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October 25, 1999

In a message dated 10/25/1999 9:19:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

ROSYDIXON@... writes:

<< he fact that your kids are healthy without immunizations (and I'm glad

they

are) doesn't prove a damn thing. One of the reasons, is because they are

surrounded by other kids who HAVE been vaccinated, and are therefore not

transmitting diseases to which they would otherwise be subject to them.

It's only the fact that MOST of the school-age children are vaccinated, that

makes your choice feasible.

Ro >>

Angry aren't we. So why are you angry about the truth. The truth is

vacinnes cannot be proven to be the reason kids stay healthy. So you have an

opinion, I know it is wrong as well. Nothing you can say can change truth.

So why get angry about it.

October 25, 1999

I agree with you on the bottom line " the powere that made us " is also

our healer. But that same power made appricot seeds and many other

things of nature just in the same way that our bodies were born

requireing proper nutrition. And we do need to make better life style

changes, the best way for this is through education and knowledge.

People tend to address the disease rather then the whole body, and I

believe that is the key to prevention. We need to look at the body as a

whole.

About Sids, I have read documented cases on family's who lost children

to SIDS and they relate back to their children getting vaccinated

before this happens. I have seen SIDS listed as a possibility from

vaccine contaminents and vaccine ingrediants. If you notice it isn't

the vaccines that are nesecarrily at falt here. It is the CONTAMINENTS

AND INGREDIANTS, that rob us of good health. If we are going to

continue with vaccinations then I think we have the right to demand

that they find a different way to make them or that they use different

ingrediants to make them.

Debbie

aper2-@... wrote:

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> The bottom line is the power that made the body, (innate

intelligence) can

> heal the body and anyone who thinks they can interfere with that is

fooling

> themselves. Whether it be homeopathic medicine, or traditional

> medicine,,,HEALTH DOES NOT COME OUT OF A BOTTLE. Please do not tell

me that

> cancer comes from lack of apricot seeds in the system, just as

headaches do

> not come from lack of advil in the system!

> Let's educate ourselves on healthy lifestyles to prevent cancer,

(nutrition,

> diet, exercise, spinal alignments, stress reduction, possitive mental

> attitudes) not " miracle cures " .

> ,,,Just my humble opinion. Also, just a side note on vaccines,,,does

anyone

> wonder about " SIDS " being linked to them?

October 25, 1999

Carol

The difference that I can see between the two, is with Immunocal the

creator of it is Dr. Bounous. Dr Bounous has spent over twenty years

studing and researching the benefit of immunocal in raising

glutathione, fifteen of those years were spent in a lab. His research

has led to the patents, method of use, five in the USA , one strickly

pertaining to cancer and one strickly pertaining to aids and the other

three to do wtih raising immune response, one in Canada, on immune

responce and one from Australia on cancer. And there are more patents

pending. In January of 1999, medicaide and medicare in the USA are now

covering and rembursing for Immunocal. There are six major pharmacuticl

companies that have the rights to sell it in over sixty five countries.

Only in North America is it sold through a form of networkmarketing

called direct-tec. Everyone seems to see this as a down side to the

product, but think about, through this means we have control on the

price we pay for it.

It has many on going clinical studies in many areas of disease.

Dr. Larry Lands, of the Montreal Children's Hospital, recently

completed the Healthy Adults Study, a double-blind pacebo study that

demonstrated that HMS90/Immunocal improves muscle performance and

increased blood gllutathione; the first time that an antioxidant was

shown to increase the strength of the muscular contraction. His

findings were presented at the American Lung Assosiation/American

Thoracic Society International Conference in San Diego, California in

April

I had the priviledge of having Dr. Lands return my call a couple of

weeks ago. I asked him a simple question. If immunocal is just a food

supplement, then why the need for all the research? He told me that

what he discovered, was that it is so much more, a very powerful agent

is what he called it. And he would like to see it further researched

with other diseases.

As far as Immunocal goes this is what I know, and there is so much

more. I think it is such a huge thing that we have the right to demand

to know that it works. Immunocal is an awesome product in my opinion,

but the real hero against disease is glutathione. I know through Dr.

Bounous research that the method he uses is immunocal and I have seen

studies that he and Dr. Barushel have done on other designer whey's.

Immunocal wins in my book hands down.

As for Life Extension, I believe you should check them out. I did. And

I am still waiting to see the same studies that Dr. Bounous has done to

proove that this is actually a whey protein that can raise glutathione

by giving it cystine, and letting the body convert it to cysteine

completing glutathione and giving my cells what they need. The cost is

definitly cheaper, but is it better? You need to make that judgement

call for yourself. I asked Molson about this. His answer was they

must have the same studies to show they are as good as if not better.

Please if someone can produce these clinical applications and studies,

I would like to see them. I think that glutathione is to important to

screw around with. I am not accusing these guys, maybe I am just

misled, but the only real proof I have seen is Dr. Bounous's work and

the work of his colleages.

As for cost you will have to go to the Life Extension web site that has

been given and you will see the cost of their product.

Immunocal can be purchased many different ways. The choice is yours.

You can become a customer of the company or you can become a

distributer, getting it for the cheapest price possible. That is how I

got involved. Our houshold goes through enough in a month being a

customer was not a good thing $$$ wise.

Before you decide look into the info further. Anyone can access this

free call in North America 1-888-784-2222 or if you want to ask

specifics the direct your calls to 1-450-9992 and ask for Molson,

he will answer any of your questions.

I can only tell you what I know of Immunocal, and I trully know nothing

about Life Extension, except that the things I deem important, all the

research saying it will do what it does, I am yet to see this. So if

anyone can produce this please help us all get a better understanding

of the difference or the fact that they say there is no difference.

