Guest guest Posted April 23, 1999 Report Share Posted April 23, 1999 Hi , I'll send you the latest info on Squalene from Schuster & Meryl Nass as well as Insight article, GAO document info. Hopefully Gretchen or Lori will send you some other info right away. Sheri At 01:53 PM 4/23/99 EDT, you wrote: >From: JC30650@... > >My name is , and my fiancee is active duty Air Force. Her squadron has >been recieving that vaccine for the past 2 weeks. She was scheduled for her >first injection today, but yesterday went to them and subitmitted a written >refusal. They are now in the process of putting her through " counseling " in >an attempt to get her to submit to the vaccine. She is scheduled to meet w/ >an " expert " on the vaccine in a very short while, and we would like to have >strong evidence to back up her decision. I read the Vanity Fair article last >night, and she will be taking that with her, but further explaination into >exactly what squaline is and what it's used for.. it's effects and any >current active duty personnel that have been vaccinated and recently tested >postive for it would be of great assistance to us. Thank you!! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA wwithin@... Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours Nevada City California http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Weekend Wellness Retreats, Workshops, Homestudy Courses, Homeopathic Education, Vaccine Dangers Information/Workshops CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Coordinator for Western Nevada County Y2k Preparedness Network Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 HELP! I take the twins in for their Kindergarten exam next week. Does anyone have any good advice for communicating with my doctor? I do not want the twins vaccinated before kindergarten! I would sign the religious exemption, but I am leaning toward the tetanus vaccine since I've not had anyone come up with valid reasons not to, and I live in a rural area with lots of manure. There's a corn field right next to my house, and no telling what the farmers have put in that field. Should I sign a religious exemption? Or take another approach? HELP!! Karla in Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 There are some parents I have heard of who sign a religious exemption but then go out of state, and pay cash to get the tetanus vaccine. Not saying you should do it...just sharing what some parents have told me they have done. By doing this there is no record of the vaccine and hence no problem with the religious exemption.... When parents are put in impossible situations they will do anything. selahdream@... wrote: > > HELP! > I take the twins in for their Kindergarten exam next week. Does anyone have > any good advice for communicating with my doctor? I do not want the twins > vaccinated before kindergarten! I would sign the religious exemption, but I > am leaning toward the tetanus vaccine since I've not had anyone come up with > valid reasons not to, and I live in a rural area with lots of manure. > There's a corn field right next to my house, and no telling what the farmers > have put in that field. > Should I sign a religious exemption? Or take another approach? HELP!! > Karla in Indiana > > -- @... *************************************************************** Any information obtained here is not to be construed as medical OR legal advice. The decision to vaccinate and how you implement that decision is yours and yours alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 Starr wrote: > Help. I put my bath salts in zip lock bags for samples and they are loosing > their scent, why? I made sure all the air was out of the bag. Is it the scent > or the zip lock bag?? It's probably the bag. While the bags are intended to keep foods fresher, they are not absolutely air-tight. Air, and therefore scent, can pass through microscopic " pores " in the bag. I'm not sure how you're giving out your samples, but if you have a booth-type setup, what you might try doing is this: Have several large jars of prepared jars with each jar a different scent. Ask people if they would like a free sample, and when they say yes, ask which scent they would like and scoop it from the jar into a bag. Or you could try using small test tubes with cork closures. You should be able to find ones that will hold maybe enough for one bath at stores (online and offline) that sell scientific stuff. I can't remember the name right off hand, but I've seen a store in malls that carried all sorts of nature and science stuff, including test tubes and holders. It would be worth checking out. Hope this helps. NightShade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 Dear Moonbeam, Can you tell me what the protocols are again. .. I don't have them. Thanks a lot. Melinda C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 cures for cancer From: poldiv17@... Date sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:01:03 EDT Send reply to: cures for cancer Subject: Help! > Hi Group, > I recently found out that a fellow co-worker, 32 year old female,mother > one, has a large tumor 6-7 cm in one of her breasts. Is there anything that might reduce the size of this > tumor? > Melinda C. Hi Melinda, See if you can find a sympathetic doctor to perform ultrasound guided hot saline/ethanol injection directly into the tumor. Several injections would likely see complete resolution of the tumor. If it were me I would also implement the 4 step protocol to prevent and stop metastasis, which in fact has probably allready begun. If possible I would also try and follow Protocol 1. moonbeam > > --part1_3d.e7fac8e.2885ad2f_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR= " #ffffff " ><FONT SIZE=2>Hi > Group, <BR>I recently found out that a fellow co-worker, 32 year old > female,mother one, <BR>has a large tumor 6-7 cm in one of her breasts. > & nbsp;I do not know if there is <BR>cancer in her family history and it is > unknown at this time if this is even <BR>malignant. & nbsp;She is going to > be scheduled for surgery. & nbsp;Does anyone have any <BR>ideas, thoughts > or comments on what can be done at this point in time? & nbsp;Is <BR>there > anything that might reduce the size of this tumor? <BR> <BR>Any guidance > would be appreciated. <BR>Melinda C.