Insomnia

[Guest guest]

I notice I sleep better when I take an extra 12.5 mgs/spiro daily. You can

give it a try. When I take 50 mgs of spiro daily(in two 25mgs doses), my bp

remains around 120/80 but I tend to get up to go to the bathroom at least

once or twice at night. Once I go to the bathroom then I can't sleep and

have to stay up all night. Increasing the spiro by 1/2 pills twice a day

really helps in not going to the bathroom at night and also I tend to

actually sleep through the night.

Pehaps its the aldosterone that causes it and by taking the extra 1/2 spiro,

it is blocking the effects of spiro.

Dr. Grim, does this make any sense?

Farah

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Valarie <val@...> wrote:

> Could you explain " this risk " ?

>

>

> Val

>

> From: hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40>

>

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40>\

]

> On Behalf Of wallinglindac

>

> Thanks much for the info! I was thinking of asking for Ambien again;

> used it once for about a week several years ago and it really did help

> with the sleeping problems, but I don't want to take this risk.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I suspect you are right but always keep your Dr. informed as well.

On Dec 6, 2008, at 5:36 AM, Farah Rahbar wrote:

> I notice I sleep better when I take an extra 12.5 mgs/spiro daily.

> You can

> give it a try. When I take 50 mgs of spiro daily(in two 25mgs

> doses), my bp

> remains around 120/80 but I tend to get up to go to the bathroom at

> least

> once or twice at night. Once I go to the bathroom then I can't

> sleep and

> have to stay up all night. Increasing the spiro by 1/2 pills twice

> a day

> really helps in not going to the bathroom at night and also I tend to

> actually sleep through the night.

> Pehaps its the aldosterone that causes it and by taking the extra

> 1/2 spiro,

> it is blocking the effects of spiro.

> Dr. Grim, does this make any sense?

>

> Farah

>

> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Valarie <val@...> wrote:

>

> > Could you explain " this risk " ?

> >

> >

> > Val

> >

> > From: hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%

> 40>

> > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%

> 40>]

> > On Behalf Of wallinglindac

> >

> > Thanks much for the info! I was thinking of asking for Ambien again;

> > used it once for about a week several years ago and it really did

> help

> > with the sleeping problems, but I don't want to take this risk.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Farah, when do you take your 2 doses of spiro?

Carol

Farah Rahbar wrote:

>

> I notice I sleep better when I take an extra 12.5 mgs/spiro daily. You can

> give it a try. When I take 50 mgs of spiro daily(in two 25mgs doses),

> my bp

> remains around 120/80 but I tend to get up to go to the bathroom at least

> once or twice at night. Once I go to the bathroom then I can't sleep and

> have to stay up all night. Increasing the spiro by 1/2 pills twice a day

> really helps in not going to the bathroom at night and also I tend to

> actually sleep through the night.

> Pehaps its the aldosterone that causes it and by taking the extra 1/2

> spiro,

> it is blocking the effects of spiro.

> Dr. Grim, does this make any sense?

>

> Farah

>

> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Valarie <val@...

> <mailto:val%40wyosip.com>> wrote:

>

> > Could you explain " this risk " ?

> >

> >

> > Val

> >

> > From: hyperaldosteronism

>

<mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40><hyperaldosteronism%40groups.c\

om>

> > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism

>

<mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40><hyperaldosteronism%40groups.c\

om>]

> > On Behalf Of wallinglindac

> >

> > Thanks much for the info! I was thinking of asking for Ambien again;

> > used it once for about a week several years ago and it really did help

> > with the sleeping problems, but I don't want to take this risk.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dr Grim, I currently take 75mg spiro, 240mg verapamil, 150mg efexor. The

problem seems less to do with urination - more that I have great

difficulty falling asleep, and when I do, I can wake up shortly after in

a state of alert.

Carol

Clarence Grim wrote:

>

> A major cause of this is having to get up to pee. How many times do

> you do this?

>

> DASHing will likely help this as will spiro.

>

> What drugs are you on?

>

> Tell Dr. Stowasser I said hello-have missed him at several meetings

> in last year.

>

> BTW I am in Glasgow today to train 6 UK sites in proper BP

> measurement. Will inquire about interest in PA in these offices.

>

> Leave at noon on Saturday. Staying at the Menzies Hotel in Glasgow.

>

> Then will be in France for the week doing other Dr trainings on

> proper BP. In France only the Drs take the BP it appears.

