dad in Florida. His wife (at the time :) ) was a hair stylist. I

had long hair and she said that this cholesterol was good to put on for the

day at the beach. So, She greased me up and off we went to the beach for the

day. Well, let me tell you that once this stuff is baked in-it doesn't come

out!! Lol It took me days of shampooing to get it out! Lol Thanks for the

memory and laugh to go along!

Re: HELP

I have something called Cholesterol (yep, just like the bad stuff) but it's

a scalp and hair conditioner. he'll have to put it on and put a shower cap

on though for a few minutes. You can get it at Wal-Mart

Di

HELP

Was just wondering if anyone had any ideas for really dry scalp, and if so

would love some info... My son ph brushed his hair this morning then

when he was getting out of the van at school, and putting his coat his head

is covered in flakes... His scalp is dry and flakes all the time, he also

does not like his head touched a lot of the time.. He is just now starting

to let me wash it.. Thanks in advance..

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We use Head & Shoulders " Dry Scalp " shampoo on Caty's. I'm not sure if you would

consider her really dry scalp, but it helps her flakes. I can remember when I

was a teenager using a tar smelling shampoo and it worked, but unfortunately I

can't remember the name of it.

HELP

Was just wondering if anyone had any ideas for really dry scalp, and if so

would love some info... My son ph brushed his hair this morning then when

he was getting out of the van at school, and putting his coat his head is

covered in flakes... His scalp is dry and flakes all the time, he also does

not like his head touched a lot of the time.. He is just now starting to let me

wash it.. Thanks in advance..

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I have used the Cholesterol stuff, and it is good. My stylist gives me some

every now and then, and I try to leave it on overnight. I have had good

results.

Sharon H.

Mom to , (14, DS) and , (10)

South Carolina

HELP

Was just wondering if anyone had any ideas for really dry scalp, and if so

would love some info... My son ph brushed his hair this morning then when

he was getting out of the van at school, and putting his coat his head is

covered in flakes... His scalp is dry and flakes all the time, he also does

not like his head touched a lot of the time.. He is just now starting to let me

wash it.. Thanks in advance..

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