Guest guest Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Hi everybody! I am so happy that I have some comparisons to make here... I have been reading through a few posts since my subscription to your group and I can find a lot of similarities with my son. From a smiling little boy who knew how to speak and count very young,we are going through a nightmare. He said to today that he wished that he would be autistic, so he could hide himself in his little world. ***************Welcome, I’ll I can tell you is my son was sweet as well until his Ps. experience. We took him out in fifth grade as the handwriting was on the wall, and he was going down hill fast. I know this is not an option for everyone. From talking with people and being in e-mail groups I have noticed the kids with higher IQ’s, Asperger’s, do best in small group, alternative settings. I can tell you, that one boy I know of was a different kid in a week of being in an alternative, small private school. The school is only 20 kids, all ages. In the AM the kids have work assigned to their individual needs and in the afternoon they all participate in art, music, theatre something like this. By chance is there anything like this in your area? Some schools have scholarships available. Sometimes if the PS. can not meet the child’s needs, and will admit this , they will pay. You might want to call a meeting before school gets out and be honest about the situation, and ask the group for ideas on how to go about helping your son. Go in with a let’s work together attitude. If this does not produce any satisfactory results then you write a formal letter stating you will be contacting your state(province?) civil rights organization. In Vt. any complaint to the State Civil Rights board must be investigated by a State lawyer. Complaints are taken seriously. If you do write you need to list problems very clearly and get to the point. My husband who works for the State, says to clearly state what has gone on. Civil Rights offices are very busy and you need to make your concerns clear and also have options in mind. I am not sure you are at this point but I am putting this out for others as well. Time and time again I have seen the schools that seem to work for these kids seem to be very small, alternative(Not for behavior problem kids) or Home School. Check out www.orionacademy.org If I were in Calif. and could afford it, this is where my son would be. We have a school in Vt. ,Rutland Learning Cnt., which I know parents have been happy with when their kids were going down fast. There are 20 kids in the school. Check into the alternatives, as it doesn’t sound like where your son is at now is going to work……Gail, ,12 Life is not easy...We have been in touch with a couple of people, but they were not assessing AS. In the mean time, life is not easy. Anybody in Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Thanks Gail for the encouragement. We have found out yesterday that he skipped school. What disturbs me is that the school has not called us as they usually do. He told me that he did not want to go,because of this and that. What disturbs me the most is that he tried to make me believe that he went. He usually does not do that. I read yesterday an article saying that kids with autistic problem should abstain from gluten and dairies and sweets and cafeine. Well, the problem is that this is almost all the foods that he likes and we have no way to control him. About alternative schools, I did research it and it does not seem that there are any in our district. I know that it would work better for him. Yesterday was really frustating. The insults that came out of his mouth are unbearable. Sometime, I feel so depressed ... Still,until I am sure that this is really the problem he has, I am wondering still if he does not have simply difficult times in his adolescence. There are a few things that seem a bit different. Gail, can you describe your son`s character if it is not too much to ask? It would help me tremendously. Lolo We have found out aht > > > Hi everybody! > I am so happy that I have some comparisons to make here... > I have been reading through a few posts since my subscription to your > group and I can find a lot of similarities with my son. > > > From a smiling little boy who knew how to speak and count very > young,we are going through a nightmare. > He said to today that he wished that he would be autistic, so he > could hide himself in his little world. > > ***************Welcome, I'll I can tell you is my son was sweet as well > until his Ps. experience. We took him out in fifth grade as the > handwriting was on the wall, and he was going down hill fast. I know > this is not an option for everyone. From talking with people and being > in e-mail groups I have noticed the kids with higher IQ's, Asperger's, > do best in small group, alternative settings. I can tell you, that one > boy I know of was a different kid in a week of being in an alternative, > small private school. The school is only 20 kids, all ages. In the AM > the kids have work assigned to their individual needs and in the > afternoon they all participate in art, music, theatre something like > this. By chance is there anything like this in your area? Some schools > have scholarships available. Sometimes if the PS. can not meet the > child's needs, and will admit this , they will pay. You might want to > call a meeting before school gets out and be honest about the situation, > and ask the group for ideas on how to go about helping your son. Go in > with a let's work together attitude. If this does not produce any > satisfactory results then you write a formal letter stating you will be > contacting your state(province?) civil rights organization. In Vt. any > complaint to the State Civil Rights board must be investigated by a > State lawyer. Complaints are taken seriously. If you do write you need > to list problems very clearly and get to the point. My husband who works > for the State, says to clearly state what has gone on. Civil Rights > offices are very busy and you need to make your concerns clear and also > have options in mind. I am not sure you are at this point but I am > putting this out for others as well. Time and time again I have seen the > schools that seem to work for these kids seem to be very small, > alternative(Not for behavior problem kids) or Home School. Check out > www.orionacademy.org <http://www.orionacademy.org/> If I were in Calif. > and could afford it, this is where my son would be. We have a school in > Vt. ,Rutland Learning Cnt., which I know parents have been happy with > when their kids were going down fast. There are 20 kids in the school. > Check into the alternatives, as it doesn't sound like where your son is > at now is going to work..Gail, ,12 > > > Life is not easy...We have been in touch with a couple of people, but > they were not assessing AS. > In the mean time, life is not easy. > Anybody in Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Lolo I dont know if you have tried it already or have even heard about it. Have you tried cod liver oil or vitamin therapy?? My son is on a supplement called Behavior Balance and is taking Cod liver oil and we have seen tremendous improvement in his mood, repetative behaviors, coping skills, etc.. It is definately worth looking into. He is much calmer and happier and is not constantly telling me the same things over and over again which is nice for me . Definately look into it... It may help but speak with your sons doctor about supplementation.. Good Luck!! in Lancaster, Ca lolo52 <lolo52@...