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[Guest guest]

Dennis? Was that a typo?

If you want to learn about ozone, Saul Pressman has your answers. He is a list

member. His site: http://plasmafire.com offers the best in medical grade

equipment. Saul is one of the most caring and helpful people on this planet,

tirelessly (seemingly ;-) teaching the newbies about the uses of ozone.

If you join the oxylist at http://www.oxytherapy.com you can also ask questions

of DEN from osone services, http://www.o3zone.com/ozoneser/ The oxylist

specifically caters only to oxygen therapies. Oxyplus began with members from

the oxylist.

jim lambert

Try

" D. Garrett " wrote:

> From: djg77@... (D. Garrett)

>

> i'm new here and have heard a little about ozone therapies. i wanna

> learn a lot more, and will appreciate all the help i can get. my local

> pet stores don't sell cold cathode ozone generators that i know of.

> being sunday i am not suprised.

> i plan on burning up the phone lines tomorrow, though.

> regards,

> Denns

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[Guest guest]

uh... typo? was what a typo?

Dennis :-)

[Guest guest]

i just had to restore my computer (again) so everything i had saved is once

again gone

type in toiletries library in your search engine, thats a wonderful site to

begin with

good luck

faith

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy,

" I was diagnosed with Melanoma in Dec. of 99 and it's spread to my lymph

nodes. My family lives here in Balt. now and I have a brother who lives in

FL still. I have a dog, my best bud! And I love art, music, sports,

outdoors and traveling. I especially love the beach and water. "

Welcome!! Really sorry to hear about your diagnosis. Dogs are the best arent

they! I also love Art and Music.

We have only just started this list, and there are only three of us here at

the moment. But thats not bad for two days! LOL..... We get hundreds of

people through the medical pages of our website so I am sure that the list

will grow quite quickly. I hope you stick around!!

" I've been on chemo and feeling like I'm really depressed, thought this

group might help. Feel pretty alone. Thanks for listening, Andy "

Chemo does not sound like a lot of fun and I dont blame you for feeling

depressed. Please feel free to share your feelings and vent all you need.

Thats what we are here for!!

How long have you been on chemo for?

looking forward to talking more,

with love

Aisha.

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Hello Jack,

Welcome to the group. You sound like a really interesting person. I would

love to hear more of your life experiences. This is a great group to share

and vent!! My name is Kellie. I am 41, married and mother of a 14yr old

and 10 yr old. I have been dealing with vasculitis for the last three

years. Look forward to hearing more from you. Welcome---- Original

Message -----

From: john (jack) kidd <blue@...>

<onelist>

Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 10:01 AM

Subject: newbie

> From: " john (jack) kidd " <blue@...>

>

> hello,

> i am jack, the old hippy, and am new to the list.....i am

> recovering from sarcoidosis........it hit me bad as it was

> misdiagnosed for years. i am 62 years young, been married for almost

> 40 years.....proud father of 2 of the most wonderful

> daughters....grandfather to 6, 3 boyz and 3 girls.....that i dote on.

> i am a midi (music composing) phread, computer phreak, blues

> guitarist (quite good, so i am told), motor cycle lover (gold wing),

> and i get high on life. not miller's hilife, just life. *grin*

> i joined the list to share my life experiences with people, and to

> have a place to VENT when i am down. hopefully, i will add to the

> list more than i take........lookin forward to stoppin lurkin and

> creatin dialog........smiles for miles.....

> hangin tough........jack

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[Guest guest]

Welcome Jack the old hippy! LOLOL

Fellow sarcoidian, but dont you also have lupus and diabetes??

" i am a midi (music composing) phreak "

*HURRAY*

Are you gonna post some of them so we can hear what you have done??

" blues guitarist (quite good, so i am told) "

*Jealous*

I would love to be able to play blues guitar, and as for Gwydi, well if he

dont talk to you again, now you know why! LOL....

" motor cycle lover (gold wing), "

Eek... dangerous!

" i joined the list to share my life experiences with people, and to

have a place to VENT when i am down. hopefully, i will add to the list more

than i take...... "

You have already added to the list just by being you! Same as all of us

here - for we are all wonderful!

" ...smiles for miles..... "

Wonderful expression!!!

" hangin tough....... "

We're right there with ya!

Welcome to the group! This is a place to share and grow, to love and vent,

support and be supported, we are all equal. Please feel free to say what you

want, when you want about anything you want - if we dont like it we will

just delete it!!

Love and blessings!

Aisha.

[Guest guest]

Well hi Jack!

Welcome and glad to have you!

My sons (9 and 10) have a keyboard which records in midi. i need to

learn that so I can teach them to record their stuff and play on the

comp. Anylinks?

vanessa in venezuela

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for reporting on Dr. & your tests. Don't worry about

NADH not working for you, the reports on it are not that accurate. Immunopro

is the most popular treatment based on what I see reported by patients.

Does Dr. use MGN-3? It a product for NK cells, details at:

www.lanelabs.com and sold by the CFIDS buyers club. I have some to sell at

half the price of most dealers so let me know if you want to try it.

Take care,

Al

newbie

> Hi folks, a quick intro...

>

> My name is . I live in San Francisco, CA. I am 31 years old, been

sick

> with what we are all calling CFS (I still despise the name) for about 3.5

> years. I have what may be considered a relatively moderate case of this

evil

> thing; I am able to work fulltime, although I do struggle immensely

> sometimes. My biggest problems are extreme fatigue / exhaustion (duh),

wicked

> brain-fog / head pressure that travels down my neck, transient flu-like

> feelings, and transient minor aches and pains (not FM-level). I've been

> seeing Dr. in Incline Village, Nevada (Cheney's former

> partner and co-discoverer in the famed 80's Tahoe outbreak). I've spent

the

> last year getting tons of tests. This is what has come up;

>

> - severe IgA deficiency (my body produces no detectable IgA.

tells

> me this would keep me out of the official CDC criteria for CFS. I'm still

> trying to understand that).

> - carnitine deficiency (he is treating me with prescription Carnitor. This

is

> think has helped *subtly* with energy levels and the aches.

> - I have tested positive for the Rnase-L defect

> - I have had a lumbar punture which revealed HHV6 in my cerebrospinal

fluid

> - I had a mildly abnormal treadmill / exercise test (which I personally

think

> has more to do with deconditioning over the last couple of years)

> - I tested moderately low on an ABBO cognitive ability test, mostly with

> memory and recall.

> - My Natural Killer Cell functioning tested last year as being very low

>

> So I'm in the middle of this major insurance company wrangle trying to get

> covered for some of this stuff. Also, is helping me find someone

> more local in San Francisco to treat me since his clinic is so far away

for

> constant.

>

> It's all very slow-going, because has such a huge patient load

and I

> just got in on a fluke last year because of a cancellation, and I've tried

as

> much as I can to get asmuch of the testing done via my insurance, which of

> course slows everything to a crawl.

>

> ANYhow (this was supposed to be a QUICK intro), I am thankful for this

list.

> While I am straightening some things out with insurance and , I am

> researching some things I can try on my own. NADH did nothing for me, but

> maybe I took it incorrectly.

>

> I am very intersted in the ImmunoPro. Seems a lot of people on this list

are

> trying it. I;ve read a bit about it, some of what Cheney has said. Can

anyone

> explain to me - does Cheney claim that he sees this stuff helping a good

> number of his patients?

>

> Also, if anyone else has tested positive for the Rnase-L and knows more

about

> it than I do, could ya help me out? My testing form from R.E.D. Labs in

> Belgium reads - " RNase-L Protein Determination 0.6 (normal being less than

2

> so this is ok). Evidence of LMW band PRESENT (normal being absent). So

maybe

> I dont fully have it, but somwhat?

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Thanks for leting me join your list - SORRY SO LONG!

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Hi (and other new folk)

See http://www.folkarts.com/idef/cheney_whey.htm OR search this group's archives for tons of information on ImmunePro

See http://www.folkarts.com/idef/insurance_issues.htm for LTD / Insurance links (we try to keep strictly focused on treatments on this list)

For area of best success (in my opinion from observing postings on this list):

* ImmunePro - non denatured whey http://www.immunepro.com

* Anticoagulation - (treating thick blood): http://www.hemex.com/cfs/

* Transfer Factor

* Antibiotics

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[Guest guest]

Hello Penny,

You will like it here, there is a great bunch of people here. Aisha's a

sweetheart. I'm from Swanton,Ohio. I feel for you. I had severe Endo,

had everything taken out, was the best thing I ever done.

hugs-Helen

1) Name: Penny

>

> 2) Location: Ohio

>

> 3) Personal Info: I joined this list so I can get some understanding. It

seems like no one understands what I am going through and it gets very

hard. I have Severe Endometriosis, Polycystic Ovarian Disease,

Interstitial Cystitis, and Insulin Resistance.

>

> 4) Interests: I love to read ( I think I like to get lost in a book and

feel like I am a person without pain.)

>

> 5) Email: Yes, PEEJAY25@...

>

> 6) ICQ / AOL / MSN:

>

> ICQ# 85497681

>

> AOL Love

>

> 7) Webpage: I have one in progress, just having a hard time trying to

find the time to work on it.

>

> 8) Birthday: April 24th , Taurus

>

> .

>

>

--- angelbear1129@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Penny!

Welcome to our crazy family!!

"Personal Info: I joined this list so I can get some understanding. It seems like noone understands what I am going through and it gets very hard."

*nods*

That I am sure we can all relate to! Please feel free to vent, bitch, sware, share stories, opinions, jump into conversations, send jokes, inspiration etc. We are here for you always! You're not alone.

Welcome to the family!

Love Aisha.

[Guest guest]

Hello Penny!I have insulin resistance also. I just barely learned about Polycystic Ovarian Disease.. I also love to read. ( and im a Taurus too) But any way, welcome! How did you go about getting diagnosed with POD?

Melinda

newbie

1) Name: Penny

2) Location: Ohio

3) Personal Info: I joined this list so I can get some understanding. It seems like noone understands what I am going through and it gets very hard. I have Severe Endometriosis, Polycystic Ovarian Disease, Interstitial Cystitis, and Insulin Resistance.

4) Interests: I love to read ( I think I like to get lost in a book and feel like I am a person without pain.)

5) Email: Yes, PEEJAY25@...

6) ICQ / AOL / MSN:

ICQ# 85497681

AOL Love

7) Webpage: I have one in progress, just having a hard time trying to find the time to work on it.

8) Birthday: April 24th , Taurus

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[Guest guest]

Hi Penny.

Sorry to be so late in welcoming you to the group. I'm a bit behind on

my e-mails right now.

I'm , and I joined this group as a caregiver for my son.

I'm glad that you found us, but sure do wish that you didn't need to!

But since you do, and you have ...WELCOME!!

Hugs,

, momma to

^^ (12/23/98- 6/9/00)

Pearson's syndrome/ Kearns-Sayre syndrome

PEEJAY25 wrote:

> 1) Name: Penny

>

> 2) Location: Ohio

>

> 3) Personal Info: I joined this list so I can get some understanding.

> It seems like noone understands what I am going through and it gets

> very hard. I have Severe Endometriosis, Polycystic Ovarian Disease,

> Interstitial Cystitis, and Insulin Resistance.

>

> 4) Interests: I love to read ( I think I like to get lost in a book

> and feel like I am a person without pain.)

>

> 5) Email: Yes, PEEJAY25@...

>

> 6) ICQ / AOL / MSN:

>

> ICQ# 85497681

>

> AOL Love

>

> 7) Webpage: I have one in progress, just having a hard time trying to

> find the time to work on it.

>

> 8) Birthday: April 24th , Taurus

>

> .

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

What a pretty name. Welcome to our LL list. You'll get the love and

encouragement that you need to help you to reach your goals. Stay

consistent in your workout and try and report in often. Drink lots of

water and breathe, breathe, breath!!!!!!!!! Let us know if there is

anyway that we can help you. Congratulations on your losses so far.

It's great to have you with us.

Love, Liz

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Hi Marie,

Glad you've joined us! I used to do BF too, but like you I prefer

LL ...actually I'm amazed at the difference between the programs.

I wouldn't worry too much if you see the scale and tape fluctuate.

In the 5 months I've been doing this, I've seen both the tape and

scale go up, down, up, down ...especially the scale. Now, I mostly

use my clothes as a guide and measure once a month. But this month I

might measure more often because of the challenge.

Tara ë

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list Lou! My name is Alison and I don't post often because I

work a lot. I joined this list to get info for me and my best friend who had

a kidney/pancreas transplant. I also suffered from IBS. They say I have GERD

but it's not that bad. I mainly suffer from Depression/Anxiety. Everyone on

this list is very nice and very helpfull! I'm really sorry to hear about your

Dad. It must be hard on you not just because of your ailments but you also

choose to take care of others. You are one of those Angel-like people! I hope

you enjoy our list! Many hugs!!!

^,,^

>:<

**** @lison

[Guest guest]

Lou,

Welcome to the list! I'm so very glad that you've found us. This

is an exceptionally loving, caring, giving group of people and I know

that you'll fit in just fine!

I'm so sorry to hear of all your difficulties. My condolences on the

loss of your father. *BIG HUGS*

I joined this list as a carer for my son, , who had

mitochondrial disease. I found a lot of love, comfort, and support from

the people here...they helped me (and continue to help me) through some

of the worst times in my life.

I hope you find all the wonderful things here that I have. Again,

welcome.

*hugs*

, momma to

^^ the sweetest angel

12/23/98-6/9/00

Pearson's syndrome/ Kearns-Sayre syndrome

LouWarren wrote:

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> 1) Name Lou

>

> 2) Location New York State

>

> 3) Personal Info I have IBS, High Blood Pressure, GERD, and BiPolar

> Disorder. My Father recently passed away suddenly in his sleep on

> 9/14. I am the full time caregiver to my 12 yr. old adopted angel who

> has many special needs, currently hospitialzed in Saratoga NY. She

> had a mental breakdown from losing her " Poppy. " She was abused in

> utero by drugs and alcohol and has many physical and mental health

> problems. I also now live with my Mom who is wheelchair bound with

> Parkinson's Disease, Polymiosistis, Diabetic, Dementia, Blood Clots,

> Severe Arthritis, Depression, and is losing her voice due to the

> Parkinson's. She has still not accepted my Dad's death as a reality

> yet.

>

> 4) Interests The only thing I really enjoy anymore is being with my

> daughters, my Basset Hound........truthfully I have been losing my

> interest in my computer due to exhaustion and depression. I am very

> glad to have found this list, I hope I fit in here.

>

> 5) Email Yes

>

> 6) ICQ / AOL / MSN I currently have AOL Instant Messanger, my name is

> unluckylou if anyone wants to contact me. I am not on as much as I

> once was as I am extremely busy.

>

> 7) Webpage Not that talented

>

> 8) Birthday June 30............Cancer

>

> I would like to share with you that I am a divorced 46 yr. old

> woman, been so for about 5 yrs. now. My " ex " and I are better friends

> now then we were during our 20+ yrs of marriage!! I don't know how I

> just changed the color of this type!! Anyway, I'm an RN by

> profession, on disability due to burn out. I lost my beloved brother

> to the cruel disease of AIDS about 13 years ago. I just couldn't seem

> to go back into active nursing after that. As you can see, I have my

> hands full now. I have 2 other children. Both daughters.....my first

> born is 27, dubbed mentally retarded about 20 yrs. ago, but quite high

> functioning. The direct result of a very difficult pregnancy from

> toxiema. She was born oxygen deprived, low birth weight, but yet full

> term. My second born is 25 and a career woman working with special

> needs children. She's engaged to be married. Well, I " ve bent your

> " ears " enough about me. I haven't " chatted " with anyone this much

> since I found my Dad gone that awful morning in September. Thank you

> so much for allowing me into your group. If I overstep my limits in

> any way shape or form, please do not hesitate to let me know. This

> seems like an extremely friendly list that I would like to be a part

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lou,

You sure do have your hands full. Accept my condolances of your Father

passing please.I lost my Father 2 and 1/2 years ago in his sleep to a heart

attack. You can never talk too much here, this is a lovely bunch and very

caring people. Glad you found us.

Hugs

Helen-Ohio

1) Name Lou

>

> 2) Location New York State

>

> 3) Personal Info I have IBS, High Blood Pressure, GERD, and BiPolar

Disorder. My Father recently passed away suddenly in his sleep on 9/14. I

am the full time caregiver to my 12 yr. old adopted angel who has many

special needs, currently hospitialzed in Saratoga NY. She had a mental

breakdown from losing her " Poppy. " She was abused in utero by drugs and

alcohol and has many physical and mental health problems. I also now live

with my Mom who is wheelchair bound with Parkinson's Disease,

Polymiosistis, Diabetic, Dementia, Blood Clots, Severe Arthritis,

Depression, and is losing her voice due to the Parkinson's. She has still

not accepted my Dad's death as a reality yet.

>

> 4) Interests The only thing I really enjoy anymore is being with my

daughters, my Basset Hound........truthfully I have been losing my interest

in my computer due to exhaustion and depression. I am very glad to have

found this list, I hope I fit in here.

>

> 5) Email Yes

>

> 6) ICQ / AOL / MSN I currently have AOL Instant Messanger, my name is

unluckylou if anyone wants to contact me. I am not on as much as I once

was as I am extremely busy.

>

> 7) Webpage Not that talented

>

> 8) Birthday June 30............Cancer

>

> I would like to share with you that I am a divorced 46 yr. old woman,

been so for about 5 yrs. now. My " ex " and I are better friends now then we

were during our 20+ yrs of marriage!!

> I don't know how I just changed the color of this type!! Anyway, I'm

an RN by profession, on disability due to burn out. I lost my beloved

brother to the cruel disease of AIDS about 13 years ago. I just couldn't

seem to go back into active nursing after that. As you can see, I have my

hands full now.

> I have 2 other children. Both daughters.....my first born is 27,

dubbed mentally retarded about 20 yrs. ago, but quite high functioning.

The direct result of a very difficult pregnancy from toxiema. She was born

oxygen deprived, low birth weight, but yet full term. My second born is 25

and a career woman working with special needs children. She's engaged to

be married.

> Well, I " ve bent your " ears " enough about me. I haven't " chatted " with

anyone this much since I found my Dad gone that awful morning in September.

> Thank you so much for allowing me into your group. If I overstep my

limits in any way shape or form, please do not hesitate to let me know.

This seems like an extremely friendly list that I would like to be a part

of. Thanks Again.............Lou

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lou...Welcome to our group. You seem to really have your hands full

as being a carer don't you? I hope that you make time for you in all of

that! I'm sorry that you found your father...how awful.. . Looking

forward to chatting with you!!

Sheena:).

LouWarren wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Hi Lou:-)

Glad to meet you :-)

Boy, you sure have your hands full, so sorry to hear about your Dad,

and your 12 yr old daughter. What is her name?

I also have IBS (how do you handle this, are you on meds, I am having

my first major flare of this and have yet to learn how to treat it)

and another undiagnosed illness, under investigation.

Sounds like you are the carer for your mom, this must be very

emotionally and physically draining for you, especially while coping

with your dad, and your daughter. Does your 27 yr old live with you

also?

We also have a puppy (jack russell) in the family so I know how much

joy they bring :-)

I live in Australia, this is a great group, you will meet lots of

fantastic people here, welcome, welcome, welcome :-)

:-)

> So you can get to know some of us, a file called Members Profiles

has been sent with this subscription. So everyone can get to know

you, and your profile can be added, please fill out this little form.

Please don't feel like you have to fill it out and feel free to leave

blank any parts you don't want to fill in.

>

> 1) Name Lou

>

> 2) Location New York State

>

> 3) Personal Info I have IBS, High Blood Pressure, GERD, and BiPolar

Disorder. My Father recently passed away suddenly in his sleep on

9/14. I am the full time caregiver to my 12 yr. old adopted angel

who has many special needs, currently hospitialzed in Saratoga NY.

She had a mental breakdown from losing her " Poppy. " She was abused

in utero by drugs and alcohol and has many physical and mental health

problems. I also now live with my Mom who is wheelchair bound with

Parkinson's Disease, Polymiosistis, Diabetic, Dementia, Blood Clots,

Severe Arthritis, Depression, and is losing her voice due to the

Parkinson's. She has still not accepted my Dad's death as a reality

yet.

>

> 4) Interests The only thing I really enjoy anymore is being with my

daughters, my Basset Hound........truthfully I have been losing my

interest in my computer due to exhaustion and depression. I am very

glad to have found this list, I hope I fit in here.

>

> 5) Email Yes

>

> 6) ICQ / AOL / MSN I currently have AOL Instant Messanger, my name

is unluckylou if anyone wants to contact me. I am not on as much as

I once was as I am extremely busy.

>

> 7) Webpage Not that talented

>

> 8) Birthday June 30............Cancer

>

> I would like to share with you that I am a divorced 46 yr. old

woman, been so for about 5 yrs. now. My " ex " and I are better

friends now then we were during our 20+ yrs of marriage!!

