New member introduction

[Guest guest]

Hi Artie! I'm Judi, mom to Sam & , 4 year old

identical twins. It's always nice to have parents of

older kids in the group because we learn a lot from

your experiences. Glad you found us and I look

forward to hearing more about your family.

Judi

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[Guest guest]

Welcome Aboard Artie!! It's good to have you! I look forward to hearing

more about your twins. So, Branden has DS?? And Benjamen does not have DS?

I'm Sara... the list owner. 21year old medical (maybe changing to law)

student at the University at Buffalo... in Buffalo NY. I have no kids yet..

just a wonderful fiance, Aref, who is a PhD student here as well. If you

have any tech questions concerning the list... shoot them on over to me!

Cheers!

Sara

--On Monday, June 18, 2001, 4:09 PM +0000 ayersfamily@... wrote:

> I have just joined this group and would like to introduce myself.

> I am Artie, I am married and have 3 beautiful, God sent, children.

> Benjamen and Braden are 10 years old and is 7 years old.

> Braden loves to run, walk, skip, jump, swing, swim and ride his

> bike. He is a happy and healthy 10 year boy.

>

> I have joined this group to communicate with other parents that are

> in the same unique situation that I am. I hope to make friends, learn

> much and support when I can.

>

> I look forward to my involvement with this group.

> Artie

>

>

> http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Artie,

Welcome to our Multiples Group. I am Marcia. My husband, Rand and I, have

twins Sara, who has Down Syndrome and , who doesn't. They are six.

We also have a son, Lucas, who is 10.

We live in Sisters, Oregon.

I look forward to hearing more about you and your family--you've joined a

very supportive group, who understands your situation and also looks forward

to the wisdom and knowledge you have acquired in your journey with your boys.

Marcia

[Guest guest]

This is a great group. Welcome. Our family includes Amy 13, Kelsey 11, Davey (DS) 16 months, and Will 16 months. We have a happy crazy home near Reno, NV. Looking forward to hearing more about your family. New Member Introduction I have just joined this group and would like to introduce myself.I am Artie, I am married and have 3 beautiful, God sent, children.Benjamen and Braden are 10 years old and is 7 years old.Braden loves to run, walk, skip, jump, swing, swim and ride hisbike. He is a happy and healthy 10 year boy.I have joined this group to communicate with other parents that arein the same unique situation that I am. I hope to make friends, learnmuch and support when I can.I look forward to my involvement with this group.Artiehttp://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

[Guest guest]

Hi Artie and welcome to the list! You couldn't have found a more caring and

helpful group!

I'm Carolyn and we live in Auckland New Zealand (just to the right of

Australia!). Tony and I have 4 children and our youngest 2 girls both have

Ds. Emma is 5 and a real dynamo and Nicki is 4 and also a real dynamo!

Just a coincidence that we have 2 with Ds and they are our biological kids.

Nice to have you here.

Carolyn

Mum to on 9, 7, Emma (Ds) 5 and Nicki (Ds) 4

http://www.geocities.com/nz_mom/sykesfamily.html

[Guest guest]

Penny: My 6 year old son did this same thing.....it was hard to explain this

behavior...........he would get wound up and start just being silly and

wouldn't quit........it was very annoying. The last six months or so I

noticed a decrease in this behavior, and I am not sure that I did a whole lot

about it .........just ignored him when he got that way, and just kept

redirecting him to something else......but I sure know, when we did homework

he would say... " Isnt that funny " ...and I would have a hard time getting his

attention back.....

Debbie in Pa who also just loves this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nospam@... wrote:

> Hi All.

>

> I am new here and glad I found this list.

>

> I am going to read all the past postings and hopefully we can all

> share experiences.

>

> My daughter is 6 1/2 years old and in full-inclusion 1st grade.

> She does NOT have a 1:1 aide, although she SHOULD and we are still

> working thru the bueracracy on this.

>

> One of the behaviors that is becoming a problem is

> uncontrolled " silliness " ... I know that sounds, well, silly, but I

> fear it is going to cost her a chance at social acceptance.

>

> She has a dx of Autism, and is very high-functioning.

>

> The latest issue is calling a twin by his brother's name. At first

> this was cute, but now the boy is extremely annoyed with this. How

> do I make her understand? She's not making fun of him, of course,

> she just thinks it's so funny that they look absolutely identical.

>

> She doesn't understand that she is annoying him and hurting his

> feelings.

>

> What would you all do?

>

> Thanks in advance...and thanks for the list!

>

> Penny

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I'm new to the list. My son is 9 years old and a mixed diagnosis of

Aspergers and HFA. His behaviors are so bad, we've put him in a school for

Emotionally Impaired kids. I know the " experts " usually tell you not to put

A.I. in with E.I. but so far they are helping Ben. I'll post more later. I

look forward to talking to other parents who have extremely difficult

children in the Autism Spectrum.

Sincerely,

-Eleanor

[Guest guest]

Penny:

Have you ever used Social Stories? This would be a perfect situation to teach your daughter not only not to call the twin his brother's name, but to teach her social understanding behind why she shouldn't do it. They work really well for us. My daughter, 9 1/2, is also HFA.

Missy

-----Original Message-----From: nospam@... [mailto:nospam@...]Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 7:09 PMautism Subject: [autism] New member introductionHi All.I am new here and glad I found this list.I am going to read all the past postings and hopefully we can all share experiences.My daughter is 6 1/2 years old and in full-inclusion 1st grade.She does NOT have a 1:1 aide, although she SHOULD and we are still working thru the bueracracy on this.One of the behaviors that is becoming a problem is uncontrolled "silliness"... I know that sounds, well, silly, but I fear it is going to cost her a chance at social acceptance.She has a dx of Autism, and is very high-functioning. The latest issue is calling a twin by his brother's name. At first this was cute, but now the boy is extremely annoyed with this. How do I make her understand? She's not making fun of him, of course, she just thinks it's so funny that they look absolutely identical. She doesn't understand that she is annoying him and hurting his feelings. What would you all do?Thanks in advance...and thanks for the list!Penny

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My name is and I am new to this group. My son, Ian was diagnosed

with idiopathic infantile scoliosis at the age of 7 months. He is a twin

and his brother is fine. He got his first cast on when he was 17 months

old. He had a total of 3 casts. He now is wearing a TLSO brace for 22

hours per day. We are getting our treatment at the University of Michigan

Hospital.

Ian's curve is a left thoracic curve, which initially mesaured 38 degrees.

By the time we got his first cast on, he was in the upper 50's. AFter his

last cast, he measured 22 degrees. Two weeks later in his brace, he

measured 40 degrees again. We go back and see our Dr. in June for another

Xray to see what the next step is. Our dr. mentioned that we may have to

put him back in a cast-just in time for summer!

I'm hoping by joining this group I can learn as much as possible about this

condition and how we can further assist our son in his treatment. I'm

looking for anyone who might have a similar situation and can help provide

any information. Looking for a pen pal to share info. Thanks -

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My name is Bridgette Welcome to the group I have a little girl that will be

3 in July her name is I don't know if you had a chance to go on to

the pictures on the group her pic is on thier and it showa her in her cast

and some x-rays before and after she has been doing the casting.Why did your

sons doc stop the casting and go back to the brace when he was getting good

results with casting. If I were you I would see if you can get in sooner to

see him and ask for him to do the cast again. Hyatt has a video you

can buy or she will let you borrow it it is a wounder video on plaster

casting.Just post a message to and she will be in touch with you

about the video and any questions you might have she is a woulderful person

who cares about all of our little Angels and to get them the best treatment.

just got her 3rd cast on March 31st and she is having wounderful

results. How old is your son now? I will keep him in our prayers If you need

anymore information on what has been through and the treatment she is

getting now just let me know.

Bridgette,(s mommy)

Re: New Member Introduction

> Hi,

>

> My name is and I am new to this group. My son, Ian was diagnosed

> with idiopathic infantile scoliosis at the age of 7 months. He is a twin

> and his brother is fine. He got his first cast on when he was 17 months

> old. He had a total of 3 casts. He now is wearing a TLSO brace for 22

> hours per day. We are getting our treatment at the University of Michigan

> Hospital.

