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Hi Sandy, Yes, had the mycoplasma test, had it treated and now supposedly it's

gone when retested. That was 7 years ago, way before the itching. Good thought

tho. Thanks. Edy

sandie0874 <HallLeibow@...> wrote: Edy,

My doctor said that the polyclonal gammopathy result from the

immunofixation test was " non-specific and just shows that your body

is making a ton of antibodies " . I get that bad sunburnt feeling too

but it isn't as bad as the itching. Never had these symptoms before I

got sick. I've tried everything. Did some researching today. It's

interesting that both " skin itching " and " skin sunburn sensation "

both appear on a symptoms survey form on Dr. Garth Nicolson's site

(along with many other symptoms I have).

http://www.immed.org/signsympt.htm

Have you been tested for mycoplasma infections? I think that is one

type of infection that Dr. Nicolson focuses on. About a year ago I

was positive for mycoplasma pneumoniae (PCR test).

Sandy

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> > Hi Rich, Yes, I've actually taken the VCS test 3 times in the

past

> 2 years and passed with flying colors. From what I understand maybe

> 1 in 10 do pass this crucial test and still have toxins from mold.

> I'm thinking I also need to join the yeast list because I've been

> tested on several occassions and am off the charts high with

> antibodies and organisms. Blood and stool tests. Maybe you have

> some insight on this. I itch EVERYWHERE. Even my tongue and

> throat. Bottoms of feet, palms, just miserable with it. I've been

> doing HBOT for lyme for 4 months at home and thought for a while it

> was die off, but now think might be yeast stuff. I'm clueless. At

> first just itched when I took or ate something, but now it's

> constant. Here's the weird thing, tho. Not when I'm asleep. I wake

> up fine and after moving around a bit, here it comes. Any thoughts?

> Sorry to be picking your brain so much today. Smiles, Edy

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Try to take some breaks with the hyperbaric...and try to get an

antifungal. My hunch and I could be wrong, is that the hyperbaric is

stimulating some fungi. They are facultative anaerobes and can use

oxygen when required. You do a lot o fhyperbaric, you can kill

anaerobes and leave more room for fungi to grow.

If you take an antifungal with the hyperbaric that would be ideal.

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> > > Hi Rich, Yes, I've actually taken the VCS test 3 times in the

> past

> > 2 years and passed with flying colors. From what I understand maybe

> > 1 in 10 do pass this crucial test and still have toxins from mold.

> > I'm thinking I also need to join the yeast list because I've been

> > tested on several occassions and am off the charts high with

> > antibodies and organisms. Blood and stool tests. Maybe you have

> > some insight on this. I itch EVERYWHERE. Even my tongue and

> > throat. Bottoms of feet, palms, just miserable with it. I've been

> > doing HBOT for lyme for 4 months at home and thought for a while it

> > was die off, but now think might be yeast stuff. I'm clueless. At

> > first just itched when I took or ate something, but now it's

> > constant. Here's the weird thing, tho. Not when I'm asleep. I wake

> > up fine and after moving around a bit, here it comes. Any thoughts?

> > Sorry to be picking your brain so much today. Smiles, Edy

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This is a wild stab in the dark, but if it's gotten worse since you started

hyperbaric, the actual cause might be the extra oxygen. One of the problems

with at least some CFS is a deficit in anit-oxidant ability. In your shoes,

I'd be tempted to give the hyperbaric a rest, at least as a test.

- Bob Niederman

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I think you're probably right. It seems that if I skip a day I don't itch quite

so badly and I'm so exhaused right now from herxing maybe that I think I will

slow down on it. Not what Lance recommends, but one has to tailor anything to

suit. Randy is difficult to get in to so don't have an appt. for a few weeks,

but that's when I'll probably get going on antifungals.

jill1313 <jenbooks13@...> wrote: Try to take some breaks with

the hyperbaric...and try to get an

antifungal. My hunch and I could be wrong, is that the hyperbaric is

stimulating some fungi. They are facultative anaerobes and can use

oxygen when required. You do a lot o fhyperbaric, you can kill

anaerobes and leave more room for fungi to grow.

If you take an antifungal with the hyperbaric that would be ideal.

> > >

> > > Hi Rich, Yes, I've actually taken the VCS test 3 times in the

> past

> > 2 years and passed with flying colors. From what I understand maybe

> > 1 in 10 do pass this crucial test and still have toxins from mold.

> > I'm thinking I also need to join the yeast list because I've been

> > tested on several occassions and am off the charts high with

> > antibodies and organisms. Blood and stool tests. Maybe you have

> > some insight on this. I itch EVERYWHERE. Even my tongue and

> > throat. Bottoms of feet, palms, just miserable with it. I've been

> > doing HBOT for lyme for 4 months at home and thought for a while it

> > was die off, but now think might be yeast stuff. I'm clueless. At

> > first just itched when I took or ate something, but now it's

> > constant. Here's the weird thing, tho. Not when I'm asleep. I wake

> > up fine and after moving around a bit, here it comes. Any thoughts?

> > Sorry to be picking your brain so much today. Smiles, Edy

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Dave, I sometimes take Benadryl for itching, and you can use topical treatments for the itching. I have a OCD tendency to claw myself anyway, let a itchy part start and I will claw a hole in myself. Benadryl makes a topical ointment that is effective. Also keeping the skin hydrated helps you not itch. So drink lots of fluids. And helps you keep young. Really. I will have Hubbie take a picture of me today. I am 53 years old. And look 10 years younger. Why?? well okay, Okay genetics have something to do with it. But I also drink a lot of water. Keeps the skin cells plump and soft. Gold Bond intestive lotion is great as a topical treatment, Aveeno soap,lotion and body lotion is great. Hope this

helps Love Janet Dave <d_k45050@...> wrote: I was wonder if there is anyone out there that is taking for itching ?I've just started itching about a month ago and It's getting worse and worse.Thanks,PEACE,Take the ordinary things

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Dave,

My husband is the one with the Hep C, he has had the

itching since 1990, never knew what it was all about,

to make a long story short, what his new doctors told

him is that it is part of the Hep C. It seems as

though when he cuts out salt in his diet the itching

seems to subside. The other thing that we noticed is

that when he gets sick,with a cold the itching also

stops. He has tried many different types of lotions

and creams, the one that seems to work the best is

Aveeno.

Hope this helps.

NoeLani

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> I was wonder if there is anyone out there that is

> taking for itching ?

> I've just started itching about a month ago and It's

> getting worse and

> worse.

> Thanks,

> PEACE,

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> I was wonder if there is anyone out there that is taking

for itching ?

> I've just started itching about a month ago and It's getting worse

and

> worse.

> Thanks,

> PEACE,

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Have you gone to a dermatologist? They might prescribe something that would help. An oatmeal bath will temporarily relieve symptoms.What stage of tx are you? The itching could end as quickly as it started.Good luck,DonDon Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

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I have had the little red bumps and itchy skin, etc, now on tx for 4 months.Even before tx I use lots of olive oil on my skin, but the benedryl is good too and my doc has me on vit. E everyday, lots of water, etc. I noticed that when I mountain bike ride my back is all wet and that makes it really worse, so go with out a shirt as much as possible and and exercise without a shirt, etc. In short, dry so Cal is maybe better than humid florida, but each person is different I suppose.other people have gone to a dermatologist to get steroid cream for the itching but that can be hard on the liver, go figuregood luck dudeedJanet <doc_jade@...> wrote: Dave, I sometimes take Benadryl for itching, and you can use topical treatments for the itching. I have a OCD tendency to claw myself anyway, let a itchy part start and I will claw a hole in myself. Benadryl makes a topical ointment that is effective. Also keeping the skin hydrated helps you not itch. So drink lots of fluids. And helps you keep young. Really. I will have Hubbie take a picture of me today. I am 53 years old. And look 10 years younger. Why?? well okay, Okay genetics have something to do with it. But I also drink a lot of water. Keeps the skin cells plump and

soft. Gold Bond intestive lotion is great as a topical treatment, Aveeno soap,lotion and body lotion is great. Hope this helps Love Janet Dave <d_k45050 > wrote: I was wonder if there is anyone out there that is taking for itching ?I've just started itching about a month ago and It's getting worse and worse.Thanks,PEACE,Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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I was prescribed something but I ended up getting hives and had to be taken off . It was called hydroxyase or something like that . I started using oatmeal soaps and that helped allot .

ITCHING

I was wonder if there is anyone out there that is taking for itching ?I've just started itching about a month ago and It's getting worse and worse.Thanks,PEACE,

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Hi Everett! Glad you found our group. Welcome to the " light side " ! See

you at the January suport gorup meeting, I hope!

> I was wonder if there is anyone out there that is taking for

itching ?

> I've just started itching about a month ago and It's getting worse and

> worse.

> Thanks,

> PEACE,

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Hi Glenda, what your experiencing is normal for someone with end stage liver disease..I has attached something about the condition, Is your Biblium elevated?? Kathy B..

Pruritus is a common manifestation of dermatologic diseases, including xerotic eczema, atopic dermatitis, and allergic contact dermatitis. Effective treatment of pruritus can prevent scratch-induced complications such as lichen simplex chronicus and impetigo. Patients, particularly elderly adults, with severe pruritus that does not respond to conservative therapy should be evaluated for an underlying systemic disease. Causes of systemic pruritus include uremia, cholestasis, polycythemia vera, Hodgkin's lymphoma, hyperthyroidism, and human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection. Skin scraping, biopsy, or culture may be indicated if skin lesions are present. Diagnostic testing is directed by the clinical evaluation and may include a complete blood count and measurement of thyroid-stimulating hormone, serum bilirubin, alkaline phosphatase, serum creatinine, and blood urea nitrogen levels. Chest radiography and testing for HIV infection may be indicated in some patients. Management of nonspecific pruritus is directed mostly at preventing xerosis. Management of disease-specific pruritus has been established for certain systemic conditions, including uremia and cholestasis. (Am Fam Physician 2003;68:1135-42,1145-6. Copyright© 2003 American Academy of Family Phys

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Hi Glenda, what your experiencing is normal for someone with end stage liver disease..I has attached something about the condition, Is your Biblium elevated?? Kathy B..

Pruritus is a common manifestation of dermatologic diseases, including xerotic eczema, atopic dermatitis, and allergic contact dermatitis. Effective treatment of pruritus can prevent scratch-induced complications such as lichen simplex chronicus and impetigo. Patients, particularly elderly adults, with severe pruritus that does not respond to conservative therapy should be evaluated for an underlying systemic disease. Causes of systemic pruritus include uremia, cholestasis, polycythemia vera, Hodgkin's lymphoma, hyperthyroidism, and human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection. Skin scraping, biopsy, or culture may be indicated if skin lesions are present. Diagnostic testing is directed by the clinical evaluation and may include a complete blood count and measurement of thyroid-stimulating hormone, serum bilirubin, alkaline phosphatase, serum creatinine, and blood urea nitrogen levels. Chest radiography and testing for HIV infection may be indicated in some patients. Management of nonspecific pruritus is directed mostly at preventing xerosis. Management of disease-specific pruritus has been established for certain systemic conditions, including uremia and cholestasis. (Am Fam Physician 2003;68:1135-42,1145-6. Copyright© 2003 American Academy of Family Phys

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Yea, thanks, my coordinator called and wanted me to get blood test and maybe a couple points on my meld score. I just went to get blood test.

I told her about being cold and more bruises, she yes that is normal as well for ESLD.

Thank you, I will read what you sent, thanks for answering so promptly.

Love ya,

Glenda

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Yea, thanks, my coordinator called and wanted me to get blood test and maybe a couple points on my meld score. I just went to get blood test.

I told her about being cold and more bruises, she yes that is normal as well for ESLD.

Thank you, I will read what you sent, thanks for answering so promptly.

Love ya,

Glenda

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I've struggled w/ itching for years...it has been diagnosed as an HIV dermatitis. I've seen numerous specialists and the diagnosis seems a little vague. I take lyrica (2 pills daily ) and atarax (as needed;10mg & 25mg). I also use UVB light at my dermatologist's office in the winter months. The lyrica addresses the same symtoms as a peripheral neuropathy focused treatment would. I've also taken neurontin previously. I haven't gotten a clear sense of what exactly is going on but it can be very aggravating and scratching just makes it worse and destroys your skin. I would scratch until my skin bleed, frankly, pretty awful. Hope that's helpful, tr __________________________________________________

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Hi Tripp,

just curious here, I have been having allergies to

sulpha base medication for years a common fact with

many HIV positive individuals.

Any chance your dermatitis is actually an allergy to

one or more of

your medications?

Also when in the past I had red spots on my face I was

also told I by my dermatologist that I had a

dermatitis, what I discovered in time is that

dermatitis is just a general term and it really means

nothing other then your doctor has no idea of what is

really causing the symptoms.

Mark B

--- tripp reed <trippreed@...> wrote:

> I've struggled w/ itching for years...it has been

> diagnosed as an HIV dermatitis. I've seen numerous

> specialists and the diagnosis seems a little vague.

> I take lyrica (2 pills daily ) and atarax (as

> needed;10mg & 25mg). I also use UVB light at my

> dermatologist's office in the winter months.

>

> The lyrica addresses the same symtoms as a

> peripheral neuropathy focused treatment would. I've

> also taken neurontin previously. I haven't gotten a

> clear sense of what exactly is going on but it can

> be very aggravating and scratching just makes it

> worse and destroys your skin. I would scratch until

> my skin bleed, frankly, pretty awful.

>

> Hope that's helpful,

> tr

>

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I got the same: ichting for years. Bloodworks didn't indicate any

infection, CRP under 1 White cells 7000.

Sinusitis looking like being allergic, lost of weight and kind of

depression for other symptomes.

6 weeks of monocycline ended all symptomes... By the begining of the

cure my docs were quite afraid of hypersensibility: a skin or my arms

healing, became awlull red...

Marek

Le 30 oct. 07, à 16:33, tripp reed a écrit :

> I've struggled w/ itching for years...it has been diagnosed as an HIV

> dermatitis. I've seen numerous specialists and the diagnosis seems a

> little vague.  I take lyrica (2 pills daily ) and atarax (as

> needed;10mg & 25mg).  I also use UVB light at my dermatologist's

> office in the winter months.

>  

> The lyrica addresses the same symtoms as a peripheral neuropathy

> focused treatment would. I've also taken neurontin previously. I

> haven't gotten a clear sense of what exactly is going on but it can be

> very aggravating and scratching just makes it worse and destroys your

> skin.  I would scratch until my skin bleed, frankly, pretty awful.

>  

> Hope that's helpful,

> tr

>

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Tripp,

Many years ago, while on Crixivan I also experienced the same symptoms as you. I still look back on this as my most serious quality of life issue I experienced although medically minor. It was awful, I just could not sit still in a restaurant, I was always uncomfortable, etc. Anyway, after seeing quite a few dermatologists I finally found one at UCSF that had an answer. This is what I had to do:

1. stop using soap, use Basis or some other non soap cleaner.

2. for 2-3 weeks I used 1% TAC cream over my entire body. (It was explained that the dryness of the skin caused a low level of inflammation which caused more dry skin.........etc.)

3. Take baths using Aveeno, or some other oatmeal colloidil.

4. PAT dry after showering, do not rub.

5. I also apply some organic massage oil all over my body after showering, then pat dry.

Hope this helps.

Larry

-------------- Original message -------------- From: tripp reed <trippreed@...>

I've struggled w/ itching for years...it has been diagnosed as an HIV dermatitis. I've seen numerous specialists and the diagnosis seems a little vague. I take lyrica (2 pills daily ) and atarax (as needed;10mg & 25mg). I also use UVB light at my dermatologist's office in the winter months.

The lyrica addresses the same symtoms as a peripheral neuropathy focused treatment would. I've also taken neurontin previously. I haven't gotten a clear sense of what exactly is going on but it can be very aggravating and scratching just makes it worse and destroys your skin. I would scratch until my skin bleed, frankly, pretty awful.

Hope that's helpful,

tr

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Tripp,

Many years ago, while on Crixivan I also experienced the same symptoms as you. I still look back on this as my most serious quality of life issue I experienced although medically minor. It was awful, I just could not sit still in a restaurant, I was always uncomfortable, etc. Anyway, after seeing quite a few dermatologists I finally found one at UCSF that had an answer. This is what I had to do:

1. stop using soap, use Basis or some other non soap cleaner.

2. for 2-3 weeks I used 1% TAC cream over my entire body. (It was explained that the dryness of the skin caused a low level of inflammation which caused more dry skin.........etc.)

3. Take baths using Aveeno, or some other oatmeal colloidil.

4. PAT dry after showering, do not rub.

5. I also apply some organic massage oil all over my body after showering, then pat dry.

Hope this helps.

Larry

-------------- Original message -------------- From: tripp reed <trippreed@...>

I've struggled w/ itching for years...it has been diagnosed as an HIV dermatitis. I've seen numerous specialists and the diagnosis seems a little vague. I take lyrica (2 pills daily ) and atarax (as needed;10mg & 25mg). I also use UVB light at my dermatologist's office in the winter months.

The lyrica addresses the same symtoms as a peripheral neuropathy focused treatment would. I've also taken neurontin previously. I haven't gotten a clear sense of what exactly is going on but it can be very aggravating and scratching just makes it worse and destroys your skin. I would scratch until my skin bleed, frankly, pretty awful.

Hope that's helpful,

tr

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This is a post that Charlie Smigelsky posted here in 2004:

Re: itchy skin

The first reports of severely dry itchy skin, even at the level of what you would call exfoliating dermatitis, came when our clinic had people on Crixivan, just when it was the new PI treatment option.Very dry skin can be a sign of essential fat deficiency. The essential fat being an omega 6 fat called GLA gamma linolenic acid. It happens that GLA is also the fat that is the moisture barrier in skin. GLA has effects on fat clearance from the blood too. People who run low on GLA have poorer peripheral lipase activity. It is the lipase activity that moves fat/triglycerides from the blood, on into fat and muscle cells. So low GLA can cause higher chloesterol, very high triglycerides, low HDL and dry skin. Sounds like many lipodystrophy events, doesn't it. Several times I have asked Merk people to check the effects of Indinavir/Crix on essential fat levels. They have no data on this. Evening primrose oil capsules are a good source of GLA. Houston and Boston Buyers clubs stock them and so does the chain of stores called The Vitamin Shoppe, (at a mall near you!) They come as 1000 mg or 1300 mg pills take two or three a day. The skin moisture improves in about 2-3 weeks. Then just 2 per day is reasonable maintenance.Raw sunflower seeds have decent amounts of GLA as well. Just as an aside, diabetic neuropathy is thought to be caused by GLA deficiency. The genetic events that promote insulin resistance also promote poor conversion of other fat to GLA in the body too. As I say in lectures, Rocky and Bullwinke, Chip and Dale, they all snack on nuts and seeds and berries in the forest all day. They are not fat and they have nice shiney coats. There is a lesson here.Charlie Smigelski RD

In a message dated 9/6/2008 3:32:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, garyhow60614@... writes:

Except for a 2 year break from medication, I have been on meds for about 10 years. Years ago I noticed I started to itch in my extremeties, more so in my feet and legs. The itching in the lower extremeties subsided over time, but came to rest in my hands. Eventually, it disappeared in my right hand. However, it has lingered in my left hand now for a couple of years and is getting worse. I am assuming the meds have something to do with this. I am on HIV meds as well as a daily viatmin, lipitor (every other day) and lexipro. My HIV drug regiment has changed a few times over ther past 10 years but not for the reasons mentioned here. I was wondering if others have had this experience and what they did about it. Thanks. ------------------------------------Welcome to our group!If you received this email from someone who forwarded it to you and would like to join this group, send a blank email to -subscribe and you will get an email with instructions to follow.You can chose to receive single emails or a daily digest (collection of emails). You can post pictures, images, attach files and search by keyword old postings in the group.For those of you who are members already and want to switch from single emails to digest or vice versa, visit www., click on , then on "edit my membership" and go down to your selection. The list administrator does not process any requests, so this is a do-it-yourself easy process ! :)Thanks for joining. You will learn and share a lot in this group!NOTE: I moderate, approve or disapprove emails before they are posted. Please follow the guidelines shown in the homepage. I will not allow rudeness, sexually explicit material, attacks, and anyone who does not follow the rules. If you are not OK with this, please do not join the group. Forward this email to anyone who may benefit from this information! Thanks!In Health, Vergel (PoWeRTX@...)List Founder and Moderator

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This is a post that Charlie Smigelsky posted here in 2004:

Re: itchy skin

The first reports of severely dry itchy skin, even at the level of what you would call exfoliating dermatitis, came when our clinic had people on Crixivan, just when it was the new PI treatment option.Very dry skin can be a sign of essential fat deficiency. The essential fat being an omega 6 fat called GLA gamma linolenic acid. It happens that GLA is also the fat that is the moisture barrier in skin. GLA has effects on fat clearance from the blood too. People who run low on GLA have poorer peripheral lipase activity. It is the lipase activity that moves fat/triglycerides from the blood, on into fat and muscle cells. So low GLA can cause higher chloesterol, very high triglycerides, low HDL and dry skin. Sounds like many lipodystrophy events, doesn't it. Several times I have asked Merk people to check the effects of Indinavir/Crix on essential fat levels. They have no data on this. Evening primrose oil capsules are a good source of GLA. Houston and Boston Buyers clubs stock them and so does the chain of stores called The Vitamin Shoppe, (at a mall near you!) They come as 1000 mg or 1300 mg pills take two or three a day. The skin moisture improves in about 2-3 weeks. Then just 2 per day is reasonable maintenance.Raw sunflower seeds have decent amounts of GLA as well. Just as an aside, diabetic neuropathy is thought to be caused by GLA deficiency. The genetic events that promote insulin resistance also promote poor conversion of other fat to GLA in the body too. As I say in lectures, Rocky and Bullwinke, Chip and Dale, they all snack on nuts and seeds and berries in the forest all day. They are not fat and they have nice shiney coats. There is a lesson here.Charlie Smigelski RD

In a message dated 9/6/2008 3:32:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, garyhow60614@... writes:

Except for a 2 year break from medication, I have been on meds for about 10 years. Years ago I noticed I started to itch in my extremeties, more so in my feet and legs. The itching in the lower extremeties subsided over time, but came to rest in my hands. Eventually, it disappeared in my right hand. However, it has lingered in my left hand now for a couple of years and is getting worse. I am assuming the meds have something to do with this. I am on HIV meds as well as a daily viatmin, lipitor (every other day) and lexipro. My HIV drug regiment has changed a few times over ther past 10 years but not for the reasons mentioned here. I was wondering if others have had this experience and what they did about it. Thanks. ------------------------------------Welcome to our group!If you received this email from someone who forwarded it to you and would like to join this group, send a blank email to -subscribe and you will get an email with instructions to follow.You can chose to receive single emails or a daily digest (collection of emails). You can post pictures, images, attach files and search by keyword old postings in the group.For those of you who are members already and want to switch from single emails to digest or vice versa, visit www., click on , then on "edit my membership" and go down to your selection. The list administrator does not process any requests, so this is a do-it-yourself easy process ! :)Thanks for joining. You will learn and share a lot in this group!NOTE: I moderate, approve or disapprove emails before they are posted. Please follow the guidelines shown in the homepage. I will not allow rudeness, sexually explicit material, attacks, and anyone who does not follow the rules. If you are not OK with this, please do not join the group. Forward this email to anyone who may benefit from this information! Thanks!In Health, Vergel (PoWeRTX@...)List Founder and Moderator

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In a message dated 23/09/2010 20:59:12 GMT Daylight Time, thelifechangers@... writes:

Someone on the group put up a suggestion about getting child to sit over a potty filled with warm milk with sugar in it... Apparently the worms are attracted to the smell of the milk .. and if worms are an issue... lots of them will move down the anus and into the milk!!

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Full moon today Tonia, parasites? Long time no post, good to see you

Mx

In a message dated 23/09/2010 20:49:02 GMT Daylight Time, thetoniagonzalez@... writes:

My son has a red anus and is itching it incessantly. My first thought was YEAST! So I cut out his fruit and ramped up the Candex. No joy. I have since administered over the counter threadworm meds. No joy.Does anyone have any experience with this? Any suggestions?Thanks in anticipation.Tonia (mum to Alfie 7yrs w/asd)

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normally it is a sign of worms.. With full moon now, eggs are hatching so loads of baby worms to annoy little bottoms, and the adults are laying eggs.

 

De worming on overcounter meds is most successful if dosing co incides with full moon and second dose with half moon.. These horrible critters reproduce every two weeks..

 

Someone on the group put up a suggestion about getting child to sit over a potty filled with warm milk with sugar in it... Apparently the worms are attracted to the smell of the milk .. and if worms are an issue... lots of them will move down the anus and into the milk!! 

 

The old herbal remedy for worms was ground pumpkin seeds in grated carrot, given before breakfast.. it is toxic to worms..

 

If he is itching, everyone and animals in the house will need treating too.

 

 

Tracey

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:07 PM, toniagonzalez17 <thetoniagonzalez@...> wrote:

 

My son has a red anus and is itching it incessantly. My first thought was YEAST! So I cut out his fruit and ramped up the Candex. No joy. I have since administered over the counter threadworm meds. No joy.Does anyone have any experience with this? Any suggestions?

Thanks in anticipation.Tonia (mum to Alfie 7yrs w/asd)