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This is simple. If you have insurance, definitely test. If not, then what I

did was choose to save the $524 that Quest Diagnostics would have directly

cost me and just asked my doc for prescription and so yesterday my samples

arrived along with a prescription. I will be taking my first Benicar w/i the

next

couple days. I'm almost skeptical it will do anything for me. My initial

interest came b/c of its similarities to dexamethasone's relation with ACE and

angiotensin stuff, as my thinking is if it could reduce inflammation in my brain

like dexamethasone apparently did, I could maybe feel VERY good and near

cured. I am most interested in seeing Benicar's effects on me and two others

who

were on dexamethasone following surgeries who also felt cured, Jo and Trish.

Trish is on Benicar already. Hopefully Jo and I will have good results too

and we can see for ourselves if it has similar effects.

I would have gobbled down a Benicar as soon as I got it yesterday but I

wanted to try one last experiment and use my new rife machine with inflammation

frequencies and see if anything positive happens. One thing at a time. It is a

good time to try these things as my symptoms have gotten much worse lately

since moving back to NC. Went to Walmart last night and stayed over 50 mins and

by the time I left there I felt like I had the flu with deep aching down into

lower legs and lower back aching too. I didn't put the signs together until

later that Walmart is a bad culprit at making me feel worse (all the

formaldehyde from clothing and other new items?), as I am chemical sensetive, so

I could

kick myself for staying in there that long on a day I already didn't feel so

good in the first place.

In a message dated 6/5/2004 11:32:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

Thanks for all the information.

I've read previous msgs on this board, the MP group and infosarc, but

I'm still not clear as to whether all people are doing the vit D tests

and other tests recommended by Dr. Marshall before starting the

protocol. It seems some are not. Would those of you who are on it and

know others who are, give an update on this. I'm wondering whether to

test or just try

it.

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, could also be the lighting? I've always detested large stores

and artificial lighting. Hate grocery shopping. Especially those

lighted cases with their annoying flickering. Now, based on Trevor's

research, it could actually be the lighting that's making us feel

ill as well. Try dark sunglasses, hat, etc. next time. See if it

helps?

penny

> This is simple. If you have insurance, definitely test. If not,

then what I

> did was choose to save the $524 that Quest Diagnostics would have

directly

> cost me and just asked my doc for prescription and so yesterday my

samples

> arrived along with a prescription. I will be taking my first

Benicar w/i the next

> couple days. I'm almost skeptical it will do anything for me. My

initial

> interest came b/c of its similarities to dexamethasone's relation

with ACE and

> angiotensin stuff, as my thinking is if it could reduce

inflammation in my brain

> like dexamethasone apparently did, I could maybe feel VERY good

and near

> cured. I am most interested in seeing Benicar's effects on me and

two others who

> were on dexamethasone following surgeries who also felt cured, Jo

and Trish.

> Trish is on Benicar already. Hopefully Jo and I will have good

results too

> and we can see for ourselves if it has similar effects.

>

> I would have gobbled down a Benicar as soon as I got it yesterday

but I

> wanted to try one last experiment and use my new rife machine with

inflammation

> frequencies and see if anything positive happens. One thing at a

time. It is a

> good time to try these things as my symptoms have gotten much

worse lately

> since moving back to NC. Went to Walmart last night and stayed

over 50 mins and

> by the time I left there I felt like I had the flu with deep

aching down into

> lower legs and lower back aching too. I didn't put the signs

together until

> later that Walmart is a bad culprit at making me feel worse (all

the

> formaldehyde from clothing and other new items?), as I am chemical

sensetive, so I could

> kick myself for staying in there that long on a day I already

didn't feel so

> good in the first place.

>

>

> In a message dated 6/5/2004 11:32:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

> Thanks for all the information.

> I've read previous msgs on this board, the MP group and infosarc,

but

> I'm still not clear as to whether all people are doing the vit D

tests

> and other tests recommended by Dr. Marshall before starting the

> protocol. It seems some are not. Would those of you who are on it

and

> know others who are, give an update on this. I'm wondering whether

to

> test or just try

> it.

>

>

>

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Yes, , I definitely got my Ds tested. The complete

instructions are at the www.sarcinfo.com site. Really, it's the 25-D

and the 1,25D (hormone) that are most helpful. Then it's the ratio

of the two together that's important to tell if your D metabolism is

off, indicating an inflammation/immune problem. Having those base

line tests will also help you gauge your progress on the protocol.

TEsting's not absolutely necessary for starting the prtocol. You and

your doctor can also watch your symptoms as another way to gauge

whether this model fits your illness.

But the testing will be an aid, and especially if you have

insurance, no reason not to do it.

penny

> Thanks for all the information.

> I've read previous msgs on this board, the MP group and infosarc,

but

> I'm still not clear as to whether all people are doing the vit D

tests

> and other tests recommended by Dr. Marshall before starting the

> protocol. It seems some are not. Would those of you who are on it

and

> know others who are, give an update on this. I'm wondering whether

to

> test or just try

> it.

>

> I apologize if you already stated this and I missed that info.

>

> Sandy Olson

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Message: 19

Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:19:55 -0000

From: " Olson " <sanols02@...>

Subject: To Penny & Others on MP- Did you test first?

Hi Sandy,

As an avid reader of the Marshall Protocol list I'm convinced that it's

important to test first. Here's a quote from a long-time member of the

experimental list:

....both 1,25-OH-vitamin D and 25-OH-vitamin

D should be measured, and the ratio of the first to the second should be

calculated. If this ratio is significantly elevated above the normal value

of 1.25 defined by Dr. Marshall, vitamin D should not be supplemented, even

though the level of 25-OH-vitamin D may be below normal. In fact, based on

Dr. Marshall's work, consideration should be given to reducing the intake

of vitamin D and reducing the exposure to sunlight. Further information on

this subject can be found at Dr. Marshall's website (www.sarcinfo.com).

A. Van Konynenburg, Ph.D. [end of quote]

Sue ,

Upstate New York

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