Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 WOW!On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Bruce P <bruce@...> wrote: Because vitamin C is part of the iodine therapy, and protective in so many ways in general, the below is striking in its implications. Many have heard of intravenous C for serious illness, Perhaps orally will do where that is impossible. Especially notable is the last paragraph below. " In an overlooked study first published in 2008, for the first time, using a special liposomal form of oral-dose vitamin C, researchers in Britain demonstrated it is possible to achieve cancer-killing blood concentrations of this vitamin without undesirable side effects. Heretofore, National Institutes of Health Researchers claimed the maximal concentration of vitamin C that can be achieved following oral intake is not sufficient to produce a cancer-killing effect. Now British researchers demonstrate they were able to achieve blood concentrations of vitamin C that were twice what was incorrectly reported to be maximal, and in the range of what is known to be selectively toxic to tumor cells, yet not harmful to healthy cells. Studies with various forms of cancer show a 30%-to-50% cancer cell-killing effect at the same blood concentration of vitamin C achieved in this study. For comparison, anti-cancer drugs are approved by the FDA if they achieve 50% tumor shrinkage... Why this landmark study has been completely overlooked by the cancer community goes unexplained. The study was published in a journal catalogued by the National Library of Medicine (NLM), but articles from that journal cannot be accessed at the NLM website. When this report was submitted for publication, the publisher of the journal suddenly changed editors and the new editor attempted to scratch the report from its publication schedule altogether. Finally the report did get published, but suddenly the journal itself was discontinued and its articles no longer indexed by NLM. It appears an intentional effort was made to bury this study. An online abstract is provided at the Journal of Nutritional and Environmental Medicine website. " http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi144.html Bruce -- