Re:splitting up vaCcines

[Guest guest]

For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book & his website.

Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he had a lot of great info

for everyone. He even has his own schedule & btands he recommends.

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At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote:

For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book &

his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he had

a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule &

btands he recommends.

And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous.

There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will

kill or injure

I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants,

toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults.

Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe

does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so

many of you have read it and think it is true.

He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words.

Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes

you think you need to get a vaccine.

There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen)

It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system

AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the

above, you will be free.

Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you so is

leading you down a path of danger

Sheri

listowner

[Guest guest]

Sheri is 150% right. No one can prove any vaccine won't damage or kill, cells,

tissue, or organs.

Just as they can't prove that vaccines prevent any disease.

For those of you that are not on sure ground, just ask your allopath or anyone

for proof.

This should be your question. If you stick that poison(vaccine) in my or my

baby's body and we don't

get a disease, prove that the reason we didn't get the disease was because of

the vaccine.

No matter what they say you need to understand there are millions like me that

never got the vaccines and never got any serious diseases.

The simple stuff like whooping cough,munps, and chicken pox, we were simply put

to bed given a little chicken soup and allowed

our body  to take care of the problem.The kids and people who are sick and the

few that die are always being given drugs.

That's what puts their sick body over the edge. Its like adding more poison to

an already toxic system.

Jim O'

Founder of S.I.N.B.A.D.--A.D.T.

Shoys in body's are deadly and drugs too

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote:

For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book &

his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he had

a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule &

btands he recommends.

And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous.

There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will

kill or injure

I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants,

toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults.

Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe

does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so

many of you have read it and think it is true.

He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words.

Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes

you think you need to get a vaccine..

There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen)

It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system

AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the

above, you will be free.

Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you so is

leading you down a path of danger

Sheri

listowner

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Can someone tell me if anything is happening with the conscientious exemption? 

I haven't heard anything about

it.  Is it starting to move along?  Does it look as if the law might pass?

Thanks

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote:

For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book &

his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he had

a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule &

btands he recommends.

And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous.

There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will

kill or injure

I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants,

toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults.

Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe

does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so

many of you have read it and think it is true.

He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words.

Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes

you think you need to get a vaccine..

There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen)

It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system

AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the

above, you will be free.

Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you so is

leading you down a path of danger

Sheri

listowner

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jen leahy wrote:

>Can someone tell me if anything is happening with the conscientious exemption?

I haven't heard anything about

>it. Is it starting to move along? Does it look as if the law might pass?

>Thanks

>

What state are you in? Exemptions are different in every state.

Bobbett

[Guest guest]

What conscientious exemption? What state are you referring to? I'm a little

confused, Jen. You've asked a couple of times about mandates for the flu vaccine

for preschoolers vs. school aged children, and I've told you it depends on the

state you live in both times.

Now the question about " the conscientious exemption " which again depends on the

state you live in. Sorry, but am I missing something here?

Winnie

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

>

> At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote:

> For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine

> book &

> his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and

> he had

> a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule &

> btands he recommends.

>

>

>

> And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous.

> There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will

> kill or injure

>

> I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants,

> toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults.

>

> Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe

> does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so

> many of you have read it and think it is true.

> He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words.

>

> Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes

> you think you need to get a vaccine..

> There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen)

> It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system

> AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the

> above, you will be free.

>

> Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you

> so is

> leading you down a path of danger

> Sheri

> listowner

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> Be a better friend, newshound, and

> know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.

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>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

cs-mom@... writes:

Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book?

The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its the

schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at all. Here it is:

Selective Vaccination Schedule:

2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

3 months: Prevnar, Hib

4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

5 months: Prevnar, Hib

6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

7 months: Prevnar, Hib

15 months: Prevnar, Hib

5 years: Tetanus Booster

10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and hep A

immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-dose polio

series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It gives only

one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is:

Alternative Vaccine Schedule

2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

3 months: Prevnar, Hib

4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

5 months: Prevnar, Hib

6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

7 months: Prevnar, Hib

9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

12 months: Mumps, Polio

15 months: Prevnar, Hib

18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

21 months: Flu

2 years: Ruebella, Polio

2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

5 years: MMR, Flu

6 years: Chickenpox

12 years: Tdap, HPV

12 years, 2 months: HPV

13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

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In a message dated 5/3/2008 10:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

daniellehunt@... writes:

While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover

that they want to defer indefinitely.

That is what happened with my husband and me. We were a delayed/selective

vax family and one day we discovered we WILL NEVER vax our children with any

vaccinations. I respect a person’s choice what I don't respect is when parents

like my SIL don't even read or educate themselves with what vaccinations the

Dr is giving their children. In her words, well they are the Dr they know

best. HA

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[Guest guest]

Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book?

>

> For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book &

his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he had

a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule &

btands he recommends.

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote:

>For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book &

>his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he

>had a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule &

>btands he recommends.

>

>

And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous.

There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will

kill or injure

I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants,

toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults.

Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe

does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so

many of you have read it and think it is true.

He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words.

Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes

you think you need to get a vaccine.

There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen)

It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system

AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the

above, you will be free.

Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you so is

leading you down a path of danger

Sheri

listowner

>

>---------------------------------

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>Mobile. Try it now.

>

>

[Guest guest]

New Jersey

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

jen leahy wrote:

>Can someone tell me if anything is happening with the conscientious exemption?

I haven't heard anything about

>it. Is it starting to move along? Does it look as if the law might pass?

>Thanks

>

What state are you in? Exemptions are different in every state.

Bobbett

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Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their

children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim who is

going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing.

GranolaMama5@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> cs-mom@... <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> writes:

>

> Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book?

>

> The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its the

> schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at all.

> Here it is:

>

> Selective Vaccination Schedule:

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and hep A

> immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-dose

> polio

> series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

>

> The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It

> gives only

> one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is:

>

> Alternative Vaccine Schedule

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> 21 months: Flu

> 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> 5 years: MMR, Flu

> 6 years: Chickenpox

> 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

>

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[Guest guest]

I am referring to the conscientious exemption to be passed for NJ state. NJ

has 2 exemptions for vaccinations, medical and religious.  When I joined this

group,I was under the impression,

it was to inform individuals about passing the conscientious exemption law in

nj.  I don't know if you know

about the petition that was being sent around as well?

 

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

>

> At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote:

> For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine

> book &

> his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and

> he had

> a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule &

> btands he recommends.

>

>

>

> And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous.

> There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will

> kill or injure

>

> I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants,

> toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults.

>

> Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe

> does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so

> many of you have read it and think it is true.

> He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words.

>

> Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes

> you think you need to get a vaccine..

> There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen)

> It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system

> AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the

> above, you will be free.

>

> Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you

> so is

> leading you down a path of danger

> Sheri

> listowner

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

I am in new jersey also (bergen county)...

I believe you are asking about the status of the " philosophical exemption " ... if

I am assuming correctly, as far as I know the bill is still on the table.

it has not been determined yet.  We are hoping it is considered soon.

As for myself, i do not belong to " organized religion "  but do not have any

reservation using the " religious " exemption in order to protect my family.  I

suppose if passed the philosophical exemption will give parents who do not feel

comfortable claiming a " religious " exemption other options.  I personally feel

more protected using the " religious " exemption as it is supported by the first

constitutional amendment(freedom of religion).  I am not sure if a philophical

exemption would be looked at in the same manner or  receive the same protection

should bigpHARMa and the powers that be choose to change things.  I could be

wrong though but that is just my take, based on how more and more of our " so

called " rights are being taken away.  

 

Arianna Mojica-   (UCC 1-207/1-103) 

~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

jen leahy wrote:

>Can someone tell me if anything is happening with the conscientious exemption?

I haven't heard anything about

>it. Is it starting to move along? Does it look as if the law might pass?

>Thanks

>

What state are you in? Exemptions are different in every state.

Bobbett

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While we don't vax I do respect those that decide that it is best for their

family. People need to make their own decision based on their fear of

vaccines versus fear of diseases and not be judged for their decision.

