UPDATE

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Frito,

Please forward to me, too.

Much love,

Pamela

From: bird mites [mailto:bird mites ] On Behalf Of savemyskin4me

Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008

12:10 AM

bird mites

Subject: Re: Update

Frito,

Could you please forward to me as well??

Thank You

> > >

> > > I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I have

> > finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a

> > positive for Lyme.. I was not tested for co-infections but I and

> > especially my son have every skin symptom associated with

> Bartonella.

> > The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance,

> mole

> > appearance, etc. So from bird mites to this.....Best to

> all......Frito

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Frito, if it's not too much to ask, I'd also like to read ur

stuff. If you get a chance to send it my way, I'd appreciate it!

Thank you, chasity

> > > > >

> > > > > I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I

have

> > > > finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to

be a

> > > > positive for Lyme.. I was not tested for co-infections but I

and

> > > > especially my son have every skin symptom associated with

> > > Bartonella.

> > > > The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle

appearance,

> > > mole

> > > > appearance, etc. So from bird mites to this.....Best to

> > > all......Frito

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

>

> Pamela and Chas.......on its way, again I hope you find it 

helpful.....Frito

>

[Guest guest]

>They even tried some that were not FDA approved

My m-i-l's oncologist was doing that for her leukemia near the end. He

tried everything, including giving her acne meds that had a rare side

effect that might have helped her white count. Unfortunately, she didn't

get the rare side effect.

>I guess we should've been prepared, but

> for some reason the whole family has been living in denial.

Who *wants* to accept the truth?

> Oh yes, they have talked about hospice, but neither he nor my mom are

> ready for that yet. I don't know about hospice around there, but the

> one that we used you could no longer have blood transfusions or IV's

> of any kind, as I recall (and I might be wrong) they wouldn't even

> allow antibiotics. I am sure when the time comes they will give them a

> call.

Yeah, no IV's or tube feedings, only basics like oxygen and catheters.

My step-mom was told not to even call 911 if anything happened, just

call the hospice nurse if anything happened to my dad and she would

decide what to do.

> I'll be praying for All of you!

And me for you. As it turned out, Ed's fine, at least for now, but he'll

have to have everything repeated yearly just to make sure, especially if

the foot problem doesn't improve.

I can go from being just fine to on

> the verge of tears in a matter of minutes. Especially when I am on

> the phone with dad and he is telling me how much he appreciates

> everything we have done for him and so on....

I still have part of my dad's last phone conversation on our answering

machine. I told the guys not to dare erase it.

> I seem to do ok with sugary stuff, it is chocolate that if I have

> it....

Not just the sugar but the fat and caffeine combine for that total

heavenly experience. LOL

> Yep... sitting right there for the eating! What is worse is the sea

> foam....

Should I be happy that I have no idea what sea foam is, except for

something pertaining to the ocean shoreline?

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

Hi Rueful,Glad to hear they did not treat you poorly. As far as your question, I am not sure. You seemed to feel that a lot of the symptoms shared on this site fit your criteria. If you are experiencing crawling sensations and sharp shouting pin pricks that would be a good indicator as these are generally not s/s of hives. Good luck,J. From: rueful_existance <jellosox@...>Subject: Updatebird mites Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:02 PM

so i went to the derm doc today. luckily they took to the mite idea

without any hesitation. the downside is that they didn't think my

hives reaction could be from them, as i have no typical bite patterns

that would indicate it.

they did recommend me to an allergist, so hopefully that leads somewhere.

but i am still wondering what the chances are that i have the mites?

[Guest guest]

Hi Rueful,

I wonder if it could be that you are just very allergic to birds?

Sometimes feelings associated with hives will involve a pin prick

sensation.

Hmmmm....

Am glad that your Derm didn't shut you out, but instead is willing to

try and help.

My best wishes to you...

Trly

>

> so i went to the derm doc today. luckily they took to the mite idea

> without any hesitation. the downside is that they didn't think my

> hives reaction could be from them, as i have no typical bite

patterns

> that would indicate it.

>

> they did recommend me to an allergist, so hopefully that leads

somewhere.

>

> but i am still wondering what the chances are that i have the mites?

>

[Guest guest]

Rueful,

Wishing you luck.

J.

From: rueful_existance <jellosox@...>Subject: Updatebird mites Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:02 PM

so i went to the derm doc today. luckily they took to the mite ideawithout any hesitation. the downside is that they didn't think myhives reaction could be from them, as i have no typical bite patternsthat would indicate it.they did recommend me to an allergist, so hopefully that leads somewhere.but i am still wondering what the chances are that i have the mites?

[Guest guest]

WOW - hugs to you all and prayers that everyone else is safe around the world.

I knew there were ice storms going on back east, but didn't know who it was affecting. I am very limited to internet right now, so will check in as I can also.

Hugs-

UPDATE

Well, I am sorry I have been MIA. I lost power last fri at 2 am. Do to the worst ice storm in NH history. Finally got power back last night late. LOTS of drama drama. BUT we survived. HUBBY says it will make me stronger. LOL Have lots to do today to catch up. So I will email with more details later. BUT if I dont get back before next week.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS to all.

NH

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[Guest guest]

> Well, I am sorry I have been MIA. I lost power last fri at 2 am.

When I heard there were a few million people up your way without power I

assumed that's what happened. At least you got it back before Christmas

week itself, so now you can do all the stuff you couldn't do to get

ready.

Merry Christmas to you & your family too, . With the girls home for

vacation soon I guess we won't see you again until January when they go

back to school. See you on the flip side.

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

Lol the 70's huh? Thats great! I was wondering what the recipe for

the borax-peroxide-water solution is? Also if anyone knows how to

dilute food grade 35%(?) h202 to the weaker solution that they sell

in stores. I have just ordered a parasite cleanse called Revoxil that

Z recommends. I think i may be herxing from the ivermectin because

the only time i have any relief is when im wearing the roach prufe. I

think the new hope 2 is pulling them out but they are still alive,

then the roach prufe kills them. So im rotating. I would like to try

the borax solution because i am still wary of the roach prufe. I know

it works though, im doing much much better on my scalp. Using the

bellow duster to dust it in my hair and on my scalp is the best thing

i ever did. I swear after the first time i applied it really well,

most of them died up there. I think they live in our hair as well, so

they can dodge the liquid things we are using. My duster broke though

im still trying to work out ordering another one. So worth it to get

them out of my scalp. My face is infested the worst. I think it is

because i didnt ever apply the roach prufe to it in the beginning. i

was too scared to. I am applying it very lightly now. Just an update.

More later.

Love and luck

Holly

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > What product best to heal skin after herxing hundreds?

> > > >

> > > > Although the devastation is not visible to the naked eye,

once

> the

> > > > herxing really got under way, I can no longer put a lot of

> things

> > > on my

> > > > skin that I did before--and I'm not talking toxic stuff, just

> > things

> > > > designed to burn a bit such as anything with clove oil,

citrus,

> > like

> > > > that.

> > > >

> > > > I need to know what is the most rapid and cost-effective way

to

> > > heal my

> > > > skin?

> > > >

> > > > * ESP New Hope I or II balm? serum? lotion bar? soap?

> shampoo?

> > > > * DSP product (if so, which)?

> > > > * MSM lotion?

> > > > * Other?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Search Doe's posts for the recipe, but you use 1 part h2o2 to 2

parts water and just a tiny amount of whatever borate you have. I

used borax bec I'm scared of boric acid.

btw while i am herxing it is like my body is covered in invisible but

raw open sores. I can also feel lumpy stuff under my skin where I

thought I had no issues, and then a couple days after the lumpy stuff

becomes apparent I start shedding in that spot like crazy. The deeper

the tissue, the more stuff is in there and the longer it takes to get

it out from all the levels of fat etc...

anyway, my point is, I put the same h2o2 (weaker than Doe's)

strength on my skin the third day after I really started shedding and

felt like a wire was sticking in every pore. What was happening was I

was short circuiting myself since I had all those new paths into my

body and thus ready access for the h2o2 to shock all those nerves

that hadn't previously been accessible from above. I won't put any

more h2o2 on my body until it finishes herxing and heals up, IF THEN.

Be careful, it might not happen with your skin, but be ready to wash

it right off it the h2o2 creates the same reaction in your skin.

I have ordered a case of the Roach Prufe, which I plan to use in my

environment wherever I can get it in or under everything. I will test

it on my body but really don't want to do any more borates on my skin

ever, unless I am desperate. Less toxic, if still not really good for

me, is the Pink Oil, which I have had to reach for since it controls

both the itching and the biting during the herxing. Have been

experimenting with healthier organic oils, adding tea tree seems to

be somewhat helpful, but PO still kicks butt. Trying to quit,

though...

Hang n there, sweetie

katie

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > What product best to heal skin after herxing hundreds?

> > > > >

> > > > > Although the devastation is not visible to the naked eye,

> once

> > the

> > > > > herxing really got under way, I can no longer put a lot of

> > things

> > > > on my

> > > > > skin that I did before--and I'm not talking toxic stuff,

just

> > > things

> > > > > designed to burn a bit such as anything with clove oil,

> citrus,

> > > like

> > > > > that.

> > > > >

> > > > > I need to know what is the most rapid and cost-effective

way

> to

> > > > heal my

> > > > > skin?

> > > > >

> > > > > * ESP New Hope I or II balm? serum? lotion bar? soap?

> > shampoo?

> > > > > * DSP product (if so, which)?

> > > > > * MSM lotion?

> > > > > * Other?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Not that we are aware of...

Rgs

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Subject: Update

I haven't seen any post in the last few days. Is there a problem with the

site?

Cheers, JT

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Holly, I too had problems with the windex and ammonia hurting my lungs...Learned my lesson, never again!>> My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent had time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for getting them deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing them out. My skin has been purging which i have never experienced before. We still have not cleaned out our attic though and i know they're up there just waiting for me. Im going to spend a couple of days snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is good with no mites there to ruin every second of every day. > I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected from the floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i had some lung problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily with Windex, and accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE kicked up much much more than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So please be careful when using windex or DE. I have never had that problem with RP.>

[Guest guest]

Hey Holly,

Have you thought about heat treating the attic?? I am about to start getting things together to do that. Zmooks had excellent results with it--two years and still no problems.

From: dammitgrl2001 <dammitgrl2001@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 5:16:53 PMSubject: Re: Update

Holly, I too had problems with the windex and ammonia hurting my lungs...Learned my lesson, never again!>> My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent had time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for getting them deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing them out. My skin has been purging which i have never experienced before. We still have not cleaned out our attic though and i know they're up there just waiting for me. Im going to spend a couple of days snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is good with no mites there to ruin every second of every day. > I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected from the floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i had some lung problems with it. I

had sprayed out our rental car heavily with Windex, and accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE kicked up much much more than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So please be careful when using windex or DE. I have never had that problem with RP.>

[Guest guest]

I dont think theres a way to do that here in small town Pennsylvania. From what

i remember about it the heaters need to be outside, and the attic is basically

like my third story.

> >

> > My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent had

time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for getting them

deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing them out. My skin

has been purging which i have never experienced before. We still have not

cleaned out our attic though and i know they're up there just waiting for me. Im

going to spend a couple of days snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is

good with no mites there to ruin every second of every day.

> > I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected from the

floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i had some lung

problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily with Windex, and

accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE kicked up much much more

than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So please be careful when using

windex or DE. I have never had that problem with RP.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Holly, my brother has an electric torpedo that he uses to heat his garage

instead of propane one. Might be a thought to try. I was thinking of using it

room by room in the house. Not sure of the temp. ranges that it is capable of

but on a hot day the attic is already warm...

b

> > >

> > > My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent had

time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for getting them

deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing them out. My skin

has been purging which i have never experienced before. We still have not

cleaned out our attic though and i know they're up there just waiting for me. Im

going to spend a couple of days snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is

good with no mites there to ruin every second of every day.

> > > I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected from

the floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i had some lung

problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily with Windex, and

accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE kicked up much much more

than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So please be careful when using

windex or DE. I have never had that problem with RP.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Can you rent this heater?

> > > >

> > > > My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent had

time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for getting them

deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing them out. My skin

has been purging which i have never experienced before. We still have not

cleaned out our attic though and i know they're up there just waiting for me. Im

going to spend a couple of days snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is

good with no mites there to ruin every second of every day.

> > > > I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected from

the floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i had some lung

problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily with Windex, and

accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE kicked up much much more

than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So please be careful when using

windex or DE. I have never had that problem with RP.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Holly,

I'm happy to hear that you are clear again.

When you say purging, what exactly do you

mean. Is it when you can feel the little demons

coming out?

I thought I was almost done with this nightmare,

but they have flared up again!!!!

I'm so afraid that someone that I work with

will end up with these nasty things. I'm so sick

of worrying, and dealing with them. I just want

it over.

When I went to work the other day, my head

was feeling somewhat crawly. I got a couple of

bites/hives. At the end of the day, I had taken

some papers out of a file to go through, and I ended

up with many little bites/hives all on the inside of

my right arm (some on my left too). I was so

discouraged, with the bites and the crawly head,

so when I got home I dampened my

hair, and put some of the ESP shampoo on my head

and covered it with a shower cap (yes, I finally found

them at Walmart). You're only supposed to use a

small amount of this shampoo, but I used a lot,

and left it on for several hours.

That was a mistake, as now my scalp feels

like leather. My head has been crawly for the

last couple of days. I'm still using the ESP

bar soap rubbed onto my hair, and scalp at night

to go to sleep with.

It's so hard to feel, and do normal things when

this is going on. I really need something to

moisturize my scalp. I picked up some Tea Tree

Oil - skin and scalp treatment. It's a little 2 oz.

bottle, I found it a Walmart today.

I have and have had RP down for quite some

time. I know it's hard around here, because

we are also fighting to keep/get them off of

our dogs. I have two and my brother has one.

All three our Miniature Schnauzers.

Could you explain what your purging is like.

I don't see anything coming out of my skin, but

I can feel them coming/crawling out of my scalp.

Sincerely,

Bummed out Sue

My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent had time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for getting them deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing them out. My skin has been purging which i have never experienced before. We still have not cleaned out our attic though and i know they're up there just waiting for me. Im going to spend a couple of days snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is good with no mites there to ruin every second of every day. I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected from the floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i had some lung problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily with Windex, and accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE kicked up much much more than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So please be careful when using windex or DE. I have never had that problem with RP.

[Guest guest]

It definately sounds like you are purging. The thing is that you want to kill

them when they come out because they get in your environment. Rp in my hair did

the job.

You will go through that with the ESP. It gets worse then better, then all over

again. In the beginning purging felt just like that-crawly. I couldnt tell

either, but in retrospect yes it was purging. But now that im free it happens

when i get in the shower. I will feel an itchy spot, and i will go to scratch

and there will be a bunch of gritty sand feeling things there. That went on for

a week. Now when it happens there is only one grainy feeling thing. I think this

is what the final purge is like. I also frequently felt this on my hands after

using hand sanitizer.

Is there any gyms in your area? Would do you some good to find a sauna. You can

take measures to not infect other people. The best way that i found to kill them

when my scalp was crawly was to dust Rp in my hair. They cant live in your hair

with it in there. Nobody ever knew i had it in there either. I know how you feel

i work at a bar and i was always so paranoid about infecting people. Not to

mention holding my own baby. Luckily i never did. I also would puff roach prufe

all over me before i left the house and on the bottoms of my shoes. I felt that

this helped with passing them on. Keep up the good work and always do your best

about not infecting people, and you hopefully wont. Also use alot of hand

sanitizer. If you can bring those files home to bake that would be the best or

put menthol crystals in that file cabinet. Sorry for typos my kids are waiting

to watch a movie and snuggle.

Love and Luck

Holly

>

> Hi Holly,

>

> I'm happy to hear that you are clear again.

> When you say purging, what exactly do you

> mean. Is it when you can feel the little demons

> coming out?

>

> I thought I was almost done with this nightmare,

> but they have flared up again!!!!

>

> I'm so afraid that someone that I work with

> will end up with these nasty things. I'm so sick

> of worrying, and dealing with them. I just want

> it over.

>

> When I went to work the other day, my head

> was feeling somewhat crawly. I got a couple of

> bites/hives. At the end of the day, I had taken

> some papers out of a file to go through, and I ended

> up with many little bites/hives all on the inside of

> my right arm (some on my left too). I was so

> discouraged, with the bites and the crawly head,

> so when I got home I dampened my

> hair, and put some of the ESP shampoo on my head

> and covered it with a shower cap (yes, I finally found

> them at Walmart). You're only supposed to use a

> small amount of this shampoo, but I used a lot,

> and left it on for several hours.

> That was a mistake, as now my scalp feels

> like leather. My head has been crawly for the

> last couple of days. I'm still using the ESP

> bar soap rubbed onto my hair, and scalp at night

> to go to sleep with.

>

> It's so hard to feel, and do normal things when

> this is going on. I really need something to

> moisturize my scalp. I picked up some Tea Tree

> Oil - skin and scalp treatment. It's a little 2 oz.

> bottle, I found it a Walmart today.

>

> I have and have had RP down for quite some

> time. I know it's hard around here, because

> we are also fighting to keep/get them off of

> our dogs. I have two and my brother has one.

> All three our Miniature Schnauzers.

>

> Could you explain what your purging is like.

> I don't see anything coming out of my skin, but

> I can feel them coming/crawling out of my scalp.

>

> Sincerely,

> Bummed out Sue

>

>

>

> My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent had

time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for getting them

deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing them out. My skin

has been purging which i have never experienced before. We still have not

cleaned out our attic though and i know they're up there just waiting for me. Im

going to spend a couple of days snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is

good with no mites there to ruin every second of every day.

> I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected from the

floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i had some lung

problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily with Windex, and

accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE kicked up much much more

than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So please be careful when using

windex or DE. I have never had that problem with RP.

>

[Guest guest]

Holly I am so happy to hear this. You are getting to be a pro at this. I too am felling so much better.I am going to wait a few more weeks to make sure this is real "I am always waiting for the other shoe to drop" then I will post how I am doing it. You guys won't believe some of the things that are helping me. Take care! TommyFrom: Holly <hollyjane11@...>Subject: Updatebird mites Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:38 PM

My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent had time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for getting them deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing them out. My skin has been purging which i have never experienced before. We still have not cleaned out our attic though and i know they're up there just waiting for me. Im going to spend a couple of days snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is good with no mites there to ruin every second of every day.

I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected from the floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i had some lung problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily with Windex, and accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE kicked up much much more than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So please be careful when using windex or DE. I have never had that problem with RP.

[Guest guest]

Holly, can u put a bug zapper like mine up there? I hang mine on a portable light stand...I hang it in the kitchen then switch it to the living room. I posted about it before, dont know if u read it. It uses the blacklight to draw them in and whamo...lol. Plus I bought a ionic pro from walmart and run it constantly...100 dollars i think. I keep it in my bedroom and I believe it works. My own personal opinion but maybe if you put these two things up there and let them run for a while.....hmmm, might help. Oh yeah, found an incense at the health food store one time made from NEEM oil. Maybe you could burn some on the ladder and blow it up that way with a fan...Let me know if u want some and when i go back to our hfs I'll grab u some. ttyl, chas> >> > My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent had time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for getting them deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing them out. My skin has been purging which i have never experienced before. We still have not cleaned out our attic though and i know they're up there just waiting for me. Im going to spend a couple of days snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is good with no mites there to ruin every second of every day. > > I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected from the floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i had some lung problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily with Windex, and accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE kicked up much much more than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So please be careful when using windex or DE. I have never had that problem with RP.> >>