As for cost, decide first which will be more benefical. You can e-mail

me privately if you like hamonicd@...

I hope this gets us a responce, or in some way helps you make a choice

for what it best.

Debbie

cbil-@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 99-10-24 14:17:40 EDT, you write:

>

> << http://www.lef.org/prod_desc/item558.html

> >>

> What is the difference between Immunocol and the Life Extension

Product.

> Also what is the difference in price????

> Thanks,

> Carol B

October 25, 1999

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> Immunocal is nothing more than a cold processed Whey protein!

>

> do not be ripped off by Immunocal!

>

> You can buy the same cold processed Whey protein a lot cheaper!

>

> for a much better Whey protein that is a lot cheaper go to:

>

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October 25, 1999

The difference is that all the research has been done by doctor Bounous

with immunocal studies and any one else is coattailing.

Love

LloydAt 12:32 PM 10/25/99 EDT, you wrote:

>In a message dated 99-10-24 14:17:40 EDT, you write:

>

><< http://www.lef.org/prod_desc/item558.html

> >>

>What is the difference between Immunocol and the Life Extension Product.

>Also what is the difference in price????

>Thanks,

>Carol B

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October 25, 1999

Thanks Debbie you really know what to say. truth.

Love

LloydAt 11:14 AM 10/25/99 -0700, you wrote:

>Carol

>The difference that I can see between the two, is with Immunocal the

>creator of it is Dr. Bounous. Dr Bounous has spent over twenty years

>studing and researching the benefit of immunocal in raising

>glutathione, fifteen of those years were spent in a lab. His research

>has led to the patents, method of use, five in the USA , one strickly

>pertaining to cancer and one strickly pertaining to aids and the other

>three to do wtih raising immune response, one in Canada, on immune

>responce and one from Australia on cancer. And there are more patents

>pending. In January of 1999, medicaide and medicare in the USA are now

>covering and rembursing for Immunocal. There are six major pharmacuticl

>companies that have the rights to sell it in over sixty five countries.

>Only in North America is it sold through a form of networkmarketing

>called direct-tec. Everyone seems to see this as a down side to the

>product, but think about, through this means we have control on the

>price we pay for it.

>

>It has many on going clinical studies in many areas of disease.

>

>Dr. Larry Lands, of the Montreal Children's Hospital, recently

>completed the Healthy Adults Study, a double-blind pacebo study that

>demonstrated that HMS90/Immunocal improves muscle performance and

>increased blood gllutathione; the first time that an antioxidant was

>shown to increase the strength of the muscular contraction. His

>findings were presented at the American Lung Assosiation/American

>Thoracic Society International Conference in San Diego, California in

>April

>

>I had the priviledge of having Dr. Lands return my call a couple of

>weeks ago. I asked him a simple question. If immunocal is just a food

>supplement, then why the need for all the research? He told me that

>what he discovered, was that it is so much more, a very powerful agent

>is what he called it. And he would like to see it further researched

>with other diseases.

>

>As far as Immunocal goes this is what I know, and there is so much

>more. I think it is such a huge thing that we have the right to demand

>to know that it works. Immunocal is an awesome product in my opinion,

>but the real hero against disease is glutathione. I know through Dr.

>Bounous research that the method he uses is immunocal and I have seen

>studies that he and Dr. Barushel have done on other designer whey's.

>Immunocal wins in my book hands down.

>

>As for Life Extension, I believe you should check them out. I did. And

>I am still waiting to see the same studies that Dr. Bounous has done to

>proove that this is actually a whey protein that can raise glutathione

>by giving it cystine, and letting the body convert it to cysteine

>completing glutathione and giving my cells what they need. The cost is

>definitly cheaper, but is it better? You need to make that judgement

>call for yourself. I asked Molson about this. His answer was they

>must have the same studies to show they are as good as if not better.

>Please if someone can produce these clinical applications and studies,

>I would like to see them. I think that glutathione is to important to

>screw around with. I am not accusing these guys, maybe I am just

>misled, but the only real proof I have seen is Dr. Bounous's work and

>the work of his colleages.

>

>As for cost you will have to go to the Life Extension web site that has

>been given and you will see the cost of their product.

>

>Immunocal can be purchased many different ways. The choice is yours.

>You can become a customer of the company or you can become a

>distributer, getting it for the cheapest price possible. That is how I

>got involved. Our houshold goes through enough in a month being a

>customer was not a good thing $$$ wise.

>

>Before you decide look into the info further. Anyone can access this

>free call in North America 1-888-784-2222 or if you want to ask

>specifics the direct your calls to 1-450-9992 and ask for Molson,

>he will answer any of your questions.

>

>I can only tell you what I know of Immunocal, and I trully know nothing

>about Life Extension, except that the things I deem important, all the

>research saying it will do what it does, I am yet to see this. So if

>anyone can produce this please help us all get a better understanding

>of the difference or the fact that they say there is no difference.

>

>As for cost, decide first which will be more benefical. You can e-mail

>me privately if you like hamonicd@...

>

>I hope this gets us a responce, or in some way helps you make a choice

>for what it best.

>Debbie

>

>cbil-@... wrote:

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>> In a message dated 99-10-24 14:17:40 EDT, you write:

>>

>> << http://www.lef.org/prod_desc/item558.html

>> >>

>> What is the difference between Immunocol and the Life Extension

>Product.

>> Also what is the difference in price????

>> Thanks,

>> Carol B

>

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November 9, 1999

Excuse my ignorance but now that Immunocal is going to be in the PDR, will

my oncologist be able to prescribe it?

Judy

At 11:14 AM 10/25/99 -0700, you wrote: