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Are you worried they might vax her at school without your knowledge? If so, tell

them now that you expect to give consent for anything like that. There is no law

that you have to give a swine flu vax (since one doesn't even exist) so if one

came to be, you cannot be required to give it to her. It is nothing you need an

exemption for.

Winnie

Re: Question

Vaccinations

> I have a quick question for anyone that can help. My daughter

> is in elementary school (private) and I never put an exemption

> in yet, because she and my older son are up to date. My

> youngest only received a few vaxes and I never put in our

> religious exemption. He does not attend school yet and I

> figured my daughter will probably only be in the private school

> for one more year and they were giving me a hard time when I

> mentioned exemptions. My question is, am I up a creek for not

> putting in an exemption yet? Can I be accused of being

> neglectful for not continuing any vaccines? I plan on putting

> the exemption in, but I was going to wait so I don't have any

> issues this year at my daughter's school. Now with all this

> swine flu scare, I am even more nervous. If they can mandate

> shots for everyone and even plan to have shot clinics in our

> schools, who knows what else they can plan on.

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I might have missed a post or two - but were you able to hook up with her, or

are you referring to Dr. Spencer?

Also, what does " signing off " mean? Would that mean " stamp of approval " or an

actual permission of sorts to do her protocol?

The reason I ask is because Dr. Staninger is not an MD, and her patients do have

to have an MD working with them in order for her to work with you (this is new).

Dr. Spencer is a practicing MD (neurologist) who shouldn't need another doctor

to be involved (unless, I guess, if you aren't going to see him in his office).

Generally speaking, the protocol involves NO prescription drugs, no chemicals,

and lots & lots of supplements as well as devices such as FarInfrared.

The blood work is very extensive. If your insurance doesn't pay for it, I

understand the cost is about $6,000!! (This is why I am so upset that I have

not gotten a written report).

Bessie

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> My naturopath doesn't want to sign off on staninger until he knows a little

bit more about her methods. Could someone please tell me what kind of advice

she gives over the phone as an example or how she helps you out? Also what she

exactly the blood tests are for? Silicon?

>

[Guest guest]

Wow Bessie, that must be extensive, I would be really upset too! Maybe you could have them mail you the results--I guess it would need to be read by a physician that know about this disease. Good Luck

From: bessieglavas <bessieglavas@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:47:26 PMSubject: Re: Question

-I might have missed a post or two - but were you able to hook up with her, or are you referring to Dr. Spencer?Also, what does "signing off" mean? Would that mean "stamp of approval" or an actual permission of sorts to do her protocol?The reason I ask is because Dr. Staninger is not an MD, and her patients do have to have an MD working with them in order for her to work with you (this is new). Dr. Spencer is a practicing MD (neurologist) who shouldn't need another doctor to be involved (unless, I guess, if you aren't going to see him in his office).Generally speaking, the protocol involves NO prescription drugs, no chemicals, and lots & lots of supplements as well as devices such as FarInfrared.The blood work is very extensive. If your insurance doesn't pay for it, I understand the cost is about $6,000!! (This is why I am so upset that I have not gotten a written report).Bessie >> My naturopath doesn't want to sign off on staninger until he knows a little bit more about her methods. Could someone please tell me what kind of advice she gives over the phone as an example or how she helps you out? Also what she exactly the blood tests are for? Silicon?>

[Guest guest]

Rush -

My insurance paid for them....never the less....

I have a copy of the results, but she tests for all kinds of things and puts it

all together in something called a " toxicological dysfunction analysis " . That

is the report I am waiting for.

Bessie

> >

> > My naturopath doesn't want to sign off on staninger until he knows a little

bit more about her methods. Could someone please tell me what kind of advice she

gives over the phone as an example or how she helps you out? Also what she

exactly the blood tests are for? Silicon?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Spencer has not called me back. When I called the number the person who

answered it said he had an " interest " in it; not that he treats it. That is why

I think I'm going to have to go with Staninger.

> >

> > My naturopath doesn't want to sign off on staninger until he knows a little

bit more about her methods. Could someone please tell me what kind of advice

she gives over the phone as an example or how she helps you out? Also what she

exactly the blood tests are for? Silicon?

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I think you should email her and tell her what happened so that she stops

referring people to him.

If she's not taking any more patients, I don't know what you will do. She is in

over her head and so far behind I doubt she'll get caught up unless she gets

office/clinical support. She answers the phones, fills orders, answers emails,

is writing a book, trying to get a study published, and somewhere in there she

tries to take care of patients.

Would you be able to see her in her office (i.e., do you live near L.A.?). That

might make a difference.

Good luck whatever you choose!

Bessie

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> > > My naturopath doesn't want to sign off on staninger until he knows a

little bit more about her methods. Could someone please tell me what kind of

advice she gives over the phone as an example or how she helps you out? Also

what she exactly the blood tests are for? Silicon?