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Hey....put some coconut oil(walmart cooking oil section, Louana brand 5 bucks) on ur scalp at night...put a shower cap on and warm up a towel...put it over ur shower cap and lay down like that. You can just sleep with the cap on and shampoo like normal in the morning. It will help ur scalp and its not too hard to get out...Suave daily clarifying should get it out. Hope u find relief! chas>> Hi Holly,> > I'm happy to hear that you are clear again.> When you say purging, what exactly do you> mean. Is it when you can feel the little demons> coming out?> > I thought I was almost done with this nightmare,> but they have flared up again!!!! :(> > I'm so afraid that someone that I work with> will end up with these nasty things. I'm so sick> of worrying, and dealing with them. I just want> it over.> > When I went to work the other day, my head > was feeling somewhat crawly. I got a couple of> bites/hives. At the end of the day, I had taken> some papers out of a file to go through, and I ended> up with many little bites/hives all on the inside of> my right arm (some on my left too). I was so> discouraged, with the bites and the crawly head,> so when I got home I dampened my> hair, and put some of the ESP shampoo on my head> and covered it with a shower cap (yes, I finally found> them at Walmart). You're only supposed to use a > small amount of this shampoo, but I used a lot, > and left it on for several hours. > That was a mistake, as now my scalp feels > like leather. My head has been crawly for the > last couple of days. I'm still using the ESP> bar soap rubbed onto my hair, and scalp at night> to go to sleep with.> > It's so hard to feel, and do normal things when> this is going on. I really need something to> moisturize my scalp. I picked up some Tea Tree> Oil - skin and scalp treatment. It's a little 2 oz.> bottle, I found it a Walmart today. > > I have and have had RP down for quite some > time. I know it's hard around here, because> we are also fighting to keep/get them off of > our dogs. I have two and my brother has one.> All three our Miniature Schnauzers.> > Could you explain what your purging is like.> I don't see anything coming out of my skin, but> I can feel them coming/crawling out of my scalp. > > Sincerely,> Bummed out Sue> > > > My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent had time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for getting them deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing them out. My skin has been purging which i have never experienced before. We still have not cleaned out our attic though and i know they're up there just waiting for me. Im going to spend a couple of days snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is good with no mites there to ruin every second of every day. > I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected from the floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i had some lung problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily with Windex, and accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE kicked up much much more than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So please be careful when using windex or DE. I have never had that problem with RP.>

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I bought an outdoor bug zapper from HD - the $25 flourescent light one, not

black light one for $45 - and have it plugged in 24/7 in this " hot spot " . I

also have 2 ultrasonic bug repellers plugged in. It's been about 3 weeks now

but I don't think they're helping for me Results may vary from person to

person. One person on Finding 1 Cure swore by them.

-k

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> > > My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent

> had time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for

> getting them deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing

> them out. My skin has been purging which i have never experienced

> before. We still have not cleaned out our attic though and i know

> they're up there just waiting for me. Im going to spend a couple of days

> snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is good with no mites there

> to ruin every second of every day.

> > > I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected

> from the floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i

> had some lung problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily

> with Windex, and accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE

> kicked up much much more than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So

> please be careful when using windex or DE. I have never had that problem

> with RP.

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I have never gotten mine back from my father in law, i would rather avoid the

drama and leave it there. Im trying to not spend any more money right now

because i just ordered 2 lbs. of menthol crystals, and huge ESP order for me and

my mother. We want to save our money for our move. Cali is expensive.

I have RP everywhere up there, but when i was up there it felt like they were

jumping on us from the ceiling.

We have been thinking about buying a torpedo heater, using it then returning it.

Thats probably our best bet.

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> > > My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent

> had time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for

> getting them deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing

> them out. My skin has been purging which i have never experienced

> before. We still have not cleaned out our attic though and i know

> they're up there just waiting for me. Im going to spend a couple of days

> snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is good with no mites there

> to ruin every second of every day.

> > > I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected

> from the floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i

> had some lung problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily

> with Windex, and accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE

> kicked up much much more than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So

> please be careful when using windex or DE. I have never had that problem

> with RP.

> > >

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Tommy this is a good place to be. Even if you do become reinfected, it is much

easier to get free again since they will only be surface infested. If you do

feel something that means that you have hit a hot spot. When this happens to me,

i immediately throw my clothes in the oven, and hit the shower and masque with

NH2. Then spray anywhere you have touched, and the shower. Wash your clothes

when they get out of the oven.Keep any dirty clothes bagged. This is what has

helped me.

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> Subject: Update

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> My skin is clear again. I cleared it out with ESP NH2 soap. I havent had

time to go to the sauna as much. I think the sauna works more for getting them

deep out of your skin. The ESP has worked well for clearing them out. My skin

has been purging which i have never experienced before. We still have not

cleaned out our attic though and i know they're up there just waiting for me. Im

going to spend a couple of days snuggling my kids before i go up there. Life is

good with no mites there to ruin every second of every day.

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> I would have cleared them out earlier but i kept getting reinfected from the

floors. I put DE down heavily and it cleared it up. HOWEVER, i had some lung

problems with it. I had sprayed out our rental car heavily with Windex, and

accidentally breathed some in. Then i noticed the DE kicked up much much more

than the RP. My lungs were hurting so bad. So please be careful when using

windex or DE. I have never had that problem with RP.

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