Guest guest Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Use heard u can put it in a cloriceptic bottle and mist it and inhale it. Also in the shower I take a gulp and hold it in my mouth as sing as I can stand it. It foams helps with mouth health and also helps with coffee stains. Yes coffee one of my remaining vices. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Did any one tried Baariz?, study on this supplement presented in the International AIDS conference in Cape Town, South Africa (July 2009), its being used in over 2 dozen countries. Presentation attached ________________________________ From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 11:16:33 PM Subject: Re: Hello Hi Flo! Well as long as your numbers are good and you're not on any meds you're doing something good. I'm glad you're trying to stay off the meds. I'm on Hydrogen Peroxide, Cat's Claw, Essiac, Pau D'Arco, Coconut oil, and Probiotics. I don't know on how many supplements you're on but you're not the only one. I for one feel great probably better than when i was diagnosed. Hydrogen Peroxide Oxygenates my body, Coconut oil is good for keeping the T-Cells high, Pau D'Arco and Cat's Claw enhance the immune system and fight fungus, Essiac cleanses the body ( as does the Hydrogen Peroxide) and Probiotics release good bacteria into the body. So that's my regimen. You might be perfect for that incurables program from the Herb Doctor. The kit is very pricey. But I'm sure it's worth a try. Right now I'm still dedicated to Hydrogen Peroxide therapy to see if indeed works. So far it's been working very well but it's too early to tell if it's the cure we're promised in the book " one minute cure " but I have kept everyone updated with my lab results. They seem to be improving without meds. Take care and I'm glad to see you on here. From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Did any one tried Baariz?, study on this supplement presented in the International AIDS conference in Cape Town, South Africa (July 2009), its being used in over 2 dozen countries. Presentation attached ________________________________ From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 11:16:33 PM Subject: Re: Hello Hi Flo! Well as long as your numbers are good and you're not on any meds you're doing something good. I'm glad you're trying to stay off the meds. I'm on Hydrogen Peroxide, Cat's Claw, Essiac, Pau D'Arco, Coconut oil, and Probiotics. I don't know on how many supplements you're on but you're not the only one. I for one feel great probably better than when i was diagnosed. Hydrogen Peroxide Oxygenates my body, Coconut oil is good for keeping the T-Cells high, Pau D'Arco and Cat's Claw enhance the immune system and fight fungus, Essiac cleanses the body ( as does the Hydrogen Peroxide) and Probiotics release good bacteria into the body. So that's my regimen. You might be perfect for that incurables program from the Herb Doctor. The kit is very pricey. But I'm sure it's worth a try. Right now I'm still dedicated to Hydrogen Peroxide therapy to see if indeed works. So far it's been working very well but it's too early to tell if it's the cure we're promised in the book " one minute cure " but I have kept everyone updated with my lab results. They seem to be improving without meds. Take care and I'm glad to see you on here. From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 What I precieved from your post is that I should omit the suppements and buy a jucier and start raw nutrients from fresh produce.I can do that.I would apperciate any infomation that I can come across in my efforts to win this so called battle. You stated ( properly combined ) please eliberate. > > > I tend to agree with your mom. I've been helping people out of the AIDS zone for over 25 years. Sometimes you come across people who seem to be doing all the right things but still having health problems. Ask them what they're taking and they come up with a gym bag full of supplements and things, many of which are toxic and interfere with health -- especially many of the protein products body builders take. Supplements are not absorbed as well as nutrients from whole foods. They make for very expensive urine. The money wasted on supplements would be better spent on fresh organic produce. In my book, less is more. Nothing beats raw fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds -- properly combined. Add more of these to your diet and eliminate more and more of the things that destroy health -- drugs, caffeine, alcohol, refined sugars and flour, animal products, grains in general (exception: sprouted grains) and medical doctors -- the number one cause of death, disfigurement and disease. > > About the only thing of value from the pharmacy is the instructions on bottles of liquids: SHAKE WELL! > > As long as you go to these quacks who call themselves HIV/AIDS specialists you are treading dangerous waters. Educate yourself. The truth shall set you free. The Internet is probably the best source of information, but be careful. There are lot of well-meaning people who don't know what they're they're talking about. Take you advice from healthy people. > > Ed > > sobehealthy.com > > > --Original Message----- > > From: Flo <champanelady@...> > cures for AIDS > Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 1:52 pm > Subject: Hello > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 What I precieved from your post is that I should omit the suppements and buy a jucier and start raw nutrients from fresh produce.I can do that.I would apperciate any infomation that I can come across in my efforts to win this so called battle. You stated ( properly combined ) please eliberate. > > > I tend to agree with your mom. I've been helping people out of the AIDS zone for over 25 years. Sometimes you come across people who seem to be doing all the right things but still having health problems. Ask them what they're taking and they come up with a gym bag full of supplements and things, many of which are toxic and interfere with health -- especially many of the protein products body builders take. Supplements are not absorbed as well as nutrients from whole foods. They make for very expensive urine. The money wasted on supplements would be better spent on fresh organic produce. In my book, less is more. Nothing beats raw fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds -- properly combined. Add more of these to your diet and eliminate more and more of the things that destroy health -- drugs, caffeine, alcohol, refined sugars and flour, animal products, grains in general (exception: sprouted grains) and medical doctors -- the number one cause of death, disfigurement and disease. > > About the only thing of value from the pharmacy is the instructions on bottles of liquids: SHAKE WELL! > > As long as you go to these quacks who call themselves HIV/AIDS specialists you are treading dangerous waters. Educate yourself. The truth shall set you free. The Internet is probably the best source of information, but be careful. There are lot of well-meaning people who don't know what they're they're talking about. Take you advice from healthy people. > > Ed > > sobehealthy.com > > > --Original Message----- > > From: Flo <champanelady@...> > cures for AIDS > Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 1:52 pm > Subject: Hello > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 Thanks Don for responding..Just for the record here I will list all of the supplements that I take...I take Probitic's ( KYO-Dophilus 9 ) Astragalus root extract ( 3x a day ) reishi mushroom 600mg ( 1xdaily )selenium 200 mcg ( 1x daily ) IP-6 Inositol ( 2 tablets daily ), ascorbic Acid ( with antioxidant bioflavonoids, crystalline powdwer ph 3.1* ), L- Glutatione 50mg daily, vitamin E 400 IU daily and B-complex 100, and Super Papaya enzyme plus and aloe vera juice when called for... Have you research these.?. From what I have read HIV/AIDS depletes the body of selenium and gluatione.( that is what I read ) Amonth ago I went in and had blood drawen to check these levels and mine returned at a very high level including magnisium...I would really like to read what others have to say about this. Florence From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 Thanks Don for responding..Just for the record here I will list all of the supplements that I take...I take Probitic's ( KYO-Dophilus 9 ) Astragalus root extract ( 3x a day ) reishi mushroom 600mg ( 1xdaily )selenium 200 mcg ( 1x daily ) IP-6 Inositol ( 2 tablets daily ), ascorbic Acid ( with antioxidant bioflavonoids, crystalline powdwer ph 3.1* ), L- Glutatione 50mg daily, vitamin E 400 IU daily and B-complex 100, and Super Papaya enzyme plus and aloe vera juice when called for... Have you research these.?. From what I have read HIV/AIDS depletes the body of selenium and gluatione.( that is what I read ) Amonth ago I went in and had blood drawen to check these levels and mine returned at a very high level including magnisium...I would really like to read what others have to say about this. Florence From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 Florence, I take most of the same supplements as you take but to to supplement the lack of glutathione, it is better to take N-Acetyl Cysteine, which helps the body produce it's own glutathione. I will soon start taking astragalus polysaccharide and cycloastragelon, both astragalus extracts. Best of health! Happytype > > From: Flo <champanelady> > Subject: Hello > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM > > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 Florence, I take most of the same supplements as you take but to to supplement the lack of glutathione, it is better to take N-Acetyl Cysteine, which helps the body produce it's own glutathione. I will soon start taking astragalus polysaccharide and cycloastragelon, both astragalus extracts. Best of health! Happytype > > From: Flo <champanelady> > Subject: Hello > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM > > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 Hi happytype, Can you share with us your sources for these astragalus extracts online? Thanks, Dom > From: happytype <happytype@...> > Subject: Re: Hello > cures for AIDS > Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:40 AM > > Florence, > > I take most of the same supplements as you take but to to > supplement the lack of glutathione, it is better to take > N-Acetyl Cysteine, which helps the body produce it's own > glutathione. > > I will soon start taking astragalus polysaccharide and > cycloastragelon, both astragalus extracts. > > Best of health! > > Happytype Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 Hi happytype, Can you share with us your sources for these astragalus extracts online? Thanks, Dom > From: happytype <happytype@...> > Subject: Re: Hello > cures for AIDS > Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:40 AM > > Florence, > > I take most of the same supplements as you take but to to > supplement the lack of glutathione, it is better to take > N-Acetyl Cysteine, which helps the body produce it's own > glutathione. > > I will soon start taking astragalus polysaccharide and > cycloastragelon, both astragalus extracts. > > Best of health! > > Happytype Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 One of the manufacturer of cycloastragelon is www.medicass.com and the other is http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/hitsanns2 good luck! Happytype > > > From: happytype <happytype@...> > > Subject: Re: Hello > > cures for AIDS > > Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:40 AM > > > > Florence, > > > > I take most of the same supplements as you take but to to > > supplement the lack of glutathione, it is better to take > > N-Acetyl Cysteine, which helps the body produce it's own > > glutathione. > > > > I will soon start taking astragalus polysaccharide and > > cycloastragelon, both astragalus extracts. > > > > Best of health! > > > > Happytype > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 One of the manufacturer of cycloastragelon is www.medicass.com and the other is http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/hitsanns2 good luck! Happytype > > > From: happytype <happytype@...> > > Subject: Re: Hello > > cures for AIDS > > Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:40 AM > > > > Florence, > > > > I take most of the same supplements as you take but to to > > supplement the lack of glutathione, it is better to take > > N-Acetyl Cysteine, which helps the body produce it's own > > glutathione. > > > > I will soon start taking astragalus polysaccharide and > > cycloastragelon, both astragalus extracts. > > > > Best of health! > > > > Happytype > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 I give you a few basics, but you should read up on Natural Hygtiene. My friend, Nison, has several excellent videos on youtube. Google him and the Raw Life Health Show. Fruit should always be eaten on an empty stomach. So it makes sense to start your day with fruit. Acid fruits and sweet fruits shouldn't be mixed. Melon: eat it alone or leave it alone. Concentrated proteins (animal products, nuts & seeds) should not be eaten with starches. They don't digest properly together. Proteins cause the body to secrete acid enzymes. Starches create alkaline enzymes. Together they neutralize each other and inhibit proper digestion. Our SAD (standard American diet) of meat and potatoes, meat/nut butter sandwiches, etc. are all unhealthy combinations. If you're going to have animal flesh, eat it with a green salad. If you want to have baked potato, eat that with a green salad. \ My friend, -Inez Matus, is a good source of health information. She has food-combining charts, and a very good recipe book (that includes cooked recipes with chicken and fish dishes for those in transition.) It's easiest for most people to work their way gradually to an 80% to 100% raw vegan diet. She is available for personal consultations and supervised fasting and feasting. Her email is hygieaz@.... She doesn't spend a lot of time on the compter, so be patient if you don't here from her immediately. There is also the Hippocrates Institute in West Palm Beach (if you can afford it) and the Anne Wigmore Institute in Puerto Rico where you can go to learn how to adapt to this lifestyle. Also, look for raw food support groups near you. Being with like-minded people makes it easier and more fun. It's totally rawsome! Ed 1 Hello > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2009 I give you a few basics, but you should read up on Natural Hygtiene. My friend, Nison, has several excellent videos on youtube. Google him and the Raw Life Health Show. Fruit should always be eaten on an empty stomach. So it makes sense to start your day with fruit. Acid fruits and sweet fruits shouldn't be mixed. Melon: eat it alone or leave it alone. Concentrated proteins (animal products, nuts & seeds) should not be eaten with starches. They don't digest properly together. Proteins cause the body to secrete acid enzymes. Starches create alkaline enzymes. Together they neutralize each other and inhibit proper digestion. Our SAD (standard American diet) of meat and