Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Hi Alison, I had a baby 4 months ago and refused vit k at the hospital. Vitamin K, which is important for blood clotting and is manufactured by gut bacteria. I knew when I was pregnant to take a probiotic often and the usual recommendation of lots of vegs (organic) and fruit. I Kept an eye on my own gut bacteria and when I started breastfeeding, my milk encouraged baby to make own Vit k. Geir is right to recommend looking after immume system - had a cold few weeks ago, baby got nasty chesty cough but I increased intake of vit c, selenium and voila gone. Important to avoid going down antibiotic route. Breastfeeding is best. I have 3 amalgam root fillings and was planning to get these removed but with baby, my advise is not to disturb them but again look after your immune system to help the baby. After the baby is born, the helpful Health visitor gave her usual recommendation about vacinnation. Great! You sign a form refusing vacinnation so you get no reminders. Told my HV I would make my own arrangements later on when the baby is older (not) but also pointed out to her that having one autisic child is enough. Thanks but no thanks. Brought the baby few weeks ago for his 6 week checkup and the doctor got a little upset that the baby made a little poo. My husband turned on him and said dont worry the poo has got no live virus. That shut the doctor up. Good luck with the pregnancy (follow your own instincts for whats best for baby) - take a multivitamin, probiotic EFA's and all we can do in life is learn from our experiences. We are but a small but vocal minority. Whats wrong with the education provision for autistic children in this country. Wish my child was in America for biomedical/education and living in England. Dream on........... Well thats IMHO, Bridget > > From: " Alison on " <a.morrison@...> > Date: 2006/05/02 Tue PM 03:19:11 BST > <Autism Treatment > > Subject: Breastfeeding > > Hi everyone. I have been a member of this group for some time but haven't actually posted before. I have little boy aged six and a half with mild to moderate autism. We have implemented biomedical treatments with him since diagnosis at age two and a half and he is a much improved little boy as a result. We also have a NT girl age four and I am expecting baby number three in July. > > I would really value your opinions on whether or not I should breast feed my new baby given that I have a fair number of amalgam fillings in my mouth.? Ideally I would have had these fillings removed before falling pregnant but as usual life does not always go to plan! > > If breast feeding is not such a good idea, do you have any recommendations on formula? > > Finally any comments on whether or not to give the vitamin K injection/oral drops? My daughter is not vaccinated and we will not be vaccinating this child. > > Many thanks fro all your help and comments. > > Alison > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Hi Alison You have received a great reply (below) but I just wanted to add that you can always have your breast milk tested to give you some reassurance. If it's clear you won't have to worry. This is something I wish I'd done myself! Breastmilk is high in vitamin K and a way better option all round than formula. All the best to you with your pregnancy Sharon > > Hi Alison, > I had a baby 4 months ago and refused vit k at the hospital. Vitamin K, which is important for blood clotting and is manufactured by gut bacteria. I knew when I was pregnant to take a probiotic often and the usual recommendation of lots of vegs (organic) and fruit. I Kept an eye on my own gut bacteria and when I started breastfeeding, my milk encouraged baby to make own Vit k. Geir is right to recommend looking after immume system - had a cold few weeks ago, baby got nasty chesty cough but I increased intake of vit c, selenium and voila gone. Important to avoid going down antibiotic route. Breastfeeding is best. I have 3 amalgam root fillings and was planning to get these removed but with baby, my advise is not to disturb them but again look after your immune system to help the baby. > > After the baby is born, the helpful Health visitor gave her usual recommendation about vacinnation. Great! You sign a form refusing vacinnation so you get no reminders. Told my HV I would make my own arrangements later on when the baby is older (not) but also pointed out to her that having one autisic child is enough. Thanks but no thanks. Brought the baby few weeks ago for his 6 week checkup and the doctor got a little upset that the baby made a little poo. My husband turned on him and said dont worry the poo has got no live virus. That shut the doctor up. > > Good luck with the pregnancy (follow your own instincts for whats best for baby) - take a multivitamin, probiotic EFA's and all we can do in life is learn from our experiences. We are but a small but vocal minority. > > Whats wrong with the education provision for autistic children in this country. Wish my child was in America for biomedical/education and living in England. Dream on........... > > Well thats IMHO, > Bridget > > > > > From: " Alison on " <a.morrison@...> > > Date: 2006/05/02 Tue PM 03:19:11 BST > > <Autism Treatment > > > Subject: Breastfeeding > > > > Hi everyone. I have been a member of this group for some time but haven't actually posted before. I have little boy aged six and a half with mild to moderate autism. We have implemented biomedical treatments with him since diagnosis at age two and a half and he is a much improved little boy as a result. We also have a NT girl age four and I am expecting baby number three in July. > > > > I would really value your opinions on whether or not I should breast feed my new baby given that I have a fair number of amalgam fillings in my mouth.? Ideally I would have had these fillings removed before falling pregnant but as usual life does not always go to plan! > > > > If breast feeding is not such a good idea, do you have any recommendations on formula? > > > > Finally any comments on whether or not to give the vitamin K injection/oral drops? My daughter is not vaccinated and we will not be vaccinating this child. > > > > Many thanks fro all your help and comments. > > > > Alison > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Do you know what preservative is in vitamin K? Breastfeeding> > Hi everyone. I have been a member of this group for some time but haven't actually posted before. I have little boy aged six and a half with mild to moderate autism. We have implemented biomedical treatments with him since diagnosis at age two and a half and he is a much improved little boy as a result. We also have a NT girl age four and I am expecting baby number three in July.> > I would really value your opinions on whether or not I should breast feed my new baby given that I have a fair number of amalgam fillings in my mouth.? Ideally I would have had these fillings removed before falling pregnant but as usual life does not always go to plan!> > If breast feeding is not such a good idea, do you have any recommendations on formula?> > Finally any comments on whether or not to give the vitamin K injection/oral drops? My daughter is not vaccinated and we will not be vaccinating this child.> > Many thanks fro all your help and comments.> > Alison> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Oh my godness, I gave birth to Jay at home and I remember the midwife saying she wasn't giving vit K as she thought it unnecessary, so glad she didn't, it sounds so innocent doesn't it when they say it's vitamin k, my first son more than likely had this though as he was born in hospital in Greece, not that they informed me beforehand of course!!, Josie On 3 May 2006, at 10:45, david miles wrote: > Hi Diane. > > This is what I found:- > > Vitamin K injections manufactured as recently as 1995 contain > hydrochloric acid " for pH adjustment. " Roche’s vitamin K product > KONAKION contains ingredients such as phenol (carbolic acid—a > poisonous > substance distilled from coal tar), propylene glycol (derived from > petroleum and used as an antifreeze and in hydraulic brake fluid) and > acetic acid (an astringent antimicrobial agent that may drastically > reduce the amount of natural vitamin K that would have otherwise been > produced in the digestive tract). As reported in the PDR and as > published in the IM vitamin K packet inserts > for Merck, Roche and Abbott, " Studies of carcinogenicity, > mutagenesis or > impairment of fertility have not been conducted with Vitamin K1 > Injection (Phytonadione Injection, USP). " > > Miles > > > Diane McGregor wrote: >> Do you know what preservative is in vitamin K? >> >> Breastfeeding >>> >>> Hi everyone. I have been a member of this group for some time >> but haven't actually posted before. I have little boy aged six >> and >> a half with mild to moderate autism. We have implemented >> biomedical treatments with him since diagnosis at age two and a >> half and he is a much improved little boy as a result. We also >> have a NT girl age four and I am expecting baby number three >> in July. >>> >>> I would really value your opinions on whether or not I should >> breast feed my new baby given that I have a fair number of >> amalgam >> fillings in my mouth.? Ideally I would have had these fillings >> removed before falling pregnant but as usual life does not always >> go to plan! >>> >>> If breast feeding is not such a good idea, do you have any >> recommendations on formula? >>> >>> Finally any comments on whether or not to give the vitamin K >> injection/oral drops? My daughter is not vaccinated and we will >> not be vaccinating this child. >>> >>> Many thanks fro all your help and comments. >>> >>> Alison >>> >> >> >> >> DISCLAIMER >> No information contained in this post is to be construed as >> medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a >> suitably qualified practitioner. >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> ! GROUPS LINKS >> >> * Visit your group " Autism Treatment >> <Autism-Biomedical- >> Europe> " on >> the web. >> * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 I'll add my two cents here too. I breastfed for two years with both of my boys and it actually helped my CFS symptoms not be quite so bad. It was after they weaned that I went back down to pre-pregnancy CFS health issues. I loved the feeling of being functionable during those first important and energy consuming years. Dawn in Ohio RE: Re: Perimenopause/testosterone/Schaller, MD > > > So, you are one of the few people out there who wouldn't give me strange > looks when I told you that I was still breastfeeding my 18 month old son? > It is nice to finally find someone who sees it my way! Thanks for the > encouragement. > > -Dawn > > > So. We wouldn't have PMS if we had a bunch ofkids and breastfed them> for > years at a time. Plus the kids would be much healthier. There is> evidence > that 6 months of breastfeeding is really the minimum needed,> and that > lifelong overall health increases steadily if you keep> breastfeeding the > child for up to 2 years. > > > > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a > lifetime > http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Thanks, I really do appreciate the encouragement. It seems that all of my friends think there is something magical about turning one, that you just have to stop. So, I don't get much support. In fact, I know a lot of people look down on me for it. I have one friend who will ask me every couple of months if I think maybe it is time to wean my son. It drives me crazy! I don't know why people can't see that it is good for him and not weird!!! By the way, does anyone know of a good support group for breastfeeding moms? As I was typing, I started to realize just how off topic this has gotten... Thanks, Dawn M Dawn, I think it's great you're doing that. Several of my friends> breastfed for years. The children slowly weaned themselves, even after> they were eating food they sometimes wanted the breast and then over> time they just decided when they didn't. I think it is very healthy in> all ways for mother and child. Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 On May 6, 2006, at 9:03 PM, Dawn Munn wrote: > By the way, does anyone know of a good support group for > breastfeeding moms? La Leche League is everywhere! <www.lalecheleague.org> Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Hi Sara, You know, I am sitting here thinking, duh! I don't know why I didn't think of that... Must be brain fog and mommy brain all tied into one :~) Thanks! -Dawn La Leche League is everywhere!> > <www.lalecheleague.org>> > Sara Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Dawn, Listen to Jill and do what you know is best for your son (and you). Perhaps your friends will learn something from your experience. Mel RE: Breastfeeding Thanks, I really do appreciate the encouragement. It seems that all of my friends think there is something magical about turning one, that you just have to stop. So, I don't get much support. In fact, I know a lot of people look down on me for it. I have one friend who will ask me every couple of months if I think maybe it is time to wean my son. It drives me crazy! I don't know why people can't see that it is good for him and not weird!!! By the way, does anyone know of a good support group for breastfeeding moms? As I was typing, I started to realize just how off topic this has gotten... Thanks, Dawn M Dawn, I think it's great you're doing that. Several of my friends> breastfed for years. The children slowly weaned themselves, even after> they were eating food they sometimes wanted the breast and then over> time they just decided when they didn't. I think it is very healthy in> all ways for mother and child. Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Hey Dawn, Good on you for continuing to give your baby first class nutrition! You're doing exactly what the WHO recommends. I don't know about you but being unwell with CFS myself I always felt I ought to be extra conscientious with my babies nutrition to (hopefully) minimise their chances of ever developing chronic illness. It seemed to be one thing I actually did have control over. I found LLL really good for support in person, but if you're looking for onlne support then ivillage.com might have a good discussion/support forum. They often seem to call it " extended breastfeeding " when you go past a year or so. Again, good for you! Anne. > > Hi Sara, > > You know, I am sitting here thinking, duh! I don't know why I didn't think of that... Must be brain fog and mommy brain all tied into one :~) Thanks! > > -Dawn > > > La Leche League is everywhere!> > <www.lalecheleague.org>> > Sara > > > > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime > http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 I couldn't agree more! Dawn, you are not the only one doing this - you just happen to be the only one in your circle. Keep it up - you know what 's best for your family! Not your neighbors, your friends, or even your parents. We're still nursing strong at 2 - never dreamed I'd still be nursing now, but hey - my daughter knows what she needs - and so do I. Keep following your instincts. They're good! _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Mel Baldwin Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 4:35 AM Subject: Re: Breastfeeding Dawn, Listen to Jill and do what you know is best for your son (and you). Perhaps your friends will learn something from your experience. Mel RE: Breastfeeding Thanks, I really do appreciate the encouragement. It seems that all of my friends think there is something magical about turning one, that you just have to stop. So, I don't get much support. In fact, I know a lot of people look down on me for it. I have one friend who will ask me every couple of months if I think maybe it is time to wean my son. It drives me crazy! I don't know why people can't see that it is good for him and not weird!!! By the way, does anyone know of a good support group for breastfeeding moms? As I was typing, I started to realize just how off topic this has gotten... Thanks, Dawn M Dawn, I think it's great you're doing that. Several of my friends> breastfed for years. The children slowly weaned themselves, even after> they were eating food they sometimes wanted the breast and then over> time they just decided when they didn't. I think it is very healthy in> all ways for mother and child. Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Anne, Good for you- I agree, any edge we can give our kids we need to. S _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of anne_likes_red Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 5:24 AM Subject: Re: Breastfeeding Hey Dawn, Good on you for continuing to give your baby first class nutrition! You're doing exactly what the WHO recommends. I don't know about you but being unwell with CFS myself I always felt I ought to be extra conscientious with my babies nutrition to (hopefully) minimise their chances of ever developing chronic illness. It seemed to be one thing I actually did have control over. I found LLL really good for support in person, but if you're looking for onlne support then ivillage.com might have a good discussion/support forum. They often seem to call it " extended breastfeeding " when you go past a year or so. Again, good for you! Anne. > > Hi Sara, > > You know, I am sitting here thinking, duh! I don't know why I didn't think of that... Must be brain fog and mommy brain all tied into one :~) Thanks! > > -Dawn > > > La Leche League is everywhere!> > <www.lalecheleague.org>> > Sara > > > > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime > http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Just wanted to say thanks to , Jill, Mel, Ann, and anyone else (forgive me if I have remembered your name wrong or misspelled it) for the breastfeeding encouragement. It was something I was really needing and it really helped to lift my spirits. My little guy thanks you too ;~) Dawn Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Dawn - I'm just glad to hear others are continuing also. Believe me, I need the vote of confidence too! Keep up the good work, Mama! On 5/8/06, Dawn Munn <dawnmunn@...> wrote: > > Just wanted to say thanks to , Jill, Mel, Ann, and anyone else > (forgive me if I have remembered your name wrong or misspelled it) for the > breastfeeding encouragement. It was something I was really needing and it > really helped to lift my spirits. My little guy thanks you too ;~) > > Dawn > > > > > Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a > lifetime > http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Just thinking back now...and I finally can think back with a smile ... I didn't have any problems breastfeeding my first baby (3.5 years old now), maybe some nipple soreness for the first couple of weeks, but certainly nothing to really complain about. But I tell you, my second baby left my nipples sore to the point they were cracked, fissured, bleeding profusely, scabbed, and unbelievably painful to the point that I could not face forward in the shower, let alone towel dry-off for 6 weeks! I thought my nipples would never heal. But they did, and here I am, my second baby is now 14 months old and we are still nursing strong Thank goodness they healed And thank goodness for meditative practices (which is the only thing that got me through the 3:00 am feedings with bleeding nipples and no pain relief to speak of). When dd2 was just weeks old I would literally start to sweat at the thought of nursing her (every two hours)! LOL, my breasts were that sore that I would forbid anyone from coming within arms reach while nursing, God forbid my baby would come unlatched...oh the agony of relatching!!! Funny now...not so much back then ~Chris >From: " Debbie S. " <Glasswitch@...> >Reply-Vaccinations ><Vaccinations > >Subject: breastfeeding >Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:07:23 -0400 > > > I just had to throw my 2 cents in here... I am one of the small >percentage that was not able to exclusively breastfeed due to low milk >supply. However, my daughter has grown beautifully on raw goat's milk with >breastfeeding as a supplement. She is almost 2 now and still has not >chosen >to wean (either the breast or the goat's milk). > I feel very strongly that those who take the time to make conscious >decisions about their children have no reason to feel guilty about any of >those decisions - even if they don't match anyone else's. Far too many >people have children without really taking the time to think about the >impact of their actions. > Everyone on this list obviously cares deeply for their children and >deserve to be applauded for that caring. > >Deb. S. > > > > I always wonder why people get so offended about breastfeeding. > > > Scientifically, there are very few women who cannot > > breastfeed, I read somewhere less than 3%... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 Hello, me again, sorry. I had a beautiful baby girl at the end of July. Her weight gain was fantastic in the first 8 weeks. Since then she has very little weight gain. I am fully breastfeeding. The gp started reducing my levothyroxine at 8 weeks from 75mcg to 50 and then to 25 as my TSH was falling and below the reference range - here are my results: TSH was 0.1 (ref 0.27 - 3.5 I think) on 50mcg of levothyroxine and FT4 18.6 (notsure of lower end but upper is 22). Before that I was on 75mcg and my TSH was at 0.2 but the goitre had not started to flare up again. During pregnancy I was over 1. So the reduction in levothyroxine seems to go with the slow weight gain of my daughter. Does anyone know please what the relation is between hypo and hashimoto and breastfeeding? I am seeing the endo a week on Friday but think I will have to take my baby to see the gp before Thank you Anja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Congratulations ont he birth of your daughter. I would be asking your doctor to go on your total results not just your TSH. I have hashi's and my TSH has been <0.01 pretty much ever since I started medication. My GP now ignores it totally (but needs reminding every so often that that's normal for me!) and goes on the T4 and T3 results to show the level of hormones on the blood to increase/decrease my meds. I would tell your GP you weren't over medicated as your T4 result was well within the range at the last test and ask to increase back to what it was. You can always make an agreement that if your T4 result goes over the reference range you will decrease. [i find that a helpful 'but if....then I will.. can help you get your own way...] Do you feel you are making enough milk? the reason I ask is that I too have hashi's and when my daughter was born, she was quite small and very hungry and I couldn't make enough milk to satify her after about 8 weeks and supplemented with formula, before fully switching to formula about a month later. She wanted to breastfeed all the time and I found it very tiring and the switch was right for me. I'm not advocating that for you, I just wanted to point it out as something that happened to me in similar circumstances. All the best Nadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi, I had hashimoto's (autoimmune thyroiditis) during my pregnancies, and after both my children were born attempted breastfeeding and I had problems with both of them, having to stop around 6 weeks due to supply issues. I had massive attacks on my thyroid at some point (probably post 8 weeks as that was when my thyroid levels were last checked as normal) and by 6 months out (around this time of year as my daughter was also born in a July) my TSH was screaming up and I ended up needing to be on double the dose of thyroxine I had been on (75mcg to 150mcg and then 150mcg to 225mcg after my second pregnancy). It was explained to me at the time that pregnancy suppresses the immune system, including those pesky autoimmune antibodies, but as the immune system kicks back in after pregnancy those autoimmune antibodies fire up too and it leads to an attack. You need sufficient thyroid medication to produce a good milk supply, so check that your levels are still ok (FT4 and not TSH) and also consult a lactation specialist who may suggest how to boost your supply too. Good luck with continuing breastfeeding - I wish I'd managed longer. Cat. > > Hello, > > me again, sorry. > I had a beautiful baby girl at the end of July. Her weight gain was fantastic in the first 8 weeks. Since then she has very little weight gain. > I am fully breastfeeding. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 This may, or may not, be relevant to you. I was having trouble breastfeeding my first son and had to start eating a lot more. Apart from 3 meals a day I added snacks of hot milk with an egg whisked in. This seemed to do the trick, but I was amazed I had to eat so much to breast feed successfully. I was probably hypothyroid then and have since discovered that means I didn't digest my food well. Miriam > I had a beautiful baby girl at the end of July. Her weight gain was fantastic in the first 8 weeks. Since then she has very little weight gain. > I am fully breastfeeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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