>

> Ian's curve is a left thoracic curve, which initially mesaured 38 degrees.

> By the time we got his first cast on, he was in the upper 50's. AFter his

> last cast, he measured 22 degrees. Two weeks later in his brace, he

> measured 40 degrees again. We go back and see our Dr. in June for another

> Xray to see what the next step is. Our dr. mentioned that we may have to

> put him back in a cast-just in time for summer!

>

> I'm hoping by joining this group I can learn as much as possible about

this

> condition and how we can further assist our son in his treatment. I'm

> looking for anyone who might have a similar situation and can help provide

> any information. Looking for a pen pal to share info. Thanks -

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Okay, super small world here... I'm in Macedon too. :)

My husband and I moved here from Seattle about a year and a half

ago..

Kirstin

> Hi, everyone. I am new to the group. (I actually found out about

you

> guys from Katy whom I met through another group.) I've been making

CP

> soap for three years, only using EOs, but I'm wanting to try some

FOs

> now, too. I live in Macedon, outside the Rochester area. I'm

excited

> to find an active group of local soapers

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/21/2004 9:46:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

juliak@... writes:

I've been making CP

soap for three years, only using EOs, but I'm wanting to try some FOs

now, too. I live in Macedon, outside the Rochester area. I'm excited

to find an active group of local soapers!!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi ,

Welcome! I'm new here too, but everyone's been very nice. :-)

I also homeschool, only I have 6 kids, 3 of whom have graduated. I just

started this winter making cp/hp, and have been making toiletries for maybe 4

years. It's great fun!

Beth

[Guest guest]

Welcome to our group. I just read that there's another member in the

same town as you. What a small world. I live about 13 miles east of

Utica in a small town called Ilion. I only do M & P and other toiletries.

I have a 28 yr old daughter who gave birth to our first grandchild 8

months ago and I also have a soon-to-be 16 yr old daughter.

I hope you enjoy our little group.

new member introduction

Hi, everyone. I am new to the group. (I actually found out about you

guys from Katy whom I met through another group.) I've been making CP

soap for three years, only using EOs, but I'm wanting to try some FOs

now, too. I live in Macedon, outside the Rochester area. I'm excited

to find an active group of local soapers!!!!! So far I've only been

soaping for ourselves and mostly gifts, but I do have some friends and

friends of friends who have bought soaps on occasion. I'm thinking

about taking the jump to expand on the " business " side, but I'm still

looking into paperwork, etc. that needs to be done. On a personal

note, I am mostly a stay-at-home mom to a high energy 6 year old boy,

and we homeschool. I'm very interested in alternative healing and

Waldorf education, I like to knit and sew, and I want to think that I

will have a decent garden this year, but we'll have to see about that.

Oh, and I'm trying to get back onto my raw fruits & veggies diet. I

think that about sums me up! :-)

Would someone please send me information about the gathering.

Thanks so much! I am excited to be here!!

K. (I take it there are several s here, but are there any

other s?)

" The quality of our thoughts is bordered on all sides by our facility

with language. " -J. Straczynski

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group . Hope you enjoy it! I'm Shaye and I live north

of you (in Ontario).

The gathering is on July 10 and it will be near Albany (south I think).

Stay tuned for more info.

Welcome!

Shaye

new member introduction

Hi, everyone. I am new to the group. (I actually found out about you

guys from Katy whom I met through another group.) I've been making CP

soap for three years, only using EOs, but I'm wanting to try some FOs

now, too. I live in Macedon, outside the Rochester area. I'm excited

to find an active group of local soapers!!!!! So far I've only been

soaping for ourselves and mostly gifts, but I do have some friends and

friends of friends who have bought soaps on occasion. I'm thinking

about taking the jump to expand on the " business " side, but I'm still

looking into paperwork, etc. that needs to be done. On a personal

note, I am mostly a stay-at-home mom to a high energy 6 year old boy,

and we homeschool. I'm very interested in alternative healing and

Waldorf education, I like to knit and sew, and I want to think that I

will have a decent garden this year, but we'll have to see about that.

Oh, and I'm trying to get back onto my raw fruits & veggies diet. I

think that about sums me up! :-)

Would someone please send me information about the gathering.

Thanks so much! I am excited to be here!!

K. (I take it there are several s here, but are there any

other s?)

" The quality of our thoughts is bordered on all sides by our facility

with language. " -J. Straczynski

[Guest guest]

Wow, what an introduction - I didn't see any mention of Down syndrome - only

some type of things I have no clue about, nor do I want to know. Sounds

like a spammer to me and I removed that person.

Anytime someone puts initials that aren't readily recognizable after their

name is a red flag for me. Some of you will remember the BNA title someone

used years ago when pushing a product. I saw several things that were red

flags and obviously Rick called it on the person. Honestly, I quickly read

the post last night, but had to email Mathew's teacher and then attend to

things here (Tim was out of town) and crashed when I put to sleep- I

wondered who would reply before I did..lol!

Moderators can moderate (meaning they have to approve the message before

it's sent out) any individual if they suspect something is up - I rarely

have to do this, but in this case, it would have been called for- and

removal, too. If you all see something in the future, you can alert one of

us - it would be best to forward the email to me or another moderator with

something in the subject area to get our attention. I know it's hard to

ignore spammers, but do try and let us take care of it. Imagine their

frustration when no one responds...lol! Kathy has my work email address and

cell phone number just in case I need to see something quickly.

Ok, gotta run to the pharmacy and pick up another prescription.....

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lorna,

It sounds like these fevers are a frightening experience for you and

Penelope. I can understand why you have a hesitation with the

diagnosis. Sudden spiking fevers and severe headache are NOT symptoms

of . I would definitely investigate further. There is a lot of

information in the FILEs section of this website and there is a LOT of

info on the internet in general.

There is a condition called NOMID/CINCA you may want to look into.

Sudden spiking fevers, rashes and neurological disorders are part of

that disorder. There are many other things it could be too, so start

your own research.

Please be strong with the doctors. We saw 16 doctors and specialists

before one took us seriously. We then were seen at the NIH and got

the diagnosis we had suspected all along. Hyper IgD syndrome (HIDS)

and BOTH our daughters have it. It's very rare- only about 200 people

have been diagnosed with it so far. None of our local doctors had

even heard of periodic fevers, much less HIDs.

Good luck and welcome to the group,

Wilke

Vancouver BC Canada

Mom to Hana 4 and Georgia 2

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> My name is Lorna Rodgers, we moved to Atlanta from Seattle about 5

> months ago. My daughter Penelope who is now 4.5 was diagnosed with

> 1 year ago after many tests and visits to more specialists

> than I knew existed. The infectious disease center at Children's

> Hospital in Seattle said that they couldn't find any other cause for

> what is going on and they diagnosed her with . I am hesitant to

> end my search for a diagnosis because I feel that I have too many

> hesitations about the diagnosis.

>

> Since we have been in Atlanta her fevers have begun to spike and

> drop at alarming rates (to me). On Thursday my daughter had her

> first febrile seizure (15 days to the hour after her last fever.)

> She went to bed with no fever, then approximately 1 hour 20 minutes

> later I heard her screaming and I ran in to see what had happened.

> She was grabbing her head and screaming that it hurt and that her

> leg hurt, her face and body were red and she was very hot. I took

> her out of her bed to try to cool her down and as soon as we were in

> the living room she started to seize. I didn't even have a chance

> to check her temp. I was so scared that it was difficult to think

> straight! After the seizure (I think it may have only last less than

> a minute, but it seemed like it lasted a lot longer) she was

> completely unresponsive for about 10 minutes and then for

> approximately 20 minutes she was holding her head screaming that her

> head hurt. At that point we took her temp and it was 103.8. Three

> hours later her fever was GONE!

>

> Then the next day at about 3:00 PM her fever started to spike again

> and she went from 99.7 to 102.9 in 20 minutes, an hour later it was

> 104. Then it went back to normal before bed time and she had a fever

> free night. On Friday, late morning, her fever was 102.8 and then

> went back to normal and spiked 3 times throughout the day but never

> higher than 102.8. This morning she is fever free.

>

> To complicate matters a bit, she was adopted from China at age 2 and

> I have very little medical history and no family history. Some of

> the muscles in her left leg are atrophied, her left leg is slightly

> shorter, her hip bone is smaller and the muscles are weak in the

> front of her neck. Her neurologist, Dr. Glass in Seattle, diagnosed

> her with having had a possible stroke and Dr. Bledsoe, an adoption

> specialist in Seattle, thinks that she may have had polio from the

> live virus vaccine before she was adopted.

>

> Her fevers are frequently accompanied by a rash over most or part of

> her body, but they are not consistent; the last time she had a

> significant rash was Christmas last year. The fevers are also

> followed by 1 to 3 days fatigue and irritability.

>

> The first time I took her to the doctor here in Atlanta, Penelope

> was so exhausted and just laying on my shoulder and not interacting

> with the doctor. (She is normally very extroverted and loves people)

> I told him about the fever she had just had and how she was always

> lethargic after an episode. The doctor didn't ask ANY questions and

> the first thing he said was: " well you know that these adopted

> children will have lifelong emotional issues " I was so angry I just

> wanted to walk out of the office. I had her medical file in hand and

> I didn't even let him look at it.

>

> When I took her to a different pediatrician here on Thursday she

> referred me to a neurologist Dr. Goldstein and to an infectious

> disease specialist Dr. Balcarek. Are there other parents in the

> Atlanta area who can give me a recommendation for a good doctor in

> the area who has experience with or one whom you felt took the

> situation seriously and listened to your concerns? I loved our

> pediatrician Dr. Bledsoe in Seattle and I miss her expertise

> terribly.

>

> Thanks for reading my post. I welcome any insight or suggestions

> regarding our situation.

> Lorna

> Mom to Penelope age 4.5(and Matilde age 8)

>

> P.S. My good friend , (McKenzie's mom) from the list and I were

> college roommates. She told me about the list about a year ago.

[Guest guest]

My daughter had and had spikes in temperatures from 98 - 102

degrees and had leg pains. The leg pains could be part of the ,

or normal growth spurt.

Had her tonsils out hasn't had a or fever since.

I would look at all the posts here and nail your doctor down with a

diagnosis.

[Guest guest]

At 10:08 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote:

>I am surprised to find a group of this size devoted to my favorite

>topic. I don't know anyone else who makes perfume and most people

>think I'm kind of wacky when I tell them it is my number one

>hobby. :-)

Oh, all you had to do was stick your nose in the air and get a whiff of the

fragrant breeze ;-) Glad you found us, Jodi, and welcome to the group.

>I just finished " Scents and Sensibilities " by Aftel and I am having

>a great time searching for little tins, boxes, lockets, etc. for my

>solid perfumes at garage sales and thrift stores. I had done mostly

>perfume oils or perfumes diluted in alcohol before, so the solid

>perfume is a whole new kick.

Solids are wonderful, and marketing research shows they are incredibly

popular among young girls and women, due to their portability and ease-of-use.

Just jump in with any questions -- I'll bet you have a bunch after reading

the message archives and Files sections. Don't forget to check out the

links to our own natural perfumers and suppliers in the Links section.

Anya

http://.com

The premier site on the Web to discover the beauty of Natural Perfume

" The Age of the Foodie is passé. It is now the Age of the Scentie. "

[Guest guest]

I want to incorporate unique indigenous plant EO's, thus

making them truly 'Alaskan', so have been learning the art

of distilling several select plants in my area, with the

small distiller sold on ebay. I want each fragrance to

incorporate at least one indigenous plant. That is the key

to the success of such a line as mine in a gift-type store.

I have been searching for a group such as this I could

learn from, and share with. I've been going through the

archives a little bit the last two days to get a feel for

this group, and I must say, I'm both very happy to be a

part of it, and impressed. I think I may have to sit at the

feet of the masters here a little bit, which is an

apprenticeship I've been looking for.

Kathy

Flathorn Lake, AK

Hi Kathy and welcome to the group. I think your ideas of marketing

'Alaskan' fragrances is wonderful. People love this sort of thing.I do. It

can be really challenging to come up with a finished all-natural fragrance

that one is happy with. The challenge for natural perfumers is that most of

our ingredients, eos, abs, etc.are very complex. Every time we add a single

ingredient we are really adding many ingredients. Some of these essences,

like rose, have several hundred molecular constituents.

The most important thing I've learned is that a good perfume is a balance

between simplicity and complexity. Our ingredients are complex, so we must

use them in a way that reflects this. So, regarding simple 3-5 note eo

blends.remember that 3-5 note accords can provide a necessary structure for

a perfume, an underlying accord (simplicity) that a more complex composition

can be built on. This structure provides the essential character of a scent

and can be embellished by judiciously adding smaller amounts of other

ingredients.

There is beauty in simplicity and sometimes 3 ingredients can be composed to

create a most striking fragrance. Ah, but who stops there? Not I !

Happy perfuming

Terry

www.dragonflyaromatics.com

[Guest guest]

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kathy C

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:40 AM

Subject: New Member Introduction

I want to introduce myself as a new member. My name is

Kathy, I hail from Alaska, and have been interested in

natural perfumery for a few years, the last year seriously.

Presently, I'm trying to come up with a line of natural

'Alaskan' fragrances to market to the local gift shops.

There is real interest in a product such as this, but

coming up with the finished fragrances has been more

difficult than I envisioned, #1 because I've set my

standards high, and #2 because it is more difficult than it

seems to make something other than a simple 3-5 note EO

fragrance.

I want to incorporate unique indigenous plant EO's, thus

making them truly 'Alaskan', so have been learning the art

of distilling several select plants in my area, with the

small distiller sold on ebay. I want each fragrance to

incorporate at least one indigenous plant. That is the key

to the success of such a line as mine in a gift-type store.

I have been searching for a group such as this I could

learn from, and share with. I've been going through the

archives a little bit the last two days to get a feel for

this group, and I must say, I'm both very happy to be a

part of it, and impressed. I think I may have to sit at the

feet of the masters here a little bit, which is an

apprenticeship I've been looking for.

Kathy

Flathorn Lake, AK

Hi Kathy,

Happy to see you here. Wow, someone who is up-close-and-personal to the

famed Iditarod! I know it crosses Flathorn Lake. I am down here in WA

state and I've long worked with indigenous plants of the greater Pacific NW

(including Rainforest). A colleague of mine, Carol Biggs has photographed

and published two great little pocketbooks of wild edible and medicinal

plants in AK/CA, (easily carried when wildcrafting/researching) that would

be helpful to you and may introduce you to new species you haven't thought

of. We carry these little pocket guides if you are interested. There are a

growing number of distillers in Canada producing unusual indigenous

essential oils and hydrosols from our beautiful part of the world, that you

may wish to connect with. http://www.anhan.org/about_us.jsp is one of the

organizations in Alberta, funded by the Canadian government for new crops,

including aromatic. I've purchased lovely unusual oils and hydrosols from

several of their members, including fireweed and (swoon) sweetgrass.

Don't forget that some of the fragrances are best captured by tincturing, so

if you are disappointed in the results of distillation, try other methods

like tincturing or enfleurage. I've had the Sitka valerian (Valeriana

sitchensis) herb, but I've often wondered about the flower. Other valerian

spp. flowers have a heady sweetness that would be wonderful in perfumes if

we can capture it. Have you worked with this one? There are a lot of

species indigenous to AK named as such . . . For instance, most of us in the

northern climes are familiar with Mountain Ash (also with a lovely fragrant

flower, btw)and perhaps not many here know that there is a variety specific

to your area, Sorbus Sitchensis. Another flower I'm interested in is Ocean

Spray or Creambush and sometimes called Ironwood (Holodiscus discolor) from

the Rose (ceae) family with a sweet-smelling flower that may give unique

fragrance to perfumes. This bush grows in open areas, clearings and coastal

bluffs all over AK.

Can you describe the distillation equipment you got from E-Bay? Or send url

to view it? I know that there is a little gin distiller on E-Bay that was

once advertised in airline catalogs . . . Years ago, before I knew about the

complexities of essential oil distillation, I bought one of those, but

quickly became discouraged with it, especially after seeing and purchasing

better equipment that had actual cooling coils and sep funnels. I am still

looking for the small glass alembic unit used at the turn of the century

(i.e.,last one) in 'lady's still rooms'. Sigh. One of these days I'll find

it and find a glass blower to replicate it.

In case you have missed the information, Jeanne Rose is teaching a wonderful

natural perfume intensive here in Snohomish, WA the 23-25th of this month.

Still room for one more and it's really not that far for you; check my

website.

Be well,

Marcia Elston, Samara Botane, http://www.wingedseed.com/katrina.htm

" First of all, cultivate a contented spirit; a garden is a good place to

begin. "

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list, you will love it here. The picture of the keyboard on

the seat of your bike cracked me up, that is WAY funny! YOU look fabulous,

and I wish you much success on your weight loss journey.

Pam

--- bfl_pianolady <bfl_pianolady@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm so glad to find this forum. After several months without access

> to my weight room (due to home renovation), I'm just itching to get

> back into the BFL lifetstyle. Hope it's ok to post my webpage about

> my background. I don't sell anything, just info that's easier to

> link to than retype here. LOL

>

> http://www.bondpiano.com/weightloss/

>

>

>

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Hello,

I loved looking at your new exercise room. We just converted our garage

into a weight room/family room and I love it soooo much, I don't have to

wait for dh to get so I can lift weights and now can play my music loud

since the treadmill isn't in the dining room. I also noticed someone in

your family is a HotWheels collector, my dad is too! HUGE!

It's nice to have you here!

-- New Member Introduction

Hi everyone,

I'm so glad to find this forum. After several months without access

to my weight room (due to home renovation), I'm just itching to get

back into the BFL lifetstyle. Hope it's ok to post my webpage about

my background. I don't sell anything, just info that's easier to

link to than retype here. LOL

http://www.bondpiano.com/weightloss/

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The support you get from this site is amazing, and the knowledge is wonderful as

well. I too have followed weight watchers, which is a great program for a

beginner, and someone new to diet and exercise. But if you are ready to stop

following a diet, and make a lifestyle change to have it become part of your

life, and move your exercise to the next level. Then welcome to BFL.

You will love the program, it has transformed my life, and I am so happy that I

took the steps, followed the program and joined this awesome support group. It

has made such a difference, in my attitude toward fitness, and my life in

general.

Good Luck, and welcome to our group!

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clovermillie <chmurphy@...> wrote:

Hello All,

Just wanted to take a moment to introduce myself. I'm Clover,

married, age 42, with two ds's(13 and 16). I'm new to BFL after

doing

Weight Watchers for many years but not new to exercise as I've been

working out in one form or another since I was 16. My trainer has

encouraged me to follow BFL for about a year now and I'm finally

ready

to commit. I've read the book and also BFL for Women but feel like I

will need the support of this group to help me on my way.

cm

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--- Marcia Elston <samara@...> wrote:

> Hi Kathy,

>

> Happy to see you here. Wow, someone who is up-close

-and-personal to the famed Iditarod! I know it crosses

Flathorn Lake. I am down here in WA state and I've long

worked with indigenous plants of the greater Pacific NW

> (including Rainforest). A colleague of mine, Carol Biggs

> has photographed and published two great little

pocketbooks of wild edible and medicinal plants in AK/CA,

(easily carried when wildcrafting/researching) that would

> be helpful to you and may introduce you to new species

> you haven't thought of. We carry these little pocket

guides if you are interested. There are a growing number

of distillers in Canada producing unusual indigenous

> essential oils and hydrosols from our beautiful part of

> the world, that you may wish to connect with.

> http://www.anhan.org/about_us.jsp is one of the

> organizations in Alberta, funded by the Canadian

> government for new crops, including aromatic. I've

purchased lovely unusual oils and hydrosols from

> several of their members, including fireweed and (swoon)

> sweetgrass.

>

> Don't forget that some of the fragrances are best

> captured by tincturing, so if you are disappointed in the

results of distillation, try other methods like tincturing

or enfleurage. I've had the Sitka valerian (Valeriana

> sitchensis) herb, but I've often wondered about the

> flower. Other valerian spp. flowers have a heady

sweetness that would be wonderful in perfumes if we can

capture it. Have you worked with this one? There

> are a lot of species indigenous to AK named as such . .