>

> On Dec 4, 2008, at 10:40 PM, carolch58 wrote:

>

> > Hello all, Just wondering if others here suffer from insomnia. I'm

> > finding that it has gotten worse recently. I do have sleep apnoea and

> > use a CPAP machine. I find it very difficult to get to sleep, and then

> > continue to wake up during the night as if I have to be on the alert.

> > It's exhausting - only a couple of hours sleep each night.

> > Anyone aware of any links with PA?

> > Anyone dealt with it successfully?

> > Dr Grim, I finally have an appointment with Dr Stowasser in Brisbane

> > next week.

> > Carol (near Brisbane, Australia)

> >

> >

> >

>

> May your pressure be low!

>

> ?

>

> CE Grim BS, MS, MD

>

> High Blood Pressure Consulting

>

> Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Consulting

> Inc.(sharedcareinc.com)

>

> Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine Medical and Cardiology

> Medical College of Wisconsin

>

> Board certified in Internal Med, Geriatrics and Hypertension.

>

> Interests:

> 1. Difficult to control high blood pressure.

> 2. The effect of recent evolutionary forces on high blood pressure

> in human populations.

> 3. Improving blood pressure measurement in the office and out.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol:

I take the first dose first thing in the morning. And 2nd dose after dinner

in evening around 7 pm.

Farah

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Carol Christie <carolch@...> wrote:

> Farah, when do you take your 2 doses of spiro?

> Carol

>

>

> Farah Rahbar wrote:

> >

> > I notice I sleep better when I take an extra 12.5 mgs/spiro daily. You

> can

> > give it a try. When I take 50 mgs of spiro daily(in two 25mgs doses),

> > my bp

> > remains around 120/80 but I tend to get up to go to the bathroom at least

> > once or twice at night. Once I go to the bathroom then I can't sleep and

> > have to stay up all night. Increasing the spiro by 1/2 pills twice a day

> > really helps in not going to the bathroom at night and also I tend to

> > actually sleep through the night.

> > Pehaps its the aldosterone that causes it and by taking the extra 1/2

> > spiro,

> > it is blocking the effects of spiro.

> > Dr. Grim, does this make any sense?

> >

> > Farah

> >

> > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Valarie

<val@...<val%40wyosip.com>

> > <mailto:val%40wyosip.com <val%2540wyosip.com>>> wrote:

> >

> > > Could you explain " this risk " ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Val

> > >

> > > From:

hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40>

> >

<mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40<hyperaldosteronism%2540groups.\

com>

> ><hyperaldosteronism%40>

> > >

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40>

> >

<mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40<hyperaldosteronism%2540groups.\

com>

> ><hyperaldosteronism%40>]

> > > On Behalf Of wallinglindac

> > >

> > > Thanks much for the info! I was thinking of asking for Ambien again;

> > > used it once for about a week several years ago and it really did help

> > > with the sleeping problems, but I don't want to take this risk.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Usually spiro can be taken once a day anytime but some tolerate it

better if the does is split.

Esp with GI problems from spiro-upset stomach or other GI Sx.

CE Grim MD

On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:17 AM, Carol Christie wrote:

> Farah, when do you take your 2 doses of spiro?

> Carol

>

> Farah Rahbar wrote:

> >

> > I notice I sleep better when I take an extra 12.5 mgs/spiro

> daily. You can

> > give it a try. When I take 50 mgs of spiro daily(in two 25mgs

> doses),

> > my bp

> > remains around 120/80 but I tend to get up to go to the bathroom

> at least

> > once or twice at night. Once I go to the bathroom then I can't

> sleep and

> > have to stay up all night. Increasing the spiro by 1/2 pills

> twice a day

> > really helps in not going to the bathroom at night and also I

> tend to

> > actually sleep through the night.

> > Pehaps its the aldosterone that causes it and by taking the extra

> 1/2

> > spiro,

> > it is blocking the effects of spiro.

> > Dr. Grim, does this make any sense?

> >

> > Farah

> >

> > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Valarie <val@...

> > <mailto:val%40wyosip.com>> wrote:

> >

> > > Could you explain " this risk " ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Val

> > >

> > > From: hyperaldosteronism

> > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40><hyperaldosteronism%

> 40>

> > > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism

> > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40><hyperaldosteronism%

> 40>]

> > > On Behalf Of wallinglindac

> > >

> > > Thanks much for the info! I was thinking of asking for Ambien

> again;

> > > used it once for about a week several years ago and it really

> did help

> > > with the sleeping problems, but I don't want to take this risk.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

But how many times do you get up a night to pee?

When do you take each med?

On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:29 AM, Carol Christie wrote:

> Dr Grim, I currently take 75mg spiro, 240mg verapamil, 150mg

> efexor. The

> problem seems less to do with urination - more that I have great

> difficulty falling asleep, and when I do, I can wake up shortly

> after in

> a state of alert.

> Carol

>

> Clarence Grim wrote:

> >

> > A major cause of this is having to get up to pee. How many times do

> > you do this?

> >

> > DASHing will likely help this as will spiro.

> >

> > What drugs are you on?

> >

> > Tell Dr. Stowasser I said hello-have missed him at several meetings

> > in last year.

> >

> > BTW I am in Glasgow today to train 6 UK sites in proper BP

> > measurement. Will inquire about interest in PA in these offices.

> >

> > Leave at noon on Saturday. Staying at the Menzies Hotel in Glasgow.

> >

> > Then will be in France for the week doing other Dr trainings on

> > proper BP. In France only the Drs take the BP it appears.

> >

> > On Dec 4, 2008, at 10:40 PM, carolch58 wrote:

> >

> > > Hello all, Just wondering if others here suffer from insomnia. I'm

> > > finding that it has gotten worse recently. I do have sleep

> apnoea and

> > > use a CPAP machine. I find it very difficult to get to sleep,

> and then

> > > continue to wake up during the night as if I have to be on the

> alert.

> > > It's exhausting - only a couple of hours sleep each night.

> > > Anyone aware of any links with PA?

> > > Anyone dealt with it successfully?

> > > Dr Grim, I finally have an appointment with Dr Stowasser in

> Brisbane

> > > next week.

> > > Carol (near Brisbane, Australia)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > May your pressure be low!

> >

> > ?

> >

> > CE Grim BS, MS, MD

> >

> > High Blood Pressure Consulting

> >

> > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Consulting

> > Inc.(sharedcareinc.com)

> >

> > Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine Medical and Cardiology

> > Medical College of Wisconsin

> >

> > Board certified in Internal Med, Geriatrics and Hypertension.

> >

> > Interests:

> > 1. Difficult to control high blood pressure.

> > 2. The effect of recent evolutionary forces on high blood pressure

> > in human populations.

> > 3. Improving blood pressure measurement in the office and out.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I wake up once a night to pee, about three times a night for reasons I

don't know.

I usually take all the meds together about 1pm.

Carol

Clarence Grim wrote:

>

> But how many times do you get up a night to pee?

>

> When do you take each med?

>

> On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:29 AM, Carol Christie wrote:

>

> > Dr Grim, I currently take 75mg spiro, 240mg verapamil, 150mg

> > efexor. The

> > problem seems less to do with urination - more that I have great

> > difficulty falling asleep, and when I do, I can wake up shortly

> > after in

> > a state of alert.

> > Carol

> >

> > Clarence Grim wrote:

> > >

> > > A major cause of this is having to get up to pee. How many times do

> > > you do this?

> > >

> > > DASHing will likely help this as will spiro.

> > >

> > > What drugs are you on?

> > >

> > > Tell Dr. Stowasser I said hello-have missed him at several meetings

> > > in last year.

> > >

> > > BTW I am in Glasgow today to train 6 UK sites in proper BP

> > > measurement. Will inquire about interest in PA in these offices.

> > >

> > > Leave at noon on Saturday. Staying at the Menzies Hotel in Glasgow.

> > >

> > > Then will be in France for the week doing other Dr trainings on

> > > proper BP. In France only the Drs take the BP it appears.

> > >

> > > On Dec 4, 2008, at 10:40 PM, carolch58 wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hello all, Just wondering if others here suffer from insomnia. I'm

> > > > finding that it has gotten worse recently. I do have sleep

> > apnoea and

> > > > use a CPAP machine. I find it very difficult to get to sleep,

> > and then

> > > > continue to wake up during the night as if I have to be on the

> > alert.

> > > > It's exhausting - only a couple of hours sleep each night.

> > > > Anyone aware of any links with PA?

> > > > Anyone dealt with it successfully?

> > > > Dr Grim, I finally have an appointment with Dr Stowasser in

> > Brisbane

> > > > next week.

> > > > Carol (near Brisbane, Australia)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > May your pressure be low!

> > >

> > > ?

> > >

> > > CE Grim BS, MS, MD

> > >

> > > High Blood Pressure Consulting

> > >

> > > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Consulting

> > > Inc.(sharedcareinc.com)

> > >

> > > Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine Medical and Cardiology

> > > Medical College of Wisconsin

> > >

> > > Board certified in Internal Med, Geriatrics and Hypertension.

> > >

> > > Interests:

> > > 1. Difficult to control high blood pressure.

> > > 2. The effect of recent evolutionary forces on high blood pressure

> > > in human populations.

> > > 3. Improving blood pressure measurement in the office and out.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

yes, you are right. I was started on 100 mgs every morning but over time I

learned my body tolerates it better when I take it in smaller doses. After

about a year, I actually didn't need the high doze any more and could reduce

it to take 75mgs/day in two dozes.

The recommended dose for spiro is that it be taken before 6:00 pm since it

is a diuretic but as a PA patient I notice even when I take it late before

bedtime, my body tolerates it just fine.

Farah

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> wrote:

> Usually spiro can be taken once a day anytime but some tolerate it

> better if the does is split.

> Esp with GI problems from spiro-upset stomach or other GI Sx.

>

> CE Grim MD

>

> On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:17 AM, Carol Christie wrote:

>

> > Farah, when do you take your 2 doses of spiro?

> > Carol

> >

> > Farah Rahbar wrote:

> > >

> > > I notice I sleep better when I take an extra 12.5 mgs/spiro

> > daily. You can

> > > give it a try. When I take 50 mgs of spiro daily(in two 25mgs

> > doses),

> > > my bp

> > > remains around 120/80 but I tend to get up to go to the bathroom

> > at least

> > > once or twice at night. Once I go to the bathroom then I can't

> > sleep and

> > > have to stay up all night. Increasing the spiro by 1/2 pills

> > twice a day

> > > really helps in not going to the bathroom at night and also I

> > tend to

> > > actually sleep through the night.

> > > Pehaps its the aldosterone that causes it and by taking the extra

> > 1/2

> > > spiro,

> > > it is blocking the effects of spiro.

> > > Dr. Grim, does this make any sense?

> > >

> > > Farah

> > >

> > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Valarie

<val@...<val%40wyosip.com>

> > > <mailto:val%40wyosip.com <val%2540wyosip.com>>> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Could you explain " this risk " ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Val

> > > >

> > > > From:

hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40>

> > >

<mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40<hyperaldosteronism%2540groups.\

com>><hyperaldosteronism%

>

> > 40>

> > > >

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40>

> > >

<mailto:hyperaldosteronism%40<hyperaldosteronism%2540groups.\

com>><hyperaldosteronism%

>

> > 40>]

> > > > On Behalf Of wallinglindac

> > > >

> > > > Thanks much for the info! I was thinking of asking for Ambien

> > again;

> > > > used it once for about a week several years ago and it really

> > did help

> > > > with the sleeping problems, but I don't want to take this risk.

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

in contrast to most diruetics its time of onset is slow and one does

not ususally get a burst in urine output after taking except when

first starting.

Would be interested in others experiences.

CE Grim MD

On Dec 7, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Farah Rahbar wrote:

> yes, you are right. I was started on 100 mgs every morning but over

> time I

> learned my body tolerates it better when I take it in smaller

> doses. After

> about a year, I actually didn't need the high doze any more and

> could reduce

> it to take 75mgs/day in two dozes.

>

> The recommended dose for spiro is that it be taken before 6:00 pm

> since it

> is a diuretic but as a PA patient I notice even when I take it late

> before

> bedtime, my body tolerates it just fine.

>

> Farah

>

> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Usually spiro can be taken once a day anytime but some tolerate it

> > better if the does is split.

> > Esp with GI problems from spiro-upset stomach or other GI Sx.

> >

> > CE Grim MD

> >

> > On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:17 AM, Carol Christie wrote:

> >

> > > Farah, when do you take your 2 doses of spiro?

> > > Carol

> > >

> > > Farah Rahbar wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I notice I sleep better when I take an extra 12.5 mgs/spiro

> > > daily. You can

> > > > give it a try. When I take 50 mgs of spiro daily(in two 25mgs

> > > doses),

> > > > my bp

> > > > remains around 120/80 but I tend to get up to go to the bathroom

> > > at least

> > > > once or twice at night. Once I go to the bathroom then I can't

> > > sleep and

> > > > have to stay up all night. Increasing the spiro by 1/2 pills

> > > twice a day

> > > > really helps in not going to the bathroom at night and also I

> > > tend to

> > > > actually sleep through the night.

> > > > Pehaps its the aldosterone that causes it and by taking the

> extra

> > > 1/2

> > > > spiro,

> > > > it is blocking the effects of spiro.

> > > > Dr. Grim, does this make any sense?

> > > >

> > > > Farah

> > > >

> > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Valarie

> <val@...<val%40wyosip.com>

> > > > <mailto:val%40wyosip.com <val%2540wyosip.com>>> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Could you explain " this risk " ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Val

> > > > >

> > > > > From: hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%

> 40>

> > > > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%

> 40<hyperaldosteronism%

> 2540>><hyperaldosteronism%

> >

> > > 40>

> > > > >

> [mailto:hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%

> 40>

> > > > <mailto:hyperaldosteronism%

> 40<hyperaldosteronism%

> 2540>><hyperaldosteronism%

> >

> > > 40>]

> > > > > On Behalf Of wallinglindac

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks much for the info! I was thinking of asking for Ambien

> > > again;

> > > > > used it once for about a week several years ago and it really

> > > did help

> > > > > with the sleeping problems, but I don't want to take this

> risk.

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric bypass,

as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and now

find it extremely hard to lose weight.

Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended or

did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition intake,

hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

sue

> Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass in

> 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about 2AM.

I

> still only get about 6 hours per night.

[Guest guest]

Wow. There is probably not room here to answer your questions.

However, the weight gain was a combination of things for me ...

heredity, age, career choice and more. What prompted my to have

gastric bypass? Diabetes, Sleep apnea, diabetes, heart disease (and

other?). It IS A VERY BIG DECISION though. You do lose weight and

your overall health will generally improve if you take care of

yourself. you do have to supplement many things. Do a lot of

research. There are many support groups that can be of help. You

cannot take NSAIDS (asprin, advil, etc) after this surgery. Gastric

bypass had no affect on my aldesterone levels. Nutrition wise, the

biggest issue is protein intake. You pretty much have to use

supplemental protein (whey is good) and you have to avoid certain

foods ... sugar & milk are two things you cannot ever eat again

without risk of getting ill.

~Dave

>

> Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

> been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric

bypass,

> as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and

now

> find it extremely hard to lose weight.

>

> Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended

or

> did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition

intake,

> hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

>

> Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> sue

>

> > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass

in

> > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about

2AM.

> I

> > still only get about 6 hours per night.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the reply.  Is weight gain a typical issue with spironolactone

use?

I haven't seen it listed as a side effect, but the muscular aching has destroyed

my chances of being able to exercise as I used to - I'm finding it hard to walk

for any length of time.  I thought the surgery might help me lighten my load -

the specialist I'm seeing won't allow me to use Craig, weight watchers,

etc. - he feels I would be robbed of valuable nutrients - and now I'm frustrated

Sue

________________________________

From: bigdogdkiedrow <bigdogdkiedrow@...>

hyperaldosteronism

Sent: Saturday, 13 December, 2008 3:05:47 PM

Subject: Re: Insomnia

Wow. There is probably not room here to answer your questions.

However, the weight gain was a combination of things for me ...

heredity, age, career choice and more. What prompted my to have

gastric bypass? Diabetes, Sleep apnea, diabetes, heart disease (and

other?). It IS A VERY BIG DECISION though. You do lose weight and

your overall health will generally improve if you take care of

yourself. you do have to supplement many things. Do a lot of

research. There are many support groups that can be of help. You

cannot take NSAIDS (asprin, advil, etc) after this surgery. Gastric

bypass had no affect on my aldesterone levels. Nutrition wise, the

biggest issue is protein intake. You pretty much have to use

supplemental protein (whey is good) and you have to avoid certain

foods ... sugar & milk are two things you cannot ever eat again

without risk of getting ill.

~Dave

>

> Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

> been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric

bypass,

> as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and

now

> find it extremely hard to lose weight.

>

> Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended

or

> did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition

intake,

> hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

>

> Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> sue

>

> > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass

in

> > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about

2AM.

> I

> > still only get about 6 hours per night.

>

Easy recipes for Christmas entertaining on Xtra Lifestyle-

http://nz.lifestyle./food-recipes

[Guest guest]

You would be robbed of more nutrients with gastric bypass. My weight

gain was not from spiro or inspra. Just age, genetics, bad diet,

sedentary job.

~Dave K

> >

> > Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I

have

> > been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric

> bypass,

> > as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and

> now

> > find it extremely hard to lose weight.

> >

> > Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended

> or

> > did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition

> intake,

> > hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

> >

> > Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> > sue

> >

> > > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass

> in

> > > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about

> 2AM.

> > I

> > > still only get about 6 hours per night.

> >

>

>

>

>

> Easy recipes for Christmas entertaining on Xtra

Lifestyle- http://nz.lifestyle./food-recipes

>

>

[Guest guest]

The secret to losing weight is to eat

Less and exercise more

I have had pts lose 80 lbs on the DASH diet

Sent from my iPhone

CE Grim MD

On Dec 12, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Sue <marysuehopper@...> wrote:

> Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

> been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric bypass,

> as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and now

> find it extremely hard to lose weight.

>

> Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended or

> did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition intake,

> hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

>

> Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> sue

>

> > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass in

> > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about 2AM.

> I

> > still only get about 6 hours per night.

>

>

[Guest guest]

As far as I know WW and JC provide the needed nutrients ESP if you

take a one a day MV

Sent from my iPhone

CE Grim MD

On Dec 13, 2008, at 9:24 PM, bigdogdkiedrow <bigdogdkiedrow@...>

wrote:

> You would be robbed of more nutrients with gastric bypass. My weight

> gain was not from spiro or inspra. Just age, genetics, bad diet,

> sedentary job.

>

> ~Dave K

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I

> have

> > > been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric

> > bypass,

> > > as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and

> > now

> > > find it extremely hard to lose weight.

> > >

> > > Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended

> > or

> > > did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition

> > intake,

> > > hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

> > >

> > > Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> > > sue

> > >

> > > > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass

> > in

> > > > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about

> > 2AM.

> > > I

> > > > still only get about 6 hours per night.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Easy recipes for Christmas entertaining on Xtra

> Lifestyle- http://nz.lifestyle./food-recipes

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Eat less exercise more is the only way to lose at

Easy in concept hard in execution

Sent from my iPhone

CE Grim MD

On Dec 12, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Sue <marysuehopper@...> wrote:

> Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

> been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric bypass,

> as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and now

> find it extremely hard to lose weight.

>

> Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended or

> did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition intake,

> hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

>

> Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> sue

>

> > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass in

> > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about 2AM.

> I

> > still only get about 6 hours per night.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Before PA diagnosis, I was a personal trainer. Ran 5 miles a day and taught

yoga and other fitness classes. It was very tough to get back on track and I

no longer teach and have since changed my work career.

After PA, I find it hard to keep the descipline. There are days that my

muscles are just so painful and I feel very tired. I have to constantly keep

the focus to continue with the exercise and not lose track. I follow the

dash diet and make it a point to exercise double the time when I miss a day

or two due to fatique,.. life goes on and so must we.

We should be greatful that there is a diagnosis and we are not given a life

sentense.

And, here is a high potassium low fat breakfast:

1/2 cup regular plain yogurt (mountain high brand is quite good)

1/2 cup orange juice

1/2 banana

1/2 cup frozen berries

Put all the ingredients in the blender and blend together, then drink it . I

just wish somehow we could add the protein amount.

Good Health,

Farah

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Lowerbp2 <lowerbp2@...> wrote:

> The secret to losing weight is to eat

> Less and exercise more

>

> I have had pts lose 80 lbs on the DASH diet

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> CE Grim MD

>

> On Dec 12, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Sue

<marysuehopper@...<marysuehopper%40.co.nz>>

> wrote:

>

> > Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

> > been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric bypass,

> > as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and now

> > find it extremely hard to lose weight.

> >

> > Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended or

> > did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition intake,

> > hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

> >

> > Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> > sue

> >

> > > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass in

> > > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about 2AM.

> > I

> > > still only get about 6 hours per night.

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm happy that this worked for you.  I am eating less than I did before I had

my diagnosis, I am walking anywhere from 8 - 10 kms a day, depending on how

tired I am when I get home from work, and I'm still gaining.  I assumed it was

a side effect from the medication.

Sue

________________________________

From: Lowerbp2 <lowerbp2@...>

" hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >

Sent: Monday, 15 December, 2008 12:44:37 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Insomnia

Eat less exercise more is the only way to lose at

Easy in concept hard in execution

Sent from my iPhone

CE Grim MD

On Dec 12, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Sue <marysuehopper@ .co. nz> wrote:

> Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

> been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric bypass,

> as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and now

> find it extremely hard to lose weight.

>

> Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended or

> did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition intake,

> hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

>

> Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> sue

>

> > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass in

> > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about 2AM.

> I

> > still only get about 6 hours per night.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue:

Has your doctor checked you for thyroid? It could be that your metabolism

has really slowed down due to a thyroid problem.

Farah

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:31 AM, marysue hopper

<marysuehopper@...>wrote:

> I'm happy that this worked for you. I am eating less than I did before

> I had my diagnosis, I am walking anywhere from 8 - 10 kms a day, depending

> on how tired I am when I get home from work, and I'm still gaining. I

> assumed it was a side effect from the medication.

