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I'm sure Dr. is a wonderful and intelligent human being, you can't just go

on ONE doctors word.  Like I said to each their own. 

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

 

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

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> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

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> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

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> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either....I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

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I'm sure Dr. is a wonderful and intelligent human being, you can't just go

on ONE doctors word.  Like I said to each their own. 

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

 

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

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> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

> > > > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

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> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either....I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

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I was just adding to your email where Luc Montagnier says pretty much the same

thing.  That's two...

 

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

 

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

> > > > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

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> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either.....I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

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I was just adding to your email where Luc Montagnier says pretty much the same

thing.  That's two...

 

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

 

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

> > > > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

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> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either.....I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

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Oh that wasn't me who talked about what Montagnier said but I do see your

point.  However what you said about Dr. finding that HIV doesn't exist in

" clean healthy bodies " , I would assume it's true because a " Clean and healthy

body " would be disease free.  Other wise it would not be " clean and healthy "

LOL! see what I mean? But I do believe that anything bad can be removed from a

healthy body.  AIDS/HIV or any disease we have stems from a LOWERED IMMUNE

system.  Our body begins to malfunction. We can fight off just about anything

with GOOD NUTRITION and proper exercise.  The problem comes from the lack of

nutrients we are receiving from our foods, our soils are so depleted and

polluted, and we have turned to packaged junk foods with no nutrients. Our

bodies can not run without the right fuel, so we begin to decay and the bugs

move into us.  AIDS is so rampid in these 3rd world countries, their

nutritional intake is even worse than ours in the

USA. We must CHANGE and get back to the basics of life if we want to live a

full life. 

 

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

 

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

> > > > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

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> > > >

> > > >  

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> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either.....I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

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Oh that wasn't me who talked about what Montagnier said but I do see your

point.  However what you said about Dr. finding that HIV doesn't exist in

" clean healthy bodies " , I would assume it's true because a " Clean and healthy

body " would be disease free.  Other wise it would not be " clean and healthy "

LOL! see what I mean? But I do believe that anything bad can be removed from a

healthy body.  AIDS/HIV or any disease we have stems from a LOWERED IMMUNE

system.  Our body begins to malfunction. We can fight off just about anything

with GOOD NUTRITION and proper exercise.  The problem comes from the lack of

nutrients we are receiving from our foods, our soils are so depleted and

polluted, and we have turned to packaged junk foods with no nutrients. Our

bodies can not run without the right fuel, so we begin to decay and the bugs

move into us.  AIDS is so rampid in these 3rd world countries, their

nutritional intake is even worse than ours in the

USA. We must CHANGE and get back to the basics of life if we want to live a

full life. 

 

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

 

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

> > > > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either.....I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

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Thanks for welcoming me to the group. Yes, hiv is very real. For someone to

say that hiv is a myth, just baffles me. When you go through sickness yourself

and see others suffer as well (with or without taking meds), I'm sorry you know

that there's no myth around a sexually transmitted virus. People have

unprotected sex, they exchange infected body fluids, and they become ill shortly

afterwards! That is no freakin' myth!

How to treat it? Ok, now that's another issue that can be debated. I'm not

feeling that the hiv anti-virals are safe over a long period of time. My

biggest concern is what it would do to my liver. I just spoke with a guy online

the other day, who is hiv+, and he looked very healthy. I asked him was he on

hiv meds and he said that he was taking one pill a day. I asked him about the

side effects and he said they only lasted about a week and his body adjusted.

He said he's doing fine now and he is now undetectable. He says the meds have

definitely helped him.

While we are all skeptical of the hiv=aids theory, we still need to look at both

sides and give credit to the fact that yes some people out there are doing much

better since taking the meds, some are not. The virus does not behave the same

in everyone. Both sides need to be weighed and we all need to have an

open-mind. Of course, no one wants to believe in hiv and no one wants to take

those pills.

I have tried the Beck Protocol, the Silver Pulsar, and taken great amounts of

silver. I went to get tested and I am still positive. Some of the great AIDS

dissidents who were hiv+ died an early death believing that hiv was not the

cause of AIDS (ex: Maggoire and Mr. Graves). I'm sorry, but you can't

ignore these things. There are others that I've read about online that were

positive and died early believing that hiv was a myth. Let's say hiv is a myth.

Ok, that's fine BUT something is making people sick after a risky sex encounter

and they usually end up dying years later. All those deaths do not strictly

relate to frequent drug use, poppers, partying, etc. Explain that please?

I am very open to hearing ALL views because it's my life and in the end I have

to decide for myself. If you are positive and reading this, you have to decide

for yourself as well. If that Ed guy gets upset with what I've said, I could

care less. Everyone has a right to be heard and voice how they feel. By

hearing multiple views, we can all come to a conclusion for what's best for our

health and our lives. God bless this group and may we all find the solutions

and inner peace that we seek for our health and our lives.

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 9:05:24 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

I agree with you 100%. I had the same symptoms. Although many of us can't seem

to level on what HIV/AIDS is I refuse to believe that it doesn't exist. I go

visit AIDS patients all the time and make clothing donations to them. To me

it's very real. They're not sick and dying because they want to. But hey, to

each their own. I'm glad to see you on this group.

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex.. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

> > > > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

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Thanks for welcoming me to the group. Yes, hiv is very real. For someone to

say that hiv is a myth, just baffles me. When you go through sickness yourself

and see others suffer as well (with or without taking meds), I'm sorry you know

that there's no myth around a sexually transmitted virus. People have

unprotected sex, they exchange infected body fluids, and they become ill shortly

afterwards! That is no freakin' myth!

How to treat it? Ok, now that's another issue that can be debated. I'm not

feeling that the hiv anti-virals are safe over a long period of time. My

biggest concern is what it would do to my liver. I just spoke with a guy online

the other day, who is hiv+, and he looked very healthy. I asked him was he on

hiv meds and he said that he was taking one pill a day. I asked him about the

side effects and he said they only lasted about a week and his body adjusted.

He said he's doing fine now and he is now undetectable. He says the meds have

definitely helped him.

While we are all skeptical of the hiv=aids theory, we still need to look at both

sides and give credit to the fact that yes some people out there are doing much

better since taking the meds, some are not. The virus does not behave the same

in everyone. Both sides need to be weighed and we all need to have an

open-mind. Of course, no one wants to believe in hiv and no one wants to take

those pills.

I have tried the Beck Protocol, the Silver Pulsar, and taken great amounts of

silver. I went to get tested and I am still positive. Some of the great AIDS

dissidents who were hiv+ died an early death believing that hiv was not the

cause of AIDS (ex: Maggoire and Mr. Graves). I'm sorry, but you can't

ignore these things. There are others that I've read about online that were

positive and died early believing that hiv was a myth. Let's say hiv is a myth.

Ok, that's fine BUT something is making people sick after a risky sex encounter

and they usually end up dying years later. All those deaths do not strictly

relate to frequent drug use, poppers, partying, etc. Explain that please?

I am very open to hearing ALL views because it's my life and in the end I have

to decide for myself. If you are positive and reading this, you have to decide

for yourself as well. If that Ed guy gets upset with what I've said, I could

care less. Everyone has a right to be heard and voice how they feel. By

hearing multiple views, we can all come to a conclusion for what's best for our

health and our lives. God bless this group and may we all find the solutions

and inner peace that we seek for our health and our lives.

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 9:05:24 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

I agree with you 100%. I had the same symptoms. Although many of us can't seem

to level on what HIV/AIDS is I refuse to believe that it doesn't exist. I go

visit AIDS patients all the time and make clothing donations to them. To me

it's very real. They're not sick and dying because they want to. But hey, to

each their own. I'm glad to see you on this group.

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex.. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

> > > > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

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> > > >

> > > > Â

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> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

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Hello,

There is definitely something making people sick, and I will share a

story of an ex. No drugs of any kind and no diagnosis until he became

very ill. He was so incredibly weak and sick that I was afraid he

might not make it. After a month or so on antivirals he was doing much

better, although he had some side effects. This is a guy who never

touched any drugs and rarely drank alcohol except maybe wine with

dinner occasionally. When he tested positive he had around 80 t cells

and a viral load over 200,000. What either of these numbers means can

be debated, of course.

I have been on and off meds, and recently had a viral load over

100,000 even though I felt great. My t cells were about 180, so a bit

low but not terrible. I had just started a very promising regimen

using Young Living essential oils, but chose to go back on antivirals

for 2 months to hopefully help bring things back into balance. After

that my t cells were a little up to around 225 and viral load down to

70 or so. I don't know to what extent these numbers have significance

to HIV, but the body definitely needs t cells to be healthy and fight

disease.

I believe it is super important to detox the body through eating

better and eliminating the many chemicals from our everyday products,

as well as colon cleansing and then cleansing the other organs-

especially the liver for anyone with a history of drug use (HIV drugs

or other).

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

wrote:

> Thanks for welcoming me to the group. Yes, hiv is very real. For

> someone to say that hiv is a myth, just baffles me. When you go

> through sickness yourself and see others suffer as well (with or

> without taking meds), I'm sorry you know that there's no myth around

> a sexually transmitted virus. People have unprotected sex, they

> exchange infected body fluids, and they become ill shortly

> afterwards! That is no freakin' myth!

>

> How to treat it? Ok, now that's another issue that can be debated.

> I'm not feeling that the hiv anti-virals are safe over a long period

> of time. My biggest concern is what it would do to my liver. I

> just spoke with a guy online the other day, who is hiv+, and he

> looked very healthy. I asked him was he on hiv meds and he said

> that he was taking one pill a day. I asked him about the side

> effects and he said they only lasted about a week and his body

> adjusted. He said he's doing fine now and he is now undetectable.

> He says the meds have definitely helped him.

>

> While we are all skeptical of the hiv=aids theory, we still need to

> look at both sides and give credit to the fact that yes some people

> out there are doing much better since taking the meds, some are

> not. The virus does not behave the same in everyone. Both sides

> need to be weighed and we all need to have an open-mind. Of course,

> no one wants to believe in hiv and no one wants to take those pills.

>

> I have tried the Beck Protocol, the Silver Pulsar, and taken great

> amounts of silver. I went to get tested and I am still positive.

> Some of the great AIDS dissidents who were hiv+ died an early death

> believing that hiv was not the cause of AIDS (ex: Maggoire

> and Mr. Graves). I'm sorry, but you can't ignore these things.

> There are others that I've read about online that were positive and

> died early believing that hiv was a myth. Let's say hiv is a myth.

> Ok, that's fine BUT something is making people sick after a risky

> sex encounter and they usually end up dying years later. All those

> deaths do not strictly relate to frequent drug use, poppers,

> partying, etc. Explain that please?

>

> I am very open to hearing ALL views because it's my life and in the

> end I have to decide for myself. If you are positive and reading

> this, you have to decide for yourself as well. If that Ed guy gets

> upset with what I've said, I could care less. Everyone has a right

> to be heard and voice how they feel. By hearing multiple views, we

> can all come to a conclusion for what's best for our health and our

> lives. God bless this group and may we all find the solutions and

> inner peace that we seek for our health and our lives.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

> cures for AIDS

> Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 9:05:24 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Hello

>

>

> I agree with you 100%. I had the same symptoms. Although many of

> us can't seem to level on what HIV/AIDS is I refuse to believe that

> it doesn't exist. I go visit AIDS patients all the time and make

> clothing donations to them. To me it's very real. They're not sick

> and dying because they want to. But hey, to each their own. I'm

> glad to see you on this group.

