weight gain

[Guest guest]

NO portion control with nuts. First day today with the UDOs and my ratios w/ it

were 40/40/20 almost exactly. It also raised my calories to over 1800, which was

a little scary for me, but I'm going to do it! i really like the taste of UDOs

too.

tjay1302000 wrote: Knowledge is power...

Just don't buy any peanut butter.

Try raw almonds, just plain from the bulk bin.

Stick with UDO's or flax oil. They are exactly what the human brain

is craving in a healthy way. Once it gets its daily supply alot of

the other " cravings " settle down to a managable level.

Rye crackers are crunchy, but don't trigger me.

Keep thinking and sharing the women on this group are great at coming

up with suggestions to think about.

Just take it one meal at a time

M.

>

> Problem is, peanut butter is on that list,even the natural kind! I

could eat half the jar!

[Guest guest]

I love UDO's too! Try it on a baked potatoe with low fat parmesan

cheese! So Good!

> >

> > Problem is, peanut butter is on that list,even the natural kind!

I

> could eat half the jar!

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[Guest guest]

That sounds really good! I put it on my salad that I have packed for tomorrow.

How does this plan sound for tomorrow?

Cardio

Meal 1-1/2 c. oats, 1/2 c egg beaters, 1/2 scoop protein (as a pancake)

meal 2- 6 hard boiled egg whites and an apple

meal 3- turkey burger, big spinach salad w/ veggies, UDO's, a little ketchup

and mustard, whole wheat wrap

meal 4- Myoplex Lite

meal 5- Grilled chicken salad w/ lots of veggies and oil/vinegar dressing

meal 6-Myoplex Carb Sense w/ frozen berries

Also-I use a LOT of that Walden Farms calorie free dip and syrup to thicken my

shakes and b/c I have severe sugar cravings. Should I try to cut back? I feel

like they may be causing bloat, but i like my shakes to be thick and have a lot

of volume to them.

Elise wrote:

I love UDO's too! Try it on a baked potatoe with low fat parmesan

cheese! So Good!

> >

> > Problem is, peanut butter is on that list,even the natural kind!

I

> could eat half the jar!

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[Guest guest]

It looks good for someone who is trying to lose weight.

Which is not your current situation.

n

At 01:02 AM 5/12/2006, you wrote:

>That sounds really good! I put it on my salad that I have packed for

>tomorrow. How does this plan sound for tomorrow?

>

> Cardio

> Meal 1-1/2 c. oats, 1/2 c egg beaters, 1/2 scoop protein (as a pancake)

> meal 2- 6 hard boiled egg whites and an apple

> meal 3- turkey burger, big spinach salad w/ veggies, UDO's, a little

> ketchup and mustard, whole wheat wrap

> meal 4- Myoplex Lite

> meal 5- Grilled chicken salad w/ lots of veggies and oil/vinegar dressing

> meal 6-Myoplex Carb Sense w/ frozen berries

>

> Also-I use a LOT of that Walden Farms calorie free dip and syrup to

> thicken my shakes and b/c I have severe sugar cravings. Should I try to

> cut back? I feel like they may be causing bloat, but i like my shakes to

> be thick and have a lot of volume to them.

[Guest guest]

Really? I thought adding the olive oil dressing and UDO's was a good start.

Should I switch to Myoplex Original? Double up meal 1? Add nuts or cheese to my

salad?

n wrote: It looks good for someone who

is trying to lose weight.

Which is not your current situation.

n

At 01:02 AM 5/12/2006, you wrote:

>That sounds really good! I put it on my salad that I have packed for

>tomorrow. How does this plan sound for tomorrow?

>

> Cardio

> Meal 1-1/2 c. oats, 1/2 c egg beaters, 1/2 scoop protein (as a pancake)

> meal 2- 6 hard boiled egg whites and an apple

> meal 3- turkey burger, big spinach salad w/ veggies, UDO's, a little

> ketchup and mustard, whole wheat wrap

> meal 4- Myoplex Lite

> meal 5- Grilled chicken salad w/ lots of veggies and oil/vinegar dressing

> meal 6-Myoplex Carb Sense w/ frozen berries

>

> Also-I use a LOT of that Walden Farms calorie free dip and syrup to

> thicken my shakes and b/c I have severe sugar cravings. Should I try to

> cut back? I feel like they may be causing bloat, but i like my shakes to

> be thick and have a lot of volume to them.

[Guest guest]

Tara

People are giving you contradictory suggestion about your peanut

butter and nuts. Which proves only one point -- there is no correct

answer. This is the exact kind of question you need to develop the

ability to " know " the answer to yourself -- is it responsive to my

needs to eat peanut butter? Can I eat a small amount and enjoy it?

Recently I did an experiment with eating a small amount of brownie

and I found the craving it provoked was actually an unpleasant

experience. So I don't do brownie. Nuts almost do that to me, but

it's within and reasonable level. And I get to enjoy the nuts. And

it's great to dis-enpower the nuts (for myself) by eating them and

NOT being overwhelmed.

But you need to figure out what works for you.

felicity

> NO portion control with nuts. First day today with the UDOs and my

> ratios w/ it were 40/40/20 almost exactly. It also raised my

> calories to over 1800, which was a little scary for me, but I'm

> going to do it! i really like the taste of UDOs too.

[Guest guest]

Great post Felicity. You're right. I have that problem with sweets like cookies

and cake. I just cannot enjoy a small amount and stop. It sets something off in

me that I don't like. I know I need to figure things out for myself, and I will!

Felicity wrote: Tara

People are giving you contradictory suggestion about your peanut

butter and nuts. Which proves only one point -- there is no correct

answer. This is the exact kind of question you need to develop the

ability to " know " the answer to yourself -- is it responsive to my

needs to eat peanut butter? Can I eat a small amount and enjoy it?

Recently I did an experiment with eating a small amount of brownie

and I found the craving it provoked was actually an unpleasant

experience. So I don't do brownie. Nuts almost do that to me, but

it's within and reasonable level. And I get to enjoy the nuts. And

it's great to dis-enpower the nuts (for myself) by eating them and

NOT being overwhelmed.

But you need to figure out what works for you.

felicity

> NO portion control with nuts. First day today with the UDOs and my

> ratios w/ it were 40/40/20 almost exactly. It also raised my

> calories to over 1800, which was a little scary for me, but I'm

> going to do it! i really like the taste of UDOs too.

[Guest guest]

Tara,

>Problem is, peanut butter is on that list,even the natural kind! I

could eat half the jar!

Don't buy/eat peanut butter!

If you really have the same issue as those of us wanting to lose

weight: not knowing what a portion is, not eating what our body needs

to maintain the weight we want without obsessing... I think what

jay1302000 wrote: Tara, snip... I doubt if

green beans, UDO's, oatmeal, or cabbage are on the list

If you add legal food, you probably won't gain more than you want. It's

the trigger foods that probably are your demons.

There are other yummy things instead of peanut butter, a trigger food

for me too. A handful of almonds. Oprah said " unroasted " just as we

dont' heat UDO's ... oil prefers to be unheated... Avocado... banana...

just 1 extra yummy item a day will up your calories 100

- Etana

[Guest guest]

From: " Tara Winnett " twinnett001@...

>I have that problem with sweets like cookies and cake. I just cannot

enjoy a small amount and stop.

So perhaps you can achieve peace in your eating if you only allow 1

free day of those items, or 2 free meals. Just like BFL says... It

sounds like the real food isn't a problem for your binging.

Etana

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Tara, for your recent posts.

I am measuring about 18% on the Tanita and/or Omron, so that makes

me.... 13-14%? (Are you using athlete mode on them?) My weight is

just slightly higher than yours so we are probably similar height

and/or composition.

Your posts both inspire me and scare me because they are so in line

with my own experiences. I am up/down with my sugar cravings and

often fulfill them with fake sugar which just makes them worse.

Once I pretty much just ate a whole container of that Walden Farms

chocolate dip with a spoon. Bad aftertaste but it still seemed like

the 'right' thing to do at the time. I think you know what I

mean....

knows what she is talking about so I try to trust her and

BELIEVE what she says. Especially regarding the calorie cut-down

spiral from hell. I'm averaging about 1550 per day and have been

for over a year, but lately have plateaued in weight and even have

this suspicion that I am putting on some fat. Pants fit just a

teeny bit differently than before, etc. Eeek!

So logically I KNOW that I need to shake up the metabolism by eating

MORE for awhile, especially adding good fats, instead of eating

LESS, which is the temptation. But it is SOOOO hard to do that.

Eating " clean " seems to help the most, and that first week is

killer. If I can stay away from both real and fake sugar for a

whole week the cravings just melt away, but thinking about

accomplishing that is almost painful when all I want is a pint of

fat free frozen yogurt, and NOW, dammit! Like you and I do

not have that " too much of a good thing is too much " OFF-switch when

eating carbs in particular. I used to eat a whole box of dry cereal

at a time when I was in college, with no problems whatsoever. At

least then I didn't have guilt about it, though, so in some sense it

was a less messed-up situation.

Please email me directly if you'd like to 'team up' and try to work

together to meet our goals of metabolism reform and clean eating....

maybe peer pressure will help? Hmmm....

in Albuquerque

>

> Great post Felicity. You're right. I have that problem with sweets

like cookies and cake. I just cannot enjoy a small amount and stop.

It sets something off in me that I don't like. I know I need to

figure things out for myself, and I will!

>

[Guest guest]

Good news about the UDO's.

Sounds like you have found the path that gets you where you want to go.

Cheers.

>

> NO portion control with nuts. First day today with the UDOs and my

ratios w/ it were 40/40/20 almost exactly. It also raised my calories

to over 1800, which was a little scary for me, but I'm going to do it!

i really like the taste of UDOs too.

[Guest guest]

I would try to cut back on the fake sweeteners if I were you.

I use a bit of natural (low glycemic) sweeteners like; stevia, barley

malt syrup, or agave syrup. Actually, I have weaned off most of the

sweeteners these days, but that's partly because fat loss is one of my

current goals. Lucky you to have more options.

I like to add 1/4 cup of raw oatmeal or a tablespoon of psyllium husks

to my shake. A couple icecubes thickens them up nicely too. Might

need to adjust the water to your own liking.

M.

> Also-I use a LOT of that Walden Farms calorie free dip and syrup

to thicken my shakes and b/c I have severe sugar cravings. Should I

try to cut back? I feel like they may be causing bloat, but i like my

shakes to be thick and have a lot of volume to them.

[Guest guest]

I think your planned meals look great.

All you need to do is adjust the amount of UDO's or eat one of the egg

yolks per day to move along toward your goal of gaining a bit.

I really like all the colorful/healthy fruit and veggies in this day's

plan. Those give you the minerals and vitamins that grow healthy kids

when the time comes

Also, if women are thinking of a future family, be sure you are taking

good prenatal vitamins now. Folic acid is very important.

Take the daily 3 doses of calcium too to keep your bones solid.

M.

>

> That sounds really good! I put it on my salad that I have packed for

tomorrow. How does this plan sound for tomorrow?

>

> Cardio

> Meal 1-1/2 c. oats, 1/2 c egg beaters, 1/2 scoop protein (as a

pancake)

> meal 2- 6 hard boiled egg whites and an apple

> meal 3- turkey burger, big spinach salad w/ veggies, UDO's, a

little ketchup and mustard, whole wheat wrap

> meal 4- Myoplex Lite

> meal 5- Grilled chicken salad w/ lots of veggies and oil/vinegar

dressing

> meal 6-Myoplex Carb Sense w/ frozen berries

>

[Guest guest]

Tara,

That is a great start. I think you'll see some improvements in things

you've been worried about, brittle nails, dry hair etc... just from

making those additions.

Do yourself a favor and stay off of the scale. I know, we've been

through this before. You know. Since you don't have a weight loss

goal, but a goal for how you look and feel, what good is the scale to

you anyway? It is not telling you " you have more energy today " or

" your abs are looking great! " ....

I'm proud of you for adding these things. Keep it up, and let us know

how it is going.

Barbara

> >

> > What would be a good rate to gain every week? I've finally

> decided that I really should gain some muscle and fat. I'm down to

> about 115 and my bodyfat is probably under 10, b/c tanita is saying

> 13%. I have been eating around 1600 calories a day, and my

> metabolism has probably slowed down. I'm afraid that if I gain

> weight too fast, I'll freak out and start restricting calories

> again. Any recommendations for how many calories I should add every

> week and how much I should be gaining a week? I'd like to get to 125

> with 14 or 15% bodyfat.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Tara,

For now just stick with the changes you are started, take the UDOs and

add the peanutbutter to your shake (that is what you planned, right?)

Make no other changes. I think very shortly you will find that your

craving for sweets just goes away. Then reduce those things you are

adding to thicken the shake and you will probably not miss them.

Your meal plan looks great to me.

Barbara

> > >

> > > Problem is, peanut butter is on that list,even the natural kind!

> I

> > could eat half the jar!

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[Guest guest]

>

> It looks good for someone who is trying to lose weight.

> Which is not your current situation.

> n

>

Right, but this is just step one for her. She is going to do this for

a week or so, then add a little more.

Barbara

[Guest guest]

I just don't eat them at all. I've realized that I just can't.

etanafinkler wrote: From: " Tara Winnett "

twinnett001@...

>I have that problem with sweets like cookies and cake. I just cannot

enjoy a small amount and stop.

So perhaps you can achieve peace in your eating if you only allow 1

free day of those items, or 2 free meals. Just like BFL says... It

sounds like the real food isn't a problem for your binging.

Etana

[Guest guest]

my friend who is anorexic was having major thyroid problems and UDOs

saved her heatlh

felicity

> Good news about the UDO's.

> Sounds like you have found the path that gets you where you want to

> go.

> Cheers.

>

>

>

>>

>> NO portion control with nuts. First day today with the UDOs and my

> ratios w/ it were 40/40/20 almost exactly. It also raised my calories

> to over 1800, which was a little scary for me, but I'm going to do it!

> i really like the taste of UDOs too.

>

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[Guest guest]

That is so WONDERFUL.

TM

>

> my friend who is anorexic was having major thyroid problems and UDOs

> saved her heatlh

[Guest guest]

Ok...get this guys. Almost 2000 calories today! I may regret it when I'm up

like 5 pounds tomorrow, but I'm trusting you ! It was all clean. Had a mini

meal before cardio this morning, added UDOs to my lunch salad and had a little

olive oil on my chicken salad at dinner. Got up to 25% fat today. My dad said he

was so happy to see me eating more when we were out to dinner. He's been really

worried about me. Getting my first wedding dress fitting tomorrow. Thank you all

for your help and support. It helps me to keep you updated. I guess it's the

accountability. Feel free to delete and skip over my posts if you aren't

interested! I have to admit I'm kind of freaked out that I've went from 113.4

to 117 pounds in a week. I know I need to stay away from the scale, but when I

see that, I sometimes think in the back of my mind that I really don't need to

gain weight. Like I said though, I'm giving this more calorie thing a fair shot!

tjay1302000 wrote: That is so WONDERFUL.

TM

>

> my friend who is anorexic was having major thyroid problems and UDOs

> saved her heatlh

[Guest guest]

This post has really helped me awaken to the foods that 'trigger' an

out of control feeling for me. thank you!

On the Healthy list they are:

peanut butter, nuts--any kind

shredded wheat/ Kashi

fruit flavored yogurt

any bread

sometimes brown rice

sometimes oatmeal

pasta

protein bars

bananas

all sugar free jams

POPCORN

These foods, though yummy, have a nice cadence:

protein shakes

rye crackers

vegetables

fish

eggs,

any meat

cheese (skim kind)

cottage cheese

non starchy fruit

avacados

non fat mayo

salsa

skim milk

If I switch my meals between savory and sweet:

M1 eggs w/ oatmeal (savory)

M2 protein shake (sweet)

M3 rosemary chicken and spinach w/ Udo's and raw garlic (SAVORY!)

Then I don't feel denied

and those are my little foodisms

-

From: " Tara Winnett "

twinnett001@...

> >I have that problem with sweets like cookies and cake. I just

cannot

> enjoy a small amount and stop.

>

> So perhaps you can achieve peace in your eating if you only allow

1

> free day of those items, or 2 free meals. Just like BFL says... It

> sounds like the real food isn't a problem for your binging.

>

> Etana

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Your list sounds similar to mine! my blender just broke!! It's a brand new

Kitchen Aid!

beijobear wrote: This post has really helped me awaken to

the foods that 'trigger' an

out of control feeling for me. thank you!

On the Healthy list they are:

peanut butter, nuts--any kind

shredded wheat/ Kashi

fruit flavored yogurt

any bread

sometimes brown rice

sometimes oatmeal

pasta

protein bars

bananas

all sugar free jams

POPCORN

These foods, though yummy, have a nice cadence:

protein shakes

rye crackers

vegetables

fish

eggs,

any meat

cheese (skim kind)

cottage cheese

non starchy fruit

avacados

non fat mayo

salsa

skim milk

If I switch my meals between savory and sweet:

M1 eggs w/ oatmeal (savory)

M2 protein shake (sweet)

M3 rosemary chicken and spinach w/ Udo's and raw garlic (SAVORY!)

Then I don't feel denied

and those are my little foodisms

-

From: " Tara Winnett "

twinnett001@...

> >I have that problem with sweets like cookies and cake. I just

cannot

> enjoy a small amount and stop.

>

> So perhaps you can achieve peace in your eating if you only allow

1

> free day of those items, or 2 free meals. Just like BFL says... It

> sounds like the real food isn't a problem for your binging.

>

> Etana

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

YAY YOU!!!

You are right, stay away from the scale. Give this a week, let your

body settle in. Heck, give it two....or throw the darn scale out!

You are going to feel tons better. I'm glad your Dad made encouraging

comments, our parents have such an influence on us, no matter what our

age.

Keep it up.

Barbara

> >

> > my friend who is anorexic was having major thyroid problems and UDOs

> > saved her heatlh

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[Guest guest]

Had my free day today, which are getting better and better each time. The only

" free " things I had were a couple of small rolls (not wheat!) w/ my chicken

salad at lunch. Took my UDOs like a good girl. Fitday is saying around 1500 so

far, and I just ate meal 5. I'm counting the oil in fitday though. Don't know if

I should or not, but it makes my fat up around 20-25% instead of 14 or 15 like

it was. Only did an ab clinic today...no cardio! Feeling very tired though, but

I think the oil is helping w/ cravings. I used to feel like I was on edge and on

the prowl all night for food, even if I wasn't physically hungry. I hope

everyone else is doing great! Have a happy mother's day!

alysd38 <no_reply > wrote: YAY YOU!!!

You are right, stay away from the scale. Give this a week, let your

body settle in. Heck, give it two....or throw the darn scale out!

You are going to feel tons better. I'm glad your Dad made encouraging

comments, our parents have such an influence on us, no matter what our

age.

Keep it up.

Barbara

> >

> > my friend who is anorexic was having major thyroid problems and UDOs

> > saved her heatlh

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[Guest guest]

,

I gained 3 lbs in 10 days by going from 900 calories a day to about

1300. I started with adding the banana smoothie recipe you can find in

the files section of this group. I got sick of the smoothie but am

adding 1-2 tsps of flaxseed oil to things like soups, rice, whatever

I'm eating. 40 calories per teaspoon. My appetite increases when the

foods are higher in fruits and vegetables. They're hard to chew and

swallow but I'm doing great with pureed soups. I'm also drinking a

Scandishake (400 calories) on days I'm not eating as much. They're not

gritty if I make them an hour ahead of time.

I started at 53 lbs. 5 weeks ago. I'm scheduled to be weighed Sunday

morning. I'll let you know how it's going. Also, I figured out how

much I was eating and what nutrients are missing by entering what I eat

here: http://www.mypyramidtracker.gov/Default.htm

Alana

>

> Hello all,

> I desperately want to put on a few pounds (I weight roughly 60). I'd

> like to be at a comfortable 75 or so, just so that I have meat on my

> bones if I were to get sick and rapidly lose weight. My problem is, I

> have the hardest time gaining weight EVER.

> Any suggestions?

> Thanks! -

>