>

> Sue

>

> ________________________________

> From: Lowerbp2 <lowerbp2@... <lowerbp2%40mac.com>>

> " hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40> "

> <hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40>

> >

> Sent: Monday, 15 December, 2008 12:44:37 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Insomnia

>

> Eat less exercise more is the only way to lose at

> Easy in concept hard in execution

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> CE Grim MD

>

> On Dec 12, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Sue <marysuehopper@ .co. nz> wrote:

>

> > Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

> > been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric bypass,

> > as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and now

> > find it extremely hard to lose weight.

> >

> > Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended or

> > did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition intake,

> > hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

> >

> > Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> > sue

> >

> > > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass in

> > > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about 2AM.

> > I

> > > still only get about 6 hours per night.

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

No you are eating more than you are burning.

CE Grim MD

On Dec 15, 2008, at 6:31 PM, marysue hopper wrote:

> I'm happy that this worked for you. I am eating less than I did

> before I had my diagnosis, I am walking anywhere from 8 - 10 kms a

> day, depending on how tired I am when I get home from work, and I'm

> still gaining. I assumed it was a side effect from the medication.

>

> Sue

>

> ________________________________

> From: Lowerbp2 <lowerbp2@...>

> " hyperaldosteronism "

> <hyperaldosteronism >

> Sent: Monday, 15 December, 2008 12:44:37 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Insomnia

>

> Eat less exercise more is the only way to lose at

> Easy in concept hard in execution

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> CE Grim MD

>

> On Dec 12, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Sue <marysuehopper@ .co. nz>

> wrote:

>

> > Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

> > been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric

> bypass,

> > as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and

> now

> > find it extremely hard to lose weight.

> >

> > Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended or

> > did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition

> intake,

> > hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

> >

> > Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> > sue

> >

> > > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass in

> > > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about

> 2AM.

> > I

> > > still only get about 6 hours per night.

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Farah,

He's checking my thyroid with blood tests at the moment - so far nothing

Sue

________________________________

From: Farah Rahbar <farahbar@...>

hyperaldosteronism

Sent: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008 6:54:45 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Insomnia

Hi Sue:

Has your doctor checked you for thyroid? It could be that your metabolism

has really slowed down due to a thyroid problem.

Farah

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:31 AM, marysue hopper

<marysuehopper@ .co. nz>wrote:

> I'm happy that this worked for you. I am eating less than I did before

> I had my diagnosis, I am walking anywhere from 8 - 10 kms a day, depending

> on how tired I am when I get home from work, and I'm still gaining. I

> assumed it was a side effect from the medication.

>

> Sue

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Lowerbp2 <lowerbp2mac (DOT) com <lowerbp2%40mac. com>>

> " hyperaldosteronism<hyperaldosteronism %40groups.

com> "

> <hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism %40groups. com>

> >

> Sent: Monday, 15 December, 2008 12:44:37 PM

> Subject: Re: [hyperaldosteronism ] Re: Insomnia

>

> Eat less exercise more is the only way to lose at

> Easy in concept hard in execution

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> CE Grim MD

>

> On Dec 12, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Sue <marysuehopper@ .co. nz> wrote:

>

> > Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

> > been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric bypass,

> > as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and now

> > find it extremely hard to lose weight.

> >

> > Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended or

> > did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition intake,

> > hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

> >

> > Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> > sue

> >

> > > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass in

> > > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about 2AM.

> > I

> > > still only get about 6 hours per night.

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue:

From what I have learned, your thyroid may look normal according to lab

ranges. But it is best to compare with an older result that you may have had

in the past couple of years to see if there has been a change from your

previous results(if you have done any such tests in the past) and to find

out if you are having a sluggish thyroid.

Best,

Farah

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM, marysue hopper

<marysuehopper@...>wrote:

> Hi Farah,

> He's checking my thyroid with blood tests at the moment - so far nothing

> Sue

>

> ________________________________

> From: Farah Rahbar <farahbar@... <farahbar%40gmail.com>>

> hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40>

> Sent: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008 6:54:45 AM

>

> Subject: Re: Re: Insomnia

>

> Hi Sue:

> Has your doctor checked you for thyroid? It could be that your metabolism

> has really slowed down due to a thyroid problem.

>

> Farah

>

> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:31 AM, marysue hopper

> <marysuehopper@ .co. nz>wrote:

>

> > I'm happy that this worked for you. I am eating less than I did before

> > I had my diagnosis, I am walking anywhere from 8 - 10 kms a day,

> depending

> > on how tired I am when I get home from work, and I'm still gaining. I

> > assumed it was a side effect from the medication.

