Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 My name is and I'm actually not sure what I am in school. I have completed 55 credit hours, and to be considered a junior you must complete 60. So I am not a sophomore or a junior. I guess I'm kinda both or just stuck in between. I graduated high school a year early and went to college so this is my second year (I am at the University of Iowa). But I am almost 19 (in april). Unfortunately, I am sad to agree with you about your thoughts on people my age. People my age don't care about health, so it seems. But it's odd because my sister lived in California for awhile. She lives in Colorado now and the youth I have met there seem to be more into health than us midwesterners do. Some midwest people are just...I don't know. Most people my age that I meet tend to not worry about anything they injest/are subjected to or anything. It's actually really depressing because I really would like to go to CCNM or NCNM and become a naturopath and maybe specialize in homeopathy. However, it seems like people aren't ready for that kind of thing around here. That's why I've considered Canada, because I know they are more accepting of alternative medicine. But I'm a family girl and would miss my family terribly, who I assume will remain stuck in the midwest. We'll see what happens. Jess Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote: Sounds good to me. It's a rare occassion I get to speak with people your age about health on this level. Your very smart for your age. Knowledge is power so keep feeding your head with diversified information. When you say school, do you mean senior year of high school or freshman at college? What is your first name please? Anita skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: Yes again I agree with you. Thimerosal would be a huge step but still I would choose not to vaccinate (not that I have to worry about it cuz I'm only 18). I just wanted to urge people to stick to their guns. We've made a lot of headway with this whole fight anyhow. My sister is testifying tomorrow in Denver with some MDs. I'm not sure what she's directly battling this time, but let's all hope for her side to win. Thank you for all of the discussion; it seems like I haven't gotten the chance to talk health for quite some time as I'm bogged down with school work. I'm always up for learning something new about health so let's keep up this chitty chatting. Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:Eliminating thimerisol will only solve part of the vaccine problem. The only safe vaccines are the ones that never get used. Every single vaccine is problematic and potentially life threatening. We have to start somewhere so if thimerisol is where we begin, sobeit. By the way, I do understand your concern, I am just looking at the big picture from where I stand. Anita skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: I appreciated the article as well, but I was just upset that they are overlooking a lot of important information. And only 4200 lawsuits is nothing next to the number of parents left with dead/autistic/vaccine damaged children. While it is a good step, and an important one, it is still too little. By focusing our attention on other aspects, I'm afraid people will lose sight of the non-thimerosal vaccine goal. People have already lost sight when the government started labeling " preservative free " vaccines. But look what happened...there still is mercury in those vaccines; preservative free...yes, but antimicrobial or whatever free....no. I think that of course we should try and eliminate thimerosal, mercury, all carcinogens from things that we are forced to live with such as our air quality/healthcare, but there are still plenty of doctors and legistlators and all sorts of powerful people that are holding on to the " we have to vaccinate the world " mentality. I just worry that people are going to move away from the vaccine issue thinking that we've got the battle won, when in fact it's pretty much just starting. Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:The medical community is stumped for a lot of reasons, denial of vaccine damage is one of them. The CDC has not denied it as of recently. 4200 law suits were filed against Merck last week by all the parents who were led to believe there was no thimerisol in certain vaccines since 1999. The cat has been let out of the bag and they know it. They can no longer deny that 87x the EPA recommended amount of mercury being injected into a child is a bad thing. Kirby is the best thing these parents have going for them regarding the Thimerisol issue. Did you happen to catch his interview on the Imus show recently? He is not an anti-vaccinationist and is very careful and scientific about how he presents the problem. Because of his politically correct style, and brilliant speaking technique, he will be heard and taken seriously by the powers that be. Until you can place the blame of Autism on one particular thing or another, and prove it conclusively, we will all remain stumped. Anita skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: Well yes the environment is a huge factor. I wouldn't think anyone could actually deny that. But the fact that the article says that the medical community is " stumped " at the increase in autism baffles me. They put huge funding into the testing of the environment and they could probably spend less just by stop using thimerosal in childhood vaccines (and I don't mean by trying to filter it out). Environment is huge...but so is anything we put into our bodies and I just feel like they are missing other links that are just as important. Maybe they're trying to shift the blame? " Autism has increased dramatically over the last decade or so and the reasons for that have really stumped the medical community, " said. " Now we think that due to the rising exposures in pollutants like mercury, they may be at the root of some of these cases, " she said. They're merely stating that environ. emissions of mercury may be at the root of some of the cases for autism.The focus is not on vaccinations in this particular article. These reports are just as important as the mercury containing vaccines. My son was never vaccinated and yet he is autistic (and I don't mean high functioning either). I know inheriting my vaccines is a possibility, but so are other factors including the air we breathe. As time goes by, we will discover contributors we never even thought of. Anita May <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: Environmental mercury may be the cause...but they deny vaccines could be??????? Mercury Pollution, Autism Link Found - US Study By Jim Forsyth Reuters Thursday 17 March 2005 San , Texas - Mercury released primarily from coal- fired power plants may be contributing to an increase in the number of cases of autism, a Texas researcher said on Wednesday. A study to be published on Thursday in the journal " Health and Place " found that autism, a developmental disorder marked by communication and social interaction problems, increased in Texas counties as mercury emissions rose, said , a family and community medicine professor at the University of Texas Health Science Center in San . " The main finding is that for every thousand pounds of environmentally released mercury, we saw a 17 percent increase in autism rates, " she said in an interview. About 48 tons of mercury are released into the air annually in the United States from hundreds of coal-burning plants. The study looked at Texas county-by-county levels of mercury emissions recorded by the government and compared them to the rates of autism and special education services in 1,200 Texas school districts, said. " The study shows that there may be a very important connection between environmental exposure to mercury and the development of autism, " she said in an interview. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has said it does not know how many cases of autism there are in the country or whether the number has increased, but that the issue is under study. Some experts estimate there are 1.5 million people in the United States with autism, most of them children, and say the number of cases has risen rapidly in recent years. " Autism has increased dramatically over the last decade or so and the reasons for that have really stumped the medical community, " said. " Now we think that due to the rising exposures in pollutants like mercury, they may be at the root of some of these cases, " she said. The Bush administration this week ordered power plants to cut mercury pollution by 50 percent within 15 years, but environmentalists said the action fell short of what was needed. They have called for a 90 percent cut in mercury emissions. " This research has implications for toxic substance regulation and prevention policies, " said Palmer, an autism expert at the San school who helped in the study. " Policies regarding toxic release of mercury and the incidence of developmental disorders should be investigated, " he said. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 Hi , Health Care Practitioners are becoming super popular. They are medically trained doctors who are not afraid of alternative treatments. I know many of them sit on the fence and are'nt committed enough to one thing, but again--another example of an impure way of transitioning society as a whole into even considering anything other than drugs and surgery. I see it as a good thing . Many of them accept private insurance. I actually found a chiropractor in my book of healthcare providers from my insurance company that offers acupuncture. There may be a larger co-pay for this service, I have'nt looked into it yet. Change is in the air. Unfortunately change is a long and painful process and many perish unneccessarily along the way. I guess thats history. Get your education here in the US close to your family and friends. Then see where life takes you. Anita skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: My name is and I'm actually not sure what I am in school. I have completed 55 credit hours, and to be considered a junior you must complete 60. So I am not a sophomore or a junior. I guess I'm kinda both or just stuck in between. I graduated high school a year early and went to college so this is my second year (I am at the University of Iowa). But I am almost 19 (in april). Unfortunately, I am sad to agree with you about your thoughts on people my age. People my age don't care about health, so it seems. But it's odd because my sister lived in California for awhile. She lives in Colorado now and the youth I have met there seem to be more into health than us midwesterners do. Some midwest people are just...I don't know. Most people my age that I meet tend to not worry about anything they injest/are subjected to or anything. It's actually really depressing because I really would like to go to CCNM or NCNM and become a naturopath and maybe specialize in homeopathy. However, it seems like people aren't ready for that kind of thing around here. That's why I've considered Canada, because I know they are more accepting of alternative medicine. But I'm a family girl and would miss my family terribly, who I assume will remain stuck in the midwest. We'll see what happens. Jess Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote: Sounds good to me. It's a rare occassion I get to speak with people your age about health on this level. Your very smart for your age. Knowledge is power so keep feeding your head with diversified information. When you say school, do you mean senior year of high school or freshman at college? What is your first name please? Anita skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: Yes again I agree with you. Thimerosal would be a huge step but still I would choose not to vaccinate (not that I have to worry about it cuz I'm only 18). I just wanted to urge people to stick to their guns. We've made a lot of headway with this whole fight anyhow. My sister is testifying tomorrow in Denver with some MDs. I'm not sure what she's directly battling this time, but let's all hope for her side to win. Thank you for all of the discussion; it seems like I haven't gotten the chance to talk health for quite some time as I'm bogged down with school work. I'm always up for learning something new about health so let's keep up this chitty chatting. Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:Eliminating thimerisol will only solve part of the vaccine problem. The only safe vaccines are the ones that never get used. Every single vaccine is problematic and potentially life threatening. We have to start somewhere so if thimerisol is where we begin, sobeit. By the way, I do understand your concern, I am just looking at the big picture from where I stand. Anita skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: I appreciated the article as well, but I was just upset that they are overlooking a lot of important information. And only 4200 lawsuits is nothing next to the number of parents left with dead/autistic/vaccine damaged children. While it is a good step, and an important one, it is still too little. By focusing our attention on other aspects, I'm afraid people will lose sight of the non-thimerosal vaccine goal. People have already lost sight when the government started labeling " preservative free " vaccines. But look what happened...there still is mercury in those vaccines; preservative free...yes, but antimicrobial or whatever free....no. I think that of course we should try and eliminate thimerosal, mercury, all carcinogens from things that we are forced to live with such as our air quality/healthcare, but there are still plenty of doctors and legistlators and all sorts of powerful people that are holding on to the " we have to vaccinate the world " mentality. I just worry that people are going to move away from the vaccine issue thinking that we've got the battle won, when in fact it's pretty much just starting. Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:The medical community is stumped for a lot of reasons, denial of vaccine damage is one of them. The CDC has not denied it as of recently. 4200 law suits were filed against Merck last week by all the parents who were led to believe there was no thimerisol in certain vaccines since 1999. The cat has been let out of the bag and they know it. They can no longer deny that 87x the EPA recommended amount of mercury being injected into a child is a bad thing. Kirby is the best thing these parents have going for them regarding the Thimerisol issue. Did you happen to catch his interview on the Imus show recently? He is not an anti-vaccinationist and is very careful and scientific about how he presents the problem. Because of his politically correct style, and brilliant speaking technique, he will be heard and taken seriously by the powers that be. Until you can place the blame of Autism on one particular thing or another, and prove it conclusively, we will all remain stumped. Anita skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: Well yes the environment is a huge factor. I wouldn't think anyone could actually deny that. But the fact that the article says that the medical community is " stumped " at the increase in autism baffles me. They put huge funding into the testing of the environment and they could probably spend less just by stop using thimerosal in childhood vaccines (and I don't mean by trying to filter it out). Environment is huge...but so is anything we put into our bodies and I just feel like they are missing other links that are just as important. Maybe they're trying to shift the blame? " Autism has increased dramatically over the last decade or so and the reasons for that have really stumped the medical community, " said. " Now we think that due to the rising exposures in pollutants like mercury, they may be at the root of some of these cases, " she said. They're merely stating that environ. emissions of mercury may be at the root of some of the cases for autism.The focus is not on vaccinations in this particular article. These reports are just as important as the mercury containing vaccines. My son was never vaccinated and yet he is autistic (and I don't mean high functioning either). I know inheriting my vaccines is a possibility, but so are other factors including the air we breathe. As time goes by, we will discover contributors we never even thought of. Anita May <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: Environmental mercury may be the cause...but they deny vaccines could be??????? Mercury Pollution, Autism Link Found - US Study By Jim Forsyth Reuters Thursday 17 March 2005 San , Texas - Mercury released primarily from coal- fired power plants may be contributing to an increase in the number of cases of autism, a Texas researcher said on Wednesday. A study to be published on Thursday in the journal " Health and Place " found that autism, a developmental disorder marked by communication and social interaction problems, increased in Texas counties as mercury emissions rose, said , a family and community medicine professor at the University of Texas Health Science Center in San . " The main finding is that for every thousand pounds of environmentally released mercury, we saw a 17 percent increase in autism rates, " she said in an interview. About 48 tons of mercury are released into the air annually in the United States from hundreds of coal-burning plants. The study looked at Texas county-by-county levels of mercury emissions recorded by the government and compared them to the rates of autism and special education services in 1,200 Texas school districts, said. " The study shows that there may be a very important connection between environmental exposure to mercury and the development of autism, " she said in an interview. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has said it does not know how many cases of autism there are in the country or whether the number has increased, but that the issue is under study. Some experts estimate there are 1.5 million people in the United States with autism, most of them children, and say the number of cases has risen rapidly in recent years. " Autism has increased dramatically over the last decade or so and the reasons for that have really stumped the medical community, " said. " Now we think that due to the rising exposures in pollutants like mercury, they may be at the root of some of these cases, " she said. The Bush administration this week ordered power plants to cut mercury pollution by 50 percent within 15 years, but environmentalists said the action fell short of what was needed. They have called for a 90 percent cut in mercury emissions. " This research has implications for toxic substance regulation and prevention policies, " said Palmer, an autism expert at the San school who helped in the study. " Policies regarding toxic release of mercury and the incidence of developmental disorders should be investigated, " he said. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 Definately, it is a long and painful process. But just that fact that this board even exists gives me hope. Everyone on this board is making an effort to improve their lives and their children's lives. Change is inevitable...I just wish I could speed it up. Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:Hi , Health Care Practitioners are becoming super popular. They are medically trained doctors who are not afraid of alternative treatments. I know many of them sit on the fence and are'nt committed enough to one thing, but again--another example of an impure way of transitioning society as a whole into even considering anything other than drugs and surgery. I see it as a good thing . Many of them accept private insurance. I actually found a chiropractor in my book of healthcare providers from my insurance company that offers acupuncture. There may be a larger co-pay for this service, I have'nt looked into it yet. Change is in the air. Unfortunately change is a long and painful process and many perish unneccessarily along the way. I guess thats history. Get your education here in the US close to your family and friends. Then see where life takes you. Anita skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: My name is and I'm actually not sure what I am in school. I have completed 55 credit hours, and to be considered a junior you must complete 60. So I am not a sophomore or a junior. I guess I'm kinda both or just stuck in between. I graduated high school a year early and went to college so this is my second year (I am at the University of Iowa). But I am almost 19 (in april). Unfortunately, I am sad to agree with you about your thoughts on people my age. People my age don't care about health, so it seems. But it's odd because my sister lived in California for awhile. She lives in Colorado now and the youth I have met there seem to be more into health than us midwesterners do. Some midwest people are just...I don't know. Most people my age that I meet tend to not worry about anything they injest/are subjected to or anything. It's actually really depressing because I really would like to go to CCNM or NCNM and become a naturopath and maybe specialize in homeopathy. However, it seems like people aren't ready for that kind of thing around here. That's why I've considered Canada, because I know they are more accepting of alternative medicine. But I'm a family girl and would miss my family terribly, who I assume will remain stuck in the midwest. We'll see what happens. Jess Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote: Sounds good to me. It's a rare occassion I get to speak with people your age about health on this level. Your very smart for your age. Knowledge is power so keep feeding your head with diversified information. When you say school, do you mean senior year of high school or freshman at college? What is your first name please? Anita skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: Yes again I agree with you. Thimerosal would be a huge step but still I would choose not to vaccinate (not that I have to worry about it cuz I'm only 18). I just wanted to urge people to stick to their guns. We've made a lot of headway with this whole fight anyhow. My sister is testifying tomorrow in Denver with some MDs. I'm not sure what she's directly battling this time, but let's all hope for her side to win. Thank you for all of the discussion; it seems like I haven't gotten the chance to talk health for quite some time as I'm bogged down with school work. I'm always up for learning something new about health so let's keep up this chitty chatting. Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:Eliminating thimerisol will only solve part of the vaccine problem. The only safe vaccines are the ones that never get used. Every single vaccine is problematic and potentially life threatening. We have to start somewhere so if thimerisol is where we begin, sobeit. By the way, I do understand your concern, I am just looking at the big picture from where I stand. Anita skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: I appreciated the article as well, but I was just upset that they are overlooking a lot of important information. And only 4200 lawsuits is nothing next to the number of parents left with dead/autistic/vaccine damaged children. While it is a good step, and an important one, it is still too little. By focusing our attention on other aspects, I'm afraid people will lose sight of the non-thimerosal vaccine goal. People have already lost sight when the government started labeling " preservative free " vaccines. But look what happened...there still is mercury in those vaccines; preservative free...yes, but antimicrobial or whatever free....no. I think that of course we should try and eliminate thimerosal, mercury, all carcinogens from things that we are forced to live with such as our air quality/healthcare, but there are still plenty of doctors and legistlators and all sorts of powerful people that are holding on to the " we have to vaccinate the world " mentality. I just worry that people are going to move away from the vaccine issue thinking that we've got the battle won, when in fact it's pretty much just starting. Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:The medical community is stumped for a lot of reasons, denial of vaccine damage is one of them. The CDC has not denied it as of recently. 4200 law suits were filed against Merck last week by all the parents who were led to believe there was no thimerisol in certain vaccines since 1999. The cat has been let out of the bag and they know it. They can no longer deny that 87x the EPA recommended amount of mercury being injected into a child is a bad thing. Kirby is the best thing these parents have going for them regarding the Thimerisol issue. Did you happen to catch his interview on the Imus show recently? He is not an anti-vaccinationist and is very careful and scientific about how he presents the problem. Because of his politically correct style, and brilliant speaking technique, he will be heard and taken seriously by the powers that be. Until you can place the blame of Autism on one particular thing or another, and prove it conclusively, we will all remain stumped. Anita skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: Well yes the environment is a huge factor. I wouldn't think anyone could actually deny that. But the fact that the article says that the medical community is " stumped " at the increase in autism baffles me. They put huge funding into the testing of the environment and they could probably spend less just by stop using thimerosal in childhood vaccines (and I don't mean by trying to filter it out). Environment is huge...but so is anything we put into our bodies and I just feel like they are missing other links that are just as important. Maybe they're trying to shift the blame? " Autism has increased dramatically over the last decade or so and the reasons for that have really stumped the medical community, " said. " Now we think that due to the rising exposures in pollutants like mercury, they may be at the root of some of these cases, " she said. They're merely stating that environ. emissions of mercury may be at the root of some of the cases for autism.The focus is not on vaccinations in this particular article. These reports are just as important as the mercury containing vaccines. My son was never vaccinated and yet he is autistic (and I don't mean high functioning either). I know inheriting my vaccines is a possibility, but so are other factors including the air we breathe. As time goes by, we will discover contributors we never even thought of. Anita May <skunkiesublime@...> wrote: Environmental mercury may be the cause...but they deny vaccines could be??????? Mercury Pollution, Autism Link Found - US Study By Jim Forsyth Reuters Thursday 17 March 2005 San , Texas - Mercury released primarily from coal- fired power plants may be contributing to an increase in the number of cases of autism, a Texas researcher said on Wednesday. A study to be published on Thursday in the journal " Health and Place " found that autism, a developmental disorder marked by communication and social interaction problems, increased in Texas counties as mercury emissions rose, said , a family and community medicine professor at the University of Texas Health Science Center in San . " The main finding is that for every thousand pounds of environmentally released mercury, we saw a 17 percent increase in autism rates, " she said in an interview. About 48 tons of mercury are released into the air annually in the United States from hundreds of coal-burning plants. The study looked at Texas county-by-county levels of mercury emissions recorded by the government and compared them to the rates of autism and special education services in 1,200 Texas school districts, said. " The study shows that there may be a very important connection between environmental exposure to mercury and the development of autism, " she said in an interview. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has said it does not know how many cases of autism there are in the country or whether the number has increased, but that the issue is under study. Some experts estimate there are 1.5 million people in the United States with autism, most of them children, and say the number of cases has risen rapidly in recent years. " Autism has increased dramatically over the last decade or so and the reasons for that have really stumped the medical community, " said. " Now we think that due to the rising exposures in pollutants like mercury, they may be at the root of some of these cases, " she said. The Bush administration this week ordered power plants to cut mercury pollution by 50 percent within 15 years, but environmentalists said the action fell short of what was needed. They have called for a 90 percent cut in mercury emissions. " This research has implications for toxic substance regulation and prevention policies, " said Palmer, an autism expert at the San school who helped in the study. " Policies regarding toxic release of mercury and the incidence of developmental disorders should be investigated, " he said. Quote
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