> wrote: Thanks Gail for the encouragement. We have found out yesterday that he skipped school. What disturbs me is that the school has not called us as they usually do.He told me that he did not want to go,because of this and that.What disturbs me the most is that he tried to make me believe that he went. He usually does not do that.I read yesterday an article saying that kids with autistic problem should abstain from gluten and dairies and sweets and cafeine.Well, the problem is that this is almost all the foods that he likes and we have no way to control him.About alternative schools, I did research it and it does not seem that there are any in our district.I know that it would work better for him.Yesterday was really frustating. The insults that came out of his mouth are unbearable. Sometime, I feel so depressed ....Still,until I am sure that this is really the problem he has, I am wondering still if he does not have simply difficult times in his adolescence. There are a few things that seem a bit different.Gail, can you describe your son`s character if it is not too much to ask? It would help me tremendously.LoloWe have found out aht> > > Hi everybody!> I am so happy that I have some comparisons to make here...> I have been reading through a few posts since my subscription to your > group and I can find a lot of similarities with my son.> > > From a smiling little boy who knew how to speak and count very > young,we are going through a nightmare.> He said to today that he wished that he would be autistic, so he > could hide himself in his little world.> > ***************Welcome, I'll I can tell you is my son was sweet as well> until his Ps. experience. We took him out in fifth grade as the> handwriting was on the wall, and he was going down hill fast. I know> this is not an option for everyone. From talking with people and being> in e-mail groups I have noticed the kids with higher IQ's, Asperger's,> do best in small group, alternative settings. I can tell you, that one> boy I know of was a different kid in a week of being in an alternative,> small private school. The school is only 20 kids, all ages. In the AM> the kids have work assigned to their individual needs and in the> afternoon they all participate in art, music, theatre something like> this. By chance is there anything like this in your area? Some schools> have scholarships available. Sometimes if the PS. can not meet the> child's needs, and will admit this , they will pay. You might want to> call a meeting before school gets out and be honest about the situation,> and ask the group for ideas on how to go about helping your son. Go in> with a let's work together attitude. If this does not produce any> satisfactory results then you write a formal letter stating you will be> contacting your state(province?) civil rights organization. In Vt. any> complaint to the State Civil Rights board must be investigated by a> State lawyer. Complaints are taken seriously. If you do write you need> to list problems very clearly and get to the point. My husband who works> for the State, says to clearly state what has gone on. Civil Rights> offices are very busy and you need to make your concerns clear and also> have options in mind. I am not sure you are at this point but I am> putting this out for others as well. Time and time again I have seen the> schools that seem to work for these kids seem to be very small,> alternative(Not for behavior problem kids) or Home School. Check out> www.orionacademy.org <http://www.orionacademy.org/> If I were in Calif.> and could afford it, this is where my son would be. We have a school in> Vt. ,Rutland Learning Cnt., which I know parents have been happy with> when their kids were going down fast. There are 20 kids in the school.> Check into the alternatives, as it doesn't sound like where your son is> at now is going to work..Gail, ,12 > > > Life is not easy...We have been in touch with a couple of people, but > they were not assessing AS.> In the mean time, life is not easy.> Anybody in Canada?__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 I have bought some cod liver at one point, it is still in my pantry with a bunch of other vitamins. I tried to give it to him,but I have found out that he was spitting them out. Is it only cod oil that you are giving, what else is part of that system? Lolo > > > > > > Hi everybody! > > I am so happy that I have some comparisons to make here... > > I have been reading through a few posts since my subscription to > your > > group and I can find a lot of similarities with my son. > > > > > > From a smiling little boy who knew how to speak and count very > > young,we are going through a nightmare. > > He said to today that he wished that he would be autistic, so he > > could hide himself in his little world. > > > > ***************Welcome, I'll I can tell you is my son was sweet as > well > > until his Ps. experience. We took him out in fifth grade as the > > handwriting was on the wall, and he was going down hill fast. I know > > this is not an option for everyone. From talking with people and > being > > in e-mail groups I have noticed the kids with higher IQ's, > Asperger's, > > do best in small group, alternative settings. I can tell you, that > one > > boy I know of was a different kid in a week of being in an > alternative, > > small private school. The school is only 20 kids, all ages. In the > AM > > the kids have work assigned to their individual needs and in the > > afternoon they all participate in art, music, theatre something like > > this. By chance is there anything like this in your area? Some > schools > > have scholarships available. Sometimes if the PS. can not meet the > > child's needs, and will admit this , they will pay. You might want > to > > call a meeting before school gets out and be honest about the > situation, > > and ask the group for ideas on how to go about helping your son. Go > in > > with a let's work together attitude. If this does not produce any > > satisfactory results then you write a formal letter stating you > will be > > contacting your state(province?) civil rights organization. In Vt. > any > > complaint to the State Civil Rights board must be investigated by a > > State lawyer. Complaints are taken seriously. If you do write you > need > > to list problems very clearly and get to the point. My husband who > works > > for the State, says to clearly state what has gone on. Civil Rights > > offices are very busy and you need to make your concerns clear and > also > > have options in mind. I am not sure you are at this point but I am > > putting this out for others as well. Time and time again I have > seen the > > schools that seem to work for these kids seem to be very small, > > alternative(Not for behavior problem kids) or Home School. Check out > > www.orionacademy.org <http://www.orionacademy.org/> If I were in > Calif. > > and could afford it, this is where my son would be. We have a > school in > > Vt. ,Rutland Learning Cnt., which I know parents have been happy > with > > when their kids were going down fast. There are 20 kids in the > school. > > Check into the alternatives, as it doesn't sound like where your > son is > > at now is going to work..Gail, ,12 > > > > > > Life is not easy...We have been in touch with a couple of people, > but > > they were not assessing AS. > > In the mean time, life is not easy. > > Anybody in Canada? > > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 It is hard to get it down but he takes it. I ususally mix it in a yogurt beverage. He doesnt really notice it that way. I am also giving him a supplement called Behavior Balance. He seems to be doing better with these 2 additions. Not as repetative thats for sure. He is calmer and sleeps better as well. Although I do also have him on an excercise regimen as well. He runs on the treadmill for about 40 minutes a day. It burns up alot of his pent up energy. We have noticed less mood swings since he started that. I just pop a tv in front of him, put on "The Incredibles" and he just runs his little butt off. You may want to consider easing him into some kind of physical activity as well. He has had the most improvement since we have started doing these 3 things. Cod liver oil, Behavior balance and rigorous excercise. Its worth a shot. Initially starting it is difficult but once it becomes part of the daily routine it is no problem... Hope this helps if you decide to try it. in Lancaster, Calolo52 <lolo52@...> wrote: I have bought some cod liver at one point, it is still in my pantry with a bunch of other vitamins. I tried to give it to him,but I have found out that he was spitting them out.Is it only cod oil that you are giving, what else is part of that system?Lolo> > > > > > Hi everybody!> > I am so happy that I have some comparisons to make here...> > I have been reading through a few posts since my subscription to > your > > group and I can find a lot of similarities with my son.> > > > > > From a smiling little boy who knew how to speak and count very > > young,we are going through a nightmare.> > He said to today that he wished that he would be autistic, so he > > could hide himself in his little world.> > > > ***************Welcome, I'll I can tell you is my son was sweet as > well> > until his Ps. experience. We took him out in fifth grade as the> > handwriting was on the wall, and he was going down hill fast. I know> > this is not an option for everyone. From talking with people and > being> > in e-mail groups I have noticed the kids with higher IQ's, > Asperger's,> > do best in small group, alternative settings. I can tell you, that > one> > boy I know of was a different kid in a week of being in an > alternative,> > small private school. The school is only 20 kids, all ages. In the > AM> > the kids have work assigned to their individual needs and in the> > afternoon they all participate in art, music, theatre something like> > this. By chance is there anything like this in your area? Some > schools> > have scholarships available. Sometimes if the PS. can not meet the> > child's needs, and will admit this , they will pay. You might want > to> > call a meeting before school gets out and be honest about the > situation,> > and ask the group for ideas on how to go about helping your son. Go > in> > with a let's work together attitude. If this does not produce any> > satisfactory results then you write a formal letter stating you > will be> > contacting your state(province?) civil rights organization. In Vt. > any> > complaint to the State Civil Rights board must be investigated by a> > State lawyer. Complaints are taken seriously. If you do write you > need> > to list problems very clearly and get to the point. My husband who > works> > for the State, says to clearly state what has gone on. Civil Rights> > offices are very busy and you need to make your concerns clear and > also> > have options in mind. I am not sure you are at this point but I am> > putting this out for others as well. Time and time again I have > seen the> > schools that seem to work for these kids seem to be very small,> > alternative(Not for behavior problem kids) or Home School. Check out> > www.orionacademy.org <http://www.orionacademy.org/> If I were in > Calif.> > and could afford it, this is where my son would be. We have a > school in> > Vt. ,Rutland Learning Cnt., which I know parents have been happy > with> > when their kids were going down fast. There are 20 kids in the > school.> > Check into the alternatives, as it doesn't sound like where your > son is> > at now is going to work..Gail, ,12 > > > > > > Life is not easy...We have been in touch with a couple of people, > but > > they were not assessing AS.> > In the mean time, life is not easy.> > Anybody in Canada?> > > > > ---------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 If it is just for the Omega 3's then flax oil is a good alternative. It doesn't taste good but it is better than fish oil.lolo52 <lolo52@...> wrote: I have bought some cod liver at one point, Carol, mom to , 3/14/94 , 2/18/97 Lily, 9/7/04__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Not just for the Omega 3's which are great but also for the vitamin A. Some of these kids dont readily absorb other forms of it. carol sobczak <cpsobczak@...> wrote: If it is just for the Omega 3's then flax oil is a good alternative. It doesn't taste good but it is better than fish oil.lolo52 <lolo52@...> wrote: I have bought some cod liver at one point, Carol, mom to , 3/14/94 , 2/18/97 Lily, 9/7/04 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Re: The Blame Game Still, until I am sure that this is really the problem he has, I am wondering still if he does not have simply difficult times in his adolescence. There are a few things that seem a bit different. Gail, can you describe your son`s character if it is not too much to ask? It would help me tremendously. Lolo ***************Hi Lolo, just getting back to you as has been very sick for the past 5 days. He is coming around today and is on an anti-biotic. When he is sick he likes me to “sit” with him. I sure am behind in work, but watching Gunsmoke reruns from the 60’s was actually nice to do. You asked about his character. He was not diagnosed until almost 10 and as soon as I read up on Asperger’s I said, sounds just like . However, he is very social if he likes the person. He fit the ‘little professor’ image and the rule follower. From a very young age he had special interests and learned everything he could about them. Did your son do this? At 4 it was the solar system, tanks, anatomy. Before that was Tank and trains at 1 year on for quite some time. He lined up his toys, especially soldiers. He would make what he called ‘set ups’. Of course once they were complete no one was supposed to move them. He was quiet, serious and sensitive. Skipping forward at almost 13 he is still a nice boy. However, he is apt to see ”the glass half full”. He has no tolerance for little kids and calls them “little twerps”. He sputters under his breathe about them, and if they speak to him he usually will say nothing. He tells me “it’s better that way”. At 12 he does stand out more so as different when there are group dynamics going on. If he had continued in P.S. he would have been in trouble, because he was to the point of not taking bull anymore. The Principal and teachers have told me they miss him, but he seems much better. He does complain a lot. He complains about almost everything I give him for school work, but then we compromise and he does the work and actually enjoys some of it. He loves to read so I am very lucky as certain subjects like History he just does because he is interested. He does get very nerved up even when he is enjoying himself. Therefore I can not picture him in P.S. The music teacher asked him to play the theme song to the Flintstones the other day and he refused (hates the song). The teacher was OK with this and is very tolerant of ’s ways. What are your sons interests? Could the school work off these or are they and your son to busy butting heads right now? I feel bad for your son. He needs a different program. Is there anyone at the school he likes? Just wondering if he could sit down and work out a plan for his education. He’s at the age that trying to force him most likely won’t work. Would he outline something for you? When was in 4th grade and crashing we asked him to write a couple thoughts he had on how to make school better for him. He wrote “teach me something I don’t already know”. It was really quite sad. I bet your son feels like this. What grade is he in? My best, Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Thanks for the tips. I have been giving him the cod oil for two days now and he is taking it... I told him it was good for his brain,so it works for now. Exercise wise, it would be a bit more difficult. He likes biking but as he does not have many friends, and he does not want to go alone, his exercise level has gone down. I don't own a stationary bike, but it could be a good idea. Lorraine > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody! > > > I am so happy that I have some comparisons to make here... > > > I have been reading through a few posts since my subscription to > > your > > > group and I can find a lot of similarities with my son. > > > > > > > > > From a smiling little boy who knew how to speak and count very > > > young,we are going through a nightmare. > > > He said to today that he wished that he would be autistic, so he > > > could hide himself in his little world. > > > > > > ***************Welcome, I'll I can tell you is my son was sweet > as > > well > > > until his Ps. experience. We took him out in fifth grade as the > > > handwriting was on the wall, and he was going down hill fast. I > know > > > this is not an option for everyone. From talking with people and > > being > > > in e-mail groups I have noticed the kids with higher IQ's, > > Asperger's, > > > do best in small group, alternative settings. I can tell you, > that > > one > > > boy I know of was a different kid in a week of being in an > > alternative, > > > small private school. The school is only 20 kids, all ages. In > the > > AM > > > the kids have work assigned to their individual needs and in the > > > afternoon they all participate in art, music, theatre something > like > > > this. By chance is there anything like this in your area? Some > > schools > > > have scholarships available. Sometimes if the PS. can not meet the > > > child's needs, and will admit this , they will pay. You might > want > > to > > > call a meeting before school gets out and be honest about the > > situation, > > > and ask the group for ideas on how to go about helping your son. > Go > > in > > > with a let's work together attitude. If this does not produce any > > > satisfactory results then you write a formal letter stating you > > will be > > > contacting your state(province?) civil rights organization. In > Vt. > > any > > > complaint to the State Civil Rights board must be investigated by > a > > > State lawyer. Complaints are taken seriously. If you do write you > > need > > > to list problems very clearly and get to the point. My husband > who > > works > > > for the State, says to clearly state what has gone on. Civil > Rights > > > offices are very busy and you need to make your concerns clear > and > > also > > > have options in mind. I am not sure you are at this point but I am > > > putting this out for others as well. Time and time again I have > > seen the > > > schools that seem to work for these kids seem to be very small, > > > alternative(Not for behavior problem kids) or Home School. Check > out > > > www.orionacademy.org <http://www.orionacademy.org/> If I were in > > Calif. > > > and could afford it, this is where my son would be. We have a > > school in > > > Vt. ,Rutland Learning Cnt., which I know parents have been happy > > with > > > when their kids were going down fast. There are 20 kids in the > > school. > > > Check into the alternatives, as it doesn't sound like where your > > son is > > > at now is going to work..Gail, ,12 > > > > > > > > > Life is not easy...We have been in touch with a couple of people, > > but > > > they were not assessing AS. > > > In the mean time, life is not easy. > > > Anybody in Canada? > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Hi Gail, I see a lot of similarities in our two boys. When he was young, before I sent him to daycare for the three first years, he was the happiest kid in the world. He was into ``The Land before time``movies. One day,he just repeated the whole movie, scene after scene with intonations and dialogues. We were simply amazed. From that, he got very deep in dinosaurs, knew everything about it, then it was volcanoes. For the last two years up until this year, he was playing historical,strategic games, he knew everything about Greek civilizations, Roman,etc... and he was impressing the teachers: English and History teachers. That is when,last year they asked us to have him evaluated for IQ. He wrote a long story about fictive civilizations, but was not happy with the results, he is very critical of himself. It was still going pretty good in school last year, because he liked most of the teachers and respected their knowledge. The tests at the psychologist revealed that he had High verbal skills and very high memory skills, but could not understand social issues,that he was very aloof and if he did not recognize intelligence, he would not request help from adults. When we had been made aware of Asperger`s syndrome, we called the psychologist to ask if that would have not been overlooked, and they said catergorically, that he did not fit the character of an AS. So, we forgot about it. This year, with teenage, he wants justice and wants everybody who has been bullying him to pay for what they did. So, he has bouts of anger,because most of the time he does takes his fits at home,but also he did have fits in school with teachers who don't seem to respect him and other students who have been bullying him. He is always the one to get caught,because he is not subtle, but straightforward. Right now, his interests are in some boards on the web, where people do not know who he is and how old he is: he talks about his topics of interest without restriction: Religion,History,and video games. He still plays with legos to my horror. His bedroom is like a battlefield with soldiers and pieces all over the floor. He builds his society with legos and has control over his world. He has only one friend who comes from time to time in the week-end. He thinks that he is not at his level intellectually,but at least he is looking up to him and don't put him down. He really wants to have friends, and yes another thing, he does not like girls. Well, does not feel comfortable at all with them. I would not be surprised if he was going to remain single. I know it is a bit early,but. We have seen a school this week which is an alternative school,small classes, but they do not have any room for September. They have a waiting list, so we will go for it. It would be the best. Thanks girls for listening to me in my bad English ( French is my first language !!!) Lolo > > Re: The Blame Game > > Still, until I am sure that this is really the problem he has, I am > wondering still if he does not have simply difficult times in his > adolescence. There are a few things that seem a bit different. > Gail, can you describe your son`s character if it is not too much to > ask? It would help me tremendously. > Lolo > > > ***************Hi Lolo, just getting back to you as has been very > sick for the past 5 days. He is coming around today and is on an > anti-biotic. When he