.. For instance, most of us in the northern climes are

familiar with Mountain Ash (also with a lovely fragrant

> flower, btw)and perhaps not many here know that there is

> a variety specific to your area, Sorbus Sitchensis.

Another flower I'm interested in is Ocean Spray or

Creambush and sometimes called Ironwood (Holodiscus

discolor) from the Rose (ceae) family with a

sweet-smelling flower that may give unique fragrance to

perfumes. This bush grows in open areas, clearings and

coastal bluffs all over AK.

> Can you describe the distillation equipment you got from

> E-Bay? Or send url to view it? I know that there is a

little gin distiller on E-Bay that was once advertised in

airline catalogs . . . Years ago, before I knew about the

> complexities of essential oil distillation, I bought one

> of those, but quickly became discouraged with it,

especially after seeing and purchasing

> better equipment that had actual cooling coils and sep

> funnels. I am still looking for the small glass alembic

unit used at the turn of the century (i.e.,last one) in

'lady's still rooms'. Sigh. One of these days I'll find

> it and find a glass blower to replicate it.

There's much information in your response - I'm still

working through it, but am glad to have it.

Just to let you, and everyone, know - if I don't respond to

queries for a long time, it's because my homestead is off

the road/power grid, and I have internet access only when I

come to Anchorage. My non-responsiveness just means I'm at

Flathorn. I'm also surprised you recognized it as an

Iditarod waypoint - you must have been up here during the

race to know that. Actually, the father of the Iditarod was

my neighbor growing up, a true dyed-in-the-wool character -

part scoundrel, part snake-charmer, part genius, as befits

the category.

The ebay distiller is this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ESSENTIAL-OIL-STEAM-DISTILLATION-EXTRACTION_W0QQitemZ5617835\

402QQcategoryZ11776QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This seller makes his own, and always has one or two up for

sale.

Your indigenous plants information was most interesting.

The ones I've been focusing on are Oplapanax horridus

" Devil's Club " , which I believe also grows locally in

Washington, and the flower of the Silverberry, Elaeagnus

commutata. The Devil's Club had medicinal and spiritual

uses in the indigenous people's culture, and possesses in

addition, a wonderfully deep, earthy fragrance. I have been

trying to steam distill it, with mixed results. I am making

a tincture with Everclear at the moment, as my sister, a

shaman, prepares it in that manner for her ceremonies. Its

fragrance also comes true in oil maceration, but the

maceration tends to keep bubbling from the active agents

leached from the bark, which won't work for a commercial

fragrance.

To date, I have used the maceration as a base for my

experimental fragrances. I'm also experimenting with its

ancient usage as a treatment for infections of all sorts,

both external and internal. Though marketing this as a

therapeutic fragrance oil is more legally formidable than

simply as a fragrance, I still like the idea that such a

product can also be healing.

The Silverberry flower is one of the most fragrant

wildflowers I've smelled here, a sort of soapy Gardenia or

Osmanthus fragrance up close. The soapiness disappears when

dispersed. The EO yield was pitifully small, which came as

no surprise. I wish I'd thought of your suggestion to make

a tincture of them in June, when they bloom. I now have to

wait until next summer to proceed with this plant.

Thanks for the URL for the Canadian distiller's group. I'm

sure they have a similar mix of flora available to them as

here.

I'm familiar with some of the plants you mentioned, and not

with others. I know the mountain ash you speak of - it is

a coastal shrub - but had not considered working with it as

a fragrance.

I will look into the valerians. The Cream Bush, Holodiscus

discolor, did not ring a bell. I suspect it may be most

predominant in the Southeast. I looked it up on the

internet, and it doesn't look familiar, but the fragrance

sounds lovely.

Labrador Tea and Sweetgale are two other local plants I'm

interested in incorporating. After an internet search I see

at least sweet gale is available in an eo. These two make

up the primary fragrance of the dry bogs in my area, and

it's a smell I would dearly love to be able to bottle.

Kathy

Flathorn Lake, AK

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Welcome Kristi,

We are nearly neighbors! I live in Andover near 161st and Hanson.

Kimi

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