While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover

that they want to defer indefinitely.

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Behalf Of FORCED ANARCHY

Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:51 PM

Vaccinations

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Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their

children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim who is

going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing.

GranolaMama5@ <mailto:GranolaMama5%40aol.com> aol.com wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> cs-momhotmail (DOT) <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> com

<mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> writes:

>

> Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book?

>

> The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its the

> schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at all.

> Here it is:

>

> Selective Vaccination Schedule:

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and hep A

> immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-dose

> polio

> series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

>

> The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It

> gives only

> one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is:

>

> Alternative Vaccine Schedule

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> 21 months: Flu

> 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> 5 years: MMR, Flu

> 6 years: Chickenpox

> 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

>

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[Guest guest]

I partially agree with you because I was one of those people like your SIL

with my first born and I can’t keep beating myself up for it. I was naïve

and did feel that Drs. Knew best at that time and it took one thing to

change my way of thinking. I actually don’t judge people for making

decisions as I hope people do not judge me for making mine. I am one of 2

people in my group of friends who do not vax and I feel lucky that our

friendships do not change. For many years we (parents) have been told and

treated that we are not capable of taking care of own children and some

still believe that.

I think it is a responsibility issue when anyone chooses to do anything

without researching their options whether it is vaxing, not vaxing, or

buying a car. What works for one may not work for others and only you are

held responsibility if your decision ends up being the incorrect one.

I guess I do judge (of course not outwardly though) people in the sense that

they need to take a more proactive stance in their life instead of sitting

back and riding the coattails of others..

le

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Vaccinations

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In a message dated 5/3/2008 10:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

daniellehunt@ <mailto:daniellehunt%40comcast.net> comcast.net writes:

While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover

that they want to defer indefinitely.

That is what happened with my husband and me. We were a delayed/selective

vax family and one day we discovered we WILL NEVER vax our children with any

vaccinations. I respect a person’s choice what I don't respect is when

parents

like my SIL don't even read or educate themselves with what vaccinations the

Dr is giving their children. In her words, well they are the Dr they know

best. HA

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[Guest guest]

Wow! Way too much in my opinion! Especially for Rotovirus. That

wasn't even around when my son was born, and he never had it or

anything close to it. Oh well, just my opinion. Thanks for posting

his suggestions.

>

>

> In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> cs-mom@... writes:

>

> Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the

whole book?

>

>

>

> The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its

the

> schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at

all. Here it is:

>

> Selective Vaccination Schedule:

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox

and hep A

> immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-

dose polio

> series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

>

> The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It

gives only

> one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it

is:

>

> Alternative Vaccine Schedule

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> 21 months: Flu

> 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> 5 years: MMR, Flu

> 6 years: Chickenpox

> 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm stunned out of all of the vaccines out there, he thinks rotavirus, Prevnar

and Hib are critical. Glad to see he doesn't like to give newborns and young

children Hep B, though. And are they back to making separate MMR vaccines to fit

his alternative schedule? I thought not.

While he puts down three Dtap's, the fact is the law (at least here) requires

four. And all state laws require you do ALL or NONE, if there is no

philosophical exemption. So, the first schedule does many parents no good.

This might address need and safety (in his mind), but it does not address the

issue of effectiveness. It's not guaranteed, so why get them at all?

Winnie

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

Vaccinations

>

> In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> cs-mom@... writes:

>

> Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the

> whole book?

>

>

>

> The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum.

> Its the

> schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at

> all. Here it is:

>

> Selective Vaccination Schedule:

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox

> and hep A

> immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-

> dose polio

> series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

>

> The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out.

> It gives only

> one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here

> it is:

>

> Alternative Vaccine Schedule

>

> 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> 21 months: Flu

> 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> 5 years: MMR, Flu

> 6 years: Chickenpox

> 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

>

>

>

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This one is a hard one for me, I honestly put forcing vaccines upon a

child in the same category as allowing your child to be strapped down

and forced to drink multiple types of poison.