>

>

>

>

> From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

> Subject: Re: Hello

> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

>

>

>

> Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower)

> explains things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person

> who is also HIV+, I can attest to the fact that this HIV thing or

> whatever you wanna call it, is REAL. Since being diagnosed a few

> years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic changes in my

> health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I have

> spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or

> that the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say

> that the drugs have aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer

> drugs are alot better than they used to be. There's all kinds of

> stories out there. One has to make up his/her own mind for him/

> herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely making us

> sick and it is definitely related to sex.. I came down with the high

> fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands

> still swollen years later). A few months

> later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness,

> whether you believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more

> posts and voicing my opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

>

>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> From: NS <calmlotusflower@ >

>>>> Subject: Re: Hello

>>>> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

>>>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:59 AM

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Â

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Don , I was wondering what the definition of " cured " is. What

>>>> is it that you are looking for; is it blood markers, how you

>>>> feel...? Just wondering as you said it was too early to tell if

>>>> H2O2 is a cure. You know the antibody that they test for will

>>>> ideally never go away, right? I didn't know they even had a test

>>>> that showed

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Hello,

There is definitely something making people sick, and I will share a

story of an ex. No drugs of any kind and no diagnosis until he became

very ill. He was so incredibly weak and sick that I was afraid he

might not make it. After a month or so on antivirals he was doing much

better, although he had some side effects. This is a guy who never

touched any drugs and rarely drank alcohol except maybe wine with

dinner occasionally. When he tested positive he had around 80 t cells

and a viral load over 200,000. What either of these numbers means can

be debated, of course.

I have been on and off meds, and recently had a viral load over

100,000 even though I felt great. My t cells were about 180, so a bit

low but not terrible. I had just started a very promising regimen

using Young Living essential oils, but chose to go back on antivirals

for 2 months to hopefully help bring things back into balance. After

that my t cells were a little up to around 225 and viral load down to

70 or so. I don't know to what extent these numbers have significance

to HIV, but the body definitely needs t cells to be healthy and fight

disease.

I believe it is super important to detox the body through eating

better and eliminating the many chemicals from our everyday products,

as well as colon cleansing and then cleansing the other organs-

especially the liver for anyone with a history of drug use (HIV drugs

or other).

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

wrote:

> Thanks for welcoming me to the group. Yes, hiv is very real. For

> someone to say that hiv is a myth, just baffles me. When you go

> through sickness yourself and see others suffer as well (with or

> without taking meds), I'm sorry you know that there's no myth around

> a sexually transmitted virus. People have unprotected sex, they

> exchange infected body fluids, and they become ill shortly

> afterwards! That is no freakin' myth!

>

> How to treat it? Ok, now that's another issue that can be debated.

> I'm not feeling that the hiv anti-virals are safe over a long period

> of time. My biggest concern is what it would do to my liver. I

> just spoke with a guy online the other day, who is hiv+, and he

> looked very healthy. I asked him was he on hiv meds and he said

> that he was taking one pill a day. I asked him about the side

> effects and he said they only lasted about a week and his body

> adjusted. He said he's doing fine now and he is now undetectable.

> He says the meds have definitely helped him.

>

> While we are all skeptical of the hiv=aids theory, we still need to

> look at both sides and give credit to the fact that yes some people

> out there are doing much better since taking the meds, some are

> not. The virus does not behave the same in everyone. Both sides

> need to be weighed and we all need to have an open-mind. Of course,

> no one wants to believe in hiv and no one wants to take those pills.

>

> I have tried the Beck Protocol, the Silver Pulsar, and taken great

> amounts of silver. I went to get tested and I am still positive.

> Some of the great AIDS dissidents who were hiv+ died an early death

> believing that hiv was not the cause of AIDS (ex: Maggoire

> and Mr. Graves). I'm sorry, but you can't ignore these things.

> There are others that I've read about online that were positive and

> died early believing that hiv was a myth. Let's say hiv is a myth.

> Ok, that's fine BUT something is making people sick after a risky

> sex encounter and they usually end up dying years later. All those

> deaths do not strictly relate to frequent drug use, poppers,

> partying, etc. Explain that please?

>

> I am very open to hearing ALL views because it's my life and in the

> end I have to decide for myself. If you are positive and reading

> this, you have to decide for yourself as well. If that Ed guy gets

> upset with what I've said, I could care less. Everyone has a right

> to be heard and voice how they feel. By hearing multiple views, we

> can all come to a conclusion for what's best for our health and our

> lives. God bless this group and may we all find the solutions and

> inner peace that we seek for our health and our lives.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

> cures for AIDS

> Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 9:05:24 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Hello

>

>

> I agree with you 100%. I had the same symptoms. Although many of

> us can't seem to level on what HIV/AIDS is I refuse to believe that

> it doesn't exist. I go visit AIDS patients all the time and make

> clothing donations to them. To me it's very real. They're not sick

> and dying because they want to. But hey, to each their own. I'm

> glad to see you on this group.

>

>

>

>

> From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

> Subject: Re: Hello

> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

>

>

>

> Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower)

> explains things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person

> who is also HIV+, I can attest to the fact that this HIV thing or

> whatever you wanna call it, is REAL. Since being diagnosed a few

> years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic changes in my

> health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I have

> spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or

> that the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say

> that the drugs have aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer

> drugs are alot better than they used to be. There's all kinds of

> stories out there. One has to make up his/her own mind for him/

> herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely making us

> sick and it is definitely related to sex.. I came down with the high

> fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands

> still swollen years later). A few months

> later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness,

> whether you believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more

> posts and voicing my opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

>

>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> From: NS <calmlotusflower@ >

>>>> Subject: Re: Hello

>>>> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

>>>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:59 AM

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Â

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Don , I was wondering what the definition of " cured " is. What

>>>> is it that you are looking for; is it blood markers, how you

>>>> feel...? Just wondering as you said it was too early to tell if

>>>> H2O2 is a cure. You know the antibody that they test for will

>>>> ideally never go away, right? I didn't know they even had a test

>>>> that showed

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Thank you! and very well said.  I could not have said this better myself. 

