Re: Did McCarthy dis us on Oprah?

September 25, 2008

I get a lot of info from him. Sometimes he contradicts himself. LOL

And he does sell many products $$$.

On Sep 25, 2008, at 4:43 PM, wharrison@... wrote:

> Love him!

>

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September 25, 2008

Once in awhile I see some facts wrong and I have to overlook the massive,

multi-colored advertisements, very annoying. But lots of eye-opening material

on his site.

Winnie

Re: Re: Did McCarthy dis us

> on

> > Oprah?

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September 25, 2008

I agree

On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:18 PM, wharrison@... wrote:

> Once in awhile I see some facts wrong and I have to overlook the

> massive, multi-colored advertisements, very annoying. But lots of

> eye-opening material on his site.

>

> Winnie

>

> Re: Re: Did McCarthy dis us

> > on

> > > Oprah?

> > > > > Vaccinations

> > > > >

> > > > > > winnie check out...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Home

> > > > > > Autism

> > > > > > Pneumonia

> > > > > > Crohn's/Colitis

> > > > > > Hepatitis

> > > > > > Diabetes

> > > > > > Fibromyalgia

> > > > > > HIV-AIDS

> > > > > > Paralysis

> > > > > > Muscular Dystrophy

> > > > > > Multiple Sclerosis

> > > > > > Osteoporosis

> > > > > > Prostate Relief

> > > > > > Lupus

> > > > > > Pulmonary Fibrosis

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> > > > > > Sickle Cell

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> > > > > > Cancer DVD

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September 25, 2008

Correct. There is no mercury in " live " virus vaccines, because... get

this... the mercury kills the live virus! But it's okay to inject it

directly into your blood stream... it won't hurt a bit!

There is no preservative or adjuvant in MMR - no aluminum or mercury.

However, it does contain 25 mcg of neomycin, which is consistent with

Sheri's theory that antibiotics may be a contributing factor toward

autism.

Here's the Prescribing Information, which lists the ingredients:

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

Among all the crap they list for ingredients is " other buffer and

media ingredients " . It should be noted that vaccine manufacturers

don't have to disclose any ingredient that is not considered an

" active ingredient " , so who knows what is in the vaccines, really!

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Le <kdhrtd@...> wrote:

> they dont have mercury in " LIVE " virus and bacterial vaccines?

>

> It must have aluminum...no?

>

> On Sep 25, 2008, at 3:58 PM, wharrison@... wrote:

September 25, 2008

Hi

So are you saying that if all mercury was taken out of all vaccines that you

would agree that all children could be safely vaccinated?

Re: Did McCarthy dis us on Oprah?

You're wrong. We know beyond any doubt that mercury was the primary

cause of autism. We have known this since 1999. Did you not read

what Deth presented to the IOM in 2004? Are you aware of

Neubrander's statistics showing that over 90% of autistic kids

improve with methyl B-12? Those kids would not improve at all if

mercury was not inside of them preventing them from making their own

methyl B-12.

Lots of kids have been cured by removing the mercury with

chelation. Not one of them would have been cured if mercury was not

the cause.

If there are unvaccinated autistic children, did their mothers have

the flu shot or Rhogam? Did they have amalgams or did they give the

kids mercury through breast milk? Have the unvaccinated been tested

for genetics to check for Retts or fragile X?

I shouldn't even have to point this out to anyone who knows the

facts about autism, especially the fact that autism did not exist

before thimerosal was invented or the fact that there was hardly any

autism before the HepB shot began to put mercury directly into

infants' brains that had no blood brain barrier.

Yes, we can (AND SHOULD) make absolute statements about the cause.

The more we have people like Kirby making wimpy statements like

mercury might have caused some problems in certain individuals, the

more we look like a bunch of dopes who can't even convince ourselves

that we are right. WE are 100% certain that we are right about this

by virtue of the fact that we have cured children by removing the

mercury. That proves it, case closed!

> > > >Am I wrong or did she dis us?

> > > >

> > > >She said that the community she represents is not " anti-

vaccine " .