is sick he likes me to " sit " with him. I sure am > behind in work, but watching Gunsmoke reruns from the 60's was actually > nice to do. You asked about his character. He was not diagnosed until > almost 10 and as soon as I read up on Asperger's I said, sounds just > like . However, he is very social if he likes the person. He fit the > 'little professor' image and the rule follower. From a very young age he > had special interests and learned everything he could about them. Did > your son do this? At 4 it was the solar system, tanks, anatomy. Before > that was Tank and trains at 1 year on for quite some time. He > lined up his toys, especially soldiers. He would make what he called > 'set ups'. Of course once they were complete no one was supposed to move > them. He was quiet, serious and sensitive. Skipping forward at almost 13 > he is still a nice boy. However, he is apt to see " the glass half full " . > He has no tolerance for little kids and calls them " little twerps " . He > sputters under his breathe about them, and if they speak to him he > usually will say nothing. He tells me " it's better that way " . At 12 he > does stand out more so as different when there are group dynamics going > on. If he had continued in P.S. he would have been in trouble, because > he was to the point of not taking bull anymore. The Principal and > teachers have told me they miss him, but he seems much better. He does > complain a lot. He complains about almost everything I give him for > school work, but then we compromise and he does the work and actually > enjoys some of it. He loves to read so I am very lucky as certain > subjects like History he just does because he is interested. He does get > very nerved up even when he is enjoying himself. Therefore I can not > picture him in P.S. The music teacher asked him to play the theme song > to the Flintstones the other day and he refused (hates the song). The > teacher was OK with this and is very tolerant of 's ways. What are > your sons interests? Could the school work off these or are they and > your son to busy butting heads right now? I feel bad for your son. He > needs a different program. Is there anyone at the school he likes? Just > wondering if he could sit down and work out a plan for his education. > He's at the age that trying to force him most likely won't work. Would > he outline something for you? When was in 4th grade and crashing we > asked him to write a couple thoughts he had on how to make school better > for him. He wrote " teach me something I don't already know " . It was > really quite sad. I bet your son feels like this. What grade is he in? > My best, Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Oh geez..... dont get my son started on volcanoes.......................... I think he can name every volcano on the planet.... active that is....... in Lancaster, Calolo52 <lolo52@...> wrote: Hi Gail,I see a lot of similarities in our two boys.When he was young, before I sent him to daycare for the three first years, he was the happiest kid in the world.He was into ``The Land before time``movies. One day,he just repeated the whole movie, scene after scene with intonations and dialogues. We were simply amazed. From that, he got very deep in dinosaurs, knew everything about it, then it was volcanoes. For the last two years up until this year, he was playing historical,strategic games, he knew everything about Greek civilizations, Roman,etc... and he was impressing the teachers: English and History teachers. That is when,last year they asked us to have him evaluated for IQ. He wrote a long story about fictive civilizations, but was not happy with the results, he is very critical of himself.It was still going pretty good in school last year, because he liked most of the teachers and respected their knowledge.The tests at the psychologist revealed that he had High verbal skills and very high memory skills, but could not understand social issues,that he was very aloof and if he did not recognize intelligence, he would not request help from adults. When we had been made aware of Asperger`s syndrome, we called the psychologist to ask if that would have not been overlooked, and they said catergorically, that he did not fit the character of an AS. So, we forgot about it.This year, with teenage, he wants justice and wants everybody who has been bullying him to pay for what they did. So, he has bouts of anger,because most of the time he does takes his fits at home,but also he did have fits in school with teachers who don't seem to respect him and other students who have been bullying him. He is always the one to get caught,because he is not subtle, but straightforward.Right now, his interests are in some boards on the web, where people do not know who he is and how old he is: he talks about his topics of interest without restriction: Religion,History,and video games.He still plays with legos to my horror. His bedroom is like a battlefield with soldiers and pieces all over the floor. He builds his society with legos and has control over his world.He has only one friend who comes from time to time in the week-end. He thinks that he is not at his level intellectually,but at least he is looking up to him and don't put him down.He really wants to have friends, and yes another thing, he does not like girls. Well, does not feel comfortable at all with them. I would not be surprised if he was going to remain single. I know it is a bit early,but.We have seen a school this week which is an alternative school,small classes, but they do not have any room for September. They have a waiting list, so we will go for it. It would be the best.Thanks girls for listening to me in my bad English ( French is my first language !!!)Lolo> > Re: The Blame Game> > Still, until I am sure that this is really the problem he has, I am > wondering still if he does not have simply difficult times in his > adolescence. There are a few things that seem a bit different.> Gail, can you describe your son`s character if it is not too much to > ask? It would help me tremendously.> Lolo> > > ***************Hi Lolo, just getting back to you as has been very> sick for the past 5 days. He is coming around today and is on an> anti-biotic. When he is sick he likes me to "sit" with him. I sure am> behind in work, but watching Gunsmoke reruns from the 60's was actually> nice to do. You asked about his character. He was not diagnosed until> almost 10 and as soon as I read up on Asperger's I said, sounds just> like . However, he is very social if he likes the person. He fit the> 'little professor' image and the rule follower. From a very young age he> had special interests and learned everything he could about them. Did> your son do this? At 4 it was the solar system, tanks, anatomy. Before> that was Tank and trains at 1 year on for quite some time. He> lined up his toys, especially soldiers. He would make what he called> 'set ups'. Of course once they were complete no one was supposed to move> them. He was quiet, serious and sensitive. Skipping forward at almost 13> he is still a nice boy. However, he is apt to see "the glass half full".> He has no tolerance for little kids and calls them "little twerps". He> sputters under his breathe about them, and if they speak to him he> usually will say nothing. He tells me "it's better that way". At 12 he> does stand out more so as different when there are group dynamics going> on. If he had continued in P.S. he would have been in trouble, because> he was to the point of not taking bull anymore. The Principal and> teachers have told me they miss him, but he seems much better. He does> complain a lot. He complains about almost everything I give him for> school work, but then we compromise and he does the work and actually> enjoys some of it. He loves to read so I am very lucky as certain> subjects like History he just does because he is interested. He does get> very nerved up even when he is enjoying himself. Therefore I can not> picture him in P.S. The music teacher asked him to play the theme song> to the Flintstones the other day and he refused (hates the song). The> teacher was OK with this and is very tolerant of 's ways. What are> your sons interests? Could the school work off these or are they and> your son to busy butting heads right now? I feel bad for your son. He> needs a different program. Is there anyone at the school he likes? Just> wondering if he could sit down and work out a plan for his education.> He's at the age that trying to force him most likely won't work. Would> he outline something for you? When was in 4th grade and crashing we> asked him to write a couple thoughts he had on how to make school better> for him. He wrote "teach me something I don't already know". It was> really quite sad. I bet your son feels like this. What grade is he in?> My best, Gail__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Gail.... and would have a blast together, lol! "However, he is very social if he likes the person" " From a very young age he had special interests and learned everything he could about them" He has no tolerance for little kids and calls them “little twerps”. At 12 he does stand out more so as different when there are group dynamics going on. He does complain a lot. . He does get very nerved up even when he is enjoying himself. “teach me something I don’t already know”. It was really quite sad. I bet your son feels like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Re: The Blame Game Hi Gail, I see a lot of similarities in our two boys. When he was young, before I sent him to daycare for the three first years, he was the happiest kid in the world. He was into ``The Land before time``movies. *****************Forgot about those movies, same with though. Also, Fox and Hound, Charlotte’s Web, and several others. One day, he just repeated the whole movie, scene after scene with intonations and dialogues. We were simply amazed. ***************ditto From that, he got very deep in dinosaurs, knew everything about it, then it was volcanoes. For the last two years up until this year, he was playing historical,strategic games, he knew everything about Greek civilizations, Roman,etc... ********same with , Empire Earth and lots of Civil War games. Oh, I forgot the Mythology year, lots of knowledge in that area. and he was impressing the teachers: English and History teachers. That is when,last year they asked us to have him evaluated for IQ. He wrote a long story about fictive civilizations, but was not happy with the results, he is very critical of himself. ********ditto, has never understood that he wasn’t already supposed to know the subject when they asked questions in school. Of course in elementary most subjects discussed (except math) he had studied on his own. It was still going pretty good in school last year, because he liked most of the teachers and respected their knowledge. The tests at the psychologist revealed that he had High verbal skills and very high memory skills, but could not understand social issues,that he was very aloof and if he did not recognize intelligence, he would not request help from adults. *************Not asking for help is very common with our kids. They don’t even think of it or know how to ask. This skill has to be taught. Something for you folks, with younger kids, to really work on. It is very important and one of those abstract concepts that most just do… would just sit in class and not ask. He was well behaved so the teacher didn’t notice… When we had been made aware of Asperger`s syndrome, we called the psychologist to ask if that would have not been overlooked, and they said catergorically, that he did not fit the character of an AS. So, we forgot about it. **************2 Psychologists, 2 Psychiatrists did not see As. It took a Learning Specialist reviewing the records and observing him one morning and then everyone else agreed. The Principal knew after spending 45 min.’s with him one day. She never told us, but did bring in the Learning Specialist, after seeing no one else was coming up with a complete diagnosis. They were stuck on the OCD(Obsessive Compulsive, which he does have. Nine months in a Psy.’s office once a week and she never saw it. I really don’t feel they studied the test results, because there were discrepancies that should have been questioned beyond OCD. In intelligence scores ranged from 7’s(average) to 19 superior and the ceiling on scores….I wish the principal had told us but now a days I guess many parents get bent out of shape when school officials suggest a certain diagnosis. She did tell us we were the most proactive of anyone she had seen trying to help our son. This year, with teenage, he wants justice and wants everybody who has been bullying him to pay for what they did. *************sorry to say but this is exactly what would have happened to our son if he had stayed in PS. He goes once a week 30 min’s for music. Last year there was a kid between classes, going in and out of the music room that called a name. One day chased him down the hall calling(yelling) him a SOB. Another day grabbed him by the shirt and the same. could never be there with these stinkers as he would be in fights and I am talking about a very nice boy. So, he has bouts of anger,because most of the time he does takes his fits at home,but also he did have fits in school with teachers who don't seem to respect him and other students who have been bullying him. He is always the one to get caught,because he is not subtle, but straightforward. ***************ditto Right now, his interests are in some boards on the web, where people do not know who he is and how old he is: he talks about his topics of interest without restriction: Religion,History,and video games. He still plays with legos to my horror. ************ really never liked Lego’s except an old set they had in first grade. Probably the Lego’s are calming for your son, I wouldn’t worry about it. Last night ,12, had me reading Beatrix Potter to him. He also reads Shakespeare. I think certain things are calming. He has only one friend who comes from time to time in the week-end. He thinks that he is not at his level intellectually,but at least he is looking up to him and don't put him down. ************I think this is good. has a couple kids who come over. I have always put a lot of effort into this early on and I am glad I did. He really wants to have friends, and yes another thing, he does not like girls. Well, does not feel comfortable at all with them. I would not be surprised if he was going to remain single. *************Yes, has said he may just have his dogs. He can’t stand kids and early on I told him he does not have to have kids and used a couple of my friends as examples. If he does marry he wants an ‘old fashioned’ girl. I know it is a bit early,but. We have seen a school this week which is an alternative school,small classes, but they do not have any room for September. They have a waiting list, so we will go for it. ************Really glad you did this. From what you said, at his age, the current situation is not going to work. It would be the best. *************Were there other As. kids at the