Same deadly life altering toxins, just a different method of input!

le Hunt wrote:

>

> While we don't vax I do respect those that decide that it is best for

> their

> family. People need to make their own decision based on their fear of

> vaccines versus fear of diseases and not be judged for their decision.

> While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover

> that they want to defer indefinitely.

>

> _____

>

> From: Vaccinations

> <mailto:Vaccinations%40>

> [mailto:Vaccinations

> <mailto:Vaccinations%40>] On

> Behalf Of FORCED ANARCHY

> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:51 PM

> Vaccinations <mailto:Vaccinations%40>

> Subject: Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

>

> Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their

> children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim who is

> going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing.

>

> GranolaMama5@ <mailto:GranolaMama5%40aol.com> aol.com wrote:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > cs-momhotmail (DOT) <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> com

> <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> writes:

> >

> > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book?

> >

> > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its the

> > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at all.

> > Here it is:

> >

> > Selective Vaccination Schedule:

> >

> > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and hep A

> > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-dose

> > polio

> > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

> >

> > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It

> > gives only

> > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is:

> >

> > Alternative Vaccine Schedule

> >

> > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> > 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> > 21 months: Flu

> > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> > 5 years: MMR, Flu

> > 6 years: Chickenpox

> > 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> > 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

> >

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> >

> >

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My prayer is always that people wake up and see the harm vaccines can

do. This is why I spend all of my free time online trying to educate

others and find support for my documentary.

I am so glad to hear you moved from selective vax to non vax.

GranolaMama5@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 5/3/2008 10:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> daniellehunt@... <mailto:daniellehunt%40comcast.net> writes:

>

> While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover

> that they want to defer indefinitely.

>

> That is what happened with my husband and me. We were a delayed/selective

> vax family and one day we discovered we WILL NEVER vax our children

> with any

> vaccinations. I respect a person’s choice what I don't respect is

> when parents

> like my SIL don't even read or educate themselves with what

> vaccinations the

> Dr is giving their children. In her words, well they are the Dr they know

> best. HA

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[Guest guest]

I agree, le, in that people have to make decisions based on their comfort

level--even if they don't research it to the degree we might. Only that family

will live with the consequences of their decisions.

When it comes to selectively vaccinating, though, Dr. Sears schedules are merely

opinions. I hope people realize that they do not have to follow it to the

letter, or that jsut because he's open to modified schedules, that means it is a

good one. If I had to pick a selective vaccination schedule, you can bet I would

not pick anything with pertussis in it for any age group.

I do like his blood test suggestion. Very good idea.

Winnie

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

>

>

>

> Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their

> children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim

> who is

> going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing.

>

> GranolaMama5@ aol.com wrote:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > cs-momhotmail (DOT) com

> writes:

> >

> > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the

> whole book?

> >

> > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum.

> Its the

> > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at

> all.

> > Here it is:

> >

> > Selective Vaccination Schedule:

> >

> > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox

> and hep A

> > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a

> 3-dose

> > polio

> > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

> >

> > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out.

> It

> > gives only

> > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here

> it is:

> >

> > Alternative Vaccine Schedule

> >

> > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> > 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> > 21 months: Flu

> > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> > 5 years: MMR, Flu

> > 6 years: Chickenpox

> > 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> > 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

> >

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> twists on

> > family

> > favorites at AOL Food.

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> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Oh, okay now I see why you said that. I've seen a few petitions, but don't

remember NJ in particular. That would be great, especially since NJ (where I

grew up, by the way) seems to be very strict about vaccine mandates. With such a

huge population, that would be real progress to get a conscientious exemption

there.

Winnie

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

> >

> > At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote:

> > For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine

> > book &

> > his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak

> and

> > he had

> > a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule &

> > btands he recommends.

> >

> >

> >

> > And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous.

> > There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will

> > kill or injure

> >

> > I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants,

> > toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults.

> >

> > Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe

> > does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous

> as so

> > many of you have read it and think it is true.

> > He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words.

> >

> > Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes

> > you think you need to get a vaccine..

> > There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria

> (antigen)> It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system

> > AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all

> of the

> > above, you will be free.