potatoes, meat/nut butter sandwiches, etc. are all unhealthy combinations. If you're going to have animal flesh, eat it with a green salad. If you want to have baked potato, eat that with a green salad. \ My friend, -Inez Matus, is a good source of health information. She has food-combining charts, and a very good recipe book (that includes cooked recipes with chicken and fish dishes for those in transition.) It's easiest for most people to work their way gradually to an 80% to 100% raw vegan diet. She is available for personal consultations and supervised fasting and feasting. Her email is hygieaz@.... She doesn't spend a lot of time on the compter, so be patient if you don't here from her immediately. There is also the Hippocrates Institute in West Palm Beach (if you can afford it) and the Anne Wigmore Institute in Puerto Rico where you can go to learn how to adapt to this lifestyle. Also, look for raw food support groups near you. Being with like-minded people makes it easier and more fun. It's totally rawsome! Ed 1 Hello > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2009 Hi Flo, you are correct with Selenium and gluatione. Looks like you've done your homework. The only thing I probably wouldn't do is the papaya enzyme. It really doesn't benefit the body other than break down protiens. I take it after I've had a little too much meat. It seems like you're already taking enough for digestive and immune support. you have to be careful you don't lose too much weight. From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2009 Hi Flo, you are correct with Selenium and gluatione. Looks like you've done your homework. The only thing I probably wouldn't do is the papaya enzyme. It really doesn't benefit the body other than break down protiens. I take it after I've had a little too much meat. It seems like you're already taking enough for digestive and immune support. you have to be careful you don't lose too much weight. From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2009 I found this nice write up on the benefit of papaya. Immunity: How Fermented Papaya Could Strengthen Your Bodys Natural Defences Date: 01/06/05 Papaya is a tangy, sweet-tasting tropical fruit with bright orange flesh. Papaya is a tangy, sweet-tasting tropical fruit with bright orange flesh. It is not only a delicious treat for your taste buds but is also beneficial in terms of promoting good health. It contains papain enzymes that promote efficient digestion, and is also a rich source of vitamins A and C and potassium. Eminent researcher, professor Luc Montagnier, co-discoverer of the HIV virus and President of the World Foundation for AIDS Research & Prevention, has taken a particular interest in the medicinal properties of papaya. Like other scientists worldwide, Montagniers research has mainly focused on fermented papaya known as FPP (fermented papaya preparation) rather than fresh papaya fruit. According to Dr Montagnier, FPP has outstanding properties for fighting oxidative stress and stimulation of the immune system. Now an FPP supplement called Immunge has been developed by Japanese scientists. HSI is delighted to announce that Immunge has recently been launched in the UK and its immune-boosting properties are backed by more than 30 studies. How does fermented papaya maintain good health? FPP, the main ingredient in Immunge , is produced by the fermentation of green papaya the breakdown of carbohydrates, fats and proteins by yeast under special conditions over an eight-month period. Once fermented, the papaya is dried and ground into a fine powder. Nutritional analysis reveals that FPP contains beneficial amino acids and small sugar molecules called oligosaccharides, which have the ability to regulate and enhance your bodys antioxidant capacities in two ways. First, they directly destroy dangerous free radicals in the body, such as hydroxyl (the most dangerous among free radicals); and second, they enhance the activity of the bodys own antioxidant enzymes, such as superoxide dismutase (SOD) and glutathione peroxidase.1-3 Free radicals are highly reactive molecules that wreak havoc on your cells. They are produced during many of your bodys normal metabolic processes. However, you are also continually bombarded by free radicals from external sources, such as exposure to traffic pollution, cigarette smoke and radiation, and from the intake of food pesticides, fried and processed foods, and alcohol. When too many free radicals invade your system your cells become susceptible to damage. For example, excess free radicals are believed to be one of the main causes of the ageing process and a causative factor in many degenerative conditions including cataracts, wrinkles, age spots, arthritis and cancer. Because FPP helps neutralise free radicals, Immunge offers great potential as a protective agent. Helps ward off illness by strengthening your bodys natural defences Besides its anti-ageing effects, FPP has powerful immune-enhancing properties, as mentioned earlier. In particular, it helps boost your bodys first line of protection against infection by improving the efficiency of white blood cells known as macrophages that kill disease-causing microbes.4 Consequently, FPP is beneficial in protecting against and warding off colds, influenza and other infections. In addition, FPP increases the production of a chemical called interleukin that is secreted by macrophages. Interleukin plays an important role in wound healing and prevents the spread of infection.5 Research also shows that FPP enhances the activity of other white blood cells known as Natural Killer cells. Natural Killer cells contain granules with enzymes that can kill tumour cells and microbes.6 Powerful immune-boosting properties offer hope in the fight against AIDS Because of its effects on the immune system, Dr Montagnier recommends using FPP in combination with conventional AIDS therapy in the management of AIDS. In one study involving HIV patients, FPP increased the numbers of CD4 white blood cells, helped with weight gain and increased haemoglobin (a substance contained within red blood cells that is responsible for oxygenating the body) levels. CD4 cells are an important part of the immune system and people with AIDS often have a reduced number as HIV causes them to decrease making sufferers susceptible to opportunistic infections. What to take for best results Due to its dual action as both an anti-ageing product and as an immune enhancer Immunge can be taken as a general nutritional supplement or to help strengthen the body at times of ill-health. The recommended dosage for Immunge varies according to individual needs. As an anti-ageing product, one sachet daily is recommended either first thing in the morning or before going to bed at night. The powder should be dissolved under the tongue before swallowing and must be taken on an empty stomach. As a bolster for the immune system the suggested dose is two to three sachets a day for up to three days, then one sachet daily until health is restored. And in the treatment of degenerative conditions such as arthritis, two to three sachets a day is recommended. In most cases the beneficial effects, which build up over several weeks, are noticeable within one to three months. Contraindications: Studies show Immunge to be safe and free of side-effects. It can even be taken during pregnancy, under a doctors supervision, at one sachet a day for up to four months in duration. Those who are sensitive to fermented foods such as wine and bread or who have candidiasis may not be able to tolerate Immunge as the product contains yeast. In such cases it should be taken with care or avoided. 1. Santiago LA, Osato JA, Hiramatsu M, et al. Free radical scavenging action of FPP and its by-product. Free Radic Bio Med 1991;11(4):379-383. 2. Osata JA, Santiago LA, Mori A, et al. Antioxidant defences of Immunge. Magn Reson Med 1995;6:306-308. 3. Osata JA, Santiago LA, Mori A, Protective action of Immunge against oxidative stress and brain disorders. In: Oxidative Stress & Aging, Cutler RG, Packer L, Bertram J, Mori A, eds. Birkhauser Verlag 1995;6:306-308. 4. Osato JA, Afanasev I, Korkina L, et al. Free radical regulatory and immunomodulatory effects of FPP. Lipids, Health and Disease. Ong ASH, Niki E, Packer L, eds.1995;4:45-58. 5. Kiecolt-Glaser JK, Preacher KJ, MacCallum RC. Chronic stress and age related increases in the proinflammatory cytokine IL-6. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA. 2003;100(15):9090-5. 6. Aspinall R. Age-related changes in the function of T cells. Microsc Res Tech 2003;62(6):508-13. This article was taken from http://www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/natural-health-articles/immunity/fermented-pap\ aya-strengthen-natural-defences-00629.html cures for AIDS From: donjuan69uni@... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:35:32 -0800 Subject: Re: Hello Hi Flo, you are correct with Selenium and gluatione. Looks like you've done your homework. The only thing I probably wouldn't do is the papaya enzyme. It really doesn't benefit the body other than break down protiens. I take it after I've had a little too much meat. It seems like you're already taking enough for digestive and immune support. you have to be careful you don't lose too much weight. From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2009 I found this nice write up on the benefit of papaya. Immunity: How Fermented Papaya Could Strengthen Your Bodys Natural Defences Date: 01/06/05 Papaya is a tangy, sweet-tasting tropical fruit with bright orange flesh. Papaya is a tangy, sweet-tasting tropical fruit with bright orange flesh. It is not only a delicious treat for your taste buds but is also beneficial in terms of promoting good health. It contains papain enzymes that promote efficient digestion, and is also a rich source of vitamins A and C and potassium. Eminent researcher, professor Luc Montagnier, co-discoverer of the HIV virus and President of the World Foundation for AIDS Research & Prevention, has taken a particular interest in the medicinal properties of papaya. Like other scientists worldwide, Montagniers research has mainly focused