school? Probably a real mix I imagine. It’s not for juvenile delinquents is it? They are the one type you wouldn’t want him around which I know you realize. Thanks girls for listening to me in my bad English ( French is my first language !!!) Lolo ***********You do great. English is my first language and I have problems with it! Take care, Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Gail, You are so good to me, in going through my post and pin pointing everything and answering each and every one of them. To answer your question, as if there were some other AS in the school? I have no idea, and there is no psychologist in the school either. The person in charge of the students with difficulties just refuse to deal with him now, because at one point, she came to get him during a course and he told her that he was busy. The vice- principal then came to get him in the class and because it was almost over,he followed him and that is when he called us to say that his behaviour was not acceptable and very impolite. That from now on,if we had a problem with our child to communicate with him or the principal at all times. It does not seem to have any kind of possibility of evaluating him in the school setting. Sometime, I believe that he has OCD too,because at one point, he was washing his hands like every five minutes to the point that it was bleeding. All kinds of little things... BTW,I viewed the movie: The Aviator last week-end and I was wondering for those of you who saw it, if you think that was an AS??? Also, I forgot to say that he always complain a lot about everything,exactly like your son. Oh well, I guess that even though all tests would say he is not, he might have somehow a mild side of it. Lorraine > Re: The Blame Game > > Hi Gail, > I see a lot of similarities in our two boys. > When he was young, before I sent him to daycare for the three first > years, he was the happiest kid in the world. > He was into ``The Land before time``movies. > *****************Forgot about those movies, same with though. Also, > Fox and Hound, Charlotte's Web, and several others. > One day, he just repeated > the whole movie, scene after scene with intonations and dialogues. We > were simply amazed. > ***************ditto > From that, he got very deep in dinosaurs, knew > everything about it, then it was volcanoes. For the last two years up > until this year, he was playing historical,strategic games, he knew > everything about Greek civilizations, Roman,etc... > ********same with , Empire Earth and lots of Civil War games. Oh, I > forgot the Mythology year, lots of knowledge in that area. > and he was > impressing the teachers: English and History teachers. That is > when,last year they asked us to have him evaluated for IQ. He wrote a > long story about fictive civilizations, but was not happy with the > results, he is very critical of himself. > ********ditto, has never understood that he wasn't already supposed > to know the subject when they asked questions in school. Of course in > elementary most subjects discussed (except math) he had studied on his > own. > > It was still going pretty good in school last year, because he liked > most of the teachers and respected their knowledge. > The tests at the psychologist revealed that he had High verbal skills > and very high memory skills, but could not understand social > issues,that he was very aloof and if he did not recognize > intelligence, he would not request help from adults. > *************Not asking for help is very common with our kids. They > don't even think of it or know how to ask. This skill has to be taught. > Something for you folks, with younger kids, to really work on. It is > very important and one of those abstract concepts that most just do. > would just sit in class and not ask. He was well behaved so the teacher > didn't notice. > When we had been > made aware of Asperger`s syndrome, we called the psychologist to ask > if that would have not been overlooked, and they said catergorically, > that he did not fit the character of an AS. So, we forgot about it. > **************2 Psychologists, 2 Psychiatrists did not see As. It took a > Learning Specialist reviewing the records and observing him one morning > and then everyone else agreed. The Principal knew after spending 45 > min.'s with him one day. She never told us, but did bring in the > Learning Specialist, after seeing no one else was coming up with a > complete diagnosis. They were stuck on the OCD(Obsessive Compulsive, > which he does have. Nine months in a Psy.'s office once a week and she > never saw it. I really don't feel they studied the test results, because > there were discrepancies that should have been questioned beyond OCD. In > intelligence scores ranged from 7's(average) to 19 superior and the > ceiling on scores..I wish the principal had told us but now a days I > guess many parents get bent out of shape when school officials suggest a > certain diagnosis. She did tell us we were the most proactive of anyone > she had seen trying to help our son. > > This year, with teenage, he wants justice and wants everybody who has > been bullying him to pay for what they did. > *************sorry to say but this is exactly what would have happened > to our son if he had stayed in PS. He goes once a week 30 min's for > music. Last year there was a kid between classes, going in and out of > the music room that called a name. One day chased him down the > hall calling(yelling) him a SOB. Another day grabbed him by the > shirt and the same. could never be there with these stinkers as he > would be in fights and I am talking about a very nice boy. > So, he has bouts of > anger,because most of the time he does takes his fits at home,but > also he did have fits in school with teachers who don't seem to > respect him and other students who have been bullying him. He is > always the one to get caught,because he is not subtle, but > straightforward. > ***************ditto > > Right now, his interests are in some boards on the web, where people > do not know who he is and how old he is: he talks about his topics of > interest without restriction: Religion,History,and video games. > He still plays with legos to my horror. > ************ really never liked Lego's except an old set they had in > first grade. Probably the Lego's are calming for your son, I wouldn't > worry about it. Last night ,12, had me reading Beatrix Potter to > him. He also reads Shakespeare. I think certain things are calming. > > He has only one friend who comes from time to time in the week-end. > He thinks that he is not at his level intellectually,but at least he > is looking up to him and don't put him down. > ************I think this is good. has a couple kids who come over. > I have always put a lot of effort into this early on and I am glad I > did. > > He really wants to have friends, and yes another thing, he does not > like girls. Well, does not feel comfortable at all with them. I would > not be surprised if he was going to remain single. > *************Yes, has said he may just have his dogs. He can't > stand kids and early on I told him he does not have to have kids and > used a couple of my friends as examples. If he does marry he wants an > 'old fashioned' girl. > I know it is a bit > early,but. > We have seen a school this week which is an alternative school,small > classes, but they do not have any room for September. They have a > waiting list, so we will go for it. > ************Really glad you did this. From what you said, at his age, > the current situation is not going to work. > It