testing

[Guest guest]

Maybe can weigh in on this but it is my understanding if it is testing for

all kids permission isn't needed but if it is specific to a triennial or iep a

signature of the parent is needed.

Out of office, Marcia

On May 19, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Carol AnCel <takecareoftoday@...> wrote:

> By law, they have to have to have your signature to test. Ask to see the

> document that gave your permission to test.

>

> When they can't produce it, you 'have' them. This would like a medical

> facility drawing blood or some other invasive procedure on a minor without

> permission.

>

>

>

> Carol in IL

> Mom to , 10!!!!

>

> *Club Layton* <http://clublayton.blogspot.com/>

> Where games are played, and friends are made!

> *A big THANK you to :*

> Layton Athletics <http://laytonathletics.com/>

> 5402 Austin Court

> Ringwood, IL 60072-9404

> (815) 728-9700

> *for their generous *donation* of their building for our activities!!*

>

>

>

>

> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, <Loree5@...> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> I just got a copy of Micahs IEP for next year and find out that there was

>> testing done on him for articulation and the peabody picture vocabulary

>> test.? My question is this.? No one told me about this testing (not that I

>> really mind this particular testing) but isn't the school suppose to get

>> prior approval from a parent and, or discuss that the test has taken place

>> and go over it.? I could not beleive it when I saw it on his IEP and it was

>> never even brought up at the meeting.

>> ?

>> Loree

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

This doesn't sound like the testing that was done for all the children like our

AIMS testing in AZ or our district DAP tests. These tests are specific to

children with disabilities. As a parent, I would be VERY upset if they did the

testing without asking us first.. and having a discussion as to what all the

tests involved, what they were looking for while doing the tests, and what they

were going to do with the results.

This would NOT sit well with me at ALL!

[Guest guest]

Schools must obtain written informed parent consent for any testing of a

IDEA eligible child with two exceptions: 1) if the test is generally

administered to other children (like standardized testing) or 2) if the test

is specified in the IEP, usually as a progress measure. The tests you

mentioned don't fall under exception 1. If you never consented and the tests

aren't already on the IEP that was being implemented when the tests were

given, the district probably violated regulations.

Parents don't have to sign the consent, certainly not at the meeting, and

can request information about the tests used and request other testing, or

more or less testing if they think appropriate. Once the evaluations are

determined and consented, timelines for completion of the evaluations begin.

Once a test is given under one of the above conditions, parents are to

receive a copy of evaluation results at no cost to parents (timelines on

this may vary by state, but within a reasonable time). Sounds like you never

got a copy of the eval results, so that's maybe another violation. You might

want to start by asking for a copy of the results and double checking the

then-current IEP to make sure the evals aren't mentioned there so that you

are prepared to document and discuss your concerns with the school.

Judi

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Kerrigan

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:55 PM

Loree5@...

Cc:

Subject: Re: Testing

I know that we just had triennial review and there was a

testing plan with all the possible tests, and the ones they were going

to administer were checked off, and noted by whom they were requested

by. We had to sign this, and then when more people jumped on the

bandwagon and wanted to do additional/different testing, we had to sign

an ammended testing plan sheet.

I would assume that the same is true for any official assessment.

, mom to (15) (13 DS) and Sammy (11)

On 5/19/2011 3:23 PM, Loree5@... <mailto:Loree5%40aol.com> wrote:

>

> I just got a copy of Micahs IEP for next year and find out that there

> was testing done on him for articulation and the peabody picture

> vocabulary test.? My question is this.? No one told me about this

> testing (not that I really mind this particular testing) but isn't the

> school suppose to get prior approval from a parent and, or discuss

> that the test has taken place and go over it.? I could not beleive it

> when I saw it on his IEP and it was never even brought up at the meeting.

> ?

> Loree

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have to admit that I don't understand the aversion to testing. It is

a necessary process in teaching and learning in order to evaluate what

really needs to be taught to the student. If you really feel that it

will be used only to deny services to your child and not in a

constructive fashion, that is different. In the process of altering

material in a regular classroom for a particular student, it is

important that the person creating the lesson understands what is

appropriate to the student and doesn't either make the lesson so hard

that comprehension and retention are near zero with accompanying

confusion or to aim to low and only teach what the person already knows.

Yes it was over 30 years ago that our daughter was one of the first with

DS allowed into open SPED classrooms and taught as much as they could

learn. We never questioned the testing and found everything from IQ to

informal evaluations useful. They did not define the person, but they

gave good indicators of how she was doing and what she needed. IQ was

particularly interesting in her case in that it stayed quite constant ..

even after they said that we should expect her to plateau in her mid-teens.

In a good system, teaching is to deliver a curriculum (sometimes a

modified one). Testing shows if the students are learning which is a

measure of both teacher and student. It can be done well and be useful.

Life outcomes are often the results of tests or competitions. That

applies both to admission to Harvard and also to adult outcomes for

people with down syndrome. There is a high degree if individuality

among those with down syndrome. There isn't a " one program fits all " .

Testing is one of the many factors needed to help the individual achieve

and not give up.

Rick .. dad to 38 year old Jan.

[Guest guest]

Personally I have no problems with testing for all the reasons you stated.

I do draw the line at obtaining an IQ number though, so for that reason, I

would raise hell if anyone tested her with out written consent from me.

Carol in IL

Mom to , 10!!!!

*Club Layton* <http://clublayton.blogspot.com/>

Where games are played, and friends are made!

*A big THANK you to :*

Layton Athletics <http://laytonathletics.com/>

5402 Austin Court

Ringwood, IL 60072-9404

(815) 728-9700

*for their generous *donation* of their building for our activities!!*

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Rick Dill <rdill@...> wrote:

>

>

> I have to admit that I don't understand the aversion to testing. It is

> a necessary process in teaching and learning in order to evaluate what

> really needs to be taught to the student. If you really feel that it

> will be used only to deny services to your child and not in a

> constructive fashion, that is different. In the process of altering

> material in a regular classroom for a particular student, it is

> important that the person creating the lesson understands what is

> appropriate to the student and doesn't either make the lesson so hard

> that comprehension and retention are near zero with accompanying

> confusion or to aim to low and only teach what the person already knows.

>

> Yes it was over 30 years ago that our daughter was one of the first with

> DS allowed into open SPED classrooms and taught as much as they could

> learn. We never questioned the testing and found everything from IQ to

> informal evaluations useful. They did not define the person, but they

> gave good indicators of how she was doing and what she needed. IQ was

> particularly interesting in her case in that it stayed quite constant ..

> even after they said that we should expect her to plateau in her mid-teens.

>

> In a good system, teaching is to deliver a curriculum (sometimes a

> modified one). Testing shows if the students are learning which is a

> measure of both teacher and student. It can be done well and be useful.

>

> Life outcomes are often the results of tests or competitions. That

> applies both to admission to Harvard and also to adult outcomes for

> people with down syndrome. There is a high degree if individuality

> among those with down syndrome. There isn't a " one program fits all " .

> Testing is one of the many factors needed to help the individual achieve

> and not give up.

>

> Rick .. dad to 38 year old Jan.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with Rick & Carol, I don't have a problem with testing as a general

rule. My daughter doesn't test well (or is it the testers?) but the school

realizes that and they know what she can do. They did IQ testing in

preschool and we have agreed there is no need to do it again.

Colleen

Mom to Elise, 9 & in the 3rd grade

On 5/20/11 8:08 PM, " Carol AnCel " <takecareoftoday@...> wrote:

> Personally I have no problems with testing for all the reasons you stated.

> I do draw the line at obtaining an IQ number though, so for that reason, I

> would raise hell if anyone tested her with out written consent from me.

>

> Carol in IL

> Mom to , 10!!!!

>

> *Club Layton* <http://clublayton.blogspot.com/>

> Where games are played, and friends are made!

> *A big THANK you to :*

> Layton Athletics <http://laytonathletics.com/>

> 5402 Austin Court

> Ringwood, IL 60072-9404

> (815) 728-9700

> *for their generous *donation* of their building for our activities!!*

>

>

>

>

> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Rick Dill <rdill@...> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> I have to admit that I don't understand the aversion to testing. It is

>> a necessary process in teaching and learning in order to evaluate what

>> really needs to be taught to the student. If you really feel that it

>> will be used only to deny services to your child and not in a

>> constructive fashion, that is different. In the process of altering

>> material in a regular classroom for a particular student, it is

>> important that the person creating the lesson understands what is

>> appropriate to the student and doesn't either make the lesson so hard

>> that comprehension and retention are near zero with accompanying

>> confusion or to aim to low and only teach what the person already knows.

