Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 I am very keen on academics for my Tim (as oppossed to vals or cindys tim!), as has been said I can do the life skills stuff at home, and that remains true even now. But we have hit a problem with tim, which may or may not be problem that other vertically challenged children face. Tim simply cannot keep up physically. By the middle of the afternoon he is absolutely knackered and is fit for nothing, he falls asleep or becomes bolshy, either way he doesn't learn anything in that last session and often the last half of the first afternoon session is the same. So at least half and often more of the afternoon stuff is lost to him. Mornings are exclusively for numeracy and literacy, everything else is in the pm. So I have agreed to a compromise, a kind of unofficial and not strickly enforced life skills programme. If he is awake, aware and not bolshy he stays in the class, but if he is about to fall asleep, totally lost by the content or getting bolshy then he will do something different, anything from running messages (developes memory and independance) to going to the supermarket, to finding the local library or even just doing some PE outside. I don't want him to do this, I want him to stay in class and learn, but he isn't learning and its not a fault of the school but simply becoz he is so small he cannot manage what the other kids do, he gets tired having to fit into an enviroment and school day built and maintained for 7-11 year olds when he has the body of a 3-4 year old. And sadly this problem isn't going to go away, as he developes greater stamina the demands on him increase. So I am accepting 'life skills' becoz at least he will be learning something, even if it isn't strickly academic. And to be fair it isn't a set programme like many schools offer in the states, but a relief for a tired child. sue wong Val Surbey wrote: > This makes me think of the initial meeting I had with Tim's middle school at > the beginning of transitional planning for him. > > They were very proud of their lifeskills program and handed me a list of > things that Tim would be able to do. It amounted to 30% of his school time > out of the classroom for each six day cycle. I said no way. The only > things he leaves the room for, are special gym (he has a leg brace right now > to straighten the foot) and his bike is there which he rides three or four > times a week in the school. > > His classmates take turns at working the canteen during lunch. They only do > this once in a cycle, so that's ok, because it's a variety of kids. > > They have swim program once a week and I said no to that. He takes swim > lessons and is way ahead of his peers in his levels and doesn't need another > swim program. This has caused some problems and every chance they get, they > tell me that " he wasn't in the swim program so yada, yada, yada. " I smile > and say no, he isn't and won't be in it either. > > He's there to do school work like the other kids.....they teach him > academics, I teach him lifeskills. > > Val in Winnipeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 I agree. The kids that I taught and took to these kinds of events (out of school) were kids with severe disabilities--MR, physical and behavior issues, too. I did have a couple of kids in my class with DS. In my opinion, if we had more opportunities in our county and if " inclusion " had been a more accepted/pushed for way of providing services to these kids they would not have been in my class. I do not envision Mac in a class like I taught. However, I do think the MH (multi-handicapped) classroom is a very appropriate environment for a lot of kids with severe and/or multiple disabilities. Jill Re: Middle School...what is your take on this? > BTW My frame of reference here is severe and profound, autistic, > severely emotionally disturbed (who can be a danger to themselves and > others)--ie the kids for whom least restrictive environment is mostly > self-contained. > Bev > > WEBMOM wrote: > > > Re the basketball game: I kind of like the idea--if it's done properly. > > The teacher should work with the coach to make sure the players are > > prepped for their roles. They should be told that they are signing > > their autographs as a service project for other students to teach them > > the kind of things that go on a big league games. They should also be > > taught how to interact with people who have disabilities, and hold > > short conversations with the students from SpEd as they sign autographs > > for them. > > Done the right way, this could be a real benefit to the players, too. > > Bev > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 This is so true--not with all, but with many teachers. I started a new job this year and have yet to see the lounge for lunch!! Too busy preparing for the next class or tutoring a student through my lunch. I do hope to make it to the lounge for lunch before the end of the year, though!! Jill They may be better > teachers because they spend these few minutes away from their students. > (And I do mean few minutes--by the time they take care of other > professional obligations, many of our teachers can only spend 12-15 > minutes in the " lounge " at lunch time!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 , I read it twice and i dont know what youre asking? Is it that the teacher took her class to an outing? I really dont see anything wrong with this. Can you re phrase it, since amanda is going to middle school and i want to know if there is something there im missing and i need to be aware of. Thanks, ~ Mom to 11 DS and 7 NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 In a message dated 2/2/02 5:32:40 PM Central Standard Time, cindysue@... writes: > Also, there was a middle school student with DS and his mom accompanied him. > We got to talking about all sorts of inclusion issues. She said this > field trip was good since it was after school, but the school continues to > push for trips during school hours. She wants her son to get his academics > (sound familiar, huh?). I told her I agreed 100%, I think that it's a > parents job to take their kids to Mcs, the store, etc., and teach > them life skills...just like we taught our other children. I invited her > to join us and hopefully she will. Her son attends the same middle school > that will one day attend. > > > I would say if they are taking the other students on field trips too, then it's OK. 's classes went on occasional trips during school hours, several times to a children's theater, to a museum, to a wildlife center, things like that. But ALL the kids went, these weren't special classes just filling in time. I think that's what makes the difference. And they were educational things. Occasionally they would have an outing at a park, and usually couldn't remember which park they went to so I would ask " Did Philip fall in the lake? " If he did, that was Loose Park, if not it was another one. Philip didn't have very good balance and frequently fell in. But if field trips are just an excuse not to teach, then that's out!!!! Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 In a message dated 2/2/02 9:38:26 PM Central Standard Time, huie@... writes: > That is a situation here in our new area. I > talked with 's sped teacher at length. She said if she didn't take > them to the public library (in addition to the one at the school), or to > restaurants, or to the mall at Christmas to see Santa, that not one student > of hers (except for , she goes everywhere) would get to do any of these > things. I think that is very sad. > Sharon > Mom to (10, DS) and (6) > It sure is sad and it could very well be true. Hard to imagine, isn't it? Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 In a message dated 2/2/02 7:29:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, JB66111@... writes: > > I would say if they are taking the other students on field trips > too, > then it's OK. 's classes went on occasional trips during school > hours, several times to a children's theater, to a museum, to a wildlife > center, things like that. But ALL the kids went, these weren't special > classes just filling in time. I think that's what makes the difference. > And > they were educational things. Occasionally they would have an outing at a > park, and usually couldn't remember which park they went to so I > would ask " Did Philip fall in the lake? " If he did, that was Loose Park, > if > not it was another one. Philip didn't have very good balance and > frequently > fell in. > But if field trips are just an excuse not to teach, then that's out!!!! > Jessie > > goes on school field trips with the reg. ed. classes and I expect that to continue into middle school. We have a meeting coming up to discuss where he is going next year. I wish it was home school but I have numerous reasons for avoiding it. Anyway, the classroom where he will have his pull-out has " household " and " vocational " stuff in it. won't be doing that. He will be in there to do the academics that he can't do in a reg. ed. classroom. He also, I haven't informed them of this yet, won't be going on the several times a week community activities that they do now. One is swimming in a therapy pool at another school, needed by some of the kids for PT reasons-not by . Another is going to the grocery store and getting items for Friday cooking- going to the grocery store with a group of other students is just a recipe for disaster, we do it on a reg. basis and he is learning. Cooking on Friday, how many times in his life do you think he will need to know how to cook as a member of a group? Not many, I'll stick to working on meals at home and snacks for himself. Now, if they want to include him in this as a reinforcement for working hard all week I could go with that. As far as the autographs, how many other kids were standing there asking for autographs? I'd bet 0 so my vote is that it is inappropriate. Karyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 In a message dated 2/2/02 7:38:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, huie@... writes: > That is a situation here in our new area. I > talked with 's sped teacher at length. She said if she didn't take > them to the public library (in addition to the one at the school), or to > restaurants, or to the mall at Christmas to see Santa, that not one student > of hers (except for , she goes everywhere) would get to do any of > these > things. I think that is very sad. > Sharon > Mom to (10, DS) and (6) > > Ok, there are reg. ed. kids whose parents don't take them to many places other than the grocery store or to run errands. Does that mean that the reg. ed. teachers should be doing these field trips also? Then I can agree with this teacher's thinking but because parents don't do it shouldn't mean it is educationally important. Karyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 In a message dated 2/2/2002 9:09:43 PM Central Standard Time, linman42@... writes: > I read it twice and i dont know what youre asking? Is it that the teacher > took her class to an outing? I really dont see anything wrong with this. > Can you re phrase it, since amanda is going to middle school and i want to > know if there is something there im missing and i need to be aware of. > > Thanks, > > ~ Mom to 11 DS and 7 NY Heehee I think she wants our take on kids with disabilities asking for autographs...from their peers at that (big sigh) ......well I guess you got my take on it Kathy mom to Sara 10...who would never ask for autographs in this way but shed be happy to sign any lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 OK, the teacher in me responding to this one. I have taken my class to Mcdonalds because we went there for a tour of the kitchen and it was for community involvement. My school is right near a hugh park. we go there 2x a year and you would be surprised how many of our kids have never been there! Its right in their neighborhood. I used to take my kids to the mall when i had 1st grade to see Santa and so many of them have never been there before. we also go to the library. Another place no one takes them to. My daughter went ice skating with her class the other day. they had a great time. They also went to see Harry Potter. I dont think that was in the curriculum. so is there room for field trips for fun??? certainly it enhances socialization and I dont think there is anything wrong with that. Also, when i take my class to the park, I get to see them as different people, outside the classroom and that is very helpful as a teacher. We usually go to the movies one time also at the end of the year. I do educational trips as well - museums, etc. i try to take them to some childrens shows (theater) because they dont ever do that either. And that is a very useful experience. ~ Mom to 11 DS and 7 NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 In a message dated 2/2/02 10:36:29 PM Central Standard Time, b4alltoday@... writes: > Kathy mom to Sara 10...who would never ask for autographs in this way but > shed be happy to sign any lol > > Yes, I'll bet she would. I can just see it. When was in the > United Way Video year before last several people asked for his autograph, > just for fun. He got a kick out of that. They still call him their " movie > star " at the library. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 In a message dated 2/2/02 10:40:49 PM Central Standard Time, linman42@... writes: > Also, when i take my class to the park, I get to see them as different > people, outside the classroom and that is very helpful as a teacher. We > usually go to the movies one time also at the end of the year. > That is a very good point. You reminded me of one of 's teachers saying that. She said a child they didn't know fell going down the slide or something, can't remember exactly now, I hadn't thought of it in years. But anyway, ran over to him/her and helped him up and dried his tears, made sure he was all right. This was typical but she had never seen that side of him before. And that can be a good thing too. I think this kind of field trip can be good, but when it's just sped kids to fill time, that's something else. Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 I think the kids getting to go to the game was fine. I think you were asking about the autographs from the ball players. Do I understand correctly that this is a middle or high school game. If so, the autograph thing is rather ridiculous. I could understand if this were a professional game, maybe a college game, but I don't think it was the best idea for middle or high school. I probably won't say this correctly, but it starts an uneven playing field and starts giving some students that are probably very impressionable the idea that the other students are somehow better than they are. Maybe my imagination is running a little rampant, but I can think of all sorts of negative things that could come from that. I also agree about the field trips, educational ones with some fun thrown in I don't mind. But I firmly believe that it is the parents job to do the Mcs, the mall, etc.. That is a situation here in our new area. I talked with 's sped teacher at length. She said if she didn't take them to the public library (in addition to the one at the school), or to restaurants, or to the mall at Christmas to see Santa, that not one student of hers (except for , she goes everywhere) would get to do any of these things. I think that is very sad. Sharon Mom to (10, DS) and (6) Middle School...what is your take on this? > Last night, and I went to Katey's game. While there, the middle school Sped teacher walked in with her students. One of her old students also came (..a friend of Katey's). definately was asserting her independence by being the last one to walk in, then scanning the crowd to find a familiar face ('s). They both greeted each other and she sat next to him. The Sped teacher than came back to find her and she moved..still not with " her group " ...lol. She sat with other freshman students and soon followed and sat next to her. > > After the game, the Sped teacher had her students ask for autographs from the ball players as they were leaving the gym. They had made their own autograph books. What is your alls take on this? > > Also, there was a middle school student with DS and his mom accompanied him. We got to talking about all sorts of inclusion issues. She said this field trip was good since it was after school, but the school continues to push for trips during school hours. She wants her son to get his academics (sound familiar, huh?). I told her I agreed 100%, I think that it's a parents job to take their kids to Mcs, the store, etc., and teach them life skills...just like we taught our other children. I invited her to join us and hopefully she will. Her son attends the same middle school that will one day attend. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 This is what I am finding to be SO true in my new job this year. I now work with " higher functioning " kids--kids with developmental handicaps (DH) and learning disabilities (LD). This has been the hardest teaching year of my life--teaching/working with the MH kids was a piece of cake compared to these kids. The biggest handicap I'm finding is not the kids developmental delay or learning disability but their attitudes and total lack of effort. The sad part is that most of them have learned this from home. I,too, don't think this applies to ANYONE on this list, but it's a sad truth in many schools. And I " m in a very small school district (745 kids TOTAL K-12th)...I can only imagine what it's like in a large inner city school. Many of my students (7 out of 13) come from families where education is not valued--in these homes one or both parents did not get a high school education and therefore some of the kids are now working on academic tasks that the parents have never even seen. This has made sending home homework almost impossible because no one is at home who can help them. Even if they could, I doubt that they would. My students are often failing because they turn in less than 50% of their work. Often when I'm working with them they will refuse to work, they make a deliberate choice NOT to do the work. I never imagined I'd see this when I took this job. It has been so frustrating and I've been wracking my brain night after night to come up with something to motivate them, put a spark in them... The funny thing is the elementary principal told me she thought they were all doing so much better than they were last year and congratulated me on doing so well with them! Ha!! I had one girl last week who needed to finish a Science test. I was available to help her and she wanted to cover her book first. Well, after 15 minutes she still didn't have the book covered and I told her to quit covering the book and get the test finished. She refused...saying she needed to get the book covered because if she didn't have it covered she'd get a detention. I said well if you don't finish the test, you'll get an F. She said that's okay, if I get a detention my parents will get mad and I " ll be grounded. I asked what happens if you get an F, she said nothing happens if I get an F. Who's to argue with that logic??? GRRRRR. Enough of my grumblings.... Jill My complaint > probably does not apply to anyone on this list. I'm just saying that > there are some families who don't teach education or appropriate > behavior in an academic environment as part of their " family values " , > and it can be difficult to almost impossible for teachers to get through > to these kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 Yeah, some of the things I hear I know to take with a grain of salt...but some of it I truly believe and see as a reflection of the values instilled at home. That Sara is a character, too!! I hope I get to meet her someday!! ----- > > > HI Jill > > Heehee be careful listening to kids lololol Sara told her teacher once she > was quitting school and " my Mom said it was OK " who knows what else she's > told her teachers, but the last gave them a big laugh > > Kathy mom to Sara 10 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 What I think means is that this is NOT inclusive education. It is exceedingly segregated. It's like being alone in a big crowd which is how it is for kids with disabilities all the time. My son is so very extroverted (like mom) and we encourage interaction with typical peers and discourage that kind of segregated outing. Elaine Re: Middle School...what is your take on this? > , > I read it twice and i dont know what youre asking? Is it that the teacher > took her class to an outing? I really dont see anything wrong with this. > Can you re phrase it, since amanda is going to middle school and i want to > know if there is something there im missing and i need to be aware of. > > Thanks, > > ~ Mom to 11 DS and 7 NY > > > Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 Ok, there are reg. ed. kids whose parents don't take them to many places other than the grocery store or to run errands. Does that mean that the reg. ed. teachers should be doing these field trips also? Then I can agree with this teacher's thinking but because parents don't do it shouldn't mean it is educationally important. Karyn I agree Karyn. Re: Middle School...what is your take on this? In a message dated 2/2/02 7:38:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, huie@... writes: That is a situation here in our new area. I talked with 's sped teacher at length. She said if she didn't take them to the public library (in addition to the one at the school), or to restaurants, or to the mall at Christmas to see Santa, that not one student of hers (except for , she goes everywhere) would get to do any of these things. I think that is very sad. Sharon Mom to (10, DS) and (6) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 , You've hit a sore spot with me. Part of what is pointing out and what many professionals allude to is that kids like ours need these community outings because their parents are neglectful in this area. I hate being stereotyped as a parent just as much as I hate people stereotyping my kid. I think that is what some are finding objectionable about the type of community outings that are planned. Another thing I hate is the age inappropriateness some of these field trips have. I don't know about your trips or students, but some of the ones I have seen have young adults participating in activities that are not age appropriate. BTW, we had a sped teacher here that makes her students bring thank you gifts to give to the regular ed students when they are allowed to ride on the same bus to a field trip to the same location. What do you guys think of that? Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 In a message dated 2/3/2002 1:22:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, JB66111@... writes: > > Also, when i take my class to the park, I get to see them as different > > people, outside the classroom and that is very helpful as a teacher. We > > usually go to the movies one time also at the end of the year. > I encouraged elementary school teachers to eat lunch one day a week with their students and communicate with them in a relaxed manner during a " free " time in school. I always did when my kids were in school and I was amazed at what the other kids told me about what was going on in their lives at the time!! Unfortunately, they are unwilling to give up their time in the teachers lounge. Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 This makes me think of the initial meeting I had with Tim's middle school at the beginning of transitional planning for him. They were very proud of their lifeskills program and handed me a list of things that Tim would be able to do. It amounted to 30% of his school time out of the classroom for each six day cycle. I said no way. The only things he leaves the room for, are special gym (he has a leg brace right now to straighten the foot) and his bike is there which he rides three or four times a week in the school. His classmates take turns at working the canteen during lunch. They only do this once in a cycle, so that's ok, because it's a variety of kids. They have swim program once a week and I said no to that. He takes swim lessons and is way ahead of his peers in his levels and doesn't need another swim program. This has caused some problems and every chance they get, they tell me that " he wasn't in the swim program so yada, yada, yada. " I smile and say no, he isn't and won't be in it either. He's there to do school work like the other kids.....they teach him academics, I teach him lifeskills. Val in Winnipeg Re: Middle School...what is your take on this? > In a message dated 2/2/02 5:32:40 PM Central Standard Time, > cindysue@... writes: > > > > Also, there was a middle school student with DS and his mom accompanied him. > > We got to talking about all sorts of inclusion issues. She said this > > field trip was good since it was after school, but the school continues to > > push for trips during school hours. She wants her son to get his academics > > (sound familiar, huh?). I told her I agreed 100%, I think that it's a > > parents job to take their kids to Mcs, the store, etc., and teach > > them life skills...just like we taught our other children. I invited her > > to join us and hopefully she will. Her son attends the same middle school > > that will one day attend. > > > > > > > I would say if they are taking the other students on field trips too, > then it's OK. 's classes went on occasional trips during school > hours, several times to a children's theater, to a museum, to a wildlife > center, things like that. But ALL the kids went, these weren't special > classes just filling in time. I think that's what makes the difference. And > they were educational things. Occasionally they would have an outing at a > park, and usually couldn't remember which park they went to so I > would ask " Did Philip fall in the lake? " If he did, that was Loose Park, if > not it was another one. Philip didn't have very good balance and frequently > fell in. > But if field trips are just an excuse not to teach, then that's out!!!! > Jessie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 That one got me too, Bev. I have never been in a school (and I've done countless observations) where I've seen teachers hanging out in a teacher's lounge. Every teacher I have met has not one spare minute in their day. Show me a job where a person gets not only one or two 15 minute breaks in their day in addition to the 30-60 minute lunch hour. This is non-existent for teachers for teachers in my neck of the woods! Jackie, Mom to 14ds, 11, and Bradley 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 Hi : I sort of came through the back door on this one. If the sped. teacher had just her students, all with special needs there, then it's exclusion. I always maintain that Tim is not to be excluded in an inclusive environment. To me, what she has done is exclusion. I