hi all

April 10, 2012

Cecillia not credulous!!!

Need to turn of predictive text keep making mistakes!:-)

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On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 08:43 PDT ILIKE TREES wrote:

>

>Thanks very much credulous

>How are u ? X

>

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>On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 02:37 PDT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>

>>Hi C!

>>Glad you got well treated at the derm.

>>Also that you have a new fellow-friend, the dog!

>>Hope you manage and dond´t give the mites to the dog.

>>Good thoughts to you!

>>Cecilia

>>

>>________________________________

>>From: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 7:30 PM

>>Subject: Re: Re:hi all

>>

>>Oh hello

>>Nice to hear from you x

>>Sorry u were so exhausted

>>But best to rest when can!

>>How are u?

>>Still off abx?

>>How are ur symptoms?

>>How's daughter n granddaughter?

>>Was alone Easter with wee dog

>>She's lovely but many problems n in exhausted

>>She scared of dogs insurers

>>Have to save up for that

>>Expensive

>>Pulls,on lead

>>Runs away

>>In many ways,i do not have the energy she needs

>>In done,in

>>But I have taken the commitment

>>She wet the flat several times so have make sure she out a lot

>>And train her as much as I can

>>It like a tiny child!!!

>>Though not bad bone in her body

>>Good nature

>>No aversion at all

>>Very prety

>>But its a lot o work n every time she scratches I get terribly anxious which

is awful

>>And I feel scared n selfish for trying her

>>But I think that she doing well

>>N I hope,n pray she,won't b affected by what is,on my hands,n feet

>>Hands a lot beter these days

>>Feet stil torturing me

>>Just finishing 6 weeks doxy

>>Will order another 6 weeks though

>>Run better than was :-)

>>Tho stil fragile

>>So it stressful as wash dogs towels separate n don't let her near my feet

>>Stil got carpet living room bedroom

>>Hoover every day n clean dettol or washing up liquid a lot

>>So hope my little dog not affected

>>She on frontline

>>And she young n strong!!

>>Well went dermatology

>>He barely looked at my feet n because he coudnt see lesions or anything he

declared I didn't have mites

>>Im not convinced but didn't say anything

>>Stil feel likely that I have

>>Though I asked about bartonella n Luke

>>He went on about ticks n bulls eye rash

>>But I said

>>That folk im in touch with got lyme with mites

>>So he took a blood test

>>I said is it the elissa test

>>He said yes!!

>>Well I know it may be false negative however at least he took me seriously n

never bloody mentioned mental health like the doctor

>>Still have to wait two month for next appointment but it was good he at least

took a blood test even if no further forward

>>Hugs to u

>>N to everyone else

>>

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>>On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 10:10 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>>

>>Oh that is great C! How are you feeling now?

>>

>>How is your little dog? Hope you had a nice Easter too. I was going to make a

nice Easter dinner of lamb, but was too exhausted to do it, so we just rested

all day.

>>

>> Re: New to this group, and I hope you can help me

>>

>>I went to Dr. Zhang and he gave me some pills to keep taking to desensitize

me, problem is he didn't believe they could be living on me or in me and now

after 2 weeks I'm feeling a lot more pin bricks all over me all the time whereas

before I was mainly getting bites on my feet and fingers at night..I think the

idea of desensitizing is a good one as I still think these mites are around my

daughter's family and cats but they're not bothered whereas I am but the fact

that I'm not getting something to also kill them worries me since I'm feeling

worse and feeling that he doesn't fully comprehend my situation and therefore

I'm not being treated properly and may just be making my situation worse.

>>

>> >

>> > Hello all, I know, after reading many of the posts here, that many of

>> > you are suffering terribly from multiple diseases, perhaps caused by

>> > bird mites, perhaps not. I can't really tell as I am joining in the

>> > middle of some of your discussions.

>> >

>> > But, I could really use some advice from people who are undergoing

>> > issues with bird mites or have undergone them.

>> >

>> > I guess I was living in blissful ignorance up til now. Wish I could go

>> > back to that time before I ever heard of bird mites. I raised

>> > canaries. Well, I took them over from my father when he passed away a

>> > year ago. One day I noticed these little brown specks jumping onto my

>> > hand from the bird cages. Lots of calls and conversations with

>> > Entomologists and Pest Controllers led me to understand that these

>> > were red bird mites (chicken mites). I already had been scratching a

>> > lot and thought it was fleas from my dogs. So, I got rid of all my

>> > birds. I have an impaired immune system due to a rare disease called

>> > Dercums. Lots of pain and fatigue and many other things.

>> >

>> > After giving all of my birds to a fellow bird fancier, I immediately

>> > fumigated my home. (Nygaard IGR with Onslaught and DE for the attic).