> >They

> > > >are a group of intelligent parents that know the importance of

> >having

> > > >vaccines.She says we deserve safe ones. Are there safe

vaccines?

> >Even

> > > >if you took out all of the chemicals are they safe? It looks

like

> > > >someone didn't do enough homework!

> > >

> > > Exactly - this came out earlier this year with the Green

Vaccines

> >Rally in D.C.

> > > Some say this is a place to start and go from there.

> > > But also people are being mislead - no vaccine can be safe.

> > > I'll send an email I sent then

> > >

> > > People think they won't be heard or won't get on these TV shows

if

> > > the say all vaccines are dangerous, so they take this route.

> > >

> > > >Whose body can handle these vaccine ingredients?Nobodies!

Maybe,

> >you

> > > >can't see the damage but there is damage on a molecular level

> >whether

> > > >symptomatic or not!

> > >

> > > Exactly - even without the additives, the whole premise is

flawed

> >and harmful

> > >

> > > >If you are going to give your kids shots I do agree that there

> >should

> > > >be tests done so you know what is going on in with their gut,

> >immune

> > > >system, history,body detoxifiers ie:glutithione , etc.

> > >

> > > And even then won't be safe as the vaccines will cause problems

> >with

> > > the above, even if fine before the vaccine.

> > > Sheri

> > >

> > > --------------------------------------------------------

> > > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA &

Wales UK

> > > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> > > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes

> >Sept 10, 2008

> > >

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

September 25, 2008

Wasn't there a country which had no thimerosal in any of their vaccines? What

is the rate of autism in that country?

Re: Re: Did McCarthy dis us on Oprah?

Vaccinations

> well...mercury is one of the chems that cause autism.What If

> they

> take out " all " of the mercury from vaccines I think our children

> will

> still get autism from other ingredients in the vaccines(my

> belief)and

> they will still have health issues. However, then, they will see

> us

> as nuts!. they will say it wasn't the mercury after all so, they

> will

> not listen if we bring up other chems in the shots. They will

> think

> we are grasping at straws. They will say " see it wasn't the

> mercury

> so enough " ! The confidence in the vaccines will increase.

>

> People think your nuts if your anti-vaccine period.

> I usually tell them to research what is in the vaccines then

> research

> the chems themselves and how the affect the human infant and child.

>

> I have never made a blanket statement to the public that

> vaccines are

> not safe. They wouldn't get it. I have only said it to this

> group.

> They understand.

> On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Best Jr wrote:

>

> > For the overwhelming majority of the population, vaccines are safe.

> > When you say there can be no safe vaccine, that majority just writes

> > you off as a nut.

> > If you want to make your point to the general public, you need to

> > point out the specifics of why vaccines are not safe for 1 out of

> > 150. When you toss out 50 different theories, the public sees 50

> > little green men from Mars.

> > The major cause of autism is mercury. The reason mercury stays in

> > the brain of that 1 in 150 is the presence of the APO-E4 protein.

> > Simplicity, that's what the public, and idiotic politicians can

> > absorb. If you can make the politicians see that one fact,

> then you

> > tell them about aluminum and other specifics that they can't absorb

> > until they accept the major cause.

> >

> > > >Am I wrong or did she dis us?

> > > >

> > > >She said that the community she represents is not " anti-vaccine " .

> > They

> > > >are a group of intelligent parents that know the importance of

> > having

> > > >vaccines.She says we deserve safe ones. Are there safe vaccines?

> > Even

> > > >if you took out all of the chemicals are they safe? It

> looks like

> > > >someone didn't do enough homework!

> > >

> > > Exactly - this came out earlier this year with the Green Vaccines

> > Rally in D.C.

> > > Some say this is a place to start and go from there.

> > > But also people are being mislead - no vaccine can be safe.

> > > I'll send an email I sent then

> > >

> > > People think they won't be heard or won't get on these TV

> shows if

> > > the say all vaccines are dangerous, so they take this route.

> > >

> > > >Whose body can handle these vaccine ingredients?Nobodies! Maybe,

> > you

> > > >can't see the damage but there is damage on a molecular level

> > whether

> > > >symptomatic or not!

> > >

> > > Exactly - even without the additives, the whole premise is flawed

> > and harmful

> > >

> > > >If you are going to give your kids shots I do agree that there

> > should

> > > >be tests done so you know what is going on in with their gut,

> > immune

> > > >system, history,body detoxifiers ie:glutithione , etc.

> > >

> > > And even then won't be safe as the vaccines will cause problems

> > with

> > > the above, even if fine before the vaccine.

> > > Sheri

> > >

> > > --------------------------------------------------------

> > > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA &

> Wales UK

> > > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> > > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes

> > Sept 10, 2008

> > >

> >

>

September 25, 2008

they are supposed to be disposed of as hazardous waste and not in with the

regular garbage.

Re: Did McCarthy dis us on Oprah?

> Vaccinations

>

> > I can remember playing w/mercury on the floor in physics class.

> >

> > I know I broke one of those new light bulbs fairly recently,

> > before I knew mercury was in

> > them. I just picked up the big pieces for the trash and

> > vacuumed up the rest. Now I hear

> > we're supposed to do something special to clean that up?

> >

September 26, 2008

I know of none

Sheri

At 06:25 AM 9/26/2008, you wrote:

>Wasn't there a country which had no thimerosal in any of their

>vaccines? What is the rate of autism in that country?

>

> Re: Re: Did McCarthy dis us on Oprah?

> Vaccinations

>

> > well...mercury is one of the chems that cause autism.What If

> > they

> > take out " all " of the mercury from vaccines I think our children

> > will

> > still get autism from other ingredients in the vaccines(my

> > belief)and

> > they will still have health issues. However, then, they will see

> > us

> > as nuts!. they will say it wasn't the mercury after all so, they

> > will

> > not listen if we bring up other chems in the shots. They will

> > think

> > we are grasping at straws. They will say " see it wasn't the

> > mercury

> > so enough " ! The confidence in the vaccines will increase.

> >

> > People think your nuts if your anti-vaccine period.

> > I usually tell them to research what is in the vaccines then

> > research

> > the chems themselves and how the affect the human infant and child.

> >

> > I have never made a blanket statement to the public that

> > vaccines are

> > not safe. They wouldn't get it. I have only said it to this

> > group.

> > They understand.

> > On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Best Jr wrote:

> >

> > > For the overwhelming majority of the population, vaccines are safe.

> > > When you say there can be no safe vaccine, that majority just writes

> > > you off as a nut.

> > > If you want to make your point to the general public, you need to

> > > point out the specifics of why vaccines are not safe for 1 out of

> > > 150. When you toss out 50 different theories, the public sees 50

> > > little green men from Mars.

> > > The major cause of autism is mercury. The reason mercury stays in

> > > the brain of that 1 in 150 is the presence of the APO-E4 protein.

> > > Simplicity, that's what the public, and idiotic politicians can

> > > absorb. If you can make the politicians see that one fact,

> > then you

> > > tell them about aluminum and other specifics that they can't absorb

> > > until they accept the major cause.

> > >

> > > > >Am I wrong or did she dis us?

> > > > >

> > > > >She said that the community she represents is not " anti-vaccine " .

> > > They

> > > > >are a group of intelligent parents that know the importance of

> > > having

> > > > >vaccines.She says we deserve safe ones. Are there safe vaccines?

> > > Even

> > > > >if you took out all of the chemicals are they safe? It

> > looks like

> > > > >someone didn't do enough homework!

> > > >

> > > > Exactly - this came out earlier this year with the Green Vaccines

> > > Rally in D.C.

> > > > Some say this is a place to start and go from there.

> > > > But also people are being mislead - no vaccine can be safe.

> > > > I'll send an email I sent then

> > > >

> > > > People think they won't be heard or won't get on these TV

> > shows if

> > > > the say all vaccines are dangerous, so they take this route.

> > > >

> > > > >Whose body can handle these vaccine ingredients?Nobodies! Maybe,

> > > you

> > > > >can't see the damage but there is damage on a molecular level

> > > whether

> > > > >symptomatic or not!

> > > >

> > > > Exactly - even without the additives, the whole premise is flawed

> > > and harmful

> > > >

> > > > >If you are going to give your kids shots I do agree that there

> > > should

> > > > >be tests done so you know what is going on in with their gut,

> > > immune

> > > > >system, history,body detoxifiers ie:glutithione , etc.

> > > >

> > > > And even then won't be safe as the vaccines will cause problems

> > > with

> > > > the above, even if fine before the vaccine.

> > > > Sheri

> > > >

> > > > --------------------------------------------------------

> > > > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> > > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA &

> > Wales UK

> > > > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> > > > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes

> > > Sept 10, 2008

> > > >

> > >

> >

September 26, 2008

Also, those live bugs can cause brain inflamation

On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:41 AM, Roberg wrote:

> Correct. There is no mercury in " live " virus vaccines, because... get

> this... the mercury kills the live virus! But it's okay to inject it

> directly into your blood stream... it won't hurt a bit!

>

> There is no preservative or adjuvant in MMR - no aluminum or mercury.

> However, it does contain 25 mcg of neomycin, which is consistent with

> Sheri's theory that antibiotics may be a contributing factor toward

> autism.

>

> Here's the Prescribing Information, which lists the ingredients:

> http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

>

> Among all the crap they list for ingredients is " other buffer and

> media ingredients " . It should be noted that vaccine manufacturers

> don't have to disclose any ingredient that is not considered an

> " active ingredient " , so who knows what is in the vaccines, really!

>

> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Le <kdhrtd@...> wrote:

> > they dont have mercury in " LIVE " virus and bacterial vaccines?

> >

> > It must have aluminum...no?

> >

> > On Sep 25, 2008, at 3:58 PM, wharrison@... wrote:

>

September 26, 2008

Hi ,

I hear the same retort to what I say all the time from people who

want to defend vaccines. They purposely confuse words like " mostly "

and " primary " with the word " all " to present their disingenuous

arguments that they think discredit the rest of my point. Of course,

this word switching technique only discredits them. So, please don't

change the words I use if you want to have an honest discussion.

That said, I recently learned that aluminum eats holes in the blood

brain barrier. There is also now more aluminum in thimerosal since

the mercury has been reduced to allegedly trace levels. And, it has

been known for a long time that aluminum was instrumental in

Alzheimer's which is about the same thing as autism. So, aluminum is

also part of the problem.

You can ignore what I said about Deth and Neubrander if your

purpose is simply to knock my assertion that mercury is the primary

cause but that just means I have to repeat it. You see, it's

important when any treatment proves to be over 90% effective. That

tells us that we have attacked the correct cause of the condition.

So, I think most would agree that an effective treatment for over 90%

of affected victims would equate with the word " primary " .

One more consideration is the fact that some kids may have had so

many brain cells killed that they just will not respond to

treatment. I don't think anyone has all the answers here. And, we

do have to go back the origin of autism in 1931 before any kids were

injected with any thimerosal and consider that fact. So, my using

the word " primary " could be a guarded understatement as it just be

true that mercury is the cause of " all " autism.

JB

> > > > >Am I wrong or did she dis us?

> > > > >

> > > > >She said that the community she represents is not " anti-

> vaccine " .

> > >They

> > > > >are a group of intelligent parents that know the

importance of

> > >having

> > > > >vaccines.She says we deserve safe ones. Are there safe

> vaccines?

> > >Even

> > > > >if you took out all of the chemicals are they safe? It

looks

> like

> > > > >someone didn't do enough homework!

> > > >

> > > > Exactly - this came out earlier this year with the Green

> Vaccines

> > >Rally in D.C.

> > > > Some say this is a place to start and go from there.

> > > > But also people are being mislead - no vaccine can be safe.

> > > > I'll send an email I sent then

> > > >

> > > > People think they won't be heard or won't get on these TV

shows

> if

> > > > the say all vaccines are dangerous, so they take this route.

> > > >

> > > > >Whose body can handle these vaccine ingredients?Nobodies!

> Maybe,

> > >you

> > > > >can't see the damage but there is damage on a molecular

level

> > >whether

> > > > >symptomatic or not!

> > > >

> > > > Exactly - even without the additives, the whole premise is

> flawed

> > >and harmful

> > > >

> > > > >If you are going to give your kids shots I do agree that

there

> > >should

> > > > >be tests done so you know what is going on in with their

gut,

> > >immune

> > > > >system, history,body detoxifiers ie:glutithione , etc.

> > > >

> > > > And even then won't be safe as the vaccines will cause

problems

> > >with

> > > > the above, even if fine before the vaccine.

> > > > Sheri

> > > >

> > > > --------------------------------------------------------

> > > > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> > > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA &

> Wales UK

> > > > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> > > > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next

classes

> > >Sept 10, 2008

> > > >

> > >

> > >------------------------------------

> > >

September 26, 2008

Can I belabor a point here? No country had any thimerosal in 1930.

The rate of autism was zero.

> > > > > >Am I wrong or did she dis us?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >She said that the community she represents is not " anti-

vaccine " .

> > > > They

> > > > > >are a group of intelligent parents that know the

importance of

> > > > having

> > > > > >vaccines.She says we deserve safe ones. Are there safe

vaccines?

> > > > Even

> > > > > >if you took out all of the chemicals are they safe? It

> > > looks like

> > > > > >someone didn't do enough homework!

> > > > >

> > > > > Exactly - this came out earlier this year with the Green

Vaccines

> > > > Rally in D.C.

> > > > > Some say this is a place to start and go from there.

> > > > > But also people are being mislead - no vaccine can be

safe.

> > > > > I'll send an email I sent then

> > > > >

> > > > > People think they won't be heard or won't get on these TV

> > > shows if

> > > > > the say all vaccines are dangerous, so they take this

route.

> > > > >

> > > > > >Whose body can handle these vaccine ingredients?

Nobodies! Maybe,

> > > > you

> > > > > >can't see the damage but there is damage on a molecular

level

> > > > whether

> > > > > >symptomatic or not!

> > > > >

> > > > > Exactly - even without the additives, the whole premise

is flawed

> > > > and harmful

> > > > >

> > > > > >If you are going to give your kids shots I do agree that

there

> > > > should

> > > > > >be tests done so you know what is going on in with their

gut,

> > > > immune

> > > > > >system, history,body detoxifiers ie:glutithione , etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > And even then won't be safe as the vaccines will cause

problems

> > > > with

> > > > > the above, even if fine before the vaccine.

> > > > > Sheri

> > > > >

> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------

> > > > > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> > > > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA &

> > > Wales UK

> > > > > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> > > > > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next

classes

> > > > Sept 10, 2008

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

September 26, 2008

And everyone knows this? So thankfully I'm the only one who has ever thrown

them in the

trash. I don't personally have a hazardous waste receptacle at home so when

they break

here - I have no place else to put them but the trash.

>

September 26, 2008

I am not trying to be contentious. My son had an injury after the MMR and yes

he had the misfortune of being born in the 90s so he got overloaded with

thimerosal prior to the MMR but thankfully he got less thimerosal than some

since I did not consent to the Hep B series. We were (and still are) furious

that he was injected with mercury and we were not informed!! We no longer trust

them. We stopped all shots after the MMR. We have made the decision that he

will receive no further vaccines period whether they contain mercury or not. He

has both a religious and a medical exemption from further vaccines.

He has APD and has been in speech therapy for 5 years (he could not speak for

over a year after the MMR and then spoke in jibberish after that but he has

almost made a full, complete recovery of his speech now and talks non-stop) and

probably will get a diagnosis of stealth dyslexia. We have no family history on

either side for any of these problems.

Sending good wishes and positive thoughts your way,

Sandy