Like you I'm also on the fence about this HIV=AIDS theory.  I do believe both

AIDS and HIV do exist.  However the whole meds issue is still debatable.  Yes

I have friends who are undetecable on meds but also their faces are wasting away

and so are their bodies and their livers.  I joined this group to learn from

others and to also pass my knowledge around.  I have made many friends that I

keep in contact with here by e-mail or phone.  It just upsets me at times that

people come to this group looking for support and advise yet they get chased

away by certain individuals who just bully them by calling them crazy and

stupid.  I have been doing very well with Natural Herbs and Oxygen.  Right now

at my work place everyone around me is sick except for me.  When I did get sick

a combination of Cat's Claw, Pau D'Arco and Essiac cleared up my flu up in one

day!  It's all about

taking control of your life and doing the right thing.  Don't get the idea

that you can't live without these toxic meds.   My mother is on dialysis

because her doctors never told her that Metformin is poison to the kidneys. 

Metformin is the drug that 90% of diabetics are on. 

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex.. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

> > > > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Thank you! and very well said.  I could not have said this better myself. 

Like you I'm also on the fence about this HIV=AIDS theory.  I do believe both

AIDS and HIV do exist.  However the whole meds issue is still debatable.  Yes

I have friends who are undetecable on meds but also their faces are wasting away

and so are their bodies and their livers.  I joined this group to learn from

others and to also pass my knowledge around.  I have made many friends that I

keep in contact with here by e-mail or phone.  It just upsets me at times that

people come to this group looking for support and advise yet they get chased

away by certain individuals who just bully them by calling them crazy and

stupid.  I have been doing very well with Natural Herbs and Oxygen.  Right now

at my work place everyone around me is sick except for me.  When I did get sick

a combination of Cat's Claw, Pau D'Arco and Essiac cleared up my flu up in one

day!  It's all about

taking control of your life and doing the right thing.  Don't get the idea

that you can't live without these toxic meds.   My mother is on dialysis

because her doctors never told her that Metformin is poison to the kidneys. 

Metformin is the drug that 90% of diabetics are on. 

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex.. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

> > > > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Thanks you for letting me know about the passing away of my hero and a great

incarnation of one of the the Manu Putra (Son of Man) Boyd Graves.

I have spoken to Boyd Graves a few times after buying is book State Origin: The

Evidence of The Laboratory Birth of AIDS and he was very inspired man for sure.

Krsna came for him as plan, I use to speak to him on the phone, Boyd Graves, I

use to say to him Hey Son of God, Hey Manu Putra, he would respond with “ you

don’t know how you make me feel when you say that” Son of Man, I will miss you.

But as you know from our talk together about the true self the eternal soul,

which will never dies.

One of the most fundamental question which has been ask in relationship to the

Special Virus Program. Was presented by Boyd Graves. The United States must be

compelled to answer. “By what natural mechanism does the Icelandic Sheep

disease, Visna, appear in the genetic sequence of HIV”?

cures for AIDS

From: nonyobiznazz@...

Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:53:20 -0800

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

Thanks for welcoming me to the group. Yes, hiv is very real. For someone to say

that hiv is a myth, just baffles me. When you go through sickness yourself and

see others suffer as well (with or without taking meds), I'm sorry you know that

there's no myth around a sexually transmitted virus. People have unprotected

sex, they exchange infected body fluids, and they become ill shortly afterwards!

That is no freakin' myth!

How to treat it? Ok, now that's another issue that can be debated. I'm not

feeling that the hiv anti-virals are safe over a long period of time. My biggest

concern is what it would do to my liver. I just spoke with a guy online the

other day, who is hiv+, and he looked very healthy. I asked him was he on hiv

meds and he said that he was taking one pill a day. I asked him about the side

effects and he said they only lasted about a week and his body adjusted. He said

he's doing fine now and he is now undetectable. He says the meds have definitely

helped him.

While we are all skeptical of the hiv=aids theory, we still need to look at both

sides and give credit to the fact that yes some people out there are doing much

better since taking the meds, some are not. The virus does not behave the same

in everyone. Both sides need to be weighed and we all need to have an open-mind.

Of course, no one wants to believe in hiv and no one wants to take those pills.

I have tried the Beck Protocol, the Silver Pulsar, and taken great amounts of

silver. I went to get tested and I am still positive. Some of the great AIDS

dissidents who were hiv+ died an early death believing that hiv was not the

cause of AIDS (ex: Maggoire and Mr. Graves). I'm sorry, but you can't

ignore these things. There are others that I've read about online that were

positive and died early believing that hiv was a myth. Let's say hiv is a myth.

Ok, that's fine BUT something is making people sick after a risky sex encounter

and they usually end up dying years later. All those deaths do not strictly

relate to frequent drug use, poppers, partying, etc. Explain that please?

I am very open to hearing ALL views because it's my life and in the end I have

to decide for myself. If you are positive and reading this, you have to decide

for yourself as well. If that Ed guy gets upset with what I've said, I could

care less. Everyone has a right to be heard and voice how they feel. By hearing

multiple views, we can all come to a conclusion for what's best for our health

and our lives. God bless this group and may we all find the solutions and inner

peace that we seek for our health and our lives.

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 9:05:24 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

I agree with you 100%. I had the same symptoms. Although many of us can't seem

to level on what HIV/AIDS is I refuse to believe that it doesn't exist. I go

visit AIDS patients all the time and make clothing donations to them. To me it's

very real. They're not sick and dying because they want to. But hey, to each

their own. I'm glad to see you on this group.

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex.. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

> > > > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Thanks you for letting me know about the passing away of my hero and a great

incarnation of one of the the Manu Putra (Son of Man) Boyd Graves.

I have spoken to Boyd Graves a few times after buying is book State Origin: The

Evidence of The Laboratory Birth of AIDS and he was very inspired man for sure.

Krsna came for him as plan, I use to speak to him on the phone, Boyd Graves, I

use to say to him Hey Son of God, Hey Manu Putra, he would respond with “ you

don’t know how you make me feel when you say that” Son of Man, I will miss you.

But as you know from our talk together about the true self the eternal soul,

which will never dies.

One of the most fundamental question which has been ask in relationship to the

Special Virus Program. Was presented by Boyd Graves. The United States must be

compelled to answer. “By what natural mechanism does the Icelandic Sheep

disease, Visna, appear in the genetic sequence of HIV”?

cures for AIDS

From: nonyobiznazz@...

Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:53:20 -0800

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

Thanks for welcoming me to the group. Yes, hiv is very real. For someone to say

that hiv is a myth, just baffles me. When you go through sickness yourself and

see others suffer as well (with or without taking meds), I'm sorry you know that

there's no myth around a sexually transmitted virus. People have unprotected

sex, they exchange infected body fluids, and they become ill shortly afterwards!

That is no freakin' myth!

How to treat it? Ok, now that's another issue that can be debated. I'm not

feeling that the hiv anti-virals are safe over a long period of time. My biggest

concern is what it would do to my liver. I just spoke with a guy online the

other day, who is hiv+, and he looked very healthy. I asked him was he on hiv

meds and he said that he was taking one pill a day. I asked him about the side

effects and he said they only lasted about a week and his body adjusted. He said

he's doing fine now and he is now undetectable. He says the meds have definitely

helped him.

While we are all skeptical of the hiv=aids theory, we still need to look at both

sides and give credit to the fact that yes some people out there are doing much

better since taking the meds, some are not. The virus does not behave the same

in everyone. Both sides need to be weighed and we all need to have an open-mind.

Of course, no one wants to believe in hiv and no one wants to take those pills.

I have tried the Beck Protocol, the Silver Pulsar, and taken great amounts of

silver. I went to get tested and I am still positive. Some of the great AIDS

dissidents who were hiv+ died an early death believing that hiv was not the

cause of AIDS (ex: Maggoire and Mr. Graves). I'm sorry, but you can't

ignore these things. There are others that I've read about online that were

positive and died early believing that hiv was a myth. Let's say hiv is a myth.

Ok, that's fine BUT something is making people sick after a risky sex encounter

and they usually end up dying years later. All those deaths do not strictly

relate to frequent drug use, poppers, partying, etc. Explain that please?

I am very open to hearing ALL views because it's my life and in the end I have

to decide for myself. If you are positive and reading this, you have to decide

for yourself as well. If that Ed guy gets upset with what I've said, I could

care less. Everyone has a right to be heard and voice how they feel. By hearing

multiple views, we can all come to a conclusion for what's best for our health

and our lives. God bless this group and may we all find the solutions and inner

peace that we seek for our health and our lives.

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 9:05:24 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

I agree with you 100%. I had the same symptoms. Although many of us can't seem

to level on what HIV/AIDS is I refuse to believe that it doesn't exist. I go

visit AIDS patients all the time and make clothing donations to them. To me it's

very real. They're not sick and dying because they want to. But hey, to each

their own. I'm glad to see you on this group.

From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower) explains

things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person who is also HIV+, I can

attest to the fact that this HIV thing or whatever you wanna call it, is REAL.

Since being diagnosed a few years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic

changes in my health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I

have spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or that

the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say that the drugs have

aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer drugs are alot better than they

used to be. There's all kinds of stories out there. One has to make up his/her

own mind for him/herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely

making us sick and it is definitely related to sex.. I came down with the high

fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands still swollen

years later). A few months

later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness, whether you

believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more posts and voicing my

opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From: Flo <champanelady@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Hello

> > > > cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> > > > Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:52 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have been following alot of the topic's posted here and i am very

interested in getting involved..I am moving into my 7th year of being

positive..My numbers are good. I am not any meds and I don't want to be

either...I supplement with several different herbs and vitmans.and try my best

to live and heathly life style.No drugs, no alcohol. My Mom says I take to many

supplements. I don't agree.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Thanks .I really needed to hear what you have to say......I know that it

exsists cause i am very much living with it...I moving into my 8th year of bring

HIV+.... I am not on any meds.......But I sure know it is there...I take alot of

supplements with high hopes of gaining the odds.I read what everyone has to say

here.Some of it I agree with some I don't...But I do agree with you that it

affects each and everyone one of us differently and that we have tp sort thru

all the information that is provided to us from others who have and are still

experiencing the affects of HIV and Aids......

Florence

>

> From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

> Subject: Re: Hello

> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

>

>

>

> Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower)

> explains things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person

> who is also HIV+, I can attest to the fact that this HIV thing or

> whatever you wanna call it, is REAL. Since being diagnosed a few

> years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic changes in my

> health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I have

> spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or

> that the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say

> that the drugs have aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer

> drugs are alot better than they used to be. There's all kinds of

> stories out there. One has to make up his/her own mind for him/

> herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely making us

> sick and it is definitely related to sex.. I came down with the high

> fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands

> still swollen years later). A few months

> later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness,

> whether you believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more

> posts and voicing my opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

>

>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> From: NS <calmlotusflower@ >

>>>> Subject: Re: Hello

>>>> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

>>>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:59 AM

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Â

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Don , I was wondering what the definition of " cured " is. What

>>>> is it that you are looking for; is it blood markers, how you

>>>> feel...? Just wondering as you said it was too early to tell if

>>>> H2O2 is a cure. You know the antibody that they test for will

>>>> ideally never go away, right? I didn't know they even had a test

>>>> that showed

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Thanks .I really needed to hear what you have to say......I know that it

exsists cause i am very much living with it...I moving into my 8th year of bring

HIV+.... I am not on any meds.......But I sure know it is there...I take alot of

supplements with high hopes of gaining the odds.I read what everyone has to say

here.Some of it I agree with some I don't...But I do agree with you that it

affects each and everyone one of us differently and that we have tp sort thru

all the information that is provided to us from others who have and are still

experiencing the affects of HIV and Aids......

Florence

>

> From: nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

> Subject: Re: Hello

> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:36 PM

>

>

>

> Hello, I am new to the group. I love how this guy (calmlotusflower)

> explains things. It just seems to make so much sense. As a person

> who is also HIV+, I can attest to the fact that this HIV thing or

> whatever you wanna call it, is REAL. Since being diagnosed a few

> years ago, I have definitely noticed some drastic changes in my

> health and I have decided not to take HIV meds at this time. I have

> spoken to people that say that the drugs either saved their life or

> that the drugs don't effect them at all. I have heard others say

> that the drugs have aweful side effects. I also hear that the newer

> drugs are alot better than they used to be. There's all kinds of

> stories out there. One has to make up his/her own mind for him/

> herself. Yes, I am a gay male and something is definitely making us

> sick and it is definitely related to sex.. I came down with the high

> fever, chills, and nightsweats along with swollen glands (glands

> still swollen years later). A few months

> later, I tested positive. Something is definitely causing illness,

> whether you believe in HIV or not. I look forward to reading more

> posts and voicing my opinion on this forum as well. Thank you.

>

>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> From: NS <calmlotusflower@ >

>>>> Subject: Re: Hello

>>>> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

>>>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:59 AM

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Â

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Don , I was wondering what the definition of " cured " is. What

>>>> is it that you are looking for; is it blood markers, how you

>>>> feel...? Just wondering as you said it was too early to tell if

>>>> H2O2 is a cure. You know the antibody that they test for will

>>>> ideally never go away, right? I didn't know they even had a test

>>>> that showed

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Yes, some of us do get very sick and have AIDS, but consider other causes of our

problems such as HHV6A, which only 5% of the population has and it is extremely

deadly. For those interested check out the HHV6 Foundation on line and learn

about where to be tested. There is 100% correlation to it and AIDS.

There is also certain mycoplasmas and other viruses which have related to AIDS.

To give HIV, a harmless passenger retrovirus the credit, without doing the

proper research is doing an injustice to one's self.

I am in the process of being tested for the HHV6A strain and if proves positive,

then I will take the right antiviral for it and not the standard HIV meds.

If one takes the meds and they work and one if ok with accepting the long-term

risks, then contiune on. However, many of us want to know the real truth and

must pursue our own path in life.

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Yes, some of us do get very sick and have AIDS, but consider other causes of our

problems such as HHV6A, which only 5% of the population has and it is extremely

deadly. For those interested check out the HHV6 Foundation on line and learn

about where to be tested. There is 100% correlation to it and AIDS.

There is also certain mycoplasmas and other viruses which have related to AIDS.

To give HIV, a harmless passenger retrovirus the credit, without doing the

proper research is doing an injustice to one's self.

I am in the process of being tested for the HHV6A strain and if proves positive,

then I will take the right antiviral for it and not the standard HIV meds.

If one takes the meds and they work and one if ok with accepting the long-term

risks, then contiune on. However, many of us want to know the real truth and

must pursue our own path in life.

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hello guys watch out for agents on here it doesn't mean anything .but that there

on here spreading false lies some guy on here said that he tried out the beck

protocols and he still tested positive .i have a very good question who ever you

may be you say you went to a doctor well my friend it's not in there best

interest to tell you that your cured because that would open up the flood gates

one person cured takes away lots and lots and lots of money he can't eat or send

his children to school or take his wife on those lovely vacation with out you

spending over and beyond 20'000 a year on there drugs  you say that the doctor

told you your still positive why on god green earth wouldn't he ? your paying

his bills your paying for that new car he drives so you guys can keep on

thinking inside the box 85% of the people want to die that's just face it do

your own research start questioning these people who get on here with this

shit*****

________________________________

From: NS <calmlotusflower@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 2:30:01 PM

Subject: Re: Hello

 

My response to this is in my new thread, here:

http://health. groups.. com/group/ cures for AIDS/ message/6224

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> From: NS <calmlotusflower@ >

> >>>> Subject: Re: Hello

> >>>> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> >>>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:59 AM

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Â

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Don , I was wondering what the definition of " cured " is. What

> >>>> is it that you are looking for; is it blood markers, how you

> >>>> feel...? Just wondering as you said it was too early to tell if

> >>>> H2O2 is a cure. You know the antibody that they test for will

> >>>> ideally never go away, right? I didn't know they even had a test

> >>>> that showed

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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hello guys watch out for agents on here it doesn't mean anything .but that there

on here spreading false lies some guy on here said that he tried out the beck

protocols and he still tested positive .i have a very good question who ever you

may be you say you went to a doctor well my friend it's not in there best

interest to tell you that your cured because that would open up the flood gates

one person cured takes away lots and lots and lots of money he can't eat or send

his children to school or take his wife on those lovely vacation with out you

spending over and beyond 20'000 a year on there drugs  you say that the doctor

told you your still positive why on god green earth wouldn't he ? your paying

his bills your paying for that new car he drives so you guys can keep on

thinking inside the box 85% of the people want to die that's just face it do

your own research start questioning these people who get on here with this

shit*****

________________________________

From: NS <calmlotusflower@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 2:30:01 PM

Subject: Re: Hello

 

My response to this is in my new thread, here:

http://health. groups.. com/group/ cures for AIDS/ message/6224

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> From: NS <calmlotusflower@ >

> >>>> Subject: Re: Hello

> >>>> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> >>>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:59 AM

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Â

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Don , I was wondering what the definition of " cured " is. What

> >>>> is it that you are looking for; is it blood markers, how you

> >>>> feel...? Just wondering as you said it was too early to tell if

> >>>> H2O2 is a cure. You know the antibody that they test for will

> >>>> ideally never go away, right? I didn't know they even had a test

> >>>> that showed

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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lets talk about getting cured not quick fixes who on here has tried the bob beck

protocol ? i mean the whole protocol not just the silvar pulsar my friend

there's  more to that then just using some silver the whole protocol must be

used .not one device but all of them .everyone on here needs to stop fooling

your self it's all a mind thing some of you on here say you have aids some of

you say you have hiv .that's look at it like this you don't really know what you

have only what the crooks in the media has told you .i'm here trying to awaken

asleeping giant nothing else .ask your self why did the FDA surppress this

information from you guys and your now running around thinking that you need

there drugs to servive?any one on here know why your being miss lead into

believeing that there isn't away out ?there are just some people in the world

who doesn't give a good got damn about you but i do care a whole great deal .

i'm trying to put light on the situation at hand here. take back your powers

!!!! peace

________________________________

From: william smith <williamsmith7850@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 8:50:42 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

 

hello guys watch out for agents on here it doesn't mean anything .but that there

on here spreading false lies some guy on here said that he tried out the beck

protocols and he still tested positive .i have a very good question who ever you

may be you say you went to a doctor well my friend it's not in there best

interest to tell you that your cured because that would open up the flood gates

one person cured takes away lots and lots and lots of money he can't eat or send

his children to school or take his wife on those lovely vacation with out you

spending over and beyond 20'000 a year on there drugs  you say that the doctor

told you your still positive why on god green earth wouldn't he ? your paying

his bills your paying for that new car he drives so you guys can keep on

thinking inside the box 85% of the people want to die that's just face it do

your own research start questioning these people who get on here with this

shit*****

____________ _________ _________ __

From: NS <calmlotusflower>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 2:30:01 PM

Subject: Re: Hello

 

My response to this is in my new thread, here:

http://health. groups.. com/group/ cures for AIDS/ message/6224

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> From: NS <calmlotusflower@ >

> >>>> Subject: Re: Hello

> >>>> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> >>>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:59 AM

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Â

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Don , I was wondering what the definition of " cured " is. What

> >>>> is it that you are looking for; is it blood markers, how you

> >>>> feel...? Just wondering as you said it was too early to tell if

> >>>> H2O2 is a cure. You know the antibody that they test for will

> >>>> ideally never go away, right? I didn't know they even had a test

> >>>> that showed

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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lets talk about getting cured not quick fixes who on here has tried the bob beck

protocol ? i mean the whole protocol not just the silvar pulsar my friend

there's  more to that then just using some silver the whole protocol must be

used .not one device but all of them .everyone on here needs to stop fooling

your self it's all a mind thing some of you on here say you have aids some of

you say you have hiv .that's look at it like this you don't really know what you

have only what the crooks in the media has told you .i'm here trying to awaken

asleeping giant nothing else .ask your self why did the FDA surppress this

information from you guys and your now running around thinking that you need

there drugs to servive?any one on here know why your being miss lead into

believeing that there isn't away out ?there are just some people in the world

who doesn't give a good got damn about you but i do care a whole great deal .

i'm trying to put light on the situation at hand here. take back your powers

!!!! peace

________________________________

From: william smith <williamsmith7850@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 8:50:42 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

 

hello guys watch out for agents on here it doesn't mean anything .but that there

on here spreading false lies some guy on here said that he tried out the beck

protocols and he still tested positive .i have a very good question who ever you

may be you say you went to a doctor well my friend it's not in there best

interest to tell you that your cured because that would open up the flood gates

one person cured takes away lots and lots and lots of money he can't eat or send

his children to school or take his wife on those lovely vacation with out you

spending over and beyond 20'000 a year on there drugs  you say that the doctor

told you your still positive why on god green earth wouldn't he ? your paying

his bills your paying for that new car he drives so you guys can keep on

thinking inside the box 85% of the people want to die that's just face it do

your own research start questioning these people who get on here with this

shit*****

____________ _________ _________ __

From: NS <calmlotusflower>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 2:30:01 PM

Subject: Re: Hello

 

My response to this is in my new thread, here:

http://health. groups.. com/group/ cures for AIDS/ message/6224

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> From: NS <calmlotusflower@ >

> >>>> Subject: Re: Hello

> >>>> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> >>>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:59 AM

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Â

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Don , I was wondering what the definition of " cured " is. What

> >>>> is it that you are looking for; is it blood markers, how you

> >>>> feel...? Just wondering as you said it was too early to tell if

> >>>> H2O2 is a cure. You know the antibody that they test for will

> >>>> ideally never go away, right? I didn't know they even had a test

> >>>> that showed

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Well I for one haven't been fooling around.  I've been on the hydrogen peroxide

therapy for 4 months now.  It seems to be working.  I have been following the

protocol as best as I can.  I feel a whole lot better as when I was on meds. 

I also take a number herbs and supplements to help this therapy out.  In the

last couple of days I have never felt more energetic and toxic free.

From: william smith <williamsmith7850@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS

Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 9:35 AM

 

lets talk about getting cured not quick fixes who on here has tried the bob beck

protocol ? i mean the whole protocol not just the silvar pulsar my friend

there's  more to that then just using some silver the whole protocol must be

used .not one device but all of them .everyone on here needs to stop fooling

your self it's all a mind thing some of you on here say you have aids some of

you say you have hiv .that's look at it like this you don't really know what you

have only what the crooks in the media has told you .i'm here trying to awaken

asleeping giant nothing else .ask your self why did the FDA surppress this

information from you guys and your now running around thinking that you need

there drugs to servive?any one on here know why your being miss lead into

believeing that there isn't away out ?there are just some people in the world

who doesn't give a good got damn about you but i do care a whole great deal .

i'm trying to put light on the situation at hand here. take back your powers

!!!! peace

____________ _________ _________ __

From: william smith <williamsmith7850@ att.net>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 8:50:42 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

