depression

[Guest guest]

YOU ARE VERY VERY BAD!!

[Guest guest]

Bill it is just depressing to all of us tht don't have your wit and charm and

humor. You are to quick for us.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Bill it is just depressing to all of us tht don't have your wit and charm and

humor. You are to quick for us.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Sue Owens

> Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'.

Sue:

They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.

Bill

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Sue Owens

> Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'.

Sue:

They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.

Bill

[Guest guest]

i think you guys have lost your marbles today. keep up the good work and lose a couple more. i for one am roaring with laughter.

bob in pa

-- Re: Depression

----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Owens > Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'. ;)Sue:They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.BillPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

i think you guys have lost your marbles today. keep up the good work and lose a couple more. i for one am roaring with laughter.

bob in pa

-- Re: Depression

----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Owens > Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'. ;)Sue:They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.BillPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

Bob:

How come whenever I tell jokes with e-mail. the subject is always listed as "Depression?"

Bill

Re: Depression

----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Owens > Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'. ;)Sue:They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.BillPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

Bob:

How come whenever I tell jokes with e-mail. the subject is always listed as "Depression?"

Bill

Re: Depression

----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Owens > Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'. ;)Sue:They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.BillPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

i have no idea bill. maybe cause the reply button has been getting hit ever since the original message. i said the hell with depression a few weeks ago. i put it on disregard and hid it right behind the brain farts.

bob in pa

-- Re: Depression

Bob:

How come whenever I tell jokes with e-mail. the subject is always listed as "Depression?"

Bill

Re: Depression

----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Owens > Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'. ;)Sue:They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.BillPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

i have no idea bill. maybe cause the reply button has been getting hit ever since the original message. i said the hell with depression a few weeks ago. i put it on disregard and hid it right behind the brain farts.

bob in pa

-- Re: Depression

Bob:

How come whenever I tell jokes with e-mail. the subject is always listed as "Depression?"

Bill

Re: Depression

----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Owens > Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'. ;)Sue:They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.BillPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

Sharon:

Yes I am. Unfortunately the circumstances when my wife tells me that make

it extremely unflattering to a man.

Bill

----- Original Message -----

From: <IIPistacio@...>

> YOU ARE VERY VERY BAD!!

[Guest guest]

Sharon:

Yes I am. Unfortunately the circumstances when my wife tells me that make

it extremely unflattering to a man.

Bill

----- Original Message -----

From: <IIPistacio@...>

> YOU ARE VERY VERY BAD!!

[Guest guest]

Bad Bill.....

> > Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'.

>

> Sue:

>

> They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.

Red lights n all, eh?

Bad Sue

--

" She was not quite what you would call refined.

She was not quite what you would call unrefined.

She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. "

-- Mark Twain

Rich and Sue Owens

http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html

[Guest guest]

Bad Bill.....

> > Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'.

>

> Sue:

>

> They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.

Red lights n all, eh?

Bad Sue

--

" She was not quite what you would call refined.

She was not quite what you would call unrefined.

She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. "

-- Mark Twain

Rich and Sue Owens

http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html

[Guest guest]

Bob,

>

> i think you guys have lost your marbles today. keep up the good

work and lose a couple more. i for one am roaring with laughter.

Okay, but we do NOT want to hear that now laughing too much

causes zaps!

Sue

bob in pa

-- Re: Depression

----- Original Message -----

From: Sue Owens

> Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'.

Sue:

They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.

Bill

Please visit the Zapper homepage at

http://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

Bob,

>

> i think you guys have lost your marbles today. keep up the good

work and lose a couple more. i for one am roaring with laughter.

Okay, but we do NOT want to hear that now laughing too much

causes zaps!

Sue

bob in pa

-- Re: Depression

----- Original Message -----

From: Sue Owens

> Hmmm.... kinda thot your craft should be in 'the ditch'.

Sue:

They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run 'way.

Bill

Please visit the Zapper homepage at

http://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

Bill.....

> How come whenever I tell jokes with e-mail. the subject is always

> listed as " Depression? "

>

>

> LOLOL! Same here.... guess we best not quit our day jobs, eh?

> Sue

>

--

" She was not quite what you would call refined.

She was not quite what you would call unrefined.

She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. "

-- Mark Twain

Rich and Sue Owens

http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html

[Guest guest]

Bill.....

> How come whenever I tell jokes with e-mail. the subject is always

> listed as " Depression? "

>

>

> LOLOL! Same here.... guess we best not quit our day jobs, eh?

> Sue

>

--

" She was not quite what you would call refined.

She was not quite what you would call unrefined.

She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. "

-- Mark Twain

Rich and Sue Owens

http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Sue Owens > > They were all runway girls. I'd show up and they'd run

'way.

>

> Red lights n all, eh?

That's why those of us who soar (or as the case may be, are just sore) they

call them running lights. Besides, red light districts are misnamed. Red

lights mean stop, and there you can go as far as you want..

Best.

Bill

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Sue Owens

> Guess we best not quit our day jobs, eh?

Jobs? Did you forget what forum this is? Even if some of us still pull

downa paycheck, we nknow how to avoid actully working.

Bill

[Guest guest]

Mark,

Here are some things I'd try:

1. Focus more on theta/alpha (?) reduction than on Beta production.

2. Try a bipolar hookup at C3/F3 training as above.

3. Ditto at T3/Fp1.

4. If you are using 19-22 for Beta, try 15-18; or vice-versa.

5. If there is an alpha imbalance frontally, train Alpha down F3/Cz or train Alpha up F4/Cz.

Keep us informed. This sounds interesting.

Pete

-----Original Message-----From: Mark Waller [mailto:mrwaller@...]Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:23 AM Subject: depression

Pete et al:

I currently have a client that presents with all of the classic symptoms of depression. His assessment – both of the instruments we are using now, point to processing issues. There is some frontal imbalance pointing to depression and the questionnaire points to central strip problems.

Anyway, I went confidently to beta training at C3 thinking that I would get some kind of response. After two sessions, he says it makes him sleepy. Hug?

Any pointers?

Mark

[Guest guest]

Another thing about this person that is

interesting if not relevant. His overall levels are significantly lower than

most I’ve seen. Don’t

know what that means.

Mark

depression

Pete et al:

I currently

have a client that presents with all of the classic symptoms of depression. His

assessment – both of the instruments we are using now, point to

processing issues. There is some frontal imbalance pointing to depression and

the questionnaire points to central strip problems.

Anyway, I went

confidently to beta training at C3 thinking that I would get some kind of

response. After two sessions, he says it makes him sleepy. Hug?

Any pointers?

Mark

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By the way, Pete. I have been using the default Beta freq. which is 15 -20. Maybe

19-22 would be better?

Mark

depression

Pete et al:

I currently

have a client that presents with all of the classic symptoms of depression. His

assessment – both of the instruments we are using now, point to

processing issues. There is some frontal imbalance pointing to depression and

the questionnaire points to central strip problems.

Anyway, I went

confidently to beta training at C3 thinking that I would get some kind of

response. After two sessions, he says it makes him sleepy. Hug?

Any pointers?

Mark

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Mark,

By the way, Pete. I have been using the default Beta freq. which is 15 -20. Maybe 19-22 would be better?

Depends on the client. For most adults, I prefer to start with 19-22, 15-18 for most kids, but I adjust based on response.

My traumatic brain injury patient shows Alpha slow in the occipitals, which would relate to memory problems. I have assumed all along left side beta training but not sure how to pin point it. Any suggestions? Another thing about this person that is interesting if not relevant. His overall levels are significantly lower than most I’ve seen. Don’t know what that means.

I have my old problem here, Mark. I know nothing about this person except a few scraps that even Hemingway wouldn't consider a characterization. I know you've mentioned a few folks you were looking at recently, but I can't keep track of the data on them, or even ID them, from e-mail to e-mail. How old is this person? One thing very low levels of activation can mean is that the client is old. Another thing it can mean is that there is damage to the gray matter. Is the slowing of alpha in the O site the only finding from the assessment, or were there others? Occipital lobes are primarily related to visual pattern recognition and association with previous visual patterns. Left prefrontal and temporal areas would be more likely related to memory issues. Did you try the digit span testing (if this is the same client), and what did you find?

Pete