>> > This seemed to help for a day or two and then I was attacked in droves

>> > of them (having no bird to feed on, I was the next best. along with my

>> > little dog, who is old and not well. My teen age son and his younger

>> > dog have been fairly unaffected). I did everything I could. I vacuumed

>> > constantly, sprayed with ammonia, bleach, kleen free, washed all my

>> > clothes in hot water with borax and ammonia, etc. etc.). But after

>> > three weeks I could not take it any longer. So, called Pest Company

>> > back out and they treated again. This time with a product called

>> > Zenprox. This time I went through all of my closets and threw away

>> > almost all of my clothes. What I kept went into plastic bags with moth

>> > balls and were kept outside or in the garage. Again, the mites

>> > returned. So a couple of days ago, the Pest Control company came out

>> > and sprayed again with Onslaught and an exciter (don't know the

>> > product name) and drilled holds into the walls where the mites were

>> > the worst (like my bedroom and the room where the birds had been kept)

>> > and put a fogger into the walls. I had been away for a week in a local

>> > motel just so I could get some rest and to combat multiple cold sores

>> > and a bladder infection. Upon returning yesterday I noticed the mites

>> > are still here. Relentless. I even started wearing a dog collar at

>> > night to keep them out of my mouth.

>> >

>> > That is the absolute worst thing that has been happening. They just

>> > won't stay out of my mouth. I am constantly coughing up mites. I am

>> > gargling incessantly and wear Vicks Vapor Rub all over my mouth, nose

>> > and neck to discourage them during the day. But they still get in. I

>> > have been battling these mites for over 6 weeks now and nothing is

>> > working. I spent 3 hours vacuuming yesterday but the PCO did not want

>> > me to doing anything other than that because she did not want anything

>> > to counteract the fumigant. Most of my clothes I keep outside now

>> > (even the ones that I wear). They are in plastic tubs with moth

>> > chrystals in them. I am washing all my bed linens every day and

>> > whatever clothes I have worn. This morning my back hurts between my

>> > shoulder blades and I am coughing up brown stuff. I am very worried

>> > that somehow mites have gotten into my lungs. I know they aren't

>> > supposed to be able to live off of humans, nor are they supposed to

>> > live inside a human body. But I can't say that I believe this.

>> >

>> > Has anyone in this group encountered anything similar to this? Or are

>> > there any suggestions or advice anyone can give me. My daughter is

>> > getting married this summer and my happiness for her and ability to

>> > help plan her wedding has all been destroyed by these mites. I just

>> > don't know what to do.

>> >

>> > Forgive me please as I know many of you are suffering far worse than

>> > me, but still, I could really use some help.

>> >

>> > Thank you so much and my best wishes to everyone here.

>> >

>> > Terry

>> >

>>

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>>

April 11, 2012

So glad you did C, did you get your lost phone back though ??

Also good to hear that your derm. did take you serious and at least offered something appropriate.

Welcome back-hugs :-)

Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 19:02 Montag, 9.April 2012Betreff: Re: Re:hi all

Hi everyone I have my mobile internet back and running:-)X------------------------------On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 11:59 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>Hi dear miteymaid... >>>These things always in my experience get worse before they get better... that has happened to me even with antibiotics. I have very little happening at the moment, but it has been many months of vigilence and using antibiotics. I don't know what Dr. Zhang's track record is with our problem(s). He may be slightly off the mark, meaning you may have other things going on that were not addressed... is he addressing Lyme and coinfections? My understanding through reading is that Lyme always comes with mycoplasma... the fact that the rest of the family is not attracting or sensitive tells me your issues are

internal. Just my thought. And by the way, sorry we didn't do a phone conference. I was not doing well and neither was Aandraya. Some people think this is a bug (external), I don't think that. It feels internal to me and external. The jury is out on that. >>> >> Re: New to this group, and I hope you can help me >>I went to Dr. Zhang and he gave me some pills to keep taking to desensitize me, problem is he didn't believe they could be living on me or in me and now after 2

weeks I'm feeling a lot more pin bricks all over me all the time whereas before I was mainly getting bites on my feet and fingers at night..I think the idea of desensitizing is a good one as I still think these mites are around my daughter's family and cats but they're not bothered whereas I am but the fact that I'm not getting something to also kill them worries me since I'm feeling worse and feeling that he doesn't fully comprehend my situation and therefore I'm not being treated properly and may just be making my situation worse. >> >> > >> > >> > Hello all, I know, after reading many of the posts here, that many of >> > you are suffering terribly from multiple diseases, perhaps caused by >> > bird mites, perhaps not. I can't really tell as I am joining in the >> > middle of some of your discussions. >> > >> > But, I could really use some advice from people who are undergoing >> > issues with bird mites or have undergone them. >> > >> > I guess I was living in blissful ignorance up til now. Wish I could go >> > back to that time before I ever heard of bird mites. I raised >> > canaries. Well, I took them over from my father when he passed away a >> > year ago. One day I noticed these little brown specks jumping onto my >> > hand from the

bird cages. Lots of calls and conversations with >> > Entomologists and Pest Controllers led me to understand that these >> > were red bird mites (chicken mites). I already had been scratching a >> > lot and thought it was fleas from my dogs. So, I got rid of all my >> > birds. I have an impaired immune system due to a rare disease called >> > Dercums. Lots of pain and fatigue and many other things. >> > >> > After giving all of my birds to a fellow bird fancier, I immediately >> > fumigated my home. (Nygaard IGR with Onslaught and DE for the attic). >> > This seemed to help for a day or two and then I was attacked in droves >> > of them (having no bird to feed on, I was the next best. along with my >> > little dog, who is old and not well. My teen age son and his younger >> > dog have been fairly

unaffected). I did everything I could. I vacuumed >> > constantly, sprayed with ammonia, bleach, kleen free, washed all my >> > clothes in hot water with borax and ammonia, etc. etc.). But after >> > three weeks I could not take it any longer. So, called Pest Company >> > back out and they treated again. This time with a product called >> > Zenprox. This time I went through all of my closets and threw away >> > almost all of my clothes. What I kept went into plastic bags with moth >> > balls and were kept outside or in the garage. Again, the mites >> > returned. So a couple of days ago, the Pest Control company came out >> > and sprayed again with Onslaught and an exciter (don't know the >> > product name) and drilled holds into the walls where the mites were >> > the worst (like my bedroom and the room where the

birds had been kept) >> > and put a fogger into the walls. I had been away for a week in a local >> > motel just so I could get some rest and to combat multiple cold sores >> > and a bladder infection. Upon returning yesterday I noticed the mites >> > are still here. Relentless. I even started wearing a dog collar at >> > night to keep them out of my mouth. >> > >> > That is the absolute worst thing that has been happening. They just >> > won't stay out of my mouth. I am constantly coughing up mites. I am >> > gargling incessantly and wear Vicks Vapor Rub all over my mouth, nose >> > and neck to discourage them during the day. But they still get in. I >> > have been battling these mites for over 6 weeks now and nothing is >> > working. I spent 3 hours vacuuming yesterday but the PCO did not want

>> > me to doing anything other than that because she did not want anything >> > to counteract the fumigant. Most of my clothes I keep outside now >> > (even the ones that I wear). They are in plastic tubs with moth >> > chrystals in them. I am washing all my bed linens every day and >> > whatever clothes I have worn. This morning my back hurts between my >> > shoulder blades and I am coughing up brown stuff. I am very worried >> > that somehow mites have gotten into my lungs. I know they aren't >> > supposed to be able to live off of humans, nor are they supposed to >> > live inside a human body. But I can't say that I believe this. >> > >> > Has anyone in this group encountered anything similar to this? Or are >> > there any suggestions or advice anyone can give me. My daughter is >> >

getting married this summer and my happiness for her and ability to >> > help plan her wedding has all been destroyed by these mites. I just >> > don't know what to do. >> > >> > Forgive me please as I know many of you are suffering far worse than >> > me, but still, I could really use some help. >> > >> > Thank you so much and my best wishes to everyone here. >> > >> > Terry >> > >> > >> >>>>>------------------------------------ >>

April 11, 2012

Thanks agri

Yes someone found my phone so I was lucky but very embarased as had texts

refering to mites on it n instant acess to this website

But had bite bullet n get it back

Felt vulnerable exposed realy

Oh boy its after 5 n feet driving me crazy with realy itch

My lord when will this go away!!!

How are u aggi?

Wee dog nice n think she ok just normal scratching I think but it a worry

Hope u well x

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On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 04:58 PDT Aggi Assmann wrote:

>So glad you did C, did you get your lost phone back though ??

>Also good to hear that your derm. did take you serious and at least offered

something appropriate.

>Welcome back-hugs :-)

>

>________________________________

>Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...>

>An: bird mites

>Gesendet: 19:02 Montag, 9.April 2012

>Betreff: Re: Re:hi all

>

>Hi everyone I have my mobile internet back and running

>:-)

>X

>

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>On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 11:59 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>

>>Hi dear miteymaid...

>>

>>These things always in my experience get worse before they get better... that

has happened to me even with antibiotics. I have very little happening at the

moment, but it has been many months of vigilence and using antibiotics. I don't

know what Dr. Zhang's track record is with our problem(s). He may be slightly

off the mark, meaning you may have other things going on that were not

addressed... is he addressing Lyme and coinfections? My understanding through

reading is that Lyme always comes with mycoplasma... the fact that the rest of

the family is not attracting or sensitive tells me your issues are internal.

Just my thought. And by the way, sorry we didn't do a phone conference. I was

not doing well and neither was Aandraya. Some people think this is a bug

(external), I don't think that. It feels internal to me and external. The jury

is out on that.