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I breastfed my daughter and yes we had a difficult start at first... then at

7 weeks she had to stop for 5 weeks due to surgeries and complications.... I

pumped during this time and then we started up again at 12 weeks and she

nursed successfully until about 15 months... it would have been longer but

fertility medicines really reduced my output... I am also on a breastfeeding

special needs list ... contact me if you want to check it out.... I found

with Vickie that she had to build up strength and yes it took a little while

but frequent and I mean hourly at the beginning and sometimes short sessions

built up her strength.... she was much better after her surgeries... not as

tired and sleepy.... how are you supplementing right now? maybe do not give

a bottle right after each attempt at the breast.... especially if you try

frequently... also I found that laying on my side on the bed with Vickie

right next to me was the most convienent method at first... also... if you

have a very heavy let down... you might want to put a diaper under the other

breast and let it leak out so that when you bring your little one to that

breast it is softer and not as strong of a stream....

Any other questions just give me a yell

Ann

Wife to Webb since 4/84

Mom to Webb since 1/91 (nda) and since 6/00 (d/s)

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When the doctor who diagnosed asked if I would be willing to extend

the breastfeeding, I looked at him and said, " I'll breastfeed him til he's

in college if it will help keep him well. " The doc, being unused to my

peculiar sense of humor, turned a bit pale......

I laugh at LaLeche League's idea of letting the child lead the weaning. I

tried that with my first and ended up tandem nursing...not a lot of fun.

The only way I got her to stop nursing was to promise that she could spend

the night at Mamaw's house when she was a big enough girl not to nurse for

2 full weeks. And I think (5 years) would STILL be nursing if I

hadn't cut him off when I found out I was pregnant.

8-)

Wenoka

At 04:14 PM 03/02/2002 EST, you wrote:

>When I was involved with LaLeche League, I adopted the concept of child led

>weaning. In other words Let the child wean him/herself. My toddlers

>basically nursed if they were not feeling well or if they were hurt and then

>usually before nap or bedtime. By the toddler age they were also drinking

>juice from cups and on full regular diets. I used the La Leche League Cook

>book " Whole foods for the Whole Family " . It had lots of recipes made for

>children with allergies.

>

> Prior to Mike's diagnosis my pediatrician believed in weaning after 12

>months of age and I used to tease the doctor that I was never going to stop

>nursing and that I planned on expressing milk into a thermos that Mike

could

>take to kindergarten. After Mike's diagnosis, this same pediatrician now

>advises his patient's moms to continue to nurse until either the child or

the

>mom wants to stop.

>

>Lynne

>

>

>This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a

Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the

sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional

advice.

>

>

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When the doctor who diagnosed asked if I would be willing to extend

the breastfeeding, I looked at him and said, " I'll breastfeed him til he's

in college if it will help keep him well. " The doc, being unused to my

peculiar sense of humor, turned a bit pale......

I laugh at LaLeche League's idea of letting the child lead the weaning. I

tried that with my first and ended up tandem nursing...not a lot of fun.

The only way I got her to stop nursing was to promise that she could spend

the night at Mamaw's house when she was a big enough girl not to nurse for

2 full weeks. And I think (5 years) would STILL be nursing if I

hadn't cut him off when I found out I was pregnant.

8-)

Wenoka

At 04:14 PM 03/02/2002 EST, you wrote:

>When I was involved with LaLeche League, I adopted the concept of child led

>weaning. In other words Let the child wean him/herself. My toddlers

>basically nursed if they were not feeling well or if they were hurt and then

>usually before nap or bedtime. By the toddler age they were also drinking

>juice from cups and on full regular diets. I used the La Leche League Cook

>book " Whole foods for the Whole Family " . It had lots of recipes made for

>children with allergies.

>

> Prior to Mike's diagnosis my pediatrician believed in weaning after 12

>months of age and I used to tease the doctor that I was never going to stop

>nursing and that I planned on expressing milk into a thermos that Mike

could

>take to kindergarten. After Mike's diagnosis, this same pediatrician now

>advises his patient's moms to continue to nurse until either the child or

the

>mom wants to stop.

>

>Lynne

>

>

>This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a

Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the

sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional

advice.

>

>

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Wenoka,

At the risk of sounding REALLY stupid, I have a quick question for

you.... you wrote:

> I laugh at LaLeche League's idea of letting the child lead the weaning. I

> tried that with my first and ended up tandem nursing...not a lot of fun.

> The only way I got her to stop nursing was to promise that she could spend

> the night at Mamaw's house when she was a big enough girl not to nurse for

> 2 full weeks.

What's tandem nursing?

(sorry... I know I probably should know what you're talking about, but I

don't, and I'm curious!)

I must say, I have great respect for people who nurse their children for

long periods of time.... This will likely (hopefully, anyway!!) change

if/when I have children of my own, but I think I'm too selfish to be the

only person capable of feeding my child all the time -- I'd want someone

else to get up in the middle of the night at times, too! And then

having to pump throughout the day while at work or while my child is at

day care or preschool or at a friend's house or something.... I don't

think I could do that all the time...... I know I must sound terrible!

(though, if you knew how many minutes to hours a day I have to dedicate

just toward my own illness-related treatments and preventative stuff,

you'd know I barely have enough time to take care of myself and have a

semi-normal life.... so the idea of having to take another 2 hours a day

to pump or something -- on top of everything else that goes into caring

for a child, whether or not I keep working, is simply overwhelming to

me!). To be perfectly honest, it will almost certainly never be an

issue, because I have to take enough meds to keep myself alive (and/or

comfortable), that I doubt I will ever try to give birth, because of the

risks to myself and an unborn child (for example, if I got pregnant, I'd

have to stop taking my seizure meds [assoc'ed w/high rate of birth

defects], but that would be dangerous to both baby and I, as would going

w/o the powerful abx and antifungals I need, etc, etc) ..... fortunately

my fiance is as thrilled with the idea of adopting as I am.

Sorry -- long digression there....... Anyway, I just thought I'd ask

about the phrase, and let you know that I think you and the other moms

here in this group (and those few dads hanging around -- Hi Quentin!)

are so amazing --- many parents wouldn't be able to put their needs or

preferences above those of their children for so long, and I firmly

believe that a lot of you (at least) have given your children a better

start at a healthy life, and (in many cases) likely saved your

children's lives, through breastfeeding that long. That's just one

action among many that make every single person in this group an amazing

parent. Your children are REALLY lucky!!

Take care,

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Wenoka,

At the risk of sounding REALLY stupid, I have a quick question for

you.... you wrote:

> I laugh at LaLeche League's idea of letting the child lead the weaning. I

> tried that with my first and ended up tandem nursing...not a lot of fun.

> The only way I got her to stop nursing was to promise that she could spend

> the night at Mamaw's house when she was a big enough girl not to nurse for

> 2 full weeks.

What's tandem nursing?

(sorry... I know I probably should know what you're talking about, but I

don't, and I'm curious!)

I must say, I have great respect for people who nurse their children for

long periods of time.... This will likely (hopefully, anyway!!) change

if/when I have children of my own, but I think I'm too selfish to be the

only person capable of feeding my child all the time -- I'd want someone

else to get up in the middle of the night at times, too! And then

having to pump throughout the day while at work or while my child is at

day care or preschool or at a friend's house or something.... I don't

think I could do that all the time...... I know I must sound terrible!

(though, if you knew how many minutes to hours a day I have to dedicate

just toward my own illness-related treatments and preventative stuff,

you'd know I barely have enough time to take care of myself and have a

semi-normal life.... so the idea of having to take another 2 hours a day

to pump or something -- on top of everything else that goes into caring

for a child, whether or not I keep working, is simply overwhelming to

me!). To be perfectly honest, it will almost certainly never be an

issue, because I have to take enough meds to keep myself alive (and/or

comfortable), that I doubt I will ever try to give birth, because of the

risks to myself and an unborn child (for example, if I got pregnant, I'd

have to stop taking my seizure meds [assoc'ed w/high rate of birth

defects], but that would be dangerous to both baby and I, as would going

w/o the powerful abx and antifungals I need, etc, etc) ..... fortunately

my fiance is as thrilled with the idea of adopting as I am.

Sorry -- long digression there....... Anyway, I just thought I'd ask

about the phrase, and let you know that I think you and the other moms

here in this group (and those few dads hanging around -- Hi Quentin!)

are so amazing --- many parents wouldn't be able to put their needs or

preferences above those of their children for so long, and I firmly

believe that a lot of you (at least) have given your children a better

start at a healthy life, and (in many cases) likely saved your

children's lives, through breastfeeding that long. That's just one

action among many that make every single person in this group an amazing

parent. Your children are REALLY lucky!!

Take care,

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I had problems breastfeeding Myah, but it was my parts-nothing to do with

Myah. I met with a lactation consultant. She gave me a sheild to wear over

my nipple that resembled a bottle nipple and she was latched on in a minute.

I didn't stick with that long though, maybe a few days. I had so much milk,

I was pumping 8-9 ounces from each breast 4 times a day. Well, obviously

she couldn't drink it all, so I froze it. My point is that even if you

can't breastfeed from the breast, the milk is still extremely beneficial

from the bottle. It's the same thing just different way of getting it

there. Don't feel like you HAVE to breastfeed. And, even though I didn't

feed from the breast, I still had problems letting go when I decided to quit

so there must have still been the emotional attachment.

Hope this helps,

, mom to Myah 14mo

PS-I was able to feed her for a month and a half on my frozen stock!!haha

Re: breastfeeding

> In a message dated 3/4/02 8:19:13 AM Central Standard Time,

> circles@... writes:

>

>

> >

> >

> > > Just wondered what kind of experiences others have had w/

> > > breastfeeding. My daughter is 2 monthes old & I have thus far been

> > > unable to get her to the breast. She just cant seem to stay latched

> > > on more than a few seconds. I really want her to have the benefits

> > > of breastmilk and have been pumping & feeding her that way but it is

> > > really difficult physically & emotionally. Attempts at latching on

> > > are improving as she gets older so I'm still hoping. She is having

> > > an evaluation w/ a ST soon, I hope they can help. I would like to

> > > hear others experiences with bf.

> > >

> >

> This isn't just a ds problem. My non-ds infant was unable to latch on and

> stay there. There can be several reasons. Have you tried a consult with a

> lactation consultant? For us that confirmed that the issue was his and not

a

> positioning or " technique " issue.

> When drank from a bottle he didn't develop a rhythm and was very

noisy.

> A speech therapist (seemed a bit silly at 3 months) worked with him and

gave

> us some exercises to do. We also did a swallow study before the speech

> therapist decided on a path of treatment so they could see how he was

doing.

> (didn't want to strenghten the suck if he was aspirating).

> Anyway, I pumped and fed with a bottle. If you aren't using a hosp. grade

> pump get one. It is soo much better.

> Anyway, never got the nack of it but the therapy and growing helped

and

> his sucking got more organized and he did just fine starting solids and

doing

> everything else.

> The speech therapist usually be a huge help by looking at his eating with

a

> bottle and going from there. If they aren't then look for a new therapist.

> Some people really know their babies, others are better with older kids.

>

> If you have any questions about therapy for exercises feel free to ask.

>

> Karyn

>

>

>

>

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Phew Kimberley, it really is not that hard. I have found

breastfeeding so easy. I was too lazy to even entertain the idea of

bottle feeding. I did have to use the pump for several weeks when my

baby was very ill but the persistance paid off.

I wish you all the best with the adoption process, a friend of mine

recently adopted a six month old baby and it made her and her husband

so happy...Take care

>

> > I laugh at LaLeche League's idea of letting the child lead the

weaning. I

> > tried that with my first and ended up tandem nursing...not a lot

of fun.

> > The only way I got her to stop nursing was to promise that she

could spend

> > the night at Mamaw's house when she was a big enough girl not to

nurse for

> > 2 full weeks.

>

> What's tandem nursing?

> (sorry... I know I probably should know what you're talking about,

but I

> don't, and I'm curious!)

>

> I must say, I have great respect for people who nurse their

children for

> long periods of time.... This will likely (hopefully, anyway!!)

change

> if/when I have children of my own, but I think I'm too selfish to

be the

> only person capable of feeding my child all the time -- I'd want

someone

> else to get up in the middle of the night at times, too! And then

> having to pump throughout the day while at work or while my child

is at

> day care or preschool or at a friend's house or something.... I

don't

> think I could do that all the time...... I know I must sound

terrible!

> (though, if you knew how many minutes to hours a day I have to

dedicate

> just toward my own illness-related treatments and preventative

stuff,

> you'd know I barely have enough time to take care of myself and

have a

> semi-normal life.... so the idea of having to take another 2 hours

a day

> to pump or something -- on top of everything else that goes into

caring

> for a child, whether or not I keep working, is simply overwhelming

to

> me!). To be perfectly honest, it will almost certainly never be an

> issue, because I have to take enough meds to keep myself alive

(and/or

> comfortable), that I doubt I will ever try to give birth, because

of the

> risks to myself and an unborn child (for example, if I got

pregnant, I'd

> have to stop taking my seizure meds [assoc'ed w/high rate of birth

> defects], but that would be dangerous to both baby and I, as would

going

> w/o the powerful abx and antifungals I need, etc, etc) .....

fortunately

> my fiance is as thrilled with the idea of adopting as I am.

>

> Sorry -- long digression there....... Anyway, I just thought I'd

ask

> about the phrase, and let you know that I think you and the other

moms

> here in this group (and those few dads hanging around -- Hi

Quentin!)

> are so amazing --- many parents wouldn't be able to put their needs

or

> preferences above those of their children for so long, and I firmly

> believe that a lot of you (at least) have given your children a

better

> start at a healthy life, and (in many cases) likely saved your

> children's lives, through breastfeeding that long. That's just one

> action among many that make every single person in this group an

amazing

> parent. Your children are REALLY lucky!!

>

> Take care,

>

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Phew Kimberley, it really is not that hard. I have found

breastfeeding so easy. I was too lazy to even entertain the idea of

bottle feeding. I did have to use the pump for several weeks when my

baby was very ill but the persistance paid off.

I wish you all the best with the adoption process, a friend of mine

recently adopted a six month old baby and it made her and her husband

so happy...Take care

>

> > I laugh at LaLeche League's idea of letting the child lead the

weaning. I

> > tried that with my first and ended up tandem nursing...not a lot

of fun.

> > The only way I got her to stop nursing was to promise that she

could spend

> > the night at Mamaw's house when she was a big enough girl not to

nurse for

> > 2 full weeks.

>

> What's tandem nursing?

> (sorry... I know I probably should know what you're talking about,

but I

> don't, and I'm curious!)

>

> I must say, I have great respect for people who nurse their

children for

> long periods of time.... This will likely (hopefully, anyway!!)

change

> if/when I have children of my own, but I think I'm too selfish to

be the

> only person capable of feeding my child all the time -- I'd want

someone

> else to get up in the middle of the night at times, too! And then

> having to pump throughout the day while at work or while my child

is at

> day care or preschool or at a friend's house or something.... I

don't

> think I could do that all the time...... I know I must sound

terrible!

> (though, if you knew how many minutes to hours a day I have to

dedicate

> just toward my own illness-related treatments and preventative

stuff,

> you'd know I barely have enough time to take care of myself and

have a

> semi-normal life.... so the idea of having to take another 2 hours

a day

> to pump or something -- on top of everything else that goes into

caring

> for a child, whether or not I keep working, is simply overwhelming

to

> me!). To be perfectly honest, it will almost certainly never be an

> issue, because I have to take enough meds to keep myself alive

(and/or

> comfortable), that I doubt I will ever try to give birth, because

of the

> risks to myself and an unborn child (for example, if I got

pregnant, I'd

> have to stop taking my seizure meds [assoc'ed w/high rate of birth

> defects], but that would be dangerous to both baby and I, as would

going

> w/o the powerful abx and antifungals I need, etc, etc) .....

fortunately

> my fiance is as thrilled with the idea of adopting as I am.

>

> Sorry -- long digression there....... Anyway, I just thought I'd

ask

> about the phrase, and let you know that I think you and the other

moms

> here in this group (and those few dads hanging around -- Hi

Quentin!)

> are so amazing --- many parents wouldn't be able to put their needs

or

> preferences above those of their children for so long, and I firmly

> believe that a lot of you (at least) have given your children a

better

> start at a healthy life, and (in many cases) likely saved your

> children's lives, through breastfeeding that long. That's just one

> action among many that make every single person in this group an

amazing

> parent. Your children are REALLY lucky!!

>

> Take care,

>

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The only stupid question is the one not asked......

Tandem nursing is nursing two or more babies. Pretty uncommon in the

States unless the mom has had multiple births. However, the lactation

nurse mentioned to me that in other countries they often have an average of

giving birth every two years or so, but the age of weaning is as late as 4

or 5. She said, " You do the math. "

Nursing is so much simpler than bottle feeding. I never realized how easy

I had it til this fall when I started caring for an infant for a friend

while she is at work. With breastfeeding I didn't have to worry about

carrying a bottle around with me, washing the bottles, mixing the formula,

making sure the temp was just right. Plus at night I could just feed her

then roll over and go back to sleep. Saved a ton of money too. The only

inconvenience is finding a place to nurse out in public. A lot of places

just don't think about the fact that women with babies may need a private

place to sit and feed them.

My daughter actually started to wean herself naturally several times, but

each time she seemed to be losing interest, some major change would happen

in her life (her daddy started trucking, we moved into a new house, etc.)

and she would revert back to nursing like a newborn (okay, and I should

mention here that the little stinker didn't let go for almost 24 hours

straight when she was born. She was almost 10 lbs and was simply not

satisfied.) Then I got pregnant......La Leche said I would probably dry up

and so she'd naturally lose interest. I never completely dried up, and

although she seemed to lose interest during the first few months of the

pregnancy, she started seeing all of the baby magazines showing the baby

nursing and realized that the newcomer was fixen' to take her spot, so the

last couple of months of pregnancy, she started nursing a lot. Which is

not really recommended as that kind of nipple stimulation can bring on

early contractions.....as it was, we practically had to evict with a

crowbar. (And here I must add that is 5 years old now, not when I

weaned him.) So when came out, I had the choice of my daughter

hating and despising him forever, or letting her nurse also. When she came

into the hospital room, the first thing she wanted to do after meeting

was to nurse, so I became a tandem nurser. Exhausting, wouldn't

recommend it to anyone if it can be avoided, but it was the right choice to

make for my situation. I have a daughter who adores her little brother

(when he's not being the typical pesky brother) and they have a special bond.

And with the next pregnancy (the 39th birthday surprise), was weaned

the same day that I found out I was pregnant. I was not about the repeat

the tandem nursing experience. There were some sweet moments when they

would play with each other's little hands, but it is physically demanding

and exhausting.

I always encourage people who are healthy to breastfeed, but if the mom

can't because of health concerns then it is best for both mom and baby not

to even try. What good is it to feed a baby and then have no energy to be

a mom the rest of the time? Or worse, get so run down that she becomes

susceptible to infection? Wet nurses (women who are lactating and willing

to nurse other children) are hard to find, but if a mom couldn't breastfeed

themselves and really wanted that for their baby, there are women out there

who do it. Also, if you ever did have a baby, even nursing a day or two

before the milk actually comes in, the baby will get some colostrum which

will give it a boost for the first couple of weeks anyway, if not longer,

and would probably not pose a health threat to the mom. But once milk came

in, I would definitely get the docs opinion.

