issues

March 10, 2007

Hi Stehpanie

-its the dr. kuri board. i'm still there everyday. i get the

digest and respond whenever i feel i can make a difference, but my

remarks are often not what the poster desired and i get the flack.

currently and for the last two weeks, i had addressed someone who

was complaining about the horrors of band life and used another

example of a friend who was banded 7 years ago who had a slip. her

posting was so negative and unbalanced i felt compelled to add my two

cents, which were primarily that the picture she was paingting was

lopsided and since there were a lot of newbies and soon to be's on

the board, it would be better to provide a more balanced view, even

when asking for help for a certain problem and acknowledging that in

any endeavor such as banding, there going to be bumps in the road.

her venomous response was entitled " EXCUSE ME , GEORGE??????? " (In

much bolder type).

since then there have been about 50 comments on the board, not

necessarily pertaining to this issue, but sent as a response to that

title. " EXCUSE ME GEORGE " Its hilarious, when i think about it.

one person even said that the moderators should bar me from the site.

(i'm not going to mention marylin dempsey's name, though)

truth be told, since SandyR isn't there too often anymore, i'm the

only one who doesn't coddle the whiners.

so that's the story. it simply amazes me that some people think

support means getting a pat on the back, when true support helps make

a difference. you know, if someone loses someone close, that

deserves a pat on the back, in sympathy and support, but if they use

that loss to justify eating out of control, a pat on the back is

damaging not helpful. and that's how i see the differentiation.

and all this, in my never humble opinion. LOL (I stole that line

from dr. laura)

george

-- In , " bear2travel "

<bear2travel@...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> No argument or flaming from me. But I am curious about " the other

> board " I keep hearing about. What is it?--if only to keep me from

> accidentally joining it ;-) you can tell me privately if you'd

prefer.

>

> Thanks,

>

> >

> > i agree that counseling is a good thing, particularly when bad

> > behavior is chronic.

> >

> > however, we mustn't use counseling to navel gaze, or as a safety

net

> > to delay starting the work on our health.

> >

>

March 10, 2007

And here I thought someone was referring to " the other board " as in

SmartBandsters, as opposed to .

Sandy and I and many others who are here are/were members there. They have

about four times as many members and there are LOTS of msgs every day. There

are also some anal compulsive whiners there who are generally in charge. Sandy

and I are both banned from there due to not letting whiners get away with all

the crap that they dump. Show up, suit up, shut up, follow directions. And

quit your bitching. Well, they didn't like that.

The only other " problem " there is that there are many not yet banded folks who

have lots of questions. Well, that is important for them to be able to do that,

but we decided to have a place where it was ONLY for those who already had a

band (well, for at least a couple hours). So here we are.

dan

" Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. "

-- Will

www.mylapband.tk or www.riverofdata.com

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/27/03

355/323/210/190

Re: Issues

>Hi Stehpanie

>-its the dr. kuri board. i'm still there everyday. i get the

>digest and respond whenever i feel i can make a difference, but my

>remarks are often not what the poster desired and i get the flack.

>currently and for the last two weeks, i had addressed someone who

>was complaining about the horrors of band life and used another

>example of a friend who was banded 7 years ago who had a slip. her

>posting was so negative and unbalanced i felt compelled to add my two

>cents, which were primarily that the picture she was paingting was

>lopsided and since there were a lot of newbies and soon to be's on

>the board, it would be better to provide a more balanced view, even

>when asking for help for a certain problem and acknowledging that in

>any endeavor such as banding, there going to be bumps in the road.

>her venomous response was entitled " EXCUSE ME , GEORGE??????? " (In

>much bolder type).

>since then there have been about 50 comments on the board, not

>necessarily pertaining to this issue, but sent as a response to that

>title. " EXCUSE ME GEORGE " Its hilarious, when i think about it.

>one person even said that the moderators should bar me from the site.

>(i'm not going to mention marylin dempsey's name, though)

>truth be told, since SandyR isn't there too often anymore, i'm the

>only one who doesn't coddle the whiners.

>so that's the story. it simply amazes me that some people think

>support means getting a pat on the back, when true support helps make

>a difference. you know, if someone loses someone close, that

>deserves a pat on the back, in sympathy and support, but if they use

>that loss to justify eating out of control, a pat on the back is

>damaging not helpful. and that's how i see the differentiation.

>and all this, in my never humble opinion. LOL (I stole that line

>from dr. laura)

>george

>-- In , " bear2travel "

><bear2travel@...> wrote:

>>

>> ,

>>

>> No argument or flaming from me. But I am curious about " the other

>> board " I keep hearing about. What is it?--if only to keep me from

>> accidentally joining it ;-) you can tell me privately if you'd

>prefer.

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> >

>> > i agree that counseling is a good thing, particularly when bad

>> > behavior is chronic.

>> >

>> > however, we mustn't use counseling to navel gaze, or as a safety

>net

>> > to delay starting the work on our health.

>> >

>>

>

March 11, 2007

Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had joined and it was

MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was posted

individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby had a fit

because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I switched the

email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each and every

message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what you mean

about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in Northern

California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I plan a

vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am getting the

band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a bunch of

stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading through the

archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask anything

ridiculous on this board.

Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have my lunch

money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

March 11, 2007

Hi, Misty ! You're very welcome! all the other forums also

have an option to receive daily digests or no rmails at all if you

prefer. Most other boards do too. It's in the " edit my membership "

area.

Any and all questions are welcome here, if people are banded. we just

felt that with a smaller and more personal board, that we didn't want

to spend time with all the pre-band questions like " what is a

fill? " " Should I get a band or a bypass? "

W're here for people who are already committed to banding. We also

know that we have to forget all the excuses. Between Dan and me, I'm

sure we have personally used every one of them to excuse our weight

and other problems.

No more excuses! We have to take responsibility for our own actions

and their outcomes. We have all gotten into very serious trouble with

our wt becuase of all the excuses.

So now it's time to face the facts and make the needed changes.

We'll help all we can, even though what we feel we need to say

sometimes is not always easy to hear.

Sandy R

-

-- In , " Mike and Misty Doroshow "

<doroshow@...> wrote:

>

> Dan, you are so right about the " other " board! I had joined and it

was

> MANDATORY that I had to receive each and every message that was

posted

> individually instead of a digest. Well the first day and hubby had

a fit

> because he came home from work and there were 96 messages! I

switched the

> email address to my , and it was such a hassle to read each

and every

> message individually that I dropped after 5 days! I can see what

you mean

> about " anal " , also, most of that board seems to be situated in

Northern

> California, Oregon, and Washington. Not much use to me unless I

plan a

> vacation and plan on staying for a few months! So.since I am

getting the

> band on Thursday, can I stay until then? I promise not to ask a

bunch of

> stupid questions! I have done enough homework just reading through

the

> archives for my questions that I don't feel the need to ask anything

> ridiculous on this board.

>

> Please don't kick me out of the clubhouse yet! I promise to have my

lunch

> money to give you on Thursday!! :-) Misty

>

March 11, 2007

It isn't mandatory to receive each and every e mail, you can always read the

posts on the website. I believe that both boards have their purpose. I stay on

the Kuri site just to help the new people that have questions, to be there for

them like someone was there for me when I was new. When you are new it is

helpful to read experiences from people that are going through the same things.

Although I do miss the posts from Sandy, she is so knowledgeable and helpful, I

still enjoy helping the newbies out on that site. I do get the individual

emails and it usually is about ten to fifteen a day, sometimes just a few and

sometimes more.

Mike and Misty Doroshow <doroshow@...> wrote: