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I'm

> allergy to fish oil, so have to find substitutes (also have to read

> labels to avoid fish oil in other things) - anyone have other forms of

> fatty acids they particularly like?

Hi Laurel,

you might try V-Pure vegan EPA/DHA-supplements. They're made of algae

(that's where the fish get their omega3 from) and this brand is also

the only brand that has vegan EPA in their supps: http://www.water4.net/

Vegan DHA is also available, also made from algae. You'll probably find

someting when you do a google-search.

For A-Linolenic Acid, flaxseed is the best thing. I recommend 1

tablespoon a day. Also, this ALA will partly be converted to EPA and

DHA in the body (if your body is up to that). Use an organic version

and if you take it from a bottle, do not use it after 6-8 weeks. Keep

in stored dark and refrigerated.

At the Linus ing Institute in Oregon they have great information

about nutrition. This is the info about omega3-fatty acids:

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/omega3fa/

[Guest guest]

I'll try the krill and algae, but I need to do it with a bottle of

benadryl nearby. What fish eat may actually be what I am allergic to

in the fish, so I need to be cautious. I know beyond doubt that I am

allergic to fish oil - I can eat salmon but if I get any of the fatty

part my tongue swells and my mouth breaks out within an hour, often

immediately. Supplements that contain fish oil are the worst.

I had allergy testing and showed no reaction to fish at all. I asked

the allergist and she said that testing is done with a purified piece

of whatever ( in this case fish). The fish is specially farmed and fed

hypo-allergenic foods, and then they use a section that does not

include the fat or organs, or stomach contents. She said my allergy

might well be, not the fish itself, but the food it feeds on, or algae

in the part of the ocean they live in. these things settle in the

fishs' fats.

Seems pointless to do allergy testing given those methods, but pouring

money down a hole seems to be a major symptom of auto-immune disorders!

So, one of those things might be worse than fish oil. My gut feeling

is it would be the algae, if only because algae is the mold of the sea

and molds and mildew are a problem for me. I'm not sure there is any

logic behind that though. Any of you know?

Like mjh, I don't do well with flaxseed oil. I may not be breaking it

down but I also tend not to handle it as delicately as required. If I

try it again I need to change my habits so it doesn't get forgotten in

the fridge. Maybe put it in a spray bottle and spritz it on everything?

Thanks for all the suggestions - lots of things to look into h=now :-).

L

>

> you might try V-Pure vegan EPA/DHA-supplements. They're made of algae

> (that's where the fish get their omega3 from) and this brand is also

> the only brand that has vegan EPA in their supps: http://www.water4.net/

>

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Thanks, Penni,

I'd like to learn more about this. I only know about using them in

wound care centers, as my MIL had treatments in one for lupus.

When I joined this list last week, I searched the archives for

references to Atlanta and that is how I learned that people here use

them. I learned there is a man here in my area that builds and sells

them to individuals? He has no website though - just an email addy.

Anyone know anything about him or his machines?

How do you find a place to try this? Is this the tube thing I've seen

in malls that people lie in and water rushes around them?

TIA,

L

>

> L,

> Have you looked into Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber treatments? If

you're body is not getting enough oxygen it may be worth a try. It

always works for me when I'm depleted of energy, weak, fatigued,

etc... Penni

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would do a search on the internet for HBOT centers near your home. It looks

like a big tank that you lie in, you would not see it in a mall. Penni

Re: Newbie

Thanks, Penni,

I'd like to learn more about this. I only know about using them in

wound care centers, as my MIL had treatments in one for lupus.

When I joined this list last week, I searched the archives for

references to Atlanta and that is how I learned that people here use

them. I learned there is a man here in my area that builds and sells

them to individuals? He has no website though - just an email addy.

Anyone know anything about him or his machines?

How do you find a place to try this? Is this the tube thing I've seen

in malls that people lie in and water rushes around them?

TIA,

L

>

> L,

> Have you looked into Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber treatments? If

you're body is not getting enough oxygen it may be worth a try. It

always works for me when I'm depleted of energy, weak, fatigued,

etc... Penni

>

>

[Guest guest]

the place at that link sounds like it could be good, its in CA it

looks like do they have a branch in GA?

Do you know if they take insurance? do you think that place would

rule stuff out, i.e. I have been wanting to rule out all the other

possibilities that may not get caught by simple blood tests like

myathenia gravis but my regular doc won't want to do it so would like

to go somewhere they understand and have capability.

>

> L

> There is a Fibro and Fatigue Center in Atlanta. I would highly

recommend starting there. They are thorough and will track down the

root issues concerning you.

>

> see www.fibroandfatigue.com

> see http://www.hormoneandlongevitycenter.com/ for a good overview

of what they look for.

>

> diane in MI

> Newbie

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I've suffered from a number of auto-immune disorders for years, of

> which the most debilitating symptom is fatigue. I spent two years

> waking up in the morning and then falling asleep again in the

process

> of sitting up. It would take me hours to actually get up, and I

> *worked* at it. Doctors clearly did not believe me when I told

them.

> Didn't believe the fatigue nor did they believe I could possibly

be

> working at waking up if I wasn't succeeding.

>

> I did a sleep study and started using a c-pap machine and more or

less

> got my life back. I could get up and one day out of three was

quite

> productive. Not optimal, certainly, but helped. Doctors tell me

I've

> improved as much as I can expect to, but I don't buy it - they

barely

> listen; barely try.

>

> Last December I caught the flu and slid back to square one. I

barely

> raised my head up for a month. I thought I'd recovered ( my

symptoms

> all left), but the fatigue is back. For the past week I've gotten

out

> of bed looking forward to the day, only to find it is late

afternoon

> and I'm still struggling to find the energy to have breakfast.

>

> Aside from the diet/excercise issue, which fatigue turns into a

self

> defeating cycle no matter how I approach it, I suspect oxygen

> deprivation is my biggest problem. Not only do I have apnea, but I

> have 5 different arrhythmias. Because none of these are considered

> dangerous ones, my cardiologist put me on Lexapro and said don't

worry.

>

> Long story short, I need help, feel like I need it NOW, and don't

know

> where to turn - nor do I have the energy to keep turning. Up

until now

> I've addressed other A-I disorders, but I've noticed that doctors

> often write CFS on my chart.

>

> Where do I begin? Not the encyclopedic version ( until I get a bit

> more energy back) but the short story version, please. Maybe the

Bob

> book version?

>

> I live in North Metro Atlanta, so if anyone knows of a good

doctor or

> resource in this area, I'd appreciate it.

>

> TIA,

> L

>

>

>

>

>

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acorniv wrote:

> Like mjh, I don't do well with flaxseed oil. I may not be breaking it

> down but I also tend not to handle it as delicately as required. If I

> try it again I need to change my habits so it doesn't get forgotten in

> the fridge. Maybe put it in a spray bottle and spritz it on everything?

>

I have read that the best source of the " longer " omega 3's, for those

who can't handle fish oil and can't lengthen the omega 3's in flax, is

to eat the omega-3-enriched eggs, such as Eggland's Best or (in the

health food stores) Chino's Omega 3 organic eggs. The chickens are fed

flax seed, and they do the " lengthening " for us! These eggs are really

delicious, too.

--

el (andreafrankel at sbcglobal dot net)

" wake now! Discover that YOU are the song that the morning brings... "

[Guest guest]

>My name is .

Welcome!

>I am currently doing a body cleanse.

> I started it today. I am hoping it will kick start my metabolism.

You'll lose a few pounds of water weight but don't be surprised if it

all comes right back on as soon as you start eating again in 2 weeks.

> I am considering joining the local rec center, b ut

> haven't gotten off my duff to do it.

You may want to talk with your orthopedic doc first and find out what

you're allowed to do. Would your insurance cover some physical therapy

if you can get your doc to prescribe some? A PT would be the best person

to show you what kinds of exercises you can do for weight loss that

won't harm your back.

Sue in NJ

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Welcome . I have a DD . I am 40 SAHM just struggling not to gain. I weigh in on Monday so we will see how being sick has done to my body.

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Thanks for the welcome . I hope that you are feeling better. Jase0157@... wrote: Welcome . I have a DD . I am 40 SAHM just struggling not to gain. I weigh in on Monday so we will see how being sick has done to my body. N.H. Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

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In a message dated 3/30/2008 8:08:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tolmiec@... writes:

I just joined the group tonight. I need some good support and people that know what I am going through.

Hi Clare - welcome to our group. I am sure you will get the support and motivation you need.

I am now weight 320. I am looking to get down to 170 my doctor says 150 but I am being realistic. I am 5' 5" and 37 years old.

I was 310 when I started and my original goal was 155 and my doctor says 170 should be low enough, but we'll see when I get there. I'm 5'8" and 40 yrs old. I want to be realistic too... and healthy, so that's why I say we'll see when I get there.

I am married to wonderful man named Graeme and we have two great girls Jeannette who is 16 and who is 15. My dh is obese and my youngest daughter is definitely overweight and I don't want her to suffer how I did.

Is your dh supportive of your efforts and going to work on his weight with you? Your daughter should get healthier by following your example and eating choices, I would think.

Our oldest daughter is 5' 5" and weighs 125. I don't know where she got her metabolism but I wish I had it.

Could be from the other relatives on either side? How's the rest of your family?

My mother is obese. I don't know about my father. I always thought he was tall and skinny, but I never knew him, only going by what I think I have been told (LOL). I have an aunt and uncle and my grandmother all on my mother's side are all "normal" weights and never seem to have to struggle with it. I don't know about my father's side though. Anyway.

I am , 40 single mom of 3 boys: 11, 13 and 15, have been losing weight for 3.5 years now and almost to 60 lbs gone. There's no going back. I might take a long time to get to goal, but I'll get there.

What plan are you going to follow, anything structured, or just healthy eating on your own and exercise?

I am looking forward to getting to know everyone.

Us too for you! Good luck on the journey!

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Welcome Clair. BEST advice journal, and remember water, portions, and exercise.

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HI Clare, I am . I am 39 and live in Oklahoma. I am a sahm to two kids, one girl and one boy. Madison is almost 16 and is 8. I have been obese for about 10 years now. I need to lose 120 pounds. I also have a number of health problems. You have come to the right group for support and encouragement. Post often. tolmiec <tolmiec@...> wrote: Hi everyone,I just joined the group tonight. I need some good support and people that know what I am going through.

I have been overweight all my life. In 2004 I lost just over 60 pounds. Through emotional and stress eating I have gained back 92 pounds. I am now weight 320. I am looking to get down to 170 my doctor says 150 but I am being realistic. I am 5' 5" and 37 years old. I am married to wonderful man named Graeme and we have two great girls Jeannette who is 16 and who is 15. My dh is obese and my youngest daughter is definitely overweight and I don't want her to suffer how I did. Our oldest daughter is 5' 5" and weighs 125. I don't know where she got her metabolism but I wish I had it. I am looking forward to getting to know everyone. Clare

[Guest guest]

, Welcome to the group! I'm 38 married with 3 girls 12, 10 and 7. I live in Michigan on a crop farm, we have 2 dogs and 5 cats. I am sure you will find alot of support here. a __________________________________________________

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, Nice to meet you. sounds like we have quite a bit in common. I am . I am a sahm to 2 kids and have 2 adult step kids and 2 grandkids. I need to lose 107 loubs for me to be at my goal weight of 170. I too am a carb eater and have almost zero will power. I don't get much excercise either do to pain conditions. I also have several health conditions that losing the weight would correct, I think. I am currently counting calories. So, far I have gained and lost the same 10 pounds over and over because I will do good for 3 or 4 days and then I will fall off the wagon. I am hoping to have a better time of it this coming week. Look forward to seeing you post often. "art.zine" <oneilpress@...> wrote: Good morning all. I just joined the list. My name is and I live in Ontario Canada. I'm 57, married, 3 adult kids, 7 cats, 2 dogs. I am a teacher of kids with mental, behavioural and learning disabilites. I'm also an artist, publisher, mother and an almost new grandmother. I need to lose 100 lbs. I'm a carb addict and it seems I was born without any form of willpower at all. My biggest problem is that I am also physically disabled and exercise in the normal sense is almost always out of the question. Gently walking on days when I able able to walk a little ways is about the best I can do. Back in the day I used exercise to keep my weight down and was once

a nice comfortable 145 lbs. I blew my achilles tendons from exercise and spent 2 1/2 years in a wheelchair and presto... here I am at 240 lbs.I am looking forward to meeting all of you. in Ontario

[Guest guest]

Good Sunday morning all.

Thanks for all the great welcomes I have received.

I was wondering what types of diets y'all are following? I'm diabetic and very sensitive to carbs so I am not really following any "plan", I'm just avoiding sugars and cutting way, way down on carbs. This has, so far, been a good weekend for me.

One of my big problems is that I come home tired and don't want to cook. I am feeding 2 other adults, my daughter has a weight problem in it's early stages and I want very much to keep her from being like me. We carry all our weight in the middle.... nice legs, cute butts and a huge gut.

I need good nutritional meals that are fast, easy and cheap. I do use the crockpot but you can only eat so many crockpot meals in a week.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

in Ontario

Re: Newbie

,

Welcome to the group! I'm 38 married with 3 girls 12, 10 and 7. I live in Michigan on a crop farm, we have 2 dogs and 5 cats.

I am sure you will find alot of support here.

a

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Hi ,The details of the diet I follow are on my website here:http://www.naturallythriving.com/basics/cfd.phpI do eat low carb and have reversed my pre-diabetic condition. I spend 15 minutes cooking in the morning for the whole day. I store my food in stainless steel food jars (like larger thermoses) so it stays warm all day. I do a lot of stir fries and batch cooking.

Luv,

Debby in San , CA

147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed!

Group: curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in Psychology

----- Original Message ----From: O'Neil

Good Sunday morning all.

Thanks for all the great welcomes I have received.

I was wondering what types of diets y'all are following? I'm diabetic and very sensitive to carbs so I am not really following any "plan", I'm just avoiding sugars and cutting way, way down on carbs. This has, so far, been a good weekend for me.

One of my big problems is that I come home tired and don't want to cook. I am feeding 2 other adults, my daughter has a weight problem in it's early stages and I want very much to keep her from being like me. We carry all our weight in the middle.... nice legs, cute butts and a huge gut.

I need good nutritional meals that are fast, easy and cheap. I do use the crockpot but you can only eat so many crockpot meals in a week.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

in Ontario

----- Ori

[Guest guest]

I have read through and printed off of your site. I have always wondered if I had Candida problems. I have atleast half your list of symptoms. The brain fog and fatique are killers I have been fighting a long time.

I am going to go on the Moves diet and see if that will help. At this point I am more than willing to try anything.

thanks for bringing this to my attention. It sounds like a way of life that would be beneficial to me. I am also diabetic.

Re: Newbie

Hi ,The details of the diet I follow are on my website here:http://www.naturallythriving.com/basics/cfd.phpI do eat low carb and have reversed my pre-diabetic condition. I spend 15 minutes cooking in the morning for the whole day. I store my food in stainless steel food jars (like larger thermoses) so it stays warm all day. I do a lot of stir fries and batch cooking.Luv,Debby in San , CA147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed!Group: curingcandida/Website: http://www.naturallythriving.comCurrently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in Psychology

----- Original Message ----From: O'Neil

Good Sunday morning all.

Thanks for all the great welcomes I have received.

I was wondering what types of diets y'all are following? I'm diabetic and very sensitive to carbs so I am not really following any "plan", I'm just avoiding sugars and cutting way, way down on carbs. This has, so far, been a good weekend for me.

One of my big problems is that I come home tired and don't want to cook. I am feeding 2 other adults, my daughter has a weight problem in it's early stages and I want very much to keep her from being like me. We carry all our weight in the middle.... nice legs, cute butts and a huge gut.

I need good nutritional meals that are fast, easy and cheap. I do use the crockpot but you can only eat so many crockpot meals in a week.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

in Ontario

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Welcome. We are in the same neighborhood in how much we weigh. BEST advice I can give you is Journal, water, portions, and movement. Sometimes making small changes will give you motivation to keep going.

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, I am just counting calories at this point. I am trying to eat more nutritious foods as well and watch my carbs (type II diabetic). As for cooking meals on the days that you are working I have a hard time with that one as well. I normally need to leave something for the family that they will all like (that is a task in its self) and it has to be either already cooked or something that they can just heat up. It can be difficult. I have signed up to a frozen meals group and use a few of the recipies on there that I can cook in advance, freeze and then pop in the oven before I leave so it will be ready for them when they get home. I think you could defrost the day before and cut the cooking time down for the day of. Some of the meals that I have found are rather healthy, and then again alot of them are full of high calorie stuff so you kind of have to pick and choose through the

recipes. I understand what you are going through with your daughter. My 10 yr old is over 5' tall can't remember if she is 5'1" or 5'2" anyhow.. she is 150lbs and reminds me alot of me when I was her age. The up or down side to it depending on how you look at it is that we are just learning that there is something wrong with her thyroid. I have done many internet searches and am still not sure what the heck is going on so I guess I am going to have to wait until we see the pediatric endocronologist. I hope that it will help her with her weight. I am sorry I couldn't be of much more help. a

[Guest guest]

Hi - welcome to our group! Look forward to getting to know you.

I am , 40 single mom of 3 boys: 11, 13 and 15

I've lost roughly 60 lbs (eh, plus my gain this week from travel and TOM showing up LOL) and have I think 80 to go.

in WA310/249.0/170 (-61 total, 79 to go, 9 from half-way point) I'm not telling you it's going to be easy, I'm telling you it's going to be worth it! -Art It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance.

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Hi ,I'm glad I could help. I was able to reverse all my symptoms of pre-diabetes eating this way. If you join my group, please do post and ask questions. It can be a lifestyle that often takes a lot of emotional support and technical questions to get down.People have questions like dealing with social situations, medical problems, boredom with food and all sorts of things, and we try to help each other and support each other.Luv,Debby in San , CA147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed!Group: curingcandida/Website: http://www.naturallythriving.comCurrently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in Psychology----- Original Message ----From: O'Neil

I have read through and printed off of your site. I have always wondered if I had Candida problems. I have atleast half your list of symptoms. The brain fog and fatique are killers I have been fighting a long time.

I am going to go on the Moves diet and see if that will help. At this point I am more than willing to try anything.

thanks for bringing this to my attention. It sounds like a way of life that would be beneficial to me. I am also diabetic.

[Guest guest]

Welcome Jo!

I am on a few listserves and I can tell you that you will NEVER find

another one like this. I wonder what that magical ingredient is... but you are

right that you will find warmth and caring here. Also wisdom, laughter, tears.

Happiness and sorrow and always family because that is what we all are!

Looking forward to hearing and learning about you and yours!

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Welcom Patty. Settle back and learn and contribute.

Diane in MI

newbie

Hi,

My name is Patty. I have fibromyalgia. bah

It will be nice to get to know you here. I already know Diane...Hi

Diane.

Patty in MI

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Hey Kim, welcome!

Good luck glad to have you here! We're a very supportive group so feel free to vent or ask anything I'm sure someone has an answer!

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From: Kim Cole <ekecole03@...>Subject: newbie100-plus Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 12:37 PM

hey all,my name is kim and i just wanted to join the group. i am 24 and havetwo children, a 3 year old named emma and a 1 year old named ethan. iam married and have been for over 5 years. i have decided i want thisweight off i have about 100 pounds to lose and i am very focused ondoing so. i started my diet last week and am going strong. i reallyhome to meet some fellow dieters on here and get aid with my strugglesand temptations when it comes to food. i am not really doing anyprogram just lots of exercise and 1200 calories a day . anyways hopeto get to know yall~ thanks

[Guest guest]

Welcome Kim,

I am almost 3 weeks into my regiment down about 2lbs but I have to tell you that even better than that is how much better I feel. When I started my workouts I could only lunge 1/2 of the small track at the gym and this Friday I went all the way. Watch your calorie intake, I don't know a whole lot but I think 1200 calories may be too little for you. I am at 240lbs and keep my intake at around 1800 calories, that is what my trainer suggested. If you don't eat enough then your body will store the food you do take in and losing weight could be more difficult.

God Bless you and your journey,

From: Kim Cole <ekecole03@...>Subject: newbie100-plus Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 12:37 PM

hey all,my name is kim and i just wanted to join the group. i am 24 and havetwo children, a 3 year old named emma and a 1 year old named ethan. iam married and have been for over 5 years. i have decided i want thisweight off i have about 100 pounds to lose and i am very focused ondoing so. i started my diet last week and am going strong. i reallyhome to meet some fellow dieters on here and get aid with my strugglesand temptations when it comes to food. i am not really doing anyprogram just lots of exercise and 1200 calories a day . anyways hopeto get to know yall~ thanks