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I have lost friends because I don't bite mine. I went through years of

hell and I know it was the vaccines that caused it. I am healthy now but

only through the grace of God and good genetics.

If I come across as over bearing and harsh it is because most people

don't get the chance to regain their health and their life the way I have.

wharrison@... wrote:

>

> Right, but that goes both ways. Do we want the government claiming

> that not vaccinating our kids is hurting them? It has to be up to the

> parents to accept or reject the intense marketing tactics of these

> pharmaceutical companies.

>

> It's hard to watch, though, I know. Makes me sick when I see friends

> of my kids going for their shots. I have to bite my tongue.

>

> Winnie

>

> Re:

> > Re:splitting up vaCcines

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their

> > > > children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim

> > > > who is

> > > > going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing.

> > > >

> > > > GranolaMama5@ aol.com wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > > > cs-momhotmail (DOT) com

> > > > writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the

> > > > whole book?

> > > > >

> > > > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum.

> > > > Its the

> > > > > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not

> > vax at

> > > > all.

> > > > > Here it is:

> > > > >

> > > > > Selective Vaccination Schedule:

> > > > >

> > > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > > 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> > > > > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox

> > > > and hep A

> > > > > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also

> > consider a

> > > > 3-dose

> > > > > polio

> > > > > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> > > > > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> > > > > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

> > > > >

> > > > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out.

> > > > It

> > > > > gives only

> > > > > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here

> > > > it is:

> > > > >

> > > > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule

> > > > >

> > > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> > > > > 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> > > > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> > > > > 21 months: Flu

> > > > > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> > > > > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > > > > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> > > > > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > > > > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> > > > > 5 years: MMR, Flu

> > > > > 6 years: Chickenpox

> > > > > 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> > > > > 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> > > > > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

> > > > >

> > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new

> > > > twists on

> > > > > family

> > > > > favorites at AOL Food.

> > > > > (http://food.

> > > >

> > > > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001

> > > > > >

> > > > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>)

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Thank you. So have we. ;D

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

My prayer is always that people wake up and see the harm vaccines can

do. This is why I spend all of my free time online trying to educate

others and find support for my documentary.

I am so glad to hear you moved from selective vax to non vax.

GranolaMama5@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 5/3/2008 10:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> daniellehunt@... <mailto:daniellehunt%40comcast.net> writes:

>

> While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover

> that they want to defer indefinitely.

>

> That is what happened with my husband and me. We were a delayed/selective

> vax family and one day we discovered we WILL NEVER vax our children

> with any

> vaccinations. I respect a person’s choice what I don't respect is

> when parents

> like my SIL don't even read or educate themselves with what

> vaccinations the

> Dr is giving their children. In her words, well they are the Dr they know

> best. HA

>

> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on

> family

> favorites at AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001

> <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>)

>

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And everyone is entitled to their opinion. While I totally disagree with

vaxing, some people do think it is for their child's safety. Obviously

these people are the ones that are not researching at all.

I also think that giving children fast food, loads of sugar and white flour

etc is horrible. It is difficult for me to keep my mouth shut but I cannot

parent other people's children just as others cannot parent mine. We all

live the way we see best.

le

_____

From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

Behalf Of FORCED ANARCHY

Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 7:50 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

This one is a hard one for me, I honestly put forcing vaccines upon a

child in the same category as allowing your child to be strapped down

and forced to drink multiple types of poison.

Same deadly life altering toxins, just a different method of input!

le Hunt wrote:

>

> While we don't vax I do respect those that decide that it is best for

> their

> family. People need to make their own decision based on their fear of

> vaccines versus fear of diseases and not be judged for their decision.

> While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover

> that they want to defer indefinitely.

>

> _____

>

> From: Vaccinations@ <mailto:Vaccinations%40>

> <mailto:Vaccinations%40>

> [mailto:Vaccinations@ <mailto:Vaccinations%40>

> <mailto:Vaccinations%40>] On

> Behalf Of FORCED ANARCHY

> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:51 PM

> Vaccinations@ <mailto:Vaccinations%40>

<mailto:Vaccinations%40>

> Subject: Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

>

> Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their

> children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim who is

> going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing.

>

> GranolaMama5@ <mailto:GranolaMama5%40aol.com> aol.com wrote:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > cs-momhotmail (DOT) <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> com

> <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> writes:

> >

> > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book?

> >

> > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its the

> > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at all.

> > Here it is:

> >

> > Selective Vaccination Schedule:

> >

> > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and hep A

> > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-dose

> > polio

> > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

> >

> > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It

> > gives only

> > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is:

> >

> > Alternative Vaccine Schedule

> >

> > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> > 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> > 21 months: Flu

> > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> > 5 years: MMR, Flu

> > 6 years: Chickenpox

> > 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> > 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

> >

> > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on

> > family

> > favorites at AOL Food.

> > (http://food.

> <http://food.

<http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>

aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001

> <http://food.

<http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>

aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>>

> aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001

> > <http://food.

> <http://food.

<http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>

aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001

> <http://food.

<http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>

aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>>

> aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>)

> >

> >

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Thanks Winnie. While I don't agree with what he says I did at first and it

got me thinking about vaccines thus urging me to further research. If I

would have read another book first (one that is anti vax) I may not have had

the same reaction. It is definitely about your comfort level.

le

_____

From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

Behalf Of wharrison@...

Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 7:55 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: RE: Re:splitting up vaCcines

I agree, le, in that people have to make decisions based on their

comfort level--even if they don't research it to the degree we might. Only

that family will live with the consequences of their decisions.

When it comes to selectively vaccinating, though, Dr. Sears schedules are

merely opinions. I hope people realize that they do not have to follow it to

the letter, or that jsut because he's open to modified schedules, that means

it is a good one. If I had to pick a selective vaccination schedule, you can

bet I would not pick anything with pertussis in it for any age group.

I do like his blood test suggestion. Very good idea.

Winnie

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

>

>

>

> Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their

> children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim

> who is

> going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing.

>

> GranolaMama5@ aol.com wrote:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > cs-momhotmail (DOT) com

> writes:

> >

> > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the

> whole book?

> >

> > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum.

> Its the

> > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at

> all.

> > Here it is:

> >

> > Selective Vaccination Schedule:

> >

> > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox

> and hep A

> > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a

> 3-dose

> > polio

> > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

> >

> > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out.

> It

> > gives only

> > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here

> it is:

> >

> > Alternative Vaccine Schedule

> >

> > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> > 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> > 21 months: Flu

> > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> > 5 years: MMR, Flu

> > 6 years: Chickenpox

> > 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> > 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

> >

> > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new

> twists on

> > family

> > favorites at AOL Food.

> > (http://food.

>

> aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001

> > >

> aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>)

> >

> >

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Well, that is true however it happens daily and no one can change it.

Shoot, my neighbor has three kids all under 12 and they are all heading down

the road to Diabetes 1. More than chubby the little girl is almost

considered obese. It is not fair that these kids grow up like that. The

mother feeds them so much take away food and sugar foods that it is

disgusting but there is nothing that I or the Government can do about it. I

offer nutritional choices and they may try it but always run back home to

eat their cookies and chips.

Not to make light of this situation at all but we do things that put our

kids to a certain risk daily. Just today my husband took my kids to Great

America and they rode roller coasters after roller coasters. Something very

horrible could have happened to them that could have life long neg

consequences or driving down the freeway.

We, as parents, make the choices based on what we feel is right or wrong.

Some parents disagree with my choices and vice versus.

But I do agree with you on the vaccine issue.

le

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From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

Behalf Of FORCED ANARCHY

Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 8:03 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

What about the life altering repercussions that happen when a child

becomes vaccine injured?

I believe in the rights of families,but there is a limit.

I am a firm believer that no one has the right to do anything to another

human being that could have life long negative consequences unless that

person can give 100% unbiased and fully educated consent.

A child is not in that position.

wharrison@optonline <mailto:wharrison%40optonline.net> .net wrote:

>

> I agree, le, in that people have to make decisions based on

> their comfort level--even if they don't research it to the degree we

> might. Only that family will live with the consequences of their

> decisions.

>

> When it comes to selectively vaccinating, though, Dr. Sears schedules

> are merely opinions. I hope people realize that they do not have to

> follow it to the letter, or that jsut because he's open to modified

> schedules, that means it is a good one. If I had to pick a selective

> vaccination schedule, you can bet I would not pick anything with

> pertussis in it for any age group.

>

> I do like his blood test suggestion. Very good idea.

>

> Winnie

>

> Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

> >

> >

> >

> > Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their

> > children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim

> > who is

> > going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing.

> >

> > GranolaMama5@ aol.com wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > cs-momhotmail (DOT) com

> > writes:

> > >

> > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the

> > whole book?

> > >

> > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum.

> > Its the

> > > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at

> > all.

> > > Here it is:

> > >

> > > Selective Vaccination Schedule:

> > >

> > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> > > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox

> > and hep A

> > > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a

> > 3-dose

> > > polio

> > > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> > > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> > > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

> > >

> > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out.