</FONT> > > <br> > <tt> > Get HUGE info at <a > href= " http://www.cures for cancer.ws, " >http://www.cures for cancer.ws,</a> and post > your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to > cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting <a > href= " http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv " >http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub. > mv</a></tt> <br> > > <br> > <tt> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 Unless you can get power of attorney, there is probably nothing you can do. Only way to get that is to go to court. I would have to ask if it is in the best interest of your mother. If she is not in a lot of pain, then maybe it would be. If she is in pain and her cancer is as late stage as it sounds, then maybe grief counseling would be in line here. Sometimes one has to let go. Perhaps you have a chapter of The Wellness Community near you that you could contact that can help you sort things out. Check your local phone book or internet. Melinda Wiman www.cancure.org Cancer Cure Foundation help! Hello, everybody, i wanted to share with you the continuing saga with my mother--the lates is that I am no longer allowed to visit my mother full tie--they have 24 hr; visitation and I am no longer allowed to give her supplements, because she may choke! She has only one position, sitting up and I walked in to see her the other night and she was resistant to taking their medication, so ofcourse a bit to me, and then the other morning, she fell asleep while eating, when I was giving her her supplements--CAN YOU IMAGINE this, being escorted out of visiting your mother by a securityguard, esp afte 2 weeks? She is so sedated, it is pathetic, everybody who sees her says so, except my father and the staff--she doesn't even know her .name. My mother has everyorgan functioning in her body--she cold be helped, and I am faced with a father who believes he has done all for her, that he has exhausted all the avenues available to him, whenin fact he hs taken the path of least resistance? our family is the 3 of us,jsut my mother my fathe and myself, and now noone can speak for my poor mother, as he is the decision maker! I phoned a couple of tv stations, but wuld they really be interrested in anything like this? for me, it points exactly to the need for healthcare reform, and focuses on the dying patient,s rights--she wants nothing more to come home when she is lucid, and also shows us how far we have to go in cancer education. More than that, though, for me this is a horror, i can not even be of help to my mother when she needs me, and as another wrote, the cancer is in the family, and in the society. DOES ANYONE HAVE any ideas how to combat this, legally, etcetc? I asked yesterday, and there have not been any answers. thank you, Carole Seidelman Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Forwarded to the list - I gave her some names of quality homeopaths to see immediately. Give her support! Sheri >Hey, I was a member, but then I changed my email, and I just had to post this, so could you post this for me after I am reconfirmed? Thanks for your trouble! > >Hey, my name is heather, and I am maybe a little paranoid, but I have decided not to vaccinate my son, and currently he is sick with possibly whooping cough, he is doing fine, but I worry that if I need to take him to a doctor that I could loose him for negligence. The last time that my son has been to a doctor, he was 8 months he is now 14. The doctor that I had gone to had told my husband and I that we were making a stupid decision, and if we did not vaccinate him not to come back, and proceeded to storm out of the room. I just haven't had the guts to go again, I am afraid to go to a doctor, (this guy had been the 5th doctor that my son had seen each time we had been accused of ignorance for our decision.) I don't have the faintest idea on how to find a decent doctor that will respect our decisions. I just need to know that I am not the only one out there. I would rather not be put into a situation of such emotional distraught again, but I just don't know what to do. Thanks for reading my ranting. > > aspiring_midwife@... > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 I discovered a lot about doctors through phone interviews. You do not have to tell them who you are just ask the questions. Call the office and tell whomever answers the phone that you are looking for a doctor. Ask them what their vaccine policy is. Do not tell them that you do not vaccinate or that you do not like vaccines, just ask them what their policies are. If they do not mention exemptions, ask them do they honor exemptions. If they act wierd or say anything darogatory, do not go. The person I go to is a nurse practioner. When she brought up vaccines, I told her that we have an exemption. She said to give her a copy to put on file and that was the end of it. Never heard anything else about it. But, I agree with Sherri. Try to see a homeopath. But you still need to find a regular doctor. There are some instances such as sports tryouts where they require physicals and such by a liscensed physician. But you do not have to take the child regularly. Just go once and keep the number around in case you need it. >From: Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> >Reply-Vaccinations >vaccinations >Subject: Re: Help! >Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 21:13:33 +0100 > >Forwarded to the list - I gave her some names of quality homeopaths to see >immediately. Give her support! >Sheri > > >Hey, I was a member, but then I changed my email, and I just had to post >this, so could you post this for me after I am reconfirmed? Thanks for your >trouble! > > > >Hey, my name is heather, and I am maybe a little paranoid, but I have >decided not to vaccinate my son, and currently he is sick with possibly >whooping cough, he is doing fine, but I worry that if I need to take him to >a doctor that I could loose him for negligence. The last time that my son >has been to a doctor, he was 8 months he is now 14. The doctor that I had >gone to had told my husband and I that we were making a stupid decision, >and if we did not vaccinate him not to come back, and proceeded to storm >out of the room. I just haven't had the guts to go again, I am afraid to go >to a doctor, (this guy had been the 5th doctor that my son had seen each >time we had been accused of ignorance for our decision.) I don't have the >faintest idea on how to find a decent doctor that will respect our >decisions. I just need to know that I am not the only one out there. I >would rather not be put into a situation of such emotional distraught >again, but I just don't know what to do. Thanks for reading my ranting. > > > > >aspiring_midwife@... > > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK >530-740-0561 Voicemail in US >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & >women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE >DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. >Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin >International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers >Education, Homeopathic Education >CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 what about call display? I may be paranoid, but I don't like the fact that they may know who is calling. Kathy > > I discovered a lot about doctors through phone interviews. You do not have > to tell them who you are just ask the questions. Call the office and tell > whomever answers the phone that you are looking for a doctor. Ask them what > their vaccine policy is. Do not tell them that you do not vaccinate or that > you do not like vaccines, just ask them what their policies are. If they > do not mention exemptions, ask them do they honor exemptions. If they act > wierd or say anything darogatory, do not go. The person I go to is a nurse > practioner. When she brought up vaccines, I told her that we have an > exemption. She said to give her a copy to put on file and that was the end > of it. Never heard anything else about it. > > But, I agree with Sherri. Try to see a homeopath. But you still need to > find a regular doctor. There are some instances such as sports tryouts > where they require physicals and such by a liscensed physician. But you do > not have to take the child regularly. Just go once and keep the number > around in case you need it. > > >From: Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> > >Reply-Vaccinations > >vaccinations > >Subject: Re: Help! > >Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 21:13:33 +0100 > > > >Forwarded to the list - I gave her some names of quality homeopaths to see > >immediately. Give her support! > >Sheri > > > > >Hey, I was a member, but then I changed my email, and I just had to post > >this, so could you post this for me after I am reconfirmed? Thanks for your > >trouble! > > > > > >Hey, my name is heather, and I am maybe a little paranoid, but I have > >decided not to vaccinate my son, and currently he is sick with possibly > >whooping cough, he is doing fine, but I worry that if I need to take him to > >a doctor that I could loose him for negligence. The last time that my son > >has been to a doctor, he was 8 months he is now 14. The doctor that I had > >gone to had told my husband and I that we were making a stupid decision, > >and if we did not vaccinate him not to come back, and proceeded to storm > >out of the room. I just haven't had the guts to go again, I am afraid to go > >to a doctor, (this guy had been the 5th doctor that my son had seen each > >time we had been accused of ignorance for our decision.) I don't have the > >faintest idea on how to find a decent doctor that will respect our > >decisions. I just need to know that I am not the only one out there. I > >would rather not be put into a situation of such emotional distraught > >again, but I just don't know what to do. Thanks for reading my ranting. > > > > > > > >aspiring_midwife@... > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------- > >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK > >530-740-0561 Voicemail in US > >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > > " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & > >women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke > >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE > >DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > >Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours > >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > >International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers > >Education, Homeopathic Education > >CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Get caller ID blocking. Sheri At 02:37 PM 10/12/2001 -0400, you wrote: >what about call display? I may be paranoid, but I don't like the fact >that they may know who is calling. Kathy > > > >> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 At 05:41 PM 10/12/2001 +0000, you wrote: > >I discovered a lot about doctors through phone interviews. You do not have >to tell them who you are just ask the questions. Call the office and tell >whomever answers the phone that you are looking for a doctor. Ask them what >their vaccine policy is. Do not tell them that you do not vaccinate or that >you do not like vaccines, just ask them what their policies are. If they >do not mention exemptions, ask them do they honor exemptions. If they act >wierd or say anything darogatory, do not go. The person I go to is a nurse >practioner. When she brought up vaccines, I told her that we have an >exemption. She said to give her a copy to put on file and that was the end >of it. Never heard anything else about it. > >But, I agree with Sherri. Try to see a homeopath. But you still need to >find a regular doctor. I don't agree that you still need a regular doctor. Best to avoid them There are some instances such as sports tryouts >where they require physicals and such by a liscensed physician. Arrangements can be made at the time - many options usually. And many times the homeopath will do! > Forwarded to the list - I gave her some names of quality homeopaths to see >>immediately. Give her support! >>Sheri >> >> >Hey, I was a member, but then I changed my email, and I just had to post >>this, so could you post this for me after I am reconfirmed? Thanks for your >>trouble! >> > >> >Hey, my name is heather, and I am maybe a little paranoid, but I have >>decided not to vaccinate my son, and currently he is sick with possibly >>whooping cough, he is doing fine, but I worry that if I need to take him to >>a doctor that I could loose him for negligence. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 So, what if they know who you are? They cannot bother you for asking questions. Anyway, they have more things to do than to worry about every person who calls them. The best thing to do is not to volunteer information to anyone who is fanatical about the whole vaccine issue. For instance, we decided not to tell my mother in law any more information. She is very panic-y and is the type who would call CPS. You have to be smart, but you can't worry about every littel thing. Anyway, as far as people knowing who you are, e-mail is never private. >From: " K & T " <kcumming@...> >Reply-Vaccinations ><Vaccinations > >Subject: Re: Re: Help! >Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:37:47 -0400 > >what about call display? I may be paranoid, but I don't like the fact >that they may know who is calling. Kathy > > > > > > > I discovered a lot about doctors through phone interviews. You do not >have > > to tell them who you are just ask the questions. Call the office and >tell > > whomever answers the phone that you are looking for a doctor. Ask >them what > > their vaccine policy is. Do not tell them that you do not vaccinate >or that > > you do not like vaccines, just ask them what their policies are. If >they > > do not mention exemptions, ask them do they honor exemptions. If they >act > > wierd or say anything darogatory, do not go. The person I go to is a >nurse > > practioner. When she brought up vaccines, I told her that we have an > > exemption. She said to give her a copy to put on file and that was the >end > > of it. Never heard anything else about it. > > > > But, I agree with Sherri. Try to see a homeopath. But you still need >to > > find a regular doctor. There are some instances such as sports >tryouts > > where they require physicals and such by a liscensed physician. But >you do > > not have to take the child regularly. Just go once and keep the >number > > around in case you need it. > > > > >From: Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> > > >Reply-Vaccinations > > >vaccinations > > >Subject: Re: Help! > > >Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 21:13:33 +0100 > > > > > >Forwarded to the list - I gave her some names of quality homeopaths >to see > > >immediately. Give her support! > > >Sheri > > > > > > >Hey, I was a member, but then I changed my email, and I just had to >post > > >this, so could you post this for me after I am reconfirmed? Thanks >for your > > >trouble! > > > > > > > >Hey, my name is heather, and I am maybe a little paranoid, but I >have > > >decided not to vaccinate my son, and currently he is sick with >possibly > > >whooping cough, he is doing fine, but I worry that if I need to take >him to > > >a doctor that I could loose him for negligence. The last time that my >son > > >has been to a doctor, he was 8 months he is now 14. The doctor that I >had > > >gone to had told my husband and I that we were making a stupid >decision, > > >and if we did not vaccinate him not to come back, and proceeded to >storm > > >out of the room. I just haven't had the guts to go again, I am afraid >to go > > >to a doctor, (this guy had been the 5th doctor that my son had seen >each > > >time we had been accused of ignorance for our decision.) I don't have >the > > >faintest idea on how to find a decent doctor that will respect our > > >decisions. I just need to know that I am not the only one out there. >I > > >would rather not be put into a situation of such emotional distraught > > >again, but I just don't know what to do. Thanks for reading my >ranting. > > > > > > > > > > >aspiring_midwife@... > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------- > > >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > > >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK > > >530-740-0561 Voicemail in US > > >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > > > " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good >men ( & > > >women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke > > >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL >ADVICE. THE > > >DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > > >Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours > > >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > > >International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine >Dangers > > >Education, Homeopathic Education > > >CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 beth, i'm not sheri and i don't know half as much as sheri does. but i can tell you my own experience with my family. my mother disowned me, just over a year ago, because of an argument on vaccinations. she's not talked to me since and i haven't talked to her since. all came because she accused me of being a neglecting parent for refusing to have my two kids vaccinated. she is a retired RN, btw, and only allowed me, as a child to have the smallpox vax, which, at the time, was allegedly mandatory in germany (i've not bothered to find out at present). she has sent letters to my husband pointing out that she is *willing* to accept me back into the family if i'm willing to *protect* my children with vaccinations. i can do without that. this is how i feel about vaccinations after having researched them for close to 5 years. i'd rather be an outcast to my bloodfamily than risk my children's lives. with regard to polio and, in fact, any disease, there is plenty of information on sheri's website. and if you don't get tired reading there, go to john's website at whale.to. what you need to get across to anyone who is in favor of vaccines is the fact that there is absolutely no proof that vaccines benefit anyone except pharma companies. and, i'm adding here, having just yesterday spent quite a bit of time at the gsk I (glaxo smithkline) website, a company who makes close to $1.3 million a year in vaccines alone, if anyone believes that a company can seriously be interested in humankind's health, then they surely would NOT allow their executive or non-executive directors to be simultaneous board members of imperial tobacco, coca-cola or rio-tinto! spreading the truth is a lonely route and you're likely to spend more time crying over the friends you've lost on the way because you don't agree, than to celebrate birthdays. but at least, at the end of the day, you have a clear conscience. i'm sorry if i sound pissed of. i am. why can't parents/people stop believing blindly when it comes to vaccinations? i'm sorry to learn that yet another soul is going through all this crap. but rest assured. at least YOU will have a clear conscience! claudia --- Beth Kopac <bakopac@...> wrote: > Sheri, I was at dinner lastnight with family, I > shouldn't have brought up > the subject of vaccines, but did with a small > comment. My 2year old son has > never had any shots, and probably never will, unless > it's his choice when > he's older. Most of my family thinks that we're > putting our son at risk of > getting diseases etc, and I was trying to explain > about the risks of the > vaccine etc,.... > Anyway, their concerns were for German Meseals, and > polio. (I'm sure > there's more to their concern, but that is what > they focused on lastnight.) > > My question to you, or anyone who may know, what are > the risks with vaccines > for those 2 diseases, and it's probably not worth > doing, as I feel we are > not living in a high risk environment and I hate the > idea of vaccination > anyway. > > My whole point with the family was that I don't care > if you choose to > vaccinate your child or not, that's your choice, I > would just like more > people to question, research what the risks of > vaccinating are or not and > stop to think before just doing it because that's > what the doctor told you > to do. Don't jump on the medical/pharmacuticals > bandwagon before weighing > out potential risks involved. > > I'm having a hard time getting that point across to > them, but I shouldn't > even bother I guess, I know what's right for me and > my family. My father > thinks that I'm grouping ALL vaccines into a bad > category and I'm trying to > tell him that I believe that they are from research > etc, but Sheri, is that > what you believe? You probably do! > > Thanks for your time, > Beth from BC > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > ===== http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/wiseone/index.htm http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/wiseone/UKvaxinfo.htm deutsprachige impfkritikliste: impfkritik_deutsch/ The real voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new lands, but in seeing with new eyes. Marcel Proust __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 Beth, You might be interested in reading a speech I recently made, which is a pretty good overview: http://www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/february2002/bartlettdemospeech ..htm . Hope this helps. Sandy from Alaska http://www.vaccinationnews.com http://www.whale.to http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm http://www.909shot.com http://www.redflagsweekly.com http://www.thinktwice.com http://www.mercola.com http://www.access1.net/via ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. Help! Sheri, I was at dinner lastnight with family, I shouldn't have brought up the subject of vaccines, but did with a small comment. My 2year old son has never had any shots, and probably never will, unless it's his choice when he's older. Most of my family thinks that we're putting our son at risk of getting diseases etc, and I was trying to explain about the risks of the vaccine etc,.... Anyway, their concerns were for German Meseals, and polio. (I'm sure there's more to their concern, but that is what they focused on lastnight.) My question to you, or anyone who may know, what are the risks with vaccines for those 2 diseases, and it's probably not worth doing, as I feel we are not living in a high risk environment and I hate the idea of vaccination anyway. My whole point with the family was that I don't care if you choose to vaccinate your child or not, that's your choice, I would just like more people to question, research what the risks of vaccinating are or not and stop to think before just doing it because that's what the doctor told you to do. Don't jump on the medical/pharmacuticals bandwagon before weighing out potential risks involved. I'm having a hard time getting that point across to them, but I shouldn't even bother I guess, I know what's right for me and my family. My father thinks that I'm grouping ALL vaccines into a bad category and I'm trying to tell him that I believe that they are from research etc, but Sheri, is that what you believe? You probably do! Thanks for your time, Beth from BC _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 The best thing is to keep thy mouth shut! ;-) At 01:33 PM 03/25/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Sheri, I was at dinner lastnight with family, I shouldn't have brought up >the subject of vaccines, but did with a small comment. My 2year old son has >never had any shots, and probably never will, unless it's his choice when >he's older. Most of my family thinks that we're putting our son at risk of >getting diseases etc, and I was trying to explain about the risks of the >vaccine etc,.... >Anyway, their concerns were for German Meseals, and polio. (I'm sure >there's more to their concern, but that is what they focused on lastnight.) > >My question to you, or anyone who may know, what are the risks with vaccines >for those 2 diseases, and it's probably not worth doing, as I feel we are >not living in a high risk environment and I hate the idea of vaccination >anyway. Many tell family and friends once they ahve done as much research as you have then you will discuss it. But if you haven't done much research, please please do so now. Yes, those vaccine are dangerous - ALL Vaccines are dangerous. Please read my website on those - German Measles is Rubella (hardly a problem for a child - rarely a problem for a pregnant mum) Polio - well there is NO polio in the US, UK or Europe, so what's the problem. Don't argue with them. > >My whole point with the family was that I don't care if you choose to >vaccinate your child or not, that's your choice, I would just like more >people to question, research what the risks of vaccinating are or not and >stop to think before just doing it because that's what the doctor told you >to do. Don't jump on the medical/pharmacuticals bandwagon before weighing >out potential risks involved. > >I'm having a hard time getting that point across to them, but I shouldn't >even bother I guess, I know what's right for me and my family. My father >thinks that I'm grouping ALL vaccines into a bad category and I'm trying to >tell him that I believe that they are from research etc, but Sheri, is that >what you believe? You probably do! Yes, don't bother. Someday they may see after they hear it enough from someone else besides you. My parents have come around. Yes, I do. But you have to read and read and read so you konw and are confident. Sheri http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/rubella.htm http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/polio.htm -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 , Yes, amen to what Sheri has said, we are all your friends and family now! You have shown great strength and courage, by the way, and I applaud you! Sandy from Alaska http://www.vaccinationnews.com http://www.whale.to http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm http://www.909shot.com http://www.redflagsweekly.com http://www.thinktwice.com http://www.mercola.com http://www.access1.net/via ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. Re: Help! At 01:55 PM 03/25/2002 -0800, you wrote: >beth, i'm not sheri and i don't know half as much as >sheri does. but i can tell you my own experience with >my family. my mother disowned me, just over a year >ago, because of an argument on vaccinations. she's not >talked to me since and i haven't talked to her since. >all came because she accused me of being a neglecting >parent for refusing to have my two kids vaccinated. Oh, my goodnes, , I had no idea! >she is a retired RN, btw, and only allowed me, as a >child to have the smallpox vax, which Well, then what's her problem now? Have her talk to me - another RN. I'll be your substitute mom! at the time, >was allegedly mandatory in germany (i've not bothered >to find out at present). she has sent letters to my >husband pointing out that she is *willing* to accept >me back into the family if i'm willing to *protect* my >children with vaccinations. i can do without that. >this is how i feel about vaccinations after having >researched them for close to 5 years. i'd rather be an >outcast to my bloodfamily than risk my children's >lives. I hear you there! with regard to polio and, in fact, any disease, >there is plenty of information on sheri's website. and >if you don't get tired reading there, go to john's >website at whale.to. what you need to get across to >anyone who is in favor of vaccines is the fact that >there is absolutely no proof that vaccines benefit >anyone except pharma companies. and, i'm adding here, >having just yesterday spent quite a bit of time at the >gsk I (glaxo smithkline) website, a company who makes >close to $1.3 million a year in vaccines alone, if >anyone believes that a company can seriously be >interested in humankind's health, then they surely >would NOT allow their executive or non-executive >directors to be simultaneous board members of imperial >tobacco, coca-cola or rio-tinto! Wow! Good find! >spreading the truth is a lonely route and you're >likely to spend more time crying over the friends >you've lost on the way because you don't agree, than >to celebrate birthdays. but at least, at the end of >the day, you have a clear conscience. That is for sure - but think of all the new friends you ahve. And with friends or family like that, who needs enemies. >i'm sorry if i sound pissed of. i am. why can't >parents/people stop believing blindly when it comes to >vaccinations? i'm sorry to learn that yet another soul >is going through all this crap. but rest assured. at >least YOU will have a clear conscience! Amen, claudia. Thanks for all you are doing. I haven't had much time to tell you that lately! Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 At 01:55 PM 03/25/2002 -0800, you wrote: >beth, i'm not sheri and i don't know half as much as >sheri does. but i can tell you my own experience with >my family. my mother disowned me, just over a year >ago, because of an argument on vaccinations. she's not >talked to me since and i haven't talked to her since. >all came because she accused me of being a neglecting >parent for refusing to have my two kids vaccinated. Oh, my goodnes, , I had no idea! >she is a retired RN, btw, and only allowed me, as a >child to have the smallpox vax, which Well, then what's her problem now? Have her talk to me - another RN. I'll be your substitute mom! at the time, >was allegedly mandatory in germany (i've not bothered >to find out at present). she has sent letters to my >husband pointing out that she is *willing* to accept >me back into the family if i'm willing to *protect* my >children with vaccinations. i can do without that. >this is how i feel about vaccinations after having >researched them for close to 5 years. i'd rather be an >outcast to my bloodfamily than risk my children's >lives. I hear you there! with regard to polio and, in fact, any disease, >there is plenty of information on sheri's website. and >if you don't get tired reading there, go to john's >website at whale.to. what you need to get across to >anyone who is in favor of vaccines is the fact that >there is absolutely no proof that vaccines benefit >anyone except pharma companies. and, i'm adding here, >having just yesterday spent quite a bit of time at the >gsk I (glaxo smithkline) website, a company who makes >close to $1.3 million a year in vaccines alone, if >anyone believes that a company can seriously be >interested in humankind's health, then they surely >would NOT allow their executive or non-executive >directors to be simultaneous board members of imperial >tobacco, coca-cola or rio-tinto! Wow! Good find! >spreading the truth is a lonely route and you're >likely to spend more time crying over the friends >you've lost on the way because you don't agree, than >to celebrate birthdays. but at least, at the end of >the day, you have a clear conscience. That is for sure - but think of all the new friends you ahve. And with friends or family like that, who needs enemies. >i'm sorry if i sound pissed of. i am. why can't >parents/people stop believing blindly when it comes to >vaccinations? i'm sorry to learn that yet another soul >is going through all this crap. but rest assured. at >least YOU will have a clear conscience! Amen, claudia. Thanks for all you are doing. I haven't had much time to tell you that lately! Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 Hi , What I do is tell people my kids have had all the shots they need. My kids got all their baby shots and my son became autistic from the MMR and other vaccine cocktails. Now, they are getting no more. So my oldest did not have his " required " shots for seventh grade. I signed a waiver at school and we opted out of any more shots. One autistic child is enough! My kids have had all the shots they need and then some. I wish I had never vaxed any of my kids but I did not know any better. I was working full time as a public school teacher and did not have the internet to research the shots. Now knowing what I know, I'd never vax my kids. just tell your relatives they've had all the shots they need it's none of their beeswax anyway@! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 oh, please stop it! --- Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > Oh, my goodnes, , I had no idea! so? does it really matter? it's a woken up mind against a sleeping mind, no? the only difference is that i dont' tell her i love her. i really didn't mean this to become a sob issue, but right now i'm sitting here laughing and crying at the same time. > Well, then what's her problem now? > Have her talk to me - another RN. > I'll be your substitute mom! thank you, dear. you cannot imagine how deeply i appreciate your remark. > Wow! Good find! i've done searches on most members by now, but no negative come up. i know they're there! if anyone finds anything neg on glaxo members, please, please, please, let me know. > Thanks for all you are doing. I haven't had much > time to tell you that > lately! don't be silly, you do twice as much and who thanks you? even i get pissed off at you for not replying to my vax brochure, lol. but here we go, global consciousness. everything in this world is based on negativity and we have to work twice and thrice as hard to have it based on positivity! thank you, sheri, for all you are doing! there are not many people i look up to, but you are surely one of the few!!!!! i've said this with love. claudia __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 thanx, sandy! the same goes to you! you have shown loads of brain and courage to run that site of yours!!!! :-0) claudia --- Sandy Mintz <sandym@...> wrote: > , Yes, amen to what Sheri has said, we are > all your friends and > family now! > > You have shown great strength and courage, by the > way, and I applaud > you! > > Sandy from Alaska > http://www.vaccinationnews.com > > http://www.whale.to > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > http://www.909shot.com > http://www.redflagsweekly.com > http://www.thinktwice.com > http://www.mercola.com > http://www.access1.net/via > > ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, > PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED > HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS > NOT TO BE CONSTRUED > AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE > PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO > BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR > LEGAL ADVICE. THE > DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT > AND COMPLEX ISSUE > AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN > CONSULTATION WITH YOUR > HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. > > > Re: Help! > > At 01:55 PM 03/25/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >beth, i'm not sheri and i don't know half as much > as > >sheri does. but i can tell you my own experience > with > >my family. my mother disowned me, just over a year > >ago, because of an argument on vaccinations. she's > not > >talked to me since and i haven't talked to her > since. > >all came because she accused me of being a > neglecting > >parent for refusing to have my two kids vaccinated. > > Oh, my goodnes, , I had no idea! > > >she is a retired RN, btw, and only allowed me, as a > >child to have the smallpox vax, which > > Well, then what's her problem now? > Have her talk to me - another RN. > I'll be your substitute mom! > > at the time, > >was allegedly mandatory in germany (i've not > bothered > >to find out at present). she has sent letters to my > >husband pointing out that she is *willing* to > accept > >me back into the family if i'm willing to *protect* > my > >children with vaccinations. i can do without that. > >this is how i feel about vaccinations after having > >researched them for close to 5 years. i'd rather be > an > >outcast to my bloodfamily than risk my children's > >lives. > > I hear you there! > > with regard to polio and, in fact, any disease, > >there is plenty of information on sheri's website. > and > >if you don't get tired reading there, go to john's > >website at whale.to. what you need to get across to > >anyone who is in favor of vaccines is the fact that > >there is absolutely no proof that vaccines benefit > >anyone except pharma companies. and, i'm adding > here, > >having just yesterday spent quite a bit of time at > the > >gsk I (glaxo smithkline) website, a company who > makes > >close to $1.3 million a year in vaccines alone, if > >anyone believes that a company can seriously be > >interested in humankind's health, then they surely > >would NOT allow their executive or non-executive > >directors to be simultaneous board members of > imperial > >tobacco, coca-cola or rio-tinto! > > Wow! Good find! > > >spreading the truth is a lonely route and you're > >likely to spend more time crying over the friends > >you've lost on the way because you don't agree, > than > >to celebrate birthdays. but at least, at the end of > >the day, you have a clear conscience. > > That is for sure - but think of all the new friends > you ahve. And with > friends or family like that, who needs enemies. > > >i'm sorry if i sound pissed of. i am. why can't > >parents/people stop believing blindly when it comes > to > >vaccinations? i'm sorry to learn that yet another > soul > >is going through all this crap. but rest assured. > at > >least YOU will have a clear conscience! > > Amen, claudia. > Thanks for all you are doing. I haven't had much > time to tell you that > lately! > Sheri > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada > City CA & Wales UK > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by > Paypal account > vaccineinfo@... > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail > PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 > Voicemail in US > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS > MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. > THE > DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & > OTHER Vaccine Dangers > Education, Homeopathic Education > CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 Thanks, . I'm sitting here with a big grin on my face. (Sad as the whole thing is......) Sandy Re: Help! > > At 01:55 PM 03/25/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >beth, i'm not sheri and i don't know half as much > as > >sheri does. but i can tell you my own experience > with > >my family. my mother disowned me, just over a year > >ago, because of an argument on vaccinations. she's > not > >talked to me since and i haven't talked to her > since. > >all came because she accused me of being a > neglecting > >parent for refusing to have my two kids vaccinated. > > Oh, my goodnes, , I had no idea! > > >she is a retired RN, btw, and only allowed me, as a > >child to have the smallpox vax, which > > Well, then what's her problem now? > Have her talk to me - another RN. > I'll be your substitute mom! > > at the time, > >was allegedly mandatory in germany (i've not > bothered > >to find out at present). she has sent letters to my > >husband pointing out that she is *willing* to > accept > >me back into the family if i'm willing to *protect* > my > >children with vaccinations. i can do without that. > >this is how i feel about vaccinations after having > >researched them for close to 5 years. i'd rather be > an > >outcast to my bloodfamily than risk my children's > >lives. > > I hear you there! > > with regard to polio and, in fact, any disease, > >there is plenty of information on sheri's website. > and > >if you don't get tired reading there, go to john's > >website at whale.to. what you need to get across to > >anyone who is in favor of vaccines is the fact that > >there is absolutely no proof that vaccines benefit > >anyone except pharma companies. and, i'm adding > here, > >having just yesterday spent quite a bit of time at > the > >gsk I (glaxo smithkline) website, a company who > makes > >close to $1.3 million a year in vaccines alone, if > >anyone believes that a company can seriously be > >interested in humankind's health, then they surely > >would NOT allow their executive or non-executive > >directors to be simultaneous board members of > imperial > >tobacco, coca-cola or rio-tinto! > > Wow! Good find! > > >spreading the truth is a lonely route and you're > >likely to spend more time crying over the friends > >you've lost on the way because you don't agree, > than > >to celebrate birthdays. but at least, at the end of > >the day, you have a clear conscience. > > That is for sure - but think of all the new friends > you ahve. And with > friends or family like that, who needs enemies. > > >i'm sorry if i sound pissed of. i am. why can't > >parents/people stop believing blindly when it comes > to > >vaccinations? i'm sorry to learn that yet another > soul > >is going through all this crap. but rest assured. > at > >least YOU will have a clear conscience! > > Amen, claudia. > Thanks for all you are doing. I haven't had much > time to tell you that > lately! > Sheri > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada > City CA & Wales UK > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by > Paypal account > vaccineinfo@... > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail > PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 > Voicemail in US > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS > MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. > THE > DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & > OTHER Vaccine Dangers > Education, Homeopathic Education > CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 mary, i know your feeling. been there, done that. my own personal problem is i cannot keep my mouth shut when it comes to spreading truth. i'll stay put when it comes to schools and the like, but other parents, hell, no! no way will i be responsible for any vax damage that, with my opinion stated, might be avoided. but, like i said before, it's a truly lonely road. all the best to you. :-) claudia --- <moira@...> wrote: > Hi , > > What I do is tell people my kids have had all the > shots they need. > > My kids got all their baby shots and my son became > autistic from the MMR > and other vaccine cocktails. > > Now, they are getting no more. > > So my oldest did not have his " required " shots for > seventh grade. > > I signed a waiver at school and we opted out of any > more shots. > > One autistic child is enough! > > My kids have had all the shots they need and then > some. > > I wish I had never vaxed any of my kids but I did > not know any better. > > I was working full time as a public school teacher > and did not have the > internet to research the shots. > > Now knowing what I know, I'd never vax my kids. > > > > just tell your relatives they've had all the shots > they need > > it's none of their beeswax anyway@! > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 In a message dated 3/25/02 1:35:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, bakopac@... writes: > Anyway, their concerns were for German Meseals German measles isn't such a bad thing by what I know - dangerous to pregnant woman but that's pretty much it isn't it? Chelly San Diego, CA Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 , you certainly had some kind of day today. Have a good night's rest, so you can get back in the trenches tomorrow. Big Hugs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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