on fermented papaya known as FPP (fermented papaya preparation) rather than fresh papaya fruit. According to Dr Montagnier, FPP has outstanding properties for fighting oxidative stress and stimulation of the immune system. Now an FPP supplement called Immunge has been developed by Japanese scientists. HSI is delighted to announce that Immunge has recently been launched in the UK and its immune-boosting properties are backed by more than 30 studies. How does fermented papaya maintain good health? FPP, the main ingredient in Immunge , is produced by the fermentation of green papaya the breakdown of carbohydrates, fats and proteins by yeast under special conditions over an eight-month period. Once fermented, the papaya is dried and ground into a fine powder. Nutritional analysis reveals that FPP contains beneficial amino acids and small sugar molecules called oligosaccharides, which have the ability to regulate and enhance your bodys antioxidant capacities in two ways. First, they directly destroy dangerous free radicals in the body, such as hydroxyl (the most dangerous among free radicals); and second, they enhance the activity of the bodys own antioxidant enzymes, such as superoxide dismutase (SOD) and glutathione peroxidase.1-3 Free radicals are highly reactive molecules that wreak havoc on your cells. They are produced during many of your bodys normal metabolic processes. However, you are also continually bombarded by free radicals from external sources, such as exposure to traffic pollution, cigarette smoke and radiation, and from the intake of food pesticides, fried and processed foods, and alcohol. When too many free radicals invade your system your cells become susceptible to damage. For example, excess free radicals are believed to be one of the main causes of the ageing process and a causative factor in many degenerative conditions including cataracts, wrinkles, age spots, arthritis and cancer. Because FPP helps neutralise free radicals, Immunge offers great potential as a protective agent. Helps ward off illness by strengthening your bodys natural defences Besides its anti-ageing effects, FPP has powerful immune-enhancing properties, as mentioned earlier. In particular, it helps boost your bodys first line of protection against infection by improving the efficiency of white blood cells known as macrophages that kill disease-causing microbes.4 Consequently, FPP is beneficial in protecting against and warding off colds, influenza and other infections. In addition, FPP increases the production of a chemical called interleukin that is secreted by macrophages. Interleukin plays an important role in wound healing and prevents the spread of infection.5 Research also shows that FPP enhances the activity of other white blood cells known as Natural Killer cells. Natural Killer cells contain granules with enzymes that can kill tumour cells and microbes.6 Powerful immune-boosting properties offer hope in the fight against AIDS Because of its effects on the immune system, Dr Montagnier recommends using FPP in combination with conventional AIDS therapy in the management of AIDS. In one study involving HIV patients, FPP increased the numbers of CD4 white blood cells, helped with weight gain and increased haemoglobin (a substance contained within red blood cells that is responsible for oxygenating the body) levels. CD4 cells are an important part of the immune system and people with AIDS often have a reduced number as HIV causes them to decrease making sufferers susceptible to opportunistic infections. What to take for best results Due to its dual action as both an anti-ageing product and as an immune enhancer Immunge can be taken as a general nutritional supplement or to help strengthen the body at times of ill-health. The recommended dosage for Immunge varies according to individual needs. As an anti-ageing product, one sachet daily is recommended either first thing in the morning or before going to bed at night. The powder should be dissolved under the tongue before swallowing and must be taken on an empty stomach. As a bolster for the immune system the suggested dose is two to three sachets a day for up to three days, then one sachet daily until health is restored. And in the treatment of degenerative conditions such as arthritis, two to three sachets a day is recommended. In most cases the beneficial effects, which build up over several weeks, are noticeable within one to three months. Contraindications: Studies show Immunge to be safe and free of side-effects. It can even be taken during pregnancy, under a doctors supervision, at one sachet a day for up to four months in duration. Those who are sensitive to fermented foods such as wine and bread or who have candidiasis may not be able to tolerate Immunge as the product contains yeast. In such cases it should be taken with care or avoided. 1. Santiago LA, Osato JA, Hiramatsu M, et al. Free radical scavenging action of FPP and its by-product. Free Radic Bio Med 1991;11(4):379-383. 2. Osata JA, Santiago LA, Mori A, et al. Antioxidant defences of Immunge. Magn Reson Med 1995;6:306-308. 3. Osata JA, Santiago LA, Mori A, Protective action of Immunge against oxidative stress and brain disorders. In: Oxidative Stress & Aging, Cutler RG, Packer L, Bertram J, Mori A, eds. Birkhauser Verlag 1995;6:306-308. 4. Osato JA, Afanasev I, Korkina L, et al. Free radical regulatory and immunomodulatory effects of FPP. Lipids, Health and Disease. Ong ASH, Niki E, Packer L, eds.1995;4:45-58. 5. Kiecolt-Glaser JK, Preacher KJ, MacCallum RC. Chronic stress and age related increases in the proinflammatory cytokine IL-6. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA. 2003;100(15):9090-5. 6. Aspinall R. Age-related changes in the function of T cells. Microsc Res Tech 2003;62(6):508-13. This article was taken from http://www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/natural-health-articles/immunity/fermented-pap\ aya-strengthen-natural-defences-00629.html cures for AIDS From: donjuan69uni@... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:35:32 -0800 Subject: Re: Hello Hi Flo, you are correct with Selenium and gluatione. Looks like you've done your homework. The only thing I probably wouldn't do is the papaya enzyme. It really doesn't benefit the body other than break down protiens. I take it after I've had a little too much meat. It seems like you're already taking enough for digestive and immune support. you have to be careful you don't lose too much weight. From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2009 Oh wow. Well I know papaya eaten raw or in fruit form was beneficial for the immune system but most papaya enzyme pills didn't have much immune benefits, the ones I tried a while back were merely for digestive purposes. They had very little vitamin C. I'll look around and see if there's any other papaya capsules or pills at other vitamin stores. I bought mine at GNC I haven't looked any where else for them. Thanks for the info From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2009 Oh wow. Well I know papaya eaten raw or in fruit form was beneficial for the immune system but most papaya enzyme pills didn't have much immune benefits, the ones I tried a while back were merely for digestive purposes. They had very little vitamin C. I'll look around and see if there's any other papaya capsules or pills at other vitamin stores. I bought mine at GNC I haven't looked any where else for them. Thanks for the info From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 21, 2009 Nobody here has tried it because on the site there is no link to purchase it. It is just a bunch of info with no way to buy From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM Â I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 21, 2009 I found the video. It's in Arabic or something that I could NOT understand. I actually just had a sort of instant distaste from all of it, and I'll admit because it looked just like another terrorist video. Guy in long beard in front of a white wall talking something I could not understand with subtitles that I didn't really believe. I mean, the Pres of Iran says there's no gay people in Iran! And in the middle of some place where people get killed for being gay, there's a place that has the cure for AIDS. I don't know... I tried the MMS1. Somebody else has to try the Baariz! LOL! From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM  I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive...My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 23, 2009 Well my definition of " cure " is simply just getting rid of the problem. I am aware the anti-body may always be present in our bodies forever but just because you have the anti-body doesn't mean you have the problem. When our bodies are exposed to something like HIV or Hep for instance our bodies make these antibodies. Our bodies are like computers and keep track of everything that goes on in it. Many people on here think HIV isn't real and that it's all in you head, and everyone here in entitled to their opinions but my goal is to just have it eliminated from the body. The Anti-body can stay but the virus can not... From: NS <calmlotusflower@...> Subject: Re: Hello cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:59 AM  Don , I was wondering what the definition of " cured " is. What is it that you are looking for; is it blood markers, how you feel...? Just wondering as you said it was too early to tell if H2O2 is a cure. You know the antibody that they test for will ideally never go away, right? I didn't know they even had a test that showed a cure. > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...> > Subject: Hello > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM > > >  > > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 23, 2009 No, I have never heard of that. do you have a link to where I can get more information on it? From: Flo <champanelady> Subject: Hello cures for AIDS@grou ps.com Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM  I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many supplements. I don't agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