>>

>> Yes it was over 30 years ago that our daughter was one of the first with

>> DS allowed into open SPED classrooms and taught as much as they could

>> learn. We never questioned the testing and found everything from IQ to

>> informal evaluations useful. They did not define the person, but they

>> gave good indicators of how she was doing and what she needed. IQ was

>> particularly interesting in her case in that it stayed quite constant ..

>> even after they said that we should expect her to plateau in her mid-teens.

>>

>> In a good system, teaching is to deliver a curriculum (sometimes a

>> modified one). Testing shows if the students are learning which is a

>> measure of both teacher and student. It can be done well and be useful.

>>

>> Life outcomes are often the results of tests or competitions. That

>> applies both to admission to Harvard and also to adult outcomes for

>> people with down syndrome. There is a high degree if individuality

>> among those with down syndrome. There isn't a " one program fits all " .

>> Testing is one of the many factors needed to help the individual achieve

>> and not give up.

>>

>> Rick .. dad to 38 year old Jan.

>>

>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't have a problem with testing but no one has the right to do so without my

knowledge and it is the law. So if they can do this without the parent what else

are they doing without the consent and knowledge of the parent. As a parent I

every right to know what you are doing with my child in school special needs or

not. Just my 2 cents worth. Patty

Sent via MOTOBLURâ„¢ on Verizon Wireless

Re: re: testing

Personally I have no problems with testing for all the reasons you stated.

I do draw the line at obtaining an IQ number though, so for that reason, I

would raise hell if anyone tested her with out written consent from me.

Carol in IL

Mom to , 10!!!!

*Club Layton* <http://clublayton.blogspot.com/>

Where games are played, and friends are made!

*A big THANK you to :*

Layton Athletics <http://laytonathletics.com/>

5402 Austin Court

Ringwood, IL 60072-9404

(815) 728-9700

*for their generous *donation* of their building for our activities!!*

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Rick Dill <rdill@...> wrote:

>

>

> I have to admit that I don't understand the aversion to testing. It is

> a necessary process in teaching and learning in order to evaluate what

> really needs to be taught to the student. If you really feel that it

> will be used only to deny services to your child and not in a

> constructive fashion, that is different. In the process of altering

> material in a regular classroom for a particular student, it is

> important that the person creating the lesson understands what is

> appropriate to the student and doesn't either make the lesson so hard

> that comprehension and retention are near zero with accompanying

> confusion or to aim to low and only teach what the person already knows.

>

> Yes it was over 30 years ago that our daughter was one of the first with

> DS allowed into open SPED classrooms and taught as much as they could

> learn. We never questioned the testing and found everything from IQ to

> informal evaluations useful. They did not define the person, but they

> gave good indicators of how she was doing and what she needed. IQ was

> particularly interesting in her case in that it stayed quite constant ..

> even after they said that we should expect her to plateau in her mid-teens.

>

> In a good system, teaching is to deliver a curriculum (sometimes a

> modified one). Testing shows if the students are learning which is a

> measure of both teacher and student. It can be done well and be useful.

>

> Life outcomes are often the results of tests or competitions. That

> applies both to admission to Harvard and also to adult outcomes for

> people with down syndrome. There is a high degree if individuality

> among those with down syndrome. There isn't a " one program fits all " .

> Testing is one of the many factors needed to help the individual achieve

> and not give up.

>

> Rick .. dad to 38 year old Jan.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with you Rick and would not have had any problem with the particluar 

testing the school was doing but I have a right to know that they are testing my

child and the outcome of those tests.  My school district was not following

Micah's IEP and doing, basically what they wanted to do, until I raised my

voice.  The last two years have been heaven and I don't want them to lower

the bar again.  Besides we spent Huge bucks last year having a neuro phsych

done so that we knew it was accurate for the exact reasons you stated, getting

him what was appropriate for him.  I had no problem sharing all the info I

received with the school and I deserve the same courtesy,besides it being the

law. Testing is extremely useful when used properly and I believe in this

instance the intentions were honorabe...that is why I will speak with the SPED

director in a kindly manner asking for copies of the testing results and

reminding her that we are very involved parents and a part of the " team " and so

need to be kept abreast of all testing and results as it is also important to us

as parents in helping our child to learn at home as well.

 

Loree

re: testing

  I have to admit that I don't understand the aversion to testing. It is

a necessary process in teaching and learning in order to evaluate what

really needs to be taught to the student. If you really feel that it

will be used only to deny services to your child and not in a

constructive fashion, that is different. In the process of altering

material in a regular classroom for a particular student, it is

important that the person creating the lesson understands what is

appropriate to the student and doesn't either make the lesson so hard

that comprehension and retention are near zero with accompanying

confusion or to aim to low and only teach what the person already knows.

Yes it was over 30 years ago that our daughter was one of the first with

DS allowed into open SPED classrooms and taught as much as they could

learn. We never questioned the testing and found everything from IQ to

informal evaluations useful. They did not define the person, but they

gave good indicators of how she was doing and what she needed. IQ was

particularly interesting in her case in that it stayed quite constant ..

even after they said that we should expect her to plateau in her mid-teens.

In a good system, teaching is to deliver a curriculum (sometimes a

modified one). Testing shows if the students are learning which is a

measure of both teacher and student. It can be done well and be useful.

Life outcomes are often the results of tests or competitions. That

applies both to admission to Harvard and also to adult outcomes for

people with down syndrome. There is a high degree if individuality

among those with down syndrome. There isn't a " one program fits all " .

Testing is one of the many factors needed to help the individual achieve

and not give up.

Rick .. dad to 38 year old Jan.

[Guest guest]

This situation has nothing to do with whether we want to allow our child to be

tested or not.. it's about our rights as parents.

[Guest guest]

Did you sign any blanket permissions at the beginning of the school

year? In the preschool I work at we send out a packet of forms and one

of them is a permission to evaluate the child. It lists no specific

testing tools -- it is just a broad non-specific permission to evaluate.

Neither of the tests you mentioned are IQ tests, but they do help the

speech pathologist to design specific goals for your child. I was an

anti-testing parent. I think people can become to reliant on a number

and lose sight of the child--their strengths as well as their

weaknesses. Because of this I talked at length with a school

psychologist and she explained that there are many ways of evaluating

a child. Some come in the form of numerous testing tools available--

these give the professional a quantitative measurement -- the child is

2 standard deviations below the norm; the child is in the 2nd

percentile, etc. Another way of evaluating a child is to observe the

child and write a narrative about their progress -- qualitative

measurement. Since children with DS often score lower than where they

are functioning she believed qualitative evaluations gave a truer

picture of strengths and needs.

The only time I allowed quantitative testing was when Sheila was

transitioning into adult services.

, mom of Sheila, 24-yr-old with DS and multiple secondary diagnoses

[Guest guest]

I too never understood the aversion to testing. Then, when my daughter was

entering an intermediate school (she was and is in a spec ed self contained

classroom), the new teacher looked at her IQ score and determined she did

not belong in her classroom because her IQ was too low. I have since

encouraged all parents to be very wary of any testing done. It was a wasted

year and added to the on-going communication issue Bridget has. Bridget is

now 18. We are living in a different state. I have teachers that have

formed real connections with my daughter and have high expectations of her.

I am amazed at what she can do and her attitude in general is better. Just

imagine if this teacher had sought to actually teach each student to the

best of each student's ability, we may just be at a different fork in the

road.

Testing is needed. I have learned about the test out there and ask many

questions about test that we can use to better understand what my daughter

really knows. Be informed. File complaints when you feel your or your

child's rights have been violated. Until we all do this, it will never ever

change.

, mom to Bridget, 18!, and graduating High School in a few weeks

[Guest guest]

So true.....there have been so many times my rights were ignored.

Unfortunately. This happens all the time. Bottom line is that there are reasons

why parents have rights...and a reason why there are laws to protect their

rights. And if nothing is said, then rights will be continued to be violated.

and FRANK <michdock@...> wrote:

>This situation has nothing to do with whether we want to allow our child to be

tested or not.. it's about our rights as parents.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here is where we really differ. I was always concerned about my

daughter. Things worked a whole lot better if we worked together as a

team for her benefit. That worked mostly.

Sometimes we ran into instances where they didn't want her. We fought

that hard once to get her into a class that we thought would teach her.

She was taken under protest, but they did their job and she learned to

read even though they said that they wouldn't teach her tat because of

her speech. They took credit for the achievement and life was better

after that. Yes, in high school she was black-balled by the teacher of

the nurses-aide training program. Well, they didn't want her, so they

couldn't have her. We didn't fight even though I'd done my homework and

established the possibility that she actually could complete the

training and get licensed. It is only something like 26 things that a

nurses-aide is trained for and allowed to do. It isn't making medical

decisions. OK .. the Girls Scouts rejected her. Again, we didn't

fight, but later she had two amazing summers at a Girl Scout Camp where

she was the first handicapped student to do the obstacle course.

We never pushed for parent's rights. Sure sometimes they may have been

violated, but the end result was a supportive education for my child,

even though it had some pretty pretty questionable things happen.

Rick ... who thinks that life requires working with people and

utilizing their strengths rather than confrontation

On 5/20/2011 11:09 PM, and FRANK wrote:

> This situation has nothing to do with whether we want to allow our

> child to be tested or not.. it's about our rights as parents.

>

[Guest guest]

I think we have learned the art of give and take and also when to know

winning the battle won't help MY child, but I am going to fight those

battles anyway!!! The reason I will fight and never back down is one of

principal.

It's simply wrong to treat people that way and unless we all stand up for

each of our children, it will never change or get easier for the next group

coming up. I refuse to allow them to treat people with DS that way. I am in

this for the long haul and not just for my kid to through the system. There

is a bigger cause here.

Carol in IL

Mom to , 10!!!!

*Club Layton* <http://clublayton.blogspot.com/>

Where games are played, and friends are made!

*A big THANK you to :*

Layton Athletics <http://laytonathletics.com/>

5402 Austin Court

Ringwood, IL 60072-9404

(815) 728-9700

*for their generous *donation* of their building for our activities!!*

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Rick Dill <rdill@...> wrote:

>

>

> Here is where we really differ. I was always concerned about my

> daughter. Things worked a whole lot better if we worked together as a

> team for her benefit. That worked mostly.

>

> Sometimes we ran into instances where they didn't want her. We fought

> that hard once to get her into a class that we thought would teach her.

> She was taken under protest, but they did their job and she learned to

> read even though they said that they wouldn't teach her tat because of

> her speech. They took credit for the achievement and life was better

> after that. Yes, in high school she was black-balled by the teacher of

> the nurses-aide training program. Well, they didn't want her, so they

> couldn't have her. We didn't fight even though I'd done my homework and

> established the possibility that she actually could complete the

> training and get licensed. It is only something like 26 things that a

> nurses-aide is trained for and allowed to do. It isn't making medical

> decisions. OK .. the Girls Scouts rejected her. Again, we didn't

> fight, but later she had two amazing summers at a Girl Scout Camp where

> she was the first handicapped student to do the obstacle course.

>

> We never pushed for parent's rights. Sure sometimes they may have been

> violated, but the end result was a supportive education for my child,

> even though it had some pretty pretty questionable things happen.

>

> Rick ... who thinks that life requires working with people and

> utilizing their strengths rather than confrontation

>

>

> On 5/20/2011 11:09 PM, and FRANK wrote:

> > This situation has nothing to do with whether we want to allow our

> > child to be tested or not.. it's about our rights as parents.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

We sign for testing permission a year in advance.  If you are unsure ask for

a copy of your permission, they can't test without it.

Amy

 

________________________________

From: " Loree5@... " <Loree5@...>

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:23 PM

Subject: Testing

 

I just got a copy of Micahs IEP for next year and find out that there was

testing done on him for articulation and the peabody picture vocabulary test.?

My question is this.? No one told me about this testing (not that I really mind

this particular testing) but isn't the school suppose to get prior approval from

a parent and, or discuss that the test has taken place and go over it.? I could

not beleive it when I saw it on his IEP and it was never even brought up at the

meeting.

?

Loree

[Guest guest]

test

[Guest guest]

.. From: Doris Kennedy <kean2465@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Re: testing

test

[Guest guest]

Hi Doris & los

that test out here ,

I found this site , clams 543 day a mite lived without food . , bet is can't

with out water , I pra windex in pans of water & the bug dissappead totoaly from

my kitchn under & around the sink . Baking soda dries out bugs to I use it on

my floor & everywhere ,When I walk in it my feet crack in 50 spots & I have to

put plastic bags on my feet with vaseline to emulsify

Here is a good site I found

Troublesome Invisible Biting Mites Central: ratproofing

http://mitescentral.blogspot.com/search/label/ratproofing

Troublesome Invisible BitingMites Central

I intend to use this blog tohelp people understand andfight invisible or

nearlymicroscopic mites thatinfest humans as secondaryhosts. I hope that my

blogwill make availableacademic resources, links,and information that willhelp

victims, medicalpersonnel, entomologists,pest control operators, andothers make

correct decisions concerning biting mites.

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Thursday, February 14, 2008

Florinated Silica Aerogel Dustas an Effective Mite ControlAgent

This explanation of how tocontrol blood sucking mites(Tropical Rat Mite,

HouseMouse Mite, Chicken Mite,and Northern Fowl Mite) isone of the best I have

runinto. It may be difficult tofind someone who uses thismethod to control

mites,but if you find a pestcontrol service that does, letme know. This portion

isexcerpted from WalterEbeling's Urban EntomologyChapter 9 Part 3 (Link here):

" Within some householdscertain individuals areaffected while others arenot.

Sometimes, much timeand money will be spent onineffective medication andit is

usually difficult for theinfested person to obtain acorrect diagnosis.

Thisacariasis cannot be distinguished from flea bites, and issometimes

misidentified asscabies.

" The complete control ofrats would, of course,eventually result in

theelimination of tropical ratmites from infested premises. However, rat

controloften proves to be difficult,and " ratproofing " an atticmay also be

difficult andvery expensive. It shouldalso be borne in mind thattrapping or

otherwise killingrats may increase theattacks on the inhabitants ofthe house for

a timebecause of the suddenlyincreased number of mitesthat leave the bodies of

thedead rats. Unfed protonymphs have been observed tosurvive for as long a

periodas 43 days without food (Sudd, 1952).

" Acaricides that depend ontoxic action lose their toxicity too rapidly,

particularly inthe high summer temperatures of an attic. Reinfestation may then

occur. HCN gasfumigation has been usedsuccessfully, but it isexpensive and

leaves noresidue.

" The successful results of afluorinated silica aerogeldust, blown into attics

forthe prevention of drywoodtermites (Incisitermesminor) suggested a similaruse

of this material for thecontrol of the tropical ratmite (Ebeling, 1960). In

5infested houses and 1 2-story apartment house, ineach of which 1 or

moreinhabitants had been attacked by rat mites for prolonged periods, the

silicaaerogel Dri-die 67 wasblown into the attic at therate of 1 lb to 1,000 sq

ft (0.45 kg to 93 sq m) of atticarea. For 4 of the houses,the dust was also

blowninto the crawl space underthe house at the same rate (for floor space) as

that forthe attic area. An electricduster with a 1-gal (4-L)hopper was used to

applythe dust. In the attic, thedust was applied entirelyfrom the crawl hole,

andunder the house, from 1 or2 crawl holes or a largernumber of foundationvents.

Since in all cases themites were already distributed throughout the

dwelling,some dust was applied witha small bellows

hand dusterunder mattresses, on thespring supports of beds,along the edges and

in the4 corners of bed frames,into the junctures of seatsand back or arm rests

andunder the pillows of sofasand lounges, under furniture and other out-of-the

wayplaces, and in a few spotsalong the floor boards andceiling moldings.

" The decision to make useof Dri-die 67 dust wasmade in an effort to bringabout

the immediate cessation of mite attacks. Principalreliance was placed on

thedusting of the attic forlongterm control.

" Rat mites may live as longas 63 days with no food (, 1949), so those

notcoming into contact withthe dust may continue toinfest the inhabitants of

ahouse. In all the buildingstreated, severe infestationshad been experienced

upto the date of treatment,but ceased immediatelyafterward, and were

neverresumed except in 1 housewhere the housewifereceived a few more bites

ps :

Loviatar

I searched the words: '

fluorinated silica aerogel dust hazard '

fluorinated silica aerogel dust hazard

Says not good to breathe

God bless you ,

Bill

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On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 9:46 AM EST Doris Kennedy wrote:

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That is a really good article Bill. Thanks for the info.From: " Doe" <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:21:36 AMSubject: Re: Re: testingHi Doris & los that test out here , I found this site , clams 543 day a mite lived without food . , bet is can't with out water , I pra windex in pans of water & the bug dissappead totoaly from my kitchn under & around the sink . Baking soda dries out bugs to I use it on my floor & everywhere ,When I walk in it my feet crack in 50 spots & I have to put plastic bags on my feet with vaseline to emulsify Here is a good site I found Troublesome Invisible Biting Mites Central: ratproofinghttp://mitescentral.blogspot.com/search/label/ratproofingTroublesome Invisible BitingMites CentralI intend to use this blog tohelp people understand andfight invisible or nearlymicroscopic mites thatinfest humans as secondaryhosts. I hope that my blogwill make availableacademic resources, links,and information that willhelp victims, medicalpersonnel, entomologists,pest control operators, andothers make correct decisions concerning biting mites.Showing posts with labelratproofing.Show all postsShowing posts with labelratproofing.Show all postsThursday, February 14, 2008Florinated Silica Aerogel Dustas an Effective Mite ControlAgentThis explanation of how tocontrol blood sucking mites(Tropical Rat Mite, HouseMouse Mite, Chicken Mite,and Northern Fowl Mite) isone of the best I have runinto. It may be difficult tofind someone who uses thismethod to control mites,but if you find a pestcontrol service that does, letme know. This portion isexcerpted from WalterEbeling's Urban EntomologyChapter 9 Part 3 (Link here):"Within some householdscertain individuals areaffected while others arenot. Sometimes, much timeand money will be spent onineffective medication andit is usually difficult for theinfested person to obtain acorrect diagnosis. Thisacariasis cannot be distinguished from flea bites, and issometimes misidentified asscabies."The complete control ofrats would, of course,eventually result in theelimination of tropical ratmites from infested premises. However, rat controloften proves to be difficult,and "ratproofing" an atticmay also be difficult andvery expensive. It shouldalso be borne in mind thattrapping or otherwise killingrats may increase theattacks on the inhabitants ofthe house for a timebecause of the suddenlyincreased number of mitesthat leave the bodies of thedead rats. Unfed protonymphs have been observed tosurvive for as long a periodas 43 days without food (Sudd, 1952)."Acaricides that depend ontoxic action lose their toxicity too rapidly, particularly inthe high summer temperatures of an attic. Reinfestation may then occur. HCN gasfumigation has been usedsuccessfully, but it isexpensive and leaves noresidue."The successful results of afluorinated silica aerogeldust, blown into attics forthe prevention of drywoodtermites (Incisitermesminor) suggested a similaruse of this material for thecontrol of the tropical ratmite (Ebeling, 1960). In 5infested houses and 1 2-story apartment house, ineach of which 1 or moreinhabitants had been attacked by rat mites for prolonged periods, the silicaaerogel Dri-die 67 wasblown into the attic at therate of 1 lb to 1,000 sq ft (0.45 kg to 93 sq m) of atticarea. For 4 of the houses,the dust was also blowninto the crawl space underthe house at the same rate (for floor space) as that forthe attic area. An electricduster with a 1-gal (4-L)hopper was used to applythe dust. In the attic, thedust was applied entirelyfrom the crawl hole, andunder the house, from 1 or2 crawl holes or a largernumber of foundationvents. Since in all cases themites were already distributed throughout the dwelling,some dust was applied witha small bellows hand dusterunder mattresses, on thespring supports of beds,along the edges and in the4 corners of bed frames,into the junctures of seatsand back or arm rests andunder the pillows of sofasand lounges, under furniture and other out-of-the wayplaces, and in a few spotsalong the floor boards andceiling moldings."The decision to make useof Dri-die 67 dust wasmade in an effort to bringabout the immediate cessation of mite attacks. Principalreliance was placed on thedusting of the attic forlongterm control."Rat mites may live as longas 63 days with no food (, 1949), so those notcoming into contact withthe dust may continue toinfest the inhabitants of ahouse. In all the buildingstreated, severe infestationshad been experienced upto the date of treatment,but ceased immediatelyafterward, and were neverresumed except in 1 housewhere the housewifereceived a few more bitesps : Loviatar I searched the words: ' fluorinated silica aerogel dust hazard ' fluorinated silica aerogel dust hazardSays not good to breathe God bless you , Bill--------------------------- >test------------------------------------

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HI, Bill!|This was a good article, something for you who still got the mites to try!!Let us know how/if it works for you.KRCecilia From: Doe <doe1769@...> bird mites Sent: Saturday,

March 10, 2012 5:21 PM Subject: Re: Re: testing

Hi Doris & los

that test out here ,

I found this site , clams 543 day a mite lived without food . , bet is can't with out water , I pra windex in pans of water & the bug dissappead totoaly from my kitchn under & around the sink . Baking soda dries out bugs to I use it on my floor & everywhere ,When I walk in it my feet crack in 50 spots & I have to put plastic bags on my feet with vaseline to emulsify

Here is a good site I found

Troublesome Invisible Biting Mites Central: ratproofing

http://mitescentral.blogspot.com/search/label/ratproofing

Troublesome Invisible BitingMites Central

I intend to use this blog tohelp people understand andfight invisible or nearlymicroscopic mites thatinfest humans as secondaryhosts. I hope that my blogwill make availableacademic resources, links,and information that willhelp victims, medicalpersonnel, entomologists,pest control operators, andothers make correct decisions concerning biting mites.

Showing posts with labelratproofing.Show all posts

Showing posts with labelratproofing.Show all posts

Thursday, February 14, 2008

Florinated Silica Aerogel Dustas an Effective Mite ControlAgent

This explanation of how tocontrol blood sucking mites(Tropical Rat Mite, HouseMouse Mite, Chicken Mite,and Northern Fowl Mite) isone of the best I have runinto. It may be difficult tofind someone who uses thismethod to control mites,but if you find a pestcontrol service that does, letme know. This portion isexcerpted from WalterEbeling's Urban EntomologyChapter 9 Part 3 (Link here):

"Within some householdscertain individuals areaffected while others arenot. Sometimes, much timeand money will be spent onineffective medication andit is usually difficult for theinfested person to obtain acorrect diagnosis. Thisacariasis cannot be distinguished from flea bites, and issometimes misidentified asscabies.

"The complete control ofrats would, of course,eventually result in theelimination of tropical ratmites from infested premises. However, rat controloften proves to be difficult,and "ratproofing" an atticmay also be difficult andvery expensive. It shouldalso be borne in mind thattrapping or otherwise killingrats may increase theattacks on the inhabitants ofthe house for a timebecause of the suddenlyincreased number of mitesthat leave the bodies of thedead rats. Unfed protonymphs have been observed tosurvive for as long a periodas 43 days without food (Sudd, 1952).

"Acaricides that depend ontoxic action lose their toxicity too rapidly, particularly inthe high summer temperatures of an attic. Reinfestation may then occur. HCN gasfumigation has been usedsuccessfully, but it isexpensive and leaves noresidue.

"The successful results of afluorinated silica aerogeldust, blown into attics forthe prevention of drywoodtermites (Incisitermesminor) suggested a similaruse of this material for thecontrol of the tropical ratmite (Ebeling, 1960). In 5infested houses and 1 2-story apartment house, ineach of which 1 or moreinhabitants had been attacked by rat mites for prolonged periods, the silicaaerogel Dri-die 67 wasblown into the attic at therate of 1 lb to 1,000 sq ft (0.45 kg to 93 sq m) of atticarea. For 4 of the houses,the dust was also blowninto the crawl space underthe house at the same rate (for floor space) as that forthe attic area. An electricduster with a 1-gal (4-L)hopper was used to applythe dust. In the attic, thedust was applied entirelyfrom the crawl hole, andunder the house, from 1 or2 crawl holes or a largernumber of foundationvents. Since in all cases themites were already distributed throughout the dwelling,some dust was applied witha small

bellows

hand dusterunder mattresses, on thespring supports of beds,along the edges and in the4 corners of bed frames,into the junctures of seatsand back or arm rests andunder the pillows of sofasand lounges, under furniture and other out-of-the wayplaces, and in a few spotsalong the floor boards andceiling moldings.

"The decision to make useof Dri-die 67 dust wasmade in an effort to bringabout the immediate cessation of mite attacks. Principalreliance was placed on thedusting of the attic forlongterm control.

"Rat mites may live as longas 63 days with no food (, 1949), so those notcoming into contact withthe dust may continue toinfest the inhabitants of ahouse. In all the buildingstreated, severe infestationshad been experienced upto the date of treatment,but ceased immediatelyafterward, and were neverresumed except in 1 housewhere the housewifereceived a few more bites

ps :

Loviatar

I searched the words: '

fluorinated silica aerogel dust hazard '

fluorinated silica aerogel dust hazard

Says not good to breathe

God bless you ,

Bill

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On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 9:46 AM EST Doris Kennedy wrote:

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