> I don't know how I just changed the color of this type!! Anyway,

I'm an RN by profession, on disability due to burn out. I lost my

beloved brother to the cruel disease of AIDS about 13 years ago. I

just couldn't seem to go back into active nursing after that. As you

can see, I have my hands full now.

> I have 2 other children. Both daughters.....my first born is 27,

dubbed mentally retarded about 20 yrs. ago, but quite high

functioning. The direct result of a very difficult pregnancy from

toxiema. She was born oxygen deprived, low birth weight, but yet

full term. My second born is 25 and a career woman working with

special needs children. She's engaged to be married.

> Well, I " ve bent your " ears " enough about me. I haven't " chatted "

with anyone this much since I found my Dad gone that awful morning in

September.

> Thank you so much for allowing me into your group. If I overstep

my limits in any way shape or form, please do not hesitate to let me

know. This seems like an extremely friendly list that I would like

to be a part of. Thanks Again.............Lou

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

Welcome to the group! I am one of the moderators and I also run another list. moreoxygen. I mention it because you say you don't have any of the tapes. If you subscribe to moreoxygen, I have it set up to send you the breathing directions from many different programs so you can try them before buying the programs. Also, you can go to the http://www.lifelift.com website and find the directions for the lifelift breath.

Rashelle Haines, the author of LifeLift, is also on that list and posts to both. She is so busy right now that she doesn't have much time to post, but she told me she is reading the messages. I am assuming she is answering some of the messages off list so as not to generate the e-mail frenzy that occurs when she posts! She is so wonderful and helpful. I personally will be so glad when her life quiets down and she again has time to post to the lists. I know I have missed her and I am sure that a lot of others have too! :-)

Sincerely,~Karmahttp://loaves-n-fishes.com

newbie

Hello there...I am new to this list.I came across a video on the health and weight benefitsof "Breathing" and while researching on the web, I cameacross this egroup.I have yet to buy any program, and am trying to learn alittle more before doing so. I am a believer in alternative medicine in cooperation with the medicalindustry, but more importantly, I am a believer in God, and that He designed our bodies in a remarkable way, with many built in mechanisms for self-healing -- if only we would know them all!!!I am 36 and find it hard to believe I have a niece whois 28. We had a discussion on Thanksgiving about age-- and if I would have used my oxygen deprived brainfor a moment I would have known that she was closerto 30-- but in my minds eye, she was still 22. Boy, time F-L-I-E-S.I never get hung about age -- it's just a number that's real hard for me to remember. (I always have to subtract to the year 1964)Anyway, I also wanted to mention that I said a prayerfor . God has crossed my path with many peoplewho have attempted suicide -- thankfully none were successful. I hope the same is for .Also -- does anyone have an experience with Cancerand the benefits of this program. I know cancer cannot survive in an oxygen rich environment -- yet how to stop it... I know a 16-year old boywith terminal cancer (soft tissue -- fast spreading)..please keep the Fox family in your prayersLooking forward to reading the posts.Debbie (on Digest format)

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

....and Welcome! Your email sounds so cheerful. Thanks for sharing!

The breathing is helpful to everyone in many ways, to help with

stamina, energy and over-all well being. Its feeding the body inside

out and losing weight with it is an added bonus. You firm up and tone

and it helps strenghten your lungs. I read that for cancer patients,

the breathing helps to keep them calm with the anxiety of the disease

and brings down the blood pressure. If anything, there would be

difference in energy levels that are being depleted while fighting

this disease. I will keep the Fox family in my prayers. It might

be a great help to suggest breathing to your friend who is ill.

If they have tried everything else, breathing can't hurt and it just

may do wonders to give him an added boost of energy to feel

better, calmer, and clearing in mind because of the increased oxygen

benefits. As you have mentioned, we'll leave the rest up to the good

Lord.

God Bless you and again, welcome. Tig

> Hello there...

>

> I am new to this list.

>

> I came across a video on the health and weight benefits

> of " Breathing " and while researching on the web, I came

> across this egroup.

>

> I have yet to buy any program, and am trying to learn a

> little more before doing so. I am a believer in

> alternative medicine in cooperation with the medical

> industry, but more importantly, I am a believer in

> God, and that He designed our bodies in a remarkable

> way, with many built in mechanisms for self-healing

> -- if only we would know them all!!!

>

> I am 36 and find it hard to believe I have a niece who

> is 28. We had a discussion on Thanksgiving about age

> -- and if I would have used my oxygen deprived brain

> for a moment I would have known that she was closer

> to 30-- but in my minds eye, she was still 22.

> Boy, time F-L-I-E-S.

> I never get hung about age -- it's just a number

> that's real hard for me to remember.

> (I always have to subtract to the year 1964)

>

> Anyway, I also wanted to mention that I said a prayer

> for . God has crossed my path with many people

> who have attempted suicide -- thankfully none were

> successful. I hope the same is for .

>

> Also -- does anyone have an experience with Cancer

> and the benefits of this program. I know cancer

> cannot survive in an oxygen rich environment

> -- yet how to stop it... I know a 16-year old boy

> with terminal cancer (soft tissue -- fast spreading)

> ..please keep the Fox family in your prayers

>

> Looking forward to reading the posts.

>

> Debbie (on Digest format)

[Guest guest]

I don't know if Rashelle has mentioned it to the list before, but she helped her father tremendously using LifeLift with his illness. I believed she prolonged his life at least a year maybe more using Life Lift. I won't go into the details because it is a personal story and if she wants to share details that is up to her.

I just know from what she told me that it helped her father. I know it helps me feel better too. I am in no way sick! I am a very healthy person, just tend to be busier than I should be!

I got my carpets shampooed today! Maybe now I will feel like getting down on them and doing a workout. They are still stained from kids, but they are clean!

Have a great evening everyone,

Sincerely,~Karmahttp://loaves-n-fishes.com

Re: newbie

Hi Debbie,...and Welcome! Your email sounds so cheerful. Thanks for sharing!The breathing is helpful to everyone in many ways, to help with stamina, energy and over-all well being. Its feeding the body inside out and losing weight with it is an added bonus. You firm up and tone and it helps strenghten your lungs. I read that for cancer patients, the breathing helps to keep them calm with the anxiety of the disease and brings down the blood pressure. If anything, there would be difference in energy levels that are being depleted while fightingthis disease. I will keep the Fox family in my prayers. It might be a great help to suggest breathing to your friend who is ill.If they have tried everything else, breathing can't hurt and it just may do wonders to give him an added boost of energy to feel better, calmer, and clearing in mind because of the increased oxygen benefits. As you have mentioned, we'll leave the rest up to the good Lord.God Bless you and again, welcome. Tig > Hello there...> > I am new to this list.> > I came across a video on the health and weight benefits> of "Breathing" and while researching on the web, I came> across this egroup.> > I have yet to buy any program, and am trying to learn a> little more before doing so. I am a believer in > alternative medicine in cooperation with the medical> industry, but more importantly, I am a believer in > God, and that He designed our bodies in a remarkable > way, with many built in mechanisms for self-healing > -- if only we would know them all!!!> > I am 36 and find it hard to believe I have a niece who> is 28. We had a discussion on Thanksgiving about age> -- and if I would have used my oxygen deprived brain> for a moment I would have known that she was closer> to 30-- but in my minds eye, she was still 22. > Boy, time F-L-I-E-S.> I never get hung about age -- it's just a number > that's real hard for me to remember. > (I always have to subtract to the year 1964)> > Anyway, I also wanted to mention that I said a prayer> for . God has crossed my path with many people> who have attempted suicide -- thankfully none were > successful. I hope the same is for .> > Also -- does anyone have an experience with Cancer> and the benefits of this program. I know cancer > cannot survive in an oxygen rich environment > -- yet how to stop it... I know a 16-year old boy> with terminal cancer (soft tissue -- fast spreading)> ..please keep the Fox family in your prayers> > Looking forward to reading the posts.> > Debbie (on Digest format)

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

Welcome to our list. I think that you'll really enjoy it. Feel free to

ask any questions. We'll do what we can to help.

I've done Body Flex, Oxycise, Life Lift, and The Baywatch Bikini Breath.

I've had good inch loss with BF and LL. I had some physical problems crop

up while doing BF. I haven't been able to give Oxycise much of a chance

because it gives me bad sore throats. I'm still experimenting with the

BBB's, and I love LL. It's the best breathing program for me.

I'll be praying for the Fox family.

Love, Liz

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Welcome ! You are going to find a tons of information and support

here! Everyone here is so wonderful and they have a great chat room!

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