 

hello guys watch out for agents on here it doesn't mean anything .but that there

on here spreading false lies some guy on here said that he tried out the beck

protocols and he still tested positive .i have a very good question who ever you

may be you say you went to a doctor well my friend it's not in there best

interest to tell you that your cured because that would open up the flood gates

one person cured takes away lots and lots and lots of money he can't eat or send

his children to school or take his wife on those lovely vacation with out you

spending over and beyond 20'000 a year on there drugs  you say that the doctor

told you your still positive why on god green earth wouldn't he ? your paying

his bills your paying for that new car he drives so you guys can keep on

thinking inside the box 85% of the people want to die that's just face it do

your own research start questioning these people who get on here with this

shit*****

____________ _________ _________ __

From: NS <calmlotusflower>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 2:30:01 PM

Subject: Re: Hello

 

My response to this is in my new thread, here:

http://health. groups.. com/group/ cures for AIDS/ message/6224

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> From: NS <calmlotusflower@ >

> >>>> Subject: Re: Hello

> >>>> cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

> >>>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:59 AM

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Â

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Don , I was wondering what the definition of " cured " is. What

> >>>> is it that you are looking for; is it blood markers, how you

> >>>> feel...? Just wondering as you said it was too early to tell if

> >>>> H2O2 is a cure. You know the antibody that they test for will

> >>>> ideally never go away, right? I didn't know they even had a test

> >>>> that showed

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Well I for one haven't been fooling around.  I've been on the hydrogen peroxide

therapy for 4 months now.  It seems to be working.  I have been following the

protocol as best as I can.  I feel a whole lot better as when I was on meds. 

I also take a number herbs and supplements to help this therapy out.  In the

last couple of days I have never felt more energetic and toxic free.

From: william smith <williamsmith7850@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS

Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 9:35 AM

 

lets talk about getting cured not quick fixes who on here has tried the bob beck

protocol ? i mean the whole protocol not just the silvar pulsar my friend

there's  more to that then just using some silver the whole protocol must be

used .not one device but all of them .everyone on here needs to stop fooling

your self it's all a mind thing some of you on here say you have aids some of

you say you have hiv .that's look at it like this you don't really know what you

have only what the crooks in the media has told you .i'm here trying to awaken

asleeping giant nothing else .ask your self why did the FDA surppress this

information from you guys and your now running around thinking that you need

there drugs to servive?any one on here know why your being miss lead into

believeing that there isn't away out ?there are just some people in the world

who doesn't give a good got damn about you but i do care a whole great deal .

i'm trying to put light on the situation at hand here. take back your powers

!!!! peace

____________ _________ _________ __

From: william smith <williamsmith7850@ att.net>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 8:50:42 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

 

hello guys watch out for agents on here it doesn't mean anything .but that there

on here spreading false lies some guy on here said that he tried out the beck

protocols and he still tested positive .i have a very good question who ever you

may be you say you went to a doctor well my friend it's not in there best

interest to tell you that your cured because that would open up the flood gates

one person cured takes away lots and lots and lots of money he can't eat or send

his children to school or take his wife on those lovely vacation with out you

spending over and beyond 20'000 a year on there drugs  you say that the doctor

told you your still positive why on god green earth wouldn't he ? your paying

his bills your paying for that new car he drives so you guys can keep on

thinking inside the box 85% of the people want to die that's just face it do

your own research start questioning these people who get on here with this

shit*****

____________ _________ _________ __

From: NS <calmlotusflower>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 2:30:01 PM

Subject: Re: Hello

 

My response to this is in my new thread, here:

http://health. groups.. com/group/ cures for AIDS/ message/6224

> >>>>

> >>>>

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ok don glad to see your feeling and doing well keep on doing what the doctors

hate to see you doing . i just love to see people taking back there power

don.how many more years must we play this new world order game before we wake up

and see that these things were put here to take us out for a more better way of

putting it with out saying kill.that's just face it they mean to take  us all

out that is it  cut clean and dry know bullshiting around .thanks for sharing

that information with those of us who know the truth and speak before research

it our selves.

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From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 9:48:46 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

 

Well I for one haven't been fooling around.  I've been on the hydrogen peroxide

therapy for 4 months now.  It seems to be working.  I have been following the

protocol as best as I can.  I feel a whole lot better as when I was on meds.. 

I also take a number herbs and supplements to help this therapy out..  In the

last couple of days I have never felt more energetic and toxic free.

From: william smith <williamsmith7850@ att.net>

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 9:35 AM

 

lets talk about getting cured not quick fixes who on here has tried the bob beck

protocol ? i mean the whole protocol not just the silvar pulsar my friend

there's  more to that then just using some silver the whole protocol must be

used .not one device but all of them .everyone on here needs to stop fooling

your self it's all a mind thing some of you on here say you have aids some of

you say you have hiv .that's look at it like this you don't really know what you

have only what the crooks in the media has told you .i'm here trying to awaken

asleeping giant nothing else .ask your self why did the FDA surppress this

information from you guys and your now running around thinking that you need

there drugs to servive?any one on here know why your being miss lead into

believeing that there isn't away out ?there are just some people in the world

who doesn't give a good got damn about you but i do care a whole great deal .

i'm trying to put light on the situation at hand here. take back your powers

!!!! peace

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From: william smith <williamsmith7850@ att.net>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 8:50:42 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello

 

hello guys watch out for agents on here it doesn't mean anything .but that there

on here spreading false lies some guy on here said that he tried out the beck

protocols and he still tested positive .i have a very good question who ever you

may be you say you went to a doctor well my friend it's not in there best

interest to tell you that your cured because that would open up the flood gates

one person cured takes away lots and lots and lots of money he can't eat or send

his children to school or take his wife on those lovely vacation with out you

spending over and beyond 20'000 a year on there drugs  you say that the doctor

told you your still positive why on god green earth wouldn't he ? your paying

his bills your paying for that new car he drives so you guys can keep on

thinking inside the box 85% of the people want to die that's just face it do

your own research start questioning these people who get on here with this

shit*****

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From: NS <calmlotusflower>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 2:30:01 PM

Subject: Re: Hello

 

My response to this is in my new thread, here:

http://health. groups.. com/group/ cures for AIDS/ message/6224

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