One of the really nice things about bottle feeding is that it gives the dad

a chance to form a closer bond. I had a friend who would pump her milk so

that her hubby could give feedings too, but then, her children all had

problems nursing, so she pumped for them all of the time anyway. Didn't

seem to bother her to pump, but I never cared for it. (And then there was

the woman at the office who had just returned to work after having her baby

and kept the milk she pumped in the refrigerator. One of the brokers came

in and said, " We're out of coffee creamer, but I found some milk in the

refrig. " We managed not to laugh until he was out of ear shot. 8-)

I think that I'm the one who is lucky. My children never cease to amaze me

with their sweetness and kindheartedness. They literally fight over who

gets to be mom's helper for the day. Even the baby is starting to " help "

mommy by picking up things (that usually should stay where they're at).

Well, I've rambled on enough. Better get to bed.

God bless,

Wenoka

At 12:09 AM 03/06/2002 -0600, you wrote:

>Wenoka,

>

>At the risk of sounding REALLY stupid, I have a quick question for

>you.... you wrote:

>

>> I laugh at LaLeche League's idea of letting the child lead the weaning. I

>> tried that with my first and ended up tandem nursing...not a lot of fun.

>> The only way I got her to stop nursing was to promise that she could spend

>> the night at Mamaw's house when she was a big enough girl not to nurse for

>> 2 full weeks.

>

>What's tandem nursing?

>(sorry... I know I probably should know what you're talking about, but I

>don't, and I'm curious!)

>

>I must say, I have great respect for people who nurse their children for

>long periods of time.... This will likely (hopefully, anyway!!) change

>if/when I have children of my own, but I think I'm too selfish to be the

>only person capable of feeding my child all the time -- I'd want someone

>else to get up in the middle of the night at times, too! And then

>having to pump throughout the day while at work or while my child is at

>day care or preschool or at a friend's house or something.... I don't

>think I could do that all the time...... I know I must sound terrible!

>(though, if you knew how many minutes to hours a day I have to dedicate

>just toward my own illness-related treatments and preventative stuff,

>you'd know I barely have enough time to take care of myself and have a

>semi-normal life.... so the idea of having to take another 2 hours a day

>to pump or something -- on top of everything else that goes into caring

>for a child, whether or not I keep working, is simply overwhelming to

>me!). To be perfectly honest, it will almost certainly never be an

>issue, because I have to take enough meds to keep myself alive (and/or

>comfortable), that I doubt I will ever try to give birth, because of the

>risks to myself and an unborn child (for example, if I got pregnant, I'd

>have to stop taking my seizure meds [assoc'ed w/high rate of birth

>defects], but that would be dangerous to both baby and I, as would going

>w/o the powerful abx and antifungals I need, etc, etc) ..... fortunately

>my fiance is as thrilled with the idea of adopting as I am.

>

>Sorry -- long digression there....... Anyway, I just thought I'd ask

>about the phrase, and let you know that I think you and the other moms

>here in this group (and those few dads hanging around -- Hi Quentin!)

>are so amazing --- many parents wouldn't be able to put their needs or

>preferences above those of their children for so long, and I firmly

>believe that a lot of you (at least) have given your children a better

>start at a healthy life, and (in many cases) likely saved your

>children's lives, through breastfeeding that long. That's just one

>action among many that make every single person in this group an amazing

>parent. Your children are REALLY lucky!!

>

>Take care,

>

>

>This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a

Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the

sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional

advice.

>

>

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What a wonderful Post!!!!! You had me smiling.

> >

> >> I laugh at LaLeche League's idea of letting the child lead the

weaning. I

> >> tried that with my first and ended up tandem nursing...not a lot

of fun.

> >> The only way I got her to stop nursing was to promise that she

could spend

> >> the night at Mamaw's house when she was a big enough girl not to

nurse for

> >> 2 full weeks.

> >

> >What's tandem nursing?

> >(sorry... I know I probably should know what you're talking about,

but I

> >don't, and I'm curious!)

> >

> >I must say, I have great respect for people who nurse their

children for

> >long periods of time.... This will likely (hopefully, anyway!!)

change

> >if/when I have children of my own, but I think I'm too selfish to

be the

> >only person capable of feeding my child all the time -- I'd want

someone

> >else to get up in the middle of the night at times, too! And then

> >having to pump throughout the day while at work or while my child

is at

> >day care or preschool or at a friend's house or something.... I

don't

> >think I could do that all the time...... I know I must sound

terrible!

> >(though, if you knew how many minutes to hours a day I have to

dedicate

> >just toward my own illness-related treatments and preventative

stuff,

> >you'd know I barely have enough time to take care of myself and

have a

> >semi-normal life.... so the idea of having to take another 2 hours

a day

> >to pump or something -- on top of everything else that goes into

caring

> >for a child, whether or not I keep working, is simply overwhelming

to

> >me!). To be perfectly honest, it will almost certainly never be an

> >issue, because I have to take enough meds to keep myself alive

(and/or

> >comfortable), that I doubt I will ever try to give birth, because

of the

> >risks to myself and an unborn child (for example, if I got

pregnant, I'd

> >have to stop taking my seizure meds [assoc'ed w/high rate of birth

> >defects], but that would be dangerous to both baby and I, as would

going

> >w/o the powerful abx and antifungals I need, etc, etc) .....

fortunately

> >my fiance is as thrilled with the idea of adopting as I am.

> >

> >Sorry -- long digression there....... Anyway, I just thought I'd

ask

> >about the phrase, and let you know that I think you and the other

moms

> >here in this group (and those few dads hanging around -- Hi

Quentin!)

> >are so amazing --- many parents wouldn't be able to put their

needs or

> >preferences above those of their children for so long, and I firmly

> >believe that a lot of you (at least) have given your children a

better

> >start at a healthy life, and (in many cases) likely saved your

> >children's lives, through breastfeeding that long. That's just

one

> >action among many that make every single person in this group an

amazing

> >parent. Your children are REALLY lucky!!

> >

> >Take care,

> >

> >

> >This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed

with a

> Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here

are the

> sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as

professional

> advice.

> >

> >

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Wenoka,

Thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge and

experience on breastfeeding (you, too, Dale!) :-) Soooo much good

info and advice in this group! And thanks for the " visuals " ----

whether I was imagining you potentially having to " pry off with a

crowbar, " or envisioning the lovely description of your children

holding hands while nursing, I was smiling throughout your message!

If my health weren't an issue in this, you'd at least have me

considering it as a viable option. and that's a lot more than I could

say a week ago! Obviously, there's lots of time before I need to

consider anything, anyway, but I just wanted you to know that I really

do appreciate your candor and shared experience.

Thanks! Take care,

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it's been a long time since I've read my Peds. PID letters.

My husband never ran out of ways to bond with our little ones even though he

could not feed them with a bottle. After I nursed the babies he would rock

them in the rocker or give them their baths, sometimes he would just play

with them, and because they weren't hungry anymore they were usually in good

moods. There are lots of things dads can. The other nice thing about

nursing is we were able to travel and not have to worry about sterilizing

bottles and keeping the formula fresh, we even went camping a couple of times.

Take care everyone,

Lynne

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it's been a long time since I've read my Peds. PID letters.

My husband never ran out of ways to bond with our little ones even though he

could not feed them with a bottle. After I nursed the babies he would rock

them in the rocker or give them their baths, sometimes he would just play

with them, and because they weren't hungry anymore they were usually in good

moods. There are lots of things dads can. The other nice thing about

nursing is we were able to travel and not have to worry about sterilizing

bottles and keeping the formula fresh, we even went camping a couple of times.

Take care everyone,

Lynne

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Hey, and Becky, there are a lot of us out here nursing beyond the

" usual " one year, so hang in there. Personally, I've found the benefits to

nursing a toddler *well outweigh* the things that might encourage me to

wean.

Also, if this is your last baby, remember that it won't last forever and

before you know it, it will be over. Never to happen again. :(

My youngest just weaned, and I miss it already. And this is after nursing

eight kids, each for over a year, some well over a year...

Also, , while we absolutely LOVE hearing about Gizmo and his

antics, everytime my 19 yo dd hears more about your serval she asks when we

can get one!!!

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Ahh, sorry about that....tell her they are trouble and loads of it,

seriously, I have about a half hour of clean up time because Jeff locked him in

the bathroom when he went to Karate because he thought he was going to puke. He

didn't, he just tore through EVERYTHING!!!!

Thanks for the advice on the nursing, I know someday I will cry because there

are no fingerprints on mirrors, smears on doors or pounds of meal droppings left

on the kitchen floor.

C

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> Oh, good, grief. You should breastfeed for as long as you can. My

> personal minumum is age two. I have never heard of that advice -

to

> not nurse (rolls eyes). In fact, the pediatrician I had on my

second

> son agreed to delayed/partial vaccination BECAUSE I nursed. My

third

> child never even got the Vitamin K shot, so I have come a long

way.

> Keep shopping til you find a doctor/hospital that is going to

respect

> your wishes. I finally gave birth at home with an MD to get my

> wishes met.

>

>

Their reasoning was that because i was refusing the baby's vax and

refused to answer their questions on my vax history, how did they

know (without running tests which required consent)that i wasn't

carrying something that i could pass on to my child, they said for

all they knew i could be an iv drug user or something of that nature,

this was ofcourse the Dept of Human Services worker not the hospital

themselves, however the hospital felt compelled to contact DHS

because of my refusal to vax! Nevertheless, he has since been vax

free and in perfect health, for that we are grateful!

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, I still think their reasoning doesn't hold much weight. Even

the newest stuff on women with AIDS says for them to nurse their

babies. Oh, well. I'm glad you were smarter than that, and I am

sorry your birth experience had to be that awful.

> > Oh, good, grief. You should breastfeed for as long as you can.

My

> > personal minumum is age two. I have never heard of that advice -

> to

> > not nurse (rolls eyes). In fact, the pediatrician I had on my

> second

> > son agreed to delayed/partial vaccination BECAUSE I nursed. My

> third

> > child never even got the Vitamin K shot, so I have come a long

> way.

> > Keep shopping til you find a doctor/hospital that is going to

> respect

> > your wishes. I finally gave birth at home with an MD to get my

> > wishes met.

> >

> >

>

> Their reasoning was that because i was refusing the baby's vax and

> refused to answer their questions on my vax history, how did they

> know (without running tests which required consent)that i wasn't

> carrying something that i could pass on to my child, they said for

> all they knew i could be an iv drug user or something of that

nature,

> this was ofcourse the Dept of Human Services worker not the

hospital

> themselves, however the hospital felt compelled to contact DHS

> because of my refusal to vax! Nevertheless, he has since been vax

> free and in perfect health, for that we are grateful!

>

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Hi,

I couldn't handle the pain aspect of breastfeeding so I got a breast

pump and that dealt with it. It's a great second best solution. I just

dreaded breastfeeding from the pain, found myself avoiding and delaying,

was not the warm, fuzzy experience it was supposed to be. Really good

breast pumps can be rented from hospitals (I had a friend who had

premature babies and also had to do this for a different reason). Just

don't use the microwave for reheating refrigerated milk. Ask your

friend if this would be a workable solution for her.

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:19:12 -0700

From: " gypsy rose " <gypsy___rose@...>

Subject: RE: Baby Formula

Thank you for the responses. I am forwarding them all to her in hopes of

changing her mind before it is too late. I don't think her milk has dried

up yet, but it will soon.

Thanks again,

GypsyRose

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In a message dated 02/05/2006 15:22:26 GMT Daylight Time, a.morrison@... writes:

I would really value your opinions on whether or not I should breast feed my new baby given that I have a fair number of amalgam fillings in my mouth.? Ideally I would have had these fillings removed before falling pregnant but as usual life does not always go to plan!

>>>Congratualtions ! Andy Cutler always says that benefits of breat feeding outweigh the negatives of toxicity.

Mandi in Dorst

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In a message dated 02/05/2006 15:22:26 GMT Daylight Time, a.morrison@... writes:

I would really value your opinions on whether or not I should breast feed my new baby given that I have a fair number of amalgam fillings in my mouth.? Ideally I would have had these fillings removed before falling pregnant but as usual life does not always go to plan!

>>>Congratualtions ! Andy Cutler always says that benefits of breat feeding outweigh the negatives of toxicity.

Mandi in Dorst

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Alison, I'll be very interested to hear any answers to this too!! my uninformed opinion is that having dental treatment and therefore disturbing the amalgam would be the problem but that really is uninformed!!!!! I just find it so sad to think that for any reason formula could be better than the breast. I had to stop breastfeeding Jay (at two and a half years old) after implementing the gfcf diet and the thought that I had been damaging his gut all that time when I thought I was doing the best thing is awful, I'll be watching out for any advice with interest, would love to get my amalgams removed too, but there's always somewhere else you need to put the money isn't there, a friend and I were laughing how I was quite relieved in a way a few years back when I had to get a bridge as that got rid of a few for me!!!!!!!!!, take care, JosieOn 2 May 2006, at 14:19, Alison on wrote:Hi everyone.  I have been a member of this group for some time but haven't actually posted before.  I have little boy aged six and a half with mild to moderate autism.  We have implemented biomedical treatments with him since diagnosis at age two and a half and he is a much improved little boy as a result.  We also have a NT girl age four and I am expecting baby number three in July. I would really value your opinions on whether or not I should breast feed my new baby given that I have a fair number of amalgam fillings in my mouth.?  Ideally I would have had these fillings removed before falling pregnant but as usual life does not always go to plan! If breast feeding is not such a good idea, do you have any recommendations on formula? Finally any comments on whether or not to give the vitamin K injection/oral drops?  My daughter is not vaccinated and we will not be vaccinating this child. Many thanks fro all your help and comments. AlisonDISCLAIMERNo information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

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Alison, I'll be very interested to hear any answers to this too!! my uninformed opinion is that having dental treatment and therefore disturbing the amalgam would be the problem but that really is uninformed!!!!! I just find it so sad to think that for any reason formula could be better than the breast. I had to stop breastfeeding Jay (at two and a half years old) after implementing the gfcf diet and the thought that I had been damaging his gut all that time when I thought I was doing the best thing is awful, I'll be watching out for any advice with interest, would love to get my amalgams removed too, but there's always somewhere else you need to put the money isn't there, a friend and I were laughing how I was quite relieved in a way a few years back when I had to get a bridge as that got rid of a few for me!!!!!!!!!, take care, JosieOn 2 May 2006, at 14:19, Alison on wrote:Hi everyone.  I have been a member of this group for some time but haven't actually posted before.  I have little boy aged six and a half with mild to moderate autism.  We have implemented biomedical treatments with him since diagnosis at age two and a half and he is a much improved little boy as a result.  We also have a NT girl age four and I am expecting baby number three in July. I would really value your opinions on whether or not I should breast feed my new baby given that I have a fair number of amalgam fillings in my mouth.?  Ideally I would have had these fillings removed before falling pregnant but as usual life does not always go to plan! If breast feeding is not such a good idea, do you have any recommendations on formula? Finally any comments on whether or not to give the vitamin K injection/oral drops?  My daughter is not vaccinated and we will not be vaccinating this child. Many thanks fro all your help and comments. AlisonDISCLAIMERNo information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

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Hg is poisoning by making your immune system more vulnerable, for

chronic infections,

so if not doing the vaccination,

breast feeding have lots of advantages - I would go for that.

To combat your Hg in the milk,

you should take alt least 2 g Vit C, + Selen + perhaps lots of garlic,

and / or Authia cream ??,

at least if your own hair analysis says you have too much mercury in the

hair.

Geir Flatabø

peter standley skrev:

> Alison, I'll be very interested to hear any answers to this too!! my

> uninformed opinion is that having dental treatment and therefore

> disturbing the amalgam would be the problem but that really is

> uninformed!!!!! I just find it so sad to think that for any reason

> formula could be better than the breast. I had to stop breastfeeding

> Jay (at two and a half years old) after implementing the gfcf diet and

> the thought that I had been damaging his gut all that time when I

> thought I was doing the best thing is awful, I'll be watching out for

> any advice with interest, would love to get my amalgams removed too,

> but there's always somewhere else you need to put the money isn't

> there, a friend and I were laughing how I was quite relieved in a way

> a few years back when I had to get a bridge as that got rid of a few

> for me!!!!!!!!!, take care, Josie

> On 2 May 2006, at 14:19, Alison on wrote:

>

>> Hi everyone. I have been a member of this group for some time but

>> haven't actually posted before. I have little boy aged six and a

>> half with mild to moderate autism. We have implemented biomedical

>> treatments with him since diagnosis at age two and a half and he is a

>> much improved little boy as a result. We also have a NT girl age

>> four and I am expecting baby number three in July.

>>

>> I would really value your opinions on whether or not I should breast

>> feed my new baby given that I have a fair number of amalgam fillings

>> in my mouth.? Ideally I would have had these fillings removed before

>> falling pregnant but as usual life does not always go to plan!

>>

>> If breast feeding is not such a good idea, do you have any

>> recommendations on formula?

>>

>> Finally any comments on whether or not to give the vitamin K

>> injection/oral drops? My daughter is not vaccinated and we will not

>> be vaccinating this child.

>>

>> Many thanks fro all your help and comments.

>>

>> Alison

>>

>>

>> DISCLAIMER

>> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

>> advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

>> qualified practitioner.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Hg is poisoning by making your immune system more vulnerable, for

chronic infections,

so if not doing the vaccination,

breast feeding have lots of advantages - I would go for that.

To combat your Hg in the milk,

you should take alt least 2 g Vit C, + Selen + perhaps lots of garlic,

and / or Authia cream ??,

at least if your own hair analysis says you have too much mercury in the

hair.

Geir Flatabø

peter standley skrev:

> Alison, I'll be very interested to hear any answers to this too!! my

> uninformed opinion is that having dental treatment and therefore

> disturbing the amalgam would be the problem but that really is

> uninformed!!!!! I just find it so sad to think that for any reason

> formula could be better than the breast. I had to stop breastfeeding

> Jay (at two and a half years old) after implementing the gfcf diet and

> the thought that I had been damaging his gut all that time when I

> thought I was doing the best thing is awful, I'll be watching out for

> any advice with interest, would love to get my amalgams removed too,

> but there's always somewhere else you need to put the money isn't

> there, a friend and I were laughing how I was quite relieved in a way

> a few years back when I had to get a bridge as that got rid of a few

> for me!!!!!!!!!, take care, Josie

> On 2 May 2006, at 14:19, Alison on wrote:

>

>> Hi everyone. I have been a member of this group for some time but

>> haven't actually posted before. I have little boy aged six and a

>> half with mild to moderate autism. We have implemented biomedical

>> treatments with him since diagnosis at age two and a half and he is a

>> much improved little boy as a result. We also have a NT girl age

>> four and I am expecting baby number three in July.

>>

>> I would really value your opinions on whether or not I should breast

>> feed my new baby given that I have a fair number of amalgam fillings

>> in my mouth.? Ideally I would have had these fillings removed before

>> falling pregnant but as usual life does not always go to plan!

>>

>> If breast feeding is not such a good idea, do you have any

>> recommendations on formula?

>>

>> Finally any comments on whether or not to give the vitamin K

>> injection/oral drops? My daughter is not vaccinated and we will not

>> be vaccinating this child.

>>

>> Many thanks fro all your help and comments.

>>

>> Alison

>>

>>

>> DISCLAIMER

>> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

>> advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

>> qualified practitioner.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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