> > It

> > > gives only

> > > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here

> > it is:

> > >

> > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule

> > >

> > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> > > 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> > > 21 months: Flu

> > > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> > > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> > > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> > > 5 years: MMR, Flu

> > > 6 years: Chickenpox

> > > 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> > > 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> > > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

> > >

> > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new

> > twists on

> > > family

> > > favorites at AOL Food.

> > > (http://food.

> >

> > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001

> > > >

> > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>)

> > >

> > >

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aniell hunt wrote, " . It is not fair that these kids grow up like that. The

mother feeds them so much take away food and sugar foods that it is

disgusting but there is nothing that I or the Government can do about it. I

offer nutritional choices and they may try it but always run back home to

eat their cookies and chips. "

Not exactly true, Huckabee while governor of Arkansas wanted to pass a

law that made parents responsible for the obesity of their children -

aka the parents could be held accountable. This was to be monitored

through the public school systems. Very scary stuff.

He did manage to get a law passed that a policeman can pull you over if

you are smoking in a car with a child as a passenger. Don't know the

exact ages on the child - I'm thinking that it's still in a car seat.

Very scary stuff.

There are many ways that people are appealed to in order to get them to

give away personal freedom. One small, seemingly good law can lead

quickly to a very long list of bad, bad laws.

Kathy

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just wondering why all think that he knows something no one else does

- how to do this safely?

Sheri

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wrote:

>

> Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book?

>

>

> >

> > For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book &

> his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he had

> a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule &

> btands he recommends.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Well, Dr. Sears is insane if he thinks I'm going to subject my little ones

to DTaP, much less anything else! Especially at 2 months???? His schedule

is DANGEROUS. Anyone looking to selectively vax, please listen to Sheri and

the rest of us and take heed when we say to research it further! Vaccines

are soooo dangerous for everyone, and especially for an infant! It scares

me to think there are parents following these schedules (Sears) thinking

they are being " safe " about vaccines.

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:47 PM, <GranolaMama5@...> wrote:

>

> Selective Vaccination Schedule:

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and hep A

> immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-dose polio

> series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

>

> The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It gives

only

> one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is:

>

> Alternative Vaccine Schedule

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> 21 months: Flu

> 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> 5 years: MMR, Flu

> 6 years: Chickenpox

> 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

>

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>

>

> In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> cs-mom@... writes:

>

> Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole

book?

>

>

>

> The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its the

> schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at all.

Here it is:

>

> Selective Vaccination Schedule:

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus -

and how is this safe? What infant needs Tetanus vax at 2 months?

who in the US has ever even heard of diphtheria or seen a case?

Pertussis aspect is a very very reactive part (along with tetanus)

and rotavirus vaccine now showing bad reactions

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

And how are these safe?

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

same as above

See my webpages for dangers and go to VAERS reports and look up each

vaccine

www.MedAlerts.org

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 5 years: Tetanus Booster

All abve................

> 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and

hep A

> immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a

3-dose polio

> series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

This is all not necessary

> 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

See terrible reactions girls and women are having

> 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

A terrible terrible vaccine that is causing autoimmune problems around

the globe

It makes me want to scream............

once you research the reality of disease - true reality. Risk of even

getting the disease. Risk of the disease if you have. Alternative

treatment...........you will see NO need for any of these

And once you see no vaccine gives immunity why would you bother?

Those of you wanting to selectively vaccinate - please please do the

above before you are very very sorry

Sheri

listowner

>

> The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It

gives only

> one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is:

>

> Alternative Vaccine Schedule

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> 21 months: Flu

> 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> 5 years: MMR, Flu

> 6 years: Chickenpox

> 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

no, that is not the purpose of this group - we have been in existance

for nearly 10 years

this group can tell you more on that

New Jersey (Medical/Religious exemptions)

Sue njaicv@...

New Jersey Alliance for Informed Choice in Vaccination (NJ-AICV)

PO Box 243, Gillette, NJ 07933

(800)-613-9925

Exemptions: www.njleg.sstate.nj.us then access statute 26:1a-9.1

(Dr. , DC is the current director, Drsfosterdc@...)

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No decision should be based on fear of anything.

It should be based on information and the only way for that is to

research and research until you have seen the havoc wrecked by

vaccines which is reality and the true risk of the illness

Sheri

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It's not about judging, it's about educating... or rather, urging others to

educate themselves, rather than relying on one pediatrician's position (an

allopath even) to make the decision for them that vaccines are safe. Until

one researches the diseases themselves, the ingredients in vaccines, and

even the immune system and it's reaction to vaccines vs. having caught a

disease in the wild (totally different immune response), they truly aren't

well-researched. If a parent is willing to research in-depth what the

safest car seat is for their child, or even look through a catalog to pick

out nursery colors, they should be willing to spend at least that same

amount of time researching vaccines and any other drug before it's put into

their child's system.

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:10 PM, le Hunt <daniellehunt@...>

wrote:

>

> While we don't vax I do respect those that decide that it is best for

their

> family. People need to make their own decision based on their fear of

> vaccines versus fear of diseases and not be judged for their decision.

> While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover

> that they want to defer indefinitely.

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Interesting however that does not happen in CA. Although I do research

quite a bit I do not research other states besides the one I live in and

you can do/feed whatever you want to them.

_____

From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

Behalf Of Kathy

Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:44 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

aniell hunt wrote, " . It is not fair that these kids grow up like that. The

mother feeds them so much take away food and sugar foods that it is

disgusting but there is nothing that I or the Government can do about it. I

offer nutritional choices and they may try it but always run back home to

eat their cookies and chips. "

Not exactly true, Huckabee while governor of Arkansas wanted to pass a

law that made parents responsible for the obesity of their children -

aka the parents could be held accountable. This was to be monitored

through the public school systems. Very scary stuff.

He did manage to get a law passed that a policeman can pull you over if

you are smoking in a car with a child as a passenger. Don't know the

exact ages on the child - I'm thinking that it's still in a car seat.

Very scary stuff.

There are many ways that people are appealed to in order to get them to

give away personal freedom. One small, seemingly good law can lead

quickly to a very long list of bad, bad laws.

Kathy

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You are correct, they should put as much work in vaccines but that is not

the case. Some people make comments more on the judging side is what I was

referring to.

_____

From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

Behalf Of Roberg

Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 12:22 AM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

It's not about judging, it's about educating... or rather, urging others to

educate themselves, rather than relying on one pediatrician's position (an

allopath even) to make the decision for them that vaccines are safe. Until

one researches the diseases themselves, the ingredients in vaccines, and

even the immune system and it's reaction to vaccines vs. having caught a

disease in the wild (totally different immune response), they truly aren't

well-researched. If a parent is willing to research in-depth what the

safest car seat is for their child, or even look through a catalog to pick

out nursery colors, they should be willing to spend at least that same

amount of time researching vaccines and any other drug before it's put into

their child's system.

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:10 PM, le Hunt <daniellehunt@

<mailto:daniellehunt%40comcast.net> comcast.net>

wrote:

>

> While we don't vax I do respect those that decide that it is best for

their

> family. People need to make their own decision based on their fear of

> vaccines versus fear of diseases and not be judged for their decision.

> While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover

> that they want to defer indefinitely.

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I know this schedule is splitting up the vaxes so they're not getting

them all at once but goodness...these schedules look even scarier and

more involved than the mandated ones. Who could even keep all of that

straight, or a better question is...who would want to??? How scary!!!

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > cs-mom@... <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> writes:

> >

> > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole

book?

> >

> > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its

the

> > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at

all.

> > Here it is:

> >

> > Selective Vaccination Schedule:

> >

> > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox

and hep A

> > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-

dose

> > polio

> > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

> >

> > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It

> > gives only

> > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it

is:

> >

> > Alternative Vaccine Schedule

> >

> > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> > 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> > 21 months: Flu

> > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> > 5 years: MMR, Flu

> > 6 years: Chickenpox

> > 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> > 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

> >

> > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists

on

> > family

> > favorites at AOL Food.

> > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001

> > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>)

> >

> >

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> " And all state laws require you do ALL or NONE, if there is no

philosophical exemption. So, the first schedule does many parents no

good. >

>> Winnie "

All state laws require all or none??? I didn't know that. Uh-oh...what

happens if you already got 2 rounds of shots and then got smart about

it and stopped? My state has all 3 exemptions but I would use the

religious one. Am I in for a battle in a few years when it's time for

my daughter to go to school?

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Shoot.. Anyone know about MN? We did the same as you ...

Susie

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On May 4, 2008, at 1:14 PM, " (Coates) " <ladams9200@...> wrote:

>

> " And all state laws require you do ALL or NONE, if there is no

philosophical exemption. So, the first schedule does many parents no

good. >

>> Winnie "

All state laws require all or none??? I didn't know that. Uh-oh...what

happens if you already got 2 rounds of shots and then got smart about

it and stopped? My state has all 3 exemptions but I would use the

religious one. Am I in for a battle in a few years when it's time for

my daughter to go to school?

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Yes, it's all or none for the religious or medical exemptions. You shouldn't

have any battle but if you do, the law is on your side.

If you stopped, that's fine. You just can't have any after you file an exemption

form--doesn't matter if you had a zillion vaccines until then.

I would highly encourage you to file the philosophical one on principle. Someone

went to a lot of trouble to get that law passed for you, believe me. It entitles

parents to pick and choose--not that I would choose to--but it really speaks to

our rights as parents. If my state had it, I'd use the philosophical. Just think

about it anyway.

Winnie

Re:splitting up vaCcines

Vaccinations

>

> >

> > " And all state laws require you do ALL or NONE, if there is no

> philosophical exemption. So, the first schedule does many

> parents no

> good. >

> >> Winnie "

>

> All state laws require all or none??? I didn't know that. Uh-

> oh...what

> happens if you already got 2 rounds of shots and then got smart

> about

> it and stopped? My state has all 3 exemptions but I would use

> the

> religious one. Am I in for a battle in a few years when it's

> time for

> my daughter to go to school?

>

>

>

>

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I agree, file as many exemptions as you can. My chiro has all three

exemptions filed, and I think I'm going to follow suit.

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:26 PM, <wharrison@...> wrote:

>

> Yes, it's all or none for the religious or medical exemptions. You

shouldn't have any battle but if you do, the law is on your side.

>

> If you stopped, that's fine. You just can't have any after you file an

exemption form--doesn't matter if you had a zillion vaccines until then.

>

> I would highly encourage you to file the philosophical one on principle.

Someone went to a lot of trouble to get that law passed for you, believe me.

It entitles parents to pick and choose--not that I would choose to--but it

really speaks to our rights as parents. If my state had it, I'd use the

philosophical. Just think about it anyway.

>

> Winnie

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You see that is the way *I* feel about artificial feeding.... I realise

that a tiny minority of women are physically unable to breastfeed, but for

those who make the willing choice to artificially feed when they *can*

breastfeed, their baby is not in a position to give 100% biased and informed

consent - and they have to live with the consequences of their mothers'

*choices*.

Right, off that bandwagon, but your expression was so eloquent. :o)

Sue x

I am a firm believer that no one has the right to do anything to another

human being that could have life long negative consequences unless that

person can give 100% unbiased and fully educated consent.

A child is not in that position.

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So were they friends worth having....?

Sue x

-- Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

I have lost friends because I don't bite mine. I went through years of

hell and I know it was the vaccines that caused it. I am healthy now but

only through the grace of God and good genetics.

If I come across as over bearing and harsh it is because most people

don't get the chance to regain their health and their life the way I have.

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I am starting to see that I have very few friends where I live, but if I

stand by doing the right thing and for what I believe it all works out.

I guess my answer to your question is no.

Sue wrote:

>

> So were they friends worth having....?

>

> Sue x

>

> -- Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

>

> I have lost friends because I don't bite mine. I went through years of

> hell and I know it was the vaccines that caused it. I am healthy now but

> only through the grace of God and good genetics.

>

> If I come across as over bearing and harsh it is because most people

> don't get the chance to regain their health and their life the way I

> have.

>

>

>

>

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once you are enlightened and stop, that is it. You don't have to

share what you did before. But you cannot take a religious exemption

objecting to vaccines and then get some and not others.

Sheri

listowner

> >

> > " And all state laws require you do ALL or NONE, if there is no

> philosophical exemption. So, the first schedule does many parents no

> good. >

> >> Winnie "

>

> All state laws require all or none??? I didn't know that. Uh-oh...what

> happens if you already got 2 rounds of shots and then got smart about

> it and stopped? My state has all 3 exemptions but I would use the

> religious one. Am I in for a battle in a few years when it's time for

> my daughter to go to school?

>

>

>

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That's good to know! That means that I will be fine because I don't

ever plan on getting any more vaccines for my daughter! Thanks for

the info!

> > >

> > > " And all state laws require you do ALL or NONE, if there is no

> > philosophical exemption. So, the first schedule does many parents

no

> > good. >

> > >> Winnie "

> >

> > All state laws require all or none??? I didn't know that. Uh-

oh...what

> > happens if you already got 2 rounds of shots and then got smart

about

> > it and stopped? My state has all 3 exemptions but I would use the

> > religious one. Am I in for a battle in a few years when it's time

for

> > my daughter to go to school?

> >

> >

> >

>

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