> >

> > Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you

> > so is

> > leading you down a path of danger

> > Sheri

> > listowner

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[Guest guest]

What about the life altering repercussions that happen when a child

becomes vaccine injured?

I believe in the rights of families,but there is a limit.

I am a firm believer that no one has the right to do anything to another

human being that could have life long negative consequences unless that

person can give 100% unbiased and fully educated consent.

A child is not in that position.

wharrison@... wrote:

>

> I agree, le, in that people have to make decisions based on

> their comfort level--even if they don't research it to the degree we

> might. Only that family will live with the consequences of their

> decisions.

>

> When it comes to selectively vaccinating, though, Dr. Sears schedules

> are merely opinions. I hope people realize that they do not have to

> follow it to the letter, or that jsut because he's open to modified

> schedules, that means it is a good one. If I had to pick a selective

> vaccination schedule, you can bet I would not pick anything with

> pertussis in it for any age group.

>

> I do like his blood test suggestion. Very good idea.

>

> Winnie

>

> Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

> >

> >

> >

> > Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their

> > children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim

> > who is

> > going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing.

> >

> > GranolaMama5@ aol.com wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > cs-momhotmail (DOT) com

> > writes:

> > >

> > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the

> > whole book?

> > >

> > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum.

> > Its the

> > > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at

> > all.

> > > Here it is:

> > >

> > > Selective Vaccination Schedule:

> > >

> > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> > > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox

> > and hep A

> > > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a

> > 3-dose

> > > polio

> > > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> > > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> > > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

> > >

> > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out.

> > It

> > > gives only

> > > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here

> > it is:

> > >

> > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule

> > >

> > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> > > 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> > > 21 months: Flu

> > > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> > > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> > > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> > > 5 years: MMR, Flu

> > > 6 years: Chickenpox

> > > 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> > > 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> > > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

> > >

> > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new

> > twists on

> > > family

> > > favorites at AOL Food.

> > > (http://food.

> >

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> > > >

> > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>)

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

You are right, Ari. The religious exemption is extremely important because of

the reasons you gave. If anyone ever thought the philosophical was more

important and we lost the religious one, we'd be in big trouble.

Winnie

Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines

>

> jen leahy wrote:

>

> >Can someone tell me if anything is happening with the

> conscientious exemption? I haven't heard anything about

> >it. Is it starting to move along? Does it look as if the law

> might pass?

> >Thanks

> >

> What state are you in? Exemptions are different in every state.

>

> Bobbett

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[Guest guest]

Right, but that goes both ways. Do we want the government claiming that not

vaccinating our kids is hurting them? It has to be up to the parents to accept

or reject the intense marketing tactics of these pharmaceutical companies.

It's hard to watch, though, I know. Makes me sick when I see friends of my kids

going for their shots. I have to bite my tongue.

Winnie

Re:

> Re:splitting up vaCcines

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their

> > > children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim

> > > who is

> > > going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing.

> > >

> > > GranolaMama5@ aol.com wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > > cs-momhotmail (DOT) com

> > > writes:

> > > >

> > > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the

> > > whole book?

> > > >

> > > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum.

> > > Its the

> > > > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not

> vax at

> > > all.

> > > > Here it is:

> > > >

> > > > Selective Vaccination Schedule:

> > > >

> > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > 5 years: Tetanus Booster

> > > > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox

> > > and hep A

> > > > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also

> consider a

> > > 3-dose

> > > > polio

> > > > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity

> > > > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only)

> > > > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses)

> > > >

> > > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out.

> > > It

> > > > gives only

> > > > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here

> > > it is:

> > > >

> > > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule

> > > >

> > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus

> > > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time)

> > > > 12 months: Mumps, Polio

> > > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib

> > > > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox

> > > > 21 months: Flu

> > > > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio

> > > > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > > > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu

> > > > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A

> > > > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu

> > > > 5 years: MMR, Flu

> > > > 6 years: Chickenpox

> > > > 12 years: Tdap, HPV

> > > > 12 years, 2 months: HPV

> > > > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal

> > > >

> > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new

> > > twists on

> > > > family

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