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He did end up calling me back but I missed his call. I'm going to try again.

I'm going to consult with Staninger after all though. I figure having his

contact as back up can't hurt though. To anyone considering consulting with her

I would do it soon, they emailed me that she won't be doing it much longer.

> > > >

> > > > My naturopath doesn't want to sign off on staninger until he knows a

little bit more about her methods. Could someone please tell me what kind of

advice she gives over the phone as an example or how she helps you out? Also

what she exactly the blood tests are for? Silicon?

> > > >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,

 

I am brewing water grains now. Love it heaps. When I have too much to consume,

what should I do to keep them happy at room temperature.

 

How do you normally ship the water grains, dry or fresh ?

 

Thanks,

Shirl

From: Janet <janto@...>

Subject: question

Date: Thursday, 10 September, 2009, 5:20 AM

 

How do I use my water grains? Do I ferment them on the counter or in the fridge?

I know I should know, but I have lost my instructions before I got them!

Janet in NW Oklahoma

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Always leave them at room temp. They hate it cold.

Marilyn

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Hi Shirl,

You can dry all your extra water grains for sharing purposes. Or you can eat

them. To keep them happy at room temp you still have to feed them regularly.

I normally ship water grains fresh to the people in the states, but dried if

there will be shipping delays of over a week, like to Canada or overseas.

Marilyn

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Ooi <shiooi@...> wrote:

> Hi Marilyn,

>

> I am brewing water grains now. Love it heaps. When I have too much to

> consume, what should I do to keep them happy at room temperature.

>

> How do you normally ship the water grains, dry or fresh ?

>

> Thanks,

> Shirl

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am so glad for the questions asked. I have been reading and learning. My

challenge is trying to figure out how to get grains to my daughter in

Central Europe. From what I understand from these messages is that I can

just pull the grains before I leave on the airplane to visit her next month

and not worry about them being in milk. Correct?

It is about a 16 hour trip plus time to say hello, settle in, and then get

to the grains.

Thank you all, you are truly my kefir mentors

Margy

[Guest guest]

Thanks! How long do I let the water grains sit and how often do I feed them?

Also, one set of water grains formed a Kombucha type mushroom...can I use it to

make a drink or do I toss it? Sorry for the delay in questions, but I have been

experiencing computer problems and have not had time to mess with them as of

yet!

Janet in NW Oklahoma

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Janet <janto@...> wrote:

> Thanks! How long do I let the water grains sit and how often do I feed

> them?

You strain them when it is " done " . That means before all the sugar is

completely used up and it is so sour you can't drink it. It should be

pleasantly tart.

> Also, one set of water grains formed a Kombucha type mushroom...can I use

> it to make a drink or do I toss it?

I pitch those.

Marilyn

> Sorry for the delay in questions, but I have been experiencing computer

> problems and have not had time to mess with them as of yet!

> Janet in NW Oklahoma

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Marilyn,

I was tempted to use it to try to make vinegar out of my husbands homemade wine.

Are the water crystals that formed the mushroom still ok to use?

Janet in NW Oklahoma

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I don't know why they wouldn't still work.

You can use the scoby for vinegar if you want. When you give your wine oxygen,

it will form its own scoby.

Marilyn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/29/2009 2:34:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jaime_thompson06@... writes:

Is there anything I should do to help keep them from getting one of the things they have been exposed to? Thanks!!

I personally wouldn't even bat an eye. We are all around newly vaxed people all the time w/o knowing it. Just keep up the good diet, lots of sunshine, etc for you and the kids!

Holly

[Guest guest]

Sunshine and vita C, some magnesium too and zinc if they’re

co-operative.

Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 16, Jon 14, 12,

10, 7, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 3 and Isaac, 1

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to make them all yourself.

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I Understand how you feel. We were adventurous and went to the zoo Sunday afternoon. While sitting and observing the gorillas, a two year old sneezed straight into my 6mo daughter's face. I wanted to ask if she recently had vax for preschool but I bit my tongue. As we were leaving the exhibit, another child coughed repeatedly! We are soaking up the sunshine, when it shines, staying active, eating smart, taking our supps. and hoping we see May 2010 with all six of us safe from this manmade madness. Not sure what we'll do next week when they start lining up for shots. I have told our friends not to visit for a full month after any vax. Our Realtor's wife is sick with seasonal flu and a close friend of my 17yo is in the hospital with "swine" flu. So far no one else in our circle is sick. A school about 12 miles away had 60 students out last Wed. then 160 out on Thur. School was cancelled until today. My mommy

instincts tell me to stay home for a few weeks and see what happens. Toni Sent from my iPhoneNmidaughterseyes@...On Sep 29, 2009, at 2:33 PM, "jaime_thompson06" <jaime_thompson06@...> wrote:

I know this has been discussed before, but I can't remember what the answers were, and I am feeling a little paranoid right now...earler this morning, I met up with one of my friends, and her little 3 mo. old had a bandaid on his leg. I asked about it, even though I knew it was from shots. Anyways,the mom told me that both he and his 2 yr old sister had shots yesterday, and when I asked which ones, she said she didn't know, other than the 2 yr old getting MMR. She just said all the usual ones(Ugh!). So, my question is what are the chances of my 2 yr old and 6 mo old getting something from them? Is there anything I should do to help keep them from getting one of the things they have been exposed to? Thanks!!

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Yeah, I guess that makes sense, huh! I suppose I wouldn't have even thought about it if I didn't notice the bandaid on the poor little guy. Thanks!

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From: mensrea320@... <mensrea320@...>Subject: Re: questionVaccinations Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 6:41 PM

In a message dated 9/29/2009 2:34:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jaime_thompson06 writes:

Is there anything I should do to help keep them from getting one of the things they have been exposed to? Thanks!!

I personally wouldn't even bat an eye. We are all around newly vaxed people all the time w/o knowing it. Just keep up the good diet, lots of sunshine, etc for you and the kids!

Holly

[Guest guest]

Mom got talked into the shingles vax. Cost her nearly $190, as I recall..

very expensive, if you ask me. maybe it was 90 .. I don’t recall now

exactly how much.. anyway, we have not had any problems. she hasn’t.. I say

that but she’s got a lot of issues and I wonder how much of it maybe

stems from the damage vaccines cause. Don’t know. She used to get a flu

shot too but not every year. When she worked at walter reed army med

center in DC she had to get one every year….

Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 16, Jon 14, 12,

10, 7, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 3 and Isaac, 1

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necessarily current pictures

http://nitasspot.blogspot.com

Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough

to make them all yourself.

[Guest guest]

(http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/shingles/vac-faqs-hcp.htm)

Per the CDC: "Transmission of the zoster (shingles) vaccine-associated virus has never been documented." That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, just that it's not been documented.

Oh, this is great: "Should the zoster (shingles) vaccine be given to people who have already had shingles?

Yes, it should be given regardless of a history of shingles. Shingles does recur, and there is no biological or epidemiological evidence to indicate that persons are at reduced risk for shingles for any period of time following a prior episode of shingles."

So, if having shingles doesn't confer immunity, then why would the vaccine have special powers?

Winnie

questionVaccinations > My mother in law is going to get the shingles shot. There is no > talking her out of it, so I haven't even tried. So here is my > question: my 5 year old son has never had the chicken pox shot, > could he catch the chicken pox from my mother in law after she > gets the shingles vax? Is that vax a live virus? > > Janice Ward> >

[Guest guest]

It could be die off. Go to 1/2 teaspoon tomorrow and take note of any die

off reactions. You may have to only take this small amount every other day

and build up gradually.

Marilyn

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Diane <yarn56401@...> wrote:

> I took 1/2T of kefir today.Been taking less before that.Today my intestines

> are rumbling i gassy and feel like I have to run to the bathroom all the

> time.Is this an allergy?

> Diane

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[Guest guest]

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> I took 1/2T of kefir today.Been taking less before that.Today my intestines

are rumbling i gassy and feel like I have to run to the bathroom all the time.Is

this an allergy?

> Diane

>

I do get gas with milk, or kefirized milk. More so with empty stomach. A

little less so with [hot/cold milk + coco powder + sugar]. I have much less gas

with regular (non kefirized) milk shake. Better yet, I don't notice much if any

with regular (non kefirized) ice cream. So I suppose sugar, or cream help

dilute the milk in my case. I don't normally eat much cheese, or snacking on

cheese alone, but I could probably say it is in the range of milk shake to ice

cream for me.

Now that you mention it, I think I may get a touch less of those symptoms

compare to when I started taking kefirized milk. Or maybe it could be that now

I take it with food (or cereals) instead of drinking it alone (with or without

sugar) on empty stomach.

Jimmy

[Guest guest]

I have purchased an organic raw kombucha drink with the " raw kombucha " in

it...can that be saved and reused or should I just drink it?

Kandy

[Guest guest]

I do many domestic and farm.

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> I believe I've asked this before (many months ago) but, how many of you guys

own pets?

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> D.

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[Guest guest]

cats..but have never seen them scratch at all they have never had fleas

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From: " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

bird mites

Subject: Re: Question

Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:01:40 -0000

I do many domestic and farm.

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> I believe I've asked this before (many months ago) but, how many of you guys

own pets?

>

> D.

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[Guest guest]

One very large lab mix.

Question

I believe I've asked this before (many months ago) but, how many of you guys own pets?D.