would be the best. > *************Were there other As. kids at the school? Probably a real > mix I imagine. It's not for juvenile delinquents is it? They are the one > type you wouldn't want him around which I know you realize. > > Thanks girls for listening to me in my bad English ( French is my > first language !!!) > Lolo > ***********You do great. English is my first language and I have > problems with it! Take care, Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Re: The Blame Game Sometime, I believe that he has OCD too,because at one point, he was washing his hands like every five minutes to the point that it was bleeding. All kinds of little things... ****************Hi Lorraine, I’m rushing as this is a busy time of year for me with a plant nursery but I did want to say The hand washing that you describe is OCD. did this after 9/11. Luckily he quickly rinsed his hands so they did not get to the bleeding point ever. Our Pediatrician made a referral to a Family Psychiatry practice. First he met with a Psychologist for 6 weeks for CBT Cognitive Behavioral Therapy) and then it was decided this wasn’t enough and medication was added. This has really helped him and is absolutely necessary for other issues as well such as tics. I can answer any specific questions later……………Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I agree with both of you with the fact that if the interests do not match, forget it... My son is very,very knowledgeable in Star Wars, he has seen the movies time after time. He just started a board for video games and discussions on other topics. Perhaps,your sons would be interested. Lorraine ******************Let me know the address and when is feeling better, he has had a terrible virus, I will ask him. Thanks Gail lilies@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 He just started a board for video games and discussions on other topics. Hi Lorraine Is this list only for boys? or older kids? My dd loves video games but she is only 8 yo. She calls herself the queen of video games. I'm sure she would love to talk to other kids and would love to join, if she is old enough. Carol, mom to , 3/14/94 , 2/18/97 Lily, 9/7/04__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Carol, Does she like older men? lol, my 11 year old claims to be the King -Charlotte RE: Re: The Blame Game He just started a board for video games and discussions on other topics. Hi Lorraine Is this list only for boys? or older kids? My dd loves video games but she is only 8 yo. She calls herself the queen of video games. I'm sure she would love to talk to other kids and would love to join, if she is old enough. Carol, mom to , 3/14/94 , 2/18/97 Lily, 9/7/04 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I’m sorry if I missed it, but do you have the name so that my boys (9 & 13) can join this group? From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of carol sobczak Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 5:14 AM Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: The Blame Game He just started a board for video games and discussions on other topics. Hi Lorraine Is this list only for boys? or older kids? My dd loves video games but she is only 8 yo. She calls herself the queen of video games. I'm sure she would love to talk to other kids and would love to join, if she is old enough. Carol, mom to , 3/14/94 , 2/18/97 Lily, 9/7/04 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 That goes for my son as well.... He loves his Playstation 2. It took him 2 days to beat his new Star Wars game..... My son would be interested as well..... Thanks!!! in Lancaster, Cacarol sobczak <cpsobczak@...> wrote: He just started a board for video games and discussions on other topics. Hi Lorraine Is this list only for boys? or older kids? My dd loves video games but she is only 8 yo. She calls herself the queen of video games. I'm sure she would love to talk to other kids and would love to join, if she is old enough. Carol, mom to , 3/14/94 , 2/18/97 Lily, 9/7/04 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Hi Charlotte This is my AS kid, I don't think she would notice either way,lol.designs <scottdesigns@...> wrote: Carol, Does she like older men? lol, my 11 year old claims to be the King -Charlotte RE: Re: The Blame Game He just started a board for video games and discussions on other topics. Hi Lorraine Is this list only for boys? or older kids? My dd loves video games but she is only 8 yo. She calls herself the queen of video games. I'm sure she would love to talk to other kids and would love to join, if she is old enough. Carol, mom to , 3/14/94 , 2/18/97 Lily, 9/7/04 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Good point.....my son probably wouldn't either, lol! RE: Re: The Blame Game He just started a board for video games and discussions on other topics. Hi Lorraine Is this list only for boys? or older kids? My dd loves video games but she is only 8 yo. She calls herself the queen of video games. I'm sure she would love to talk to other kids and would love to join, if she is old enough. Carol, mom to , 3/14/94 , 2/18/97 Lily, 9/7/04 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Thank goodness we can laugh about this because if we couldn't we'd all probably do nothing but cry. I know I would. I'm glad I have all of you to laugh with.designs <scottdesigns@...> wrote: Good point.....my son probably wouldn't either, lol! Re: Re: The Blame Game Hi Charlotte This is my AS kid, I don't think she would notice either way,lol. Carol, mom to , 3/14/94 , 2/18/97 Lily, 9/7/04 Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 I couldn't agree more!! Re: Re: The Blame Game Hi Charlotte This is my AS kid, I don't think she would notice either way,lol. Carol, mom to , 3/14/94 , 2/18/97 Lily, 9/7/04 Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 The Blame Game Daily Inspiration By Dr. H. Sklare Monday, October 16, 2006 I read a very interesting article in the paper a while back titled “Don’t Blame The Burgers.” It was an article regarding the two overweight teenagers from New York who were suing Mc’s over their current state of their health. This story provides another prime example of how some people avoid responsibility, claim victim status and point that fickle finger of blame. Only YOU can create the healthy life and fit body that you dream about and only YOU can endanger it. The bottom line is that the life you lead and the body you create are the end results of the choices that you make. And most people seem to agree. As a matter of fact, a 2003 Gallup Poll found that nine out of ten Americans say that it’s wrong to hold food companies liable for obesity-related problems. Winning that lawsuit is certainly not going to make those two teenagers fit and healthy. What will make them fit and healthy is learning to take personal responsibility for their bodies and making an honest and heartfelt commitment to healthy living. Because, at the end of the day, the truth is this; only YOU can move you, only YOU can feel you, only YOU can live you and only YOU can change you. The healthy life and fit body that you want so badly all begins with taking personal responsibility. Pointing fingers and blaming others does not help to close the gap between who you are and who you want to be. Mindful and responsible choices will do that for you. I rest my case your honor! What Have You Done Today To Make You Feel Proud?? - The Biggest Loser Theme Song -Sapphyre Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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