certainly don't disagree with field trips as others have stated, but I don't agree with " special " field trips for kids with special needs. Val Middle School...what is your take on this? > Last night, and I went to Katey's game. While there, the middle school Sped teacher walked in with her students. One of her old students also came (..a friend of Katey's). definately was asserting her independence by being the last one to walk in, then scanning the crowd to find a familiar face ('s). They both greeted each other and she sat next to him. The Sped teacher than came back to find her and she moved..still not with " her group " ...lol. She sat with other freshman students and soon followed and sat next to her. > > After the game, the Sped teacher had her students ask for autographs from the ball players as they were leaving the gym. They had made their own autograph books. What is your alls take on this? > > Also, there was a middle school student with DS and his mom accompanied him. We got to talking about all sorts of inclusion issues. She said this field trip was good since it was after school, but the school continues to push for trips during school hours. She wants her son to get his academics (sound familiar, huh?). I told her I agreed 100%, I think that it's a parents job to take their kids to Mcs, the store, etc., and teach them life skills...just like we taught our other children. I invited her to join us and hopefully she will. Her son attends the same middle school that will one day attend. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 In a message dated 2/3/2002 11:13:47 AM Central Standard Time, jbocci55@... writes: > That one got me too, Bev. I have never been in a school (and I've done > countless observations) where I've seen teachers hanging out in a teacher's > lounge. Every teacher I have met has not one spare minute in their day. > Show me a job where a person gets not only one or two 15 minute breaks in > their day in addition to the 30-60 minute lunch hour. This is non-existent > for teachers for teachers in my neck of the woods! > > Jackie, Mom to 14ds, 11, and Bradley 8 HI It goes on here and is abused by " certain " teachers. Our Sped dept. is the exception., They give up everything for their kids including the teachers lounge. I've also noticed they are treated like 2nd class citizens too why we have a new teacher each year On the subject of field trips, Sped in Sara's school doesn't do them. Reg Ed has field trips and each kid with an IEP is assigned to a Reg Ed class.........no matter how much time they spend in Reg Ed. We also don't have life skill classes, Sara's sped class is called Expanded Resource and then we have just plain old Resource for kids with LD labels. If a parent wants life skills then the kids are sent to a school that has that class. Same with Preschool Sped. Funding is sooooo bad in TN that field trips have been limited to one a year, Sara's this year was to a nature center, time spent learning about snakes and such YUCK lolol Middle school and HS gets no field trips. Kathy mom to Sara 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 In a message dated 2/3/2002 11:44:40 AM Central Standard Time, thrill@... writes: > This is so true--not with all, but with many teachers. I started a new job > this year and have yet to see the lounge for lunch!! Too busy preparing for > the next class or tutoring a student through my lunch. I do hope to make it > to the lounge for lunch before the end of the year, though!! > > Jill Ooooh a note to those who's teachers are not present/teaching during Music, Art and PE, check out where your teacher is during that time....many hang out in the teachers lounge. Sara's reg ed teacher is busy working with the sped teacher on mods for the day at the time others don't Kathy mom to Sara 10....who peeks in the lounge time to time lolol and teachers DON'T go to the cafeteria for lunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 I should have clarified this better. I was asking about the autographs. I thought that was inappropriate. As far as field trips, I think they are great if all the kids in the class get to go. But I strongly disagree if the Sped kids go on community outings, independent of their nondisabled peers. Now I am sure there are students who would benefit from outings, but not all the kids who are in special ed. That is fitting the kid into a program and not working on each child's individual needs. I want to work on academics as much as possible. It appears our public schools do not take advantage of field trips as often as other schools. My other kids only took one field trip per year. , our after school programs are ran by the county parks and rec. I pay $250.00 a month. While this is a daycare expense (and the sites are licensed for daycare), the kids do a variety of activities. Last year we had numerous problems with the after school program. We switched to another site (one close to my office) and it's been wonderful. has gone swimming, plays field hockey, plays nintendo, basketball, etc. The supervisor at this site is great with all the kids and she believes in inclusion. I ran into the director of P & R Friday night and told her how happy I was with the staff this year. She told me to put that in writing and she will put the staff in for a bonus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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