Mercury

November 30, 2000

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> JOINT STATEMENT CONCERNING REMOVAL OF THIMEROSAL

> FROM VACCINES FROM

>

> oAAFP - The American Academy of

> Family Physicians,

> oAAP - The American Academy of Pediatrics,

> oACIP - The Advisory Committee on

> Immunization Practices,

> oPHS - The United States Public Health

Service

>

> Approved on June 22

> INTRODUCTION

> BACKGROUND

> PROGRESS REPORT ON VACCINE SUPPLY

> PROGRESS REPORT ON RESEARCH

> POLICY

> SUMMARY

>

> INTRODUCTION

>

> This statement has been prepared by the

> American Academy of Family Physicians, the

> American Academy of Pediatrics, the

> Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, and the

> U.S. Public Health Service in response to

> 1) the progress being made in achieving the national

> goal declared in July 1999 to remove

> thimerosal from vaccines, and 2) the results of studies to

> better assess any potential relationship

> between exposure to mercury in thimerosal containing

> vaccines and health effects.

>

> BACKGROUND

>

> A Joint Statement issued by AAP and the PHS

> in July 1999 and agreed to by the AAFP later

> in 1999 established the goal of removing

> the vaccine preservative thimerosal as soon as

> possible from vaccines routinely

> recommended for infants. Thimerosal is a derivative of

> ethylmercury and has been used as an

> additive to biologics and vaccines since the 1930s

> because it is effective in killing bacteria

> and in preventing bacterial contamination, particularly

> in opened multi-dose containers. While

> there was no evidence of any harm caused by low

> levels of thimerosal in vaccines and the

> risk was only theoretical, this goal was established as a

> precautionary measure. There is public

> concern about the health effects of mercury exposure

> of any sort, and the elimination of mercury

> from vaccines was judged a feasible means of

> reducing an infant's total exposure to

> mercury in a world where other environmental sources of

> exposure are more difficult or impossible

> to eliminate (e.g. certain foods).

>

> PROGRESS REPORT ON VACCINE SUPPLY

>

> During the year since the original

> statement, substantial progress has been made in removing

> thimerosal from vaccines. A hepatitis B

> vaccine without thimerosal produced by Merck

> Vaccine Division was released in August

> 1999, and in March 2000 a hepatitis B vaccine that

> does not contain thimerosal as a

> preservative was approved for Kline Beecham

> Biologicals. This SKBB product contains

> only a trace amount of mercury (less than

> 0.5mcg/dose), a greater than 96% reduction

> from the 12.5mcg in the previous SKBB vaccine

> and an amount considered clinically

> insignificant. A combination vaccine containing both

> hepatitis B and Haemophilus influenzae type

> b (Hib) vaccine produced by Merck Vaccine

> Division, Inc. has always been free of

> thimerosal. Thus, as of March 2000, all U.S children

> had access to hepatitis B vaccines that are

> free of thimerosal as a preservative.

>

> In addition, three of the four Hib vaccines

> currently licensed for use in the United States do

> not contain thimerosal as a preservative.

> The fourth vaccine is produced by Wyeth Lederle

> which has marketed this Hib vaccine in both

> thimerosal free, single dose formulations and

> multidose, thimerosal-containing

> preparations. As of July 2000, Wyeth Lederle is expected to

> produce only the single dose,

> thimerosal-free formulation for the U.S. Thus, the Hib vaccine

> supply being produced will become entirely

> free of thimerosal as a preservative beginning in

> July 2000.

>

> For DTaP vaccine, a thimerosal free vaccine

> produced by SKBB has been licensed and

> available in the United States since 1997.

> There are three other vaccine manufacturers whose

> DTaP vaccines still contain thimerosal as a

> preservative. Discussions are underway with these

> manufacturers and it is hoped that at least

> one additional DTaP vaccine without thimerosal as a

> preservative will become available in early 2001.

>

> Based on this progress, the most likely

> maximum amount of ethylmercury that an infant may

> be exposed to from the routine immunization

> schedule has been reduced by 60% from

> 187.5mcg to 75mcg. Measles mumps rubella,

> varicella, inactivated polio, and pneumococcal

> conjugate vaccines have never contained thimerosal.

>

> PROGRESS REPORT ON RESEARCH

>

> Since July 1999, efforts to remove

> thimerosal from the US vaccine supply have been

> accompanied by research investigations to

> better assess the potential health effects of exposure

> to thimerosal-containing vaccines.

>

> First, NIH scientists are collaborating

> with investigators from the University of Rochester and

> the Bethesda Naval Hospital to determine

> retrospectively the blood levels of mercury achieved

> following routine pediatric vaccination.

> Preliminary data from a very small number of term

> infants in these studies indicate that the

> blood levels of mercury produced by exposure to

> thimerosal preservative containing vaccines

> are less than 2mcg/L, the level many experts

> consider as background.

>

> These findings differ from those recently

> reported by Stajich and coworkers (J Pediatr

> 2000;136:679-681) who found blood mercury

> levels of greater than 2.9 mcg/L in 9 of 15

> premature infants who had received a

> hepatitis B immunization within the first week of life.

> However, all of these infants were very

> premature (birth weights < 1000 grams, mean birth

> weight of 748 grams). Hepatitis B

> immunization is not recommended for infants < 2000

> grams unless their mother is HBsAg positive.

>

> Second, CDC is using large automated

> databases that link vaccination and International

> Classification of Disease codes (ICD-9)

> stored in medical records in managed care

> organizations (the Vaccine Safety Datalink

> project, VSD) to rapidly screen for any possible

> association between exposure to thimerosal

> containing vaccines and a variety of neurologic,

> developmental, and renal outcomes.

>

> In the preliminary screening phase of this

> investigation, CDC and VSD investigators observed

> no association between exposure to

> thimerosal containing vaccines and 12 of the 17 renal and

> neurologic ICD-9 codes examined from two of

> the managed care organizations studied. These

> 12 ICD-9 codes examined were extrapyradimal

> disease, autism, childhood psychosis,

> stammering, sleep, eating, misery

> disorders, mixed emotional conditions, infantile cerebral

> palsy, epilepsy, migraines, and unspecified

> renal conditions. From these preliminary data, an

> inconclusive correlation (i.e., one that is

> inadequate to support or refute a causal link) was

> observed between exposure to thimerosal

> containing vaccines and five of the 17 ICD-9 codes,

> including language delays, speech delays,

> attention deficit disorder, unspecified developmental

> delays and tics. There was no evidence of

> any increased risk for these codes among premature

> infants.

>

> Reviews of these preliminary observations

> by expert consultants first at CDC and then from

> outside PHS identified many important

> shortcomings in the dataset and in this type of analytic

> approach. These consultants concluded that

> the correlation is very weak and insufficient to

> support a causal relationship. This

> inconclusive information does not provide a sound

> scientific basis for making new policy

> decisions or changes in current policies. Nevertheless,

> because of the potential implications of

> this screening-phase observation, consultants urged

> further investigation.

>

> In pursuit of these further studies, CDC

> investigators have obtained preliminary data from a

> third managed care organization. Analyses

> of these data using the same methods and having

> similar limitations as in the two earlier

> managed care organizations showed no association for

> two specific conditions, namely, speech

> delay, which in this dataset included language delay,

> and attention deficit disorder. The number

> of events was too small to examine the association

> with tics and the category of unspecified

> developmental delays was not defined clearly enough

> to permit reanalysis. Additional review of

> this dataset is planned and new studies which can

> test the hypotheses of interest more

> directly and definitively also are being considered by

> CDC.

>

> POLICY

> The AAFP, AAP, and the PHS in consultation with the ACIP reaffirm

> the goal set in July

> 1999 to remove or greatly reduce thimerosal

> from vaccines as soon as possible for the

> following reasons: 1) the removal or

> substantial reduction of thimerosal from vaccines is

> feasible, 2) the progress in removal which

> has been made to date is substantial, 3) the

> discussions between the Food and Drug

> Administration and the vaccine manufacturers in

> removing thimerosal are ongoing, and 4) the

> public concern about the use of mercury of any

> sort remains high. Based on information

> from the FDA and manufacturers, the PHS projects

> that the United States will complete its

> transition to a secure routine pediatric vaccine supply

> free of thimerosal as a preservative (i.e.

> at least two vaccine products each for Hep B, Hib, and

> DTaP) by the first quarter of 2001.

>

> The use of any Hib or DTaP vaccine should

> continue according to the currently recommended

> schedule. The risk of not vaccinating

> children on time with DTaP to protect them against

> pertussis or with any remaining Hib vaccine

> is believed to far outweigh the risk, if any, of

> exposure to thimerosal containing DTaP and

> Hib vaccines which are still available or still

> being produced. Any new information from

> ongoing investigations will be monitored carefully

> by the PHS to determine if any change in

> this assessment and in existing recommendations is

> warranted.

>

> Other vaccines such as diphtheria-tetanus,

> meningococcal, and influenza vaccines will still

> contain thimerosal after the first quarter

> of 2001. Diphtheria-tetanus (DT) and meningococcal

> vaccines are not recommended for children

> as part of the recommended childhood

> immunization schedule. Influenza vaccine is

> not recommended routinely for infants under 6

> months of age, but should be given to

> infants and children 6 months of age and older who are

> at high risk of morbidity and mortality

> from the influenza virus. Continued use of these

> products as indicated is recommended until

> thimerosal is removed or until new products

> without thimerosal are licensed.

>

> The vaccination of children in much of the

> world will continue to require the use of multi-dose

> vials for reasons of cost, production, and

> storage capacity. Multi-dose vials require a

> preservative to prevent microbial

> contamination after the vial is opened. While thimerosal is

> currently the preferred preservative,

> manufacturers are encouraged to seek alternatives.

>

> SUMMARY

>

> In 1999, family physicians, pediatricians,

> federal health officials, and vaccine manufacturers

> stated that because any potential risk from

> mercury is of concern, and the elimination of

> exposure to mercury in the form of

> thimerosal from vaccines is feasible, thimerosal should be

> removed from vaccines as soon as possible. However,

> there remains no convincing evidence of

> harm caused by low levels of thimerosal in vaccines.

>

> Since mid-1999, two new hepatitis B vaccine

> products have been introduced and one new Hib

> product will be produced next month to make

> the new supply of both hepatitis b and Hib

> vaccines for infants entirely free of

> thimerosal as a preservative. One of the four licensed

> DTaP vaccines is already thimerosal free,

> and at least one other thimerosal free DTaP vaccine

> is anticipated to be licensed by early

> 2001. Thus, the likely maximum number of micrograms

> of ethylmercury that an infant may be

> exposed to from the routine immunization schedule will

> have been reduced by 60%. This amount will

> be reduced even further in early 2001 when at

> least two vaccine products for hepatitis B,

> Hib, and DTaP are expected to be available.

> Meanwhile, research on the potential health

> effects of exposure to thimerosal is continuing,

> and information will be monitored closely

> by the PHS to determine if any changes in policy

> are needed.

>

> The AAFP, AAP, ACIP, and the PHS recommend

> continuation of the current policy of moving

> rapidly to vaccines which are free of

> thimerosal as a preservative. Until an adequate supply of

> each vaccine is available, use of vaccines

> which contain thimerosal as a preservative is

> acceptabable . This page last reviewed June 22,

2000

>

> Centers for Disease

> Control and Prevention

> National Immunization

Program

>

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March 19, 2001

Hi all,

Just my 2 cents here... in addition to Mercury being a problem, I have

been stunned to look at my child's medical records from his first year of

life. ANTIBIOTICS COMBINED WITH VACCINES DID A NUMBER ON MY CHILD..... I

WISH THAT I WOULD HAVE REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON. Take a look at this

and tell me if you think my child stood a chance of surviving this

" onslought " of medical interventions without any harm:

> Born 2/15/96

> Dr. visit about THRUSH 2/20/96

> Dr. visit for Hep B shot 3/19/96

> Dr. Visit for additional vaccines4/16/96

> Dr. visit Ill (not sure if antibiotics were given or not) 5/27/96

> Dr. visit for vaccines 6/25/96

> Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed 7/3/96

> Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed 7/20/96

> Dr. visit Ill (not sure about prescription) 9/23/96

> Dr. visit for vaccines 10/8/96

> Dr. visit Ill(not sure about prescripttion)

>

>4/10/97 Hospitalized with Rotavirus and RSV

> 4/22/97 still recovering from Rotavirus 8 vaccines in one day

4/26/97 EAR INFECTION/ ANTIBIOTIC!

5/19/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

8/4/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC (NO DX IN RECORD, BUT THERE WAS A

RECHECK OF THE EAR IN SEPT)

1/28/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

3/18/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

4/98 VENTILATION TUBE

Does anyone else see a pattern here??? I realize that I don't have a

DOUBLE BLIND CROSS OVER PEER REVIED STUDY ON THE SUBJECT OF ANTIBIOTICS

AND YEAST AND VACCINES, SO I GUESS I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY REAL PROOF.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY COUNTLESS CHILDREN HAVE THIS SAME HISTORY?

BY THE WAY, MY CHILD USED TO INTERACT AND TALK AND MAKE EYE CONTACT...

KELLY LEIGH

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March 20, 2001

I can't speak for others, but that was pretty much the case with Ben too.

Vaccines and antibiotics over and over again listed through his medical

records.

Kris

aka@...

Re: [ ] Mercury

> Hi all,

>

> Just my 2 cents here... in addition to Mercury being a problem, I have

> been stunned to look at my child's medical records from his first year of

> life. ANTIBIOTICS COMBINED WITH VACCINES DID A NUMBER ON MY CHILD..... I

> WISH THAT I WOULD HAVE REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON. Take a look at this

> and tell me if you think my child stood a chance of surviving this

> " onslought " of medical interventions without any harm:

>

> > Born 2/15/96

> > Dr. visit about THRUSH 2/20/96

> > Dr. visit for Hep B shot 3/19/96

> > Dr. Visit for additional vaccines4/16/96

> > Dr. visit Ill (not sure if antibiotics were given or not) 5/27/96

> > Dr. visit for vaccines 6/25/96

> > Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed 7/3/96

> > Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed 7/20/96

> > Dr. visit Ill (not sure about prescription) 9/23/96

> > Dr. visit for vaccines 10/8/96

> > Dr. visit Ill(not sure about prescripttion)

> >

> >4/10/97 Hospitalized with Rotavirus and RSV

> > 4/22/97 still recovering from Rotavirus 8 vaccines in one day

> 4/26/97 EAR INFECTION/ ANTIBIOTIC!

> 5/19/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

> 8/4/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC (NO DX IN RECORD, BUT THERE WAS A

> RECHECK OF THE EAR IN SEPT)

> 1/28/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

> 3/18/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

> 4/98 VENTILATION TUBE

>

> Does anyone else see a pattern here??? I realize that I don't have a

> DOUBLE BLIND CROSS OVER PEER REVIED STUDY ON THE SUBJECT OF ANTIBIOTICS

> AND YEAST AND VACCINES, SO I GUESS I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY REAL PROOF.

>

> I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY COUNTLESS CHILDREN HAVE THIS SAME HISTORY?

> BY THE WAY, MY CHILD USED TO INTERACT AND TALK AND MAKE EYE CONTACT...

>

> KELLY LEIGH

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March 20, 2001

Read the homeopathic picture of mercury solubilis and you'll find otitis media as major symptom.

A darm flora disturbed from antibiotics and a disturbed immunsystem from mercury is mostlikely followed by a yeast infection.

Re: [ ] Mercury

Hi all,Just my 2 cents here... in addition to Mercury being a problem, I have been stunned to look at my child's medical records from his first year oflife. ANTIBIOTICS COMBINED WITH VACCINES DID A NUMBER ON MY CHILD..... IWISH THAT I WOULD HAVE REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON. Take a look at thisand tell me if you think my child stood a chance of surviving this"onslought" of medical interventions without any harm:> Born 2/15/96> Dr. visit about THRUSH 2/20/96> Dr. visit for Hep B shot 3/19/96> Dr. Visit for additional vaccines4/16/96> Dr. visit Ill (not sure if antibiotics were given or not) 5/27/96> Dr. visit for vaccines 6/25/96> Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed 7/3/96> Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed 7/20/96> Dr. visit Ill (not sure about prescription) 9/23/96> Dr. visit for vaccines 10/8/96> Dr. visit Ill(not sure about prescripttion)>>4/10/97 Hospitalized with Rotavirus and RSV> 4/22/97 still recovering from Rotavirus 8 vaccines in one day 4/26/97 EAR INFECTION/ ANTIBIOTIC!5/19/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC8/4/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC (NO DX IN RECORD, BUT THERE WAS ARECHECK OF THE EAR IN SEPT)1/28/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC3/18/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC4/98 VENTILATION TUBEDoes anyone else see a pattern here??? I realize that I don't have aDOUBLE BLIND CROSS OVER PEER REVIED STUDY ON THE SUBJECT OF ANTIBIOTICSAND YEAST AND VACCINES, SO I GUESS I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY REAL PROOF.I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY COUNTLESS CHILDREN HAVE THIS SAME HISTORY?BY THE WAY, MY CHILD USED TO INTERACT AND TALK AND MAKE EYE CONTACT... KELLY LEIGH________________________________________________________________GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.=======================================================

March 20, 2001

, my son's medical record reads just like your child's. Dylan had his first

bout with otitis media at 6 weeks, and we were in the doctor's office with his ears

and upper resp. infection every month-6weeks from there on out. Constant

antibiotics, he also had two severe bouts with yeast during all this. Also, my son

had his first vaccine when he was 10 days.....HepB. I bet there are a lot of

children out there with the same type medical history as ours.

March 20, 2001

Kelley,

With the exception of the Rotovirus, my son's history is pretty much the

same. He had constant ear infections since 4 months of age, three sets of

tubes, antibiotics since age 4 months to age 3 - pretty constant - all the

vaccines in between - 8 vaccines on one day like yours. It absolutely makes

me sick to think of how ignorant I was and we cannot go back in time. What's

worse is how ignorant the doctors are.

Cheryl

In a message dated 3/19/01 2:24:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

recovering2@... writes:

<< Hi all,

Just my 2 cents here... in addition to Mercury being a problem, I have

been stunned to look at my child's medical records from his first year of

life. ANTIBIOTICS COMBINED WITH VACCINES DID A NUMBER ON MY CHILD..... I

WISH THAT I WOULD HAVE REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON. Take a look at this

and tell me if you think my child stood a chance of surviving this

" onslought " of medical interventions without any harm:

> Born 2/15/96

> Dr. visit about THRUSH 2/20/96

> Dr. visit for Hep B shot 3/19/96

> Dr. Visit for additional vaccines4/16/96

> Dr. visit Ill (not sure if antibiotics were given or not) 5/27/96

> Dr. visit for vaccines 6/25/96

> Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed 7/3/96

> Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed 7/20/96

> Dr. visit Ill (not sure about prescription) 9/23/96

> Dr. visit for vaccines 10/8/96

> Dr. visit Ill(not sure about prescripttion)

>

>4/10/97 Hospitalized with Rotavirus and RSV

> 4/22/97 still recovering from Rotavirus 8 vaccines in one day

4/26/97 EAR INFECTION/ ANTIBIOTIC!

5/19/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

8/4/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC (NO DX IN RECORD, BUT THERE WAS A

RECHECK OF THE EAR IN SEPT)

1/28/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

3/18/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

4/98 VENTILATION TUBE

Does anyone else see a pattern here??? I realize that I don't have a

DOUBLE BLIND CROSS OVER PEER REVIED STUDY ON THE SUBJECT OF ANTIBIOTICS

AND YEAST AND VACCINES, SO I GUESS I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY REAL PROOF.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY COUNTLESS CHILDREN HAVE THIS SAME HISTORY?

BY THE WAY, MY CHILD USED TO INTERACT AND TALK AND MAKE EYE CONTACT...

KELLY LEIGH

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March 20, 2001

The history of your child does sound very similar to me. My twins

had over 35 ear infections/antibiotic treatments APIECE between the

ages of 1 and 6. It would be next to impossible to exclude them from

vaccines and antibiotic use at the same time; however, they didn't

even try.

> Read the homeopathic picture of mercury solubilis and you'll find

otitis media as major symptom.

> A darm flora disturbed from antibiotics and a disturbed immunsystem

from mercury is mostlikely followed by a yeast infection.

> Re: [ ] Mercury

>

> Hi all,

>

> Just my 2 cents here... in addition to Mercury being a problem,

I have

> been stunned to look at my child's medical records from his first

year of

> life. ANTIBIOTICS COMBINED WITH VACCINES DID A NUMBER ON MY

CHILD..... I

> WISH THAT I WOULD HAVE REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON. Take a look

at this

> and tell me if you think my child stood a chance of surviving this

> " onslought " of medical interventions without any harm:

>

> > Born 2/15/96

> > Dr. visit about THRUSH 2/20/96

> > Dr. visit for Hep B shot 3/19/96

> > Dr. Visit for additional vaccines4/16/96

> > Dr. visit Ill (not sure if antibiotics were given or not)

5/27/96

> > Dr. visit for vaccines 6/25/96

> > Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed

7/3/96

> > Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed

7/20/96

> > Dr. visit Ill (not sure about prescription) 9/23/96

> > Dr. visit for vaccines 10/8/96

> > Dr. visit Ill(not sure about prescripttion)

> >

> >4/10/97 Hospitalized with Rotavirus and RSV

> > 4/22/97 still recovering from Rotavirus 8 vaccines in one day

> 4/26/97 EAR INFECTION/ ANTIBIOTIC!

> 5/19/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

> 8/4/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC (NO DX IN RECORD, BUT THERE

WAS A

> RECHECK OF THE EAR IN SEPT)

> 1/28/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

> 3/18/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

> 4/98 VENTILATION TUBE

>

> Does anyone else see a pattern here??? I realize that I don't

have a

> DOUBLE BLIND CROSS OVER PEER REVIED STUDY ON THE SUBJECT OF

ANTIBIOTICS

> AND YEAST AND VACCINES, SO I GUESS I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY REAL

PROOF.

>

> I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY COUNTLESS CHILDREN HAVE THIS SAME

HISTORY?

> BY THE WAY, MY CHILD USED TO INTERACT AND TALK AND MAKE EYE

CONTACT...

>

> KELLY LEIGH

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March 21, 2001

I have also read Dr. Shaw's book. I agree, he describes our children definitely!

It seems to be the same story, over and over, with a difference being in the

severity for different children. However, I do know there are some children

that do not have the type problems and medical history as ours. Really drives

you crazy thinking about it...........sometimes it seems that I just go round and

round! Dr. Holmes explained it very well to me when we went to see her. I also

would love to know the percentage of children with this same scenario of problems.

March 21, 2001

In a message dated 3/20/01 5:54:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, yanosky5@... writes:

The history of your child does sound very similar to me. My twins had over 35 ear infections/antibiotic treatments APIECE between the ages of 1 and 6. It would be next to impossible to exclude them from vaccines and antibiotic use at the same time; however, they didn't even try.

Same here.... Matt had 2.5 yrs of otitis media, caustic diarrhea, thrush, overprescibed antibiotics............it's the same story.

March 21, 2001

Cheryl,

Have you read Dr. Shaw's book about Biological interventions for Autism

and PDD? Our kids are described in detail in this book. I can't believe

that it took me this long to WAKE UP. Anyhow, I'm finally getting

on the Antifungal diet in addition to taking Wheat, Dairy, Soy, Eggs, and

nuts out of his diet. Since we eliminated sugar, he is doing so much

better.... I also found out that the bacon that contains Nitrites will

feed yeast, so I had to find some without.

Thanks for your reply.... it helps me to know that I'm not alone.....

Anyhow, I'm not going to sit around and blame myself anymore..... the bad

part is that through the whole ordeal, I kept asking the Dr..... " isn't

the rash a problem with yeast " every time this question was met with a

very condescending attitude.. " like how dare you question me? " I was

always told in no uncertain terms that this was NOT A PROBLEM WITH YEAST.

Now that I know better I can move forward to help my son.

Leigh

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March 21, 2001

,

Dr. Shaw's book explains this and our kids are carbon copies of the ones

that he talks about in his book.

I'd like to know what percentage of our kids have the same profile?

KELLY LEIGH

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March 21, 2001

Yep, my child too!

Ruth (mom to , 17

autism/LKS)

Original message:

Message: 7

Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:46:43 EST

From: Dmhac3@...

Subject: Re: Re: Mercury

In a message dated 3/20/01 5:54:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, yanosky5@...

writes:

>

> The history of your child does sound very similar to me. My twins

> had over 35 ear infections/antibiotic treatments APIECE between the

> ages of 1 and 6. It would be next to impossible to exclude them from

> vaccines and antibiotic use at the same time; however, they didn't

> even try.

>

Same here.... Matt had 2.5 yrs of otitis media, caustic diarrhea, thrush,

overprescibed antibiotics............it's the same story.

March 21, 2001

> Read the homeopathic picture of mercury solubilis and you'll find

otitis

> media as major symptom.

Thank you very much!

The homeopathic materia medica consists of extensive observations of

poisoned people. Whether or not you beleive in homeopathy as useful

treatment, the most authoritative source there is on what happens to

poisoned people in an observational sense is the homeopathic materia

medica.

Andy

..

July 18, 2001

Hi,

I have been reading the information on the websites listed and am appalled

that there is so much evidence of mercury poisoning and the high incidence

of autism and many other neurological disorders that seem to be associated

with mercury. I would like to know what type of doctor to go to in order to

have my son tested? I do have hair samples from when he was a baby and

would like to have that done so if there is excess mercury found that we

could start the mercury detoxification process. I'm not sure what that

entails but would be willing to try anything to help my son. Thanks for

sending the links to the mercury websites. I have been doing much

investigating and don't like what I'm seeing.

Pam

July 19, 2001

Hi Sallie,

This kind of information is very scary, and yet we all know that the

damage has been done (if this is what caused it) and we know what the

alternative could have been. Just in the last week I heard of

someone who DID NOT give their child immunizations and they came down

with polio.

But anyway, what is there to do about it. Everyone keeps saying

things about " detoxification " . Is that possible?

Thanks for the help.

Alwert

October 27, 2001

Frazis wrote:

> My son's recent hair analysis shows that his mercury levels are 0.91.

> The normal range is 0.0-1.00.

> He is autistic and need to eliminate the source.

>

> He does eat fish. Would this be his source???

>

> Regards,

>

Fish could be a source.

Did he have vaccines that contained thimerasol?

October 27, 2001

Frazis wrote:

> My son's recent hair analysis shows that his mercury levels are 0.91.

> The normal range is 0.0-1.00.

> He is autistic and need to eliminate the source.

>

has he had thimerasol containing immunizations?

>

> He does eat fish. Would this be his source???

>

> Regards,

>

October 27, 2001

>My son's recent hair analysis shows that his mercury levels are 0.91. The

normal range is 0.0-1.00.

>He is autistic and need to eliminate the source.

>

>He does eat fish. Would this be his source???

>

>Regards,

>

Dear ,

Yes, a number of kinds of fish do have mercury. However,

the mercury which is contained in vaccinations seems to be

the bigger problem. (Many vaccines contain a preservative,

thimerosal, which includes mercury.) There are other

potential sources as well.

While there I lots of sources of mercury exposure, I think

or the " biggies " as vaccinations and amalgam fillings.

Some fish have more risk than others, by the way. I am

not a great person to advise you which fish to eat or

avoid (as I don't eat them at all), but I'm sure there

are people here who'd be glad to help with that.

best,

Moria

October 29, 2001

,

Although fish can definately be the source of mercury and I do avoid it, I

wanted to ask if he has received any immunizations? Were you an RH- mom and

receive the shot for that? Do you or your son have any amalgam fillings?

Those are the more common sources.

Jane

October 29, 2001

Generally the higher the fish are on the food chain, the more mercury as they

accumulate all that the fish they lunched on contained. Tuna, tilefish (never

heard of it until the warnings came out), and swordfish among the worst. Also

39 states and some tribes have warnings for various lakes, etc. Great Lakes are

particularly badly contaminted.

S

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October 2, 2002

In the 60's and early 70's there was a large number of cases of mercury

poisoning coming out of Japan (secondary to industrial pollution of a bay

that was used for fishing) and Canada (secondary to industrial pollution of

small rivers and streams fished primarily by the native Americans who lived

there, I think the term the Canadians use is First Nations). At any rate

there was a large population that could be studied which ranged in ages from

young children to adults. None of these individuals in either place had

autistic symptoms. They had many others but not autistic. So, why would

mercury in much smaller doses in vaccines result in autism and never result

in autism in all of the cases of mercury poisoning that have been studied.

Age is not a factor because we know that there have been viral related

autistic like symptoms occurring in adolescents and adults. Kathy -NNY

October 2, 2002

I'd like to see the study related to that. Do you happen to have it or can

you direct me to it?

Thanks,

Terri

Re: Mercury

> In the 60's and early 70's there was a large number of cases of mercury

> poisoning coming out of Japan (secondary to industrial pollution of a bay

> that was used for fishing) and Canada (secondary to industrial pollution

of

> small rivers and streams fished primarily by the native Americans who

lived

> there, I think the term the Canadians use is First Nations). At any rate

> there was a large population that could be studied which ranged in ages

from

> young children to adults. None of these individuals in either place had

> autistic symptoms. They had many others but not autistic. So, why would

> mercury in much smaller doses in vaccines result in autism and never

result

> in autism in all of the cases of mercury poisoning that have been studied.

> Age is not a factor because we know that there have been viral related

> autistic like symptoms occurring in adolescents and adults. Kathy -NNY

>

October 2, 2002

> In the 60's and early 70's there was a large number of cases of

mercury

> poisoning coming out of Japan (secondary to industrial pollution of

a bay

> that was used for fishing) and Canada (secondary to industrial

pollution of

> small rivers and streams fished primarily by the native Americans

who lived

> there, I think the term the Canadians use is First Nations). At any

rate

> there was a large population that could be studied which ranged in

ages from

> young children to adults. None of these individuals in either place

had

> autistic symptoms.

I'm not familiar with this population or these studies, so I

have no guesses.

> They had many others but not autistic. So, why

would

> mercury in much smaller doses in vaccines result in autism and never

result

> in autism in all of the cases of mercury poisoning that have been

studied.

perhaps because it is injected. or maybe the combo of mercury

plus viruses together. or possibly some of the kids

are ALREADY borderline merc toxic and this puts them over the

edge...... I think it is also a different form of mercury,

but don't quote me on that--- I get it all confused!

Also: are you sure NONE of them got anything like autism?

The number of people who get merc toxicity diseases appears

to be a very tiny percentage of those who are exposed.

If you are interested in pursuing the subject, you may want

to look into " pinks disease " , also called something like

acondyria (but that is spelled wrong... sorry). This disease

happened concurrently with the use of mercury in teething

powders and went away (no longer occurs) with the disuse

of mercury in teething powders. If you are interested in

studying it, write me (on or off list) and I can look up

an email/contact that can help you. (adult who had pinks

as an infant, has her history on-line, has a support group

for adults who had this as kids, etc). Symptoms are very

much like autism. Dr. Holmes talks about pinks in some of

her presentations -- others may too, I don't know.

best wishes,

Moria

October 3, 2002

Kathy,

Without having any answers to comments - I wondered if I could throw back a

few questions and see if you can lay to rest some of my ambivalence!!!

I have seen a list of mercury poisoning symptoms compared to autistic

symptoms, and they actually looked very similar. Then if you chuck into the

hat that mercury poisoning on an adult brain - would potentially look quite

different from a non-mature body being struck with mercury poisoning - then

throw into the hat, that all of us respond differently (susceptibility

points) to varying degrees of mercury content, then throw into the hat that

ethyl mercury or thimerosol is hugely more toxic by the nature of its

compound. Then just for arguments sake suppose that immune dysfunction makes

that susceptibility so much more intense - wouldn't it be possible to

parallel the argument:

we are all exposed to various viruses, these children with immune

dysfunction are the ones with the elevated viral loads - who cannot

naturally keep these viruses at bay

with

we are all exposed to heavy metals, these children with the immune

dysfunction are those that cannot effectively remove toxicities from their

bodies like healthy people would

Carole