> >

> > Sue

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Lowerbp2 <lowerbp2mac (DOT) com <lowerbp2%40mac. com>>

> > " hyperaldosteronism<hyperaldosteronism

> %40groups. com> "

> > <hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism

> %40groups. com>

> > >

> > Sent: Monday, 15 December, 2008 12:44:37 PM

> > Subject: Re: [hyperaldosteronism ] Re: Insomnia

> >

> > Eat less exercise more is the only way to lose at

> > Easy in concept hard in execution

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> >

> > CE Grim MD

> >

> > On Dec 12, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Sue <marysuehopper@ .co. nz>

> wrote:

> >

> > > Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

> > > been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric bypass,

> > > as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and now

> > > find it extremely hard to lose weight.

> > >

> > > Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended or

> > > did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition intake,

> > > hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

> > >

> > > Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> > > sue

> > >

> > > > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass in

> > > > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about 2AM.

> > > I

> > > > still only get about 6 hours per night.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you Farah, I'll ask them to check, I'm fairly certain the records they

have for me would have had a check for thyroid hormones somewhere along the

line.

Sue

________________________________

From: Farah Rahbar <farahbar@...>

hyperaldosteronism

Sent: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 1:24:03 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Insomnia

Hi Sue:

From what I have learned, your thyroid may look normal according to lab

ranges. But it is best to compare with an older result that you may have had

in the past couple of years to see if there has been a change from your

previous results(if you have done any such tests in the past) and to find

out if you are having a sluggish thyroid.

Best,

Farah

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM, marysue hopper

<marysuehopper@ .co. nz>wrote:

> Hi Farah,

> He's checking my thyroid with blood tests at the moment - so far nothing

> Sue

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Farah Rahbar <farahbargmail (DOT) com <farahbar%40gmail. com>>

> hyperaldosteronism<hyperaldosteronism %40groups.

com>

> Sent: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008 6:54:45 AM

>

> Subject: Re: [hyperaldosteronism ] Re: Insomnia

>

> Hi Sue:

> Has your doctor checked you for thyroid? It could be that your metabolism

> has really slowed down due to a thyroid problem.

>

> Farah

>

> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:31 AM, marysue hopper

> <marysuehopper@ .co. nz>wrote:

>

> > I'm happy that this worked for you. I am eating less than I did before

> > I had my diagnosis, I am walking anywhere from 8 - 10 kms a day,

> depending

> > on how tired I am when I get home from work, and I'm still gaining. I

> > assumed it was a side effect from the medication.

> >

> > Sue

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Lowerbp2 <lowerbp2mac (DOT) com <lowerbp2%40mac. com>>

> > " hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteron ism

> %40groups. com> "

> > <hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism

> %40groups. com>

> > >

> > Sent: Monday, 15 December, 2008 12:44:37 PM

> > Subject: Re: [hyperaldosteronism ] Re: Insomnia

> >

> > Eat less exercise more is the only way to lose at

> > Easy in concept hard in execution

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> >

> > CE Grim MD

> >

> > On Dec 12, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Sue <marysuehopper@ .co. nz>

> wrote:

> >

> > > Hi There, I'm new to the forum but this post caught my eye. I have

> > > been asking my endochrinologist about a referral for a gastric bypass,

> > > as less than two years ago I weighed a quite normal 73 kilos, and now

> > > find it extremely hard to lose weight.

> > >

> > > Was weight gain a side effect for you? Was the bypass recommended or

> > > did you elect to go that route? What's the risk with nutrition intake,

> > > hyperaldosteronism and gastric bypass? Any ideas.

> > >

> > > Thanks for answers if anyone has any.

> > > sue

> > >

> > > > Yes. Always have. It has gotten much worse since gastric bypass in

> > > > 2005. I take 1/3rd Ambien at bedtime and another 1/3rd at about 2AM.

> > > I

> > > > still only get about 6 hours per night.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sondra, as I have entered my 40's I find I can not sleep just as my monthly

begins. It takes 2-3 days for me to finally get back on schedule. Thank

goodness, I can spend the night reading and writing. Last night, Bells must have

been a little hormonal herself. She was wide awake until 4am. I am so very

grateful that my H takes over the morning shift so I can catch up on my sleep.

He had a meeting this morning, so Katy took the helm and did a wonderful job

letting me sleep in until 11am. ~~~Aggy

Subject: insomnia

To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 3:07 PM

I to think much woman here had of insomnia last night because we were of all on

late late into the night and then up early this day still here playing to words

and such... it makes me not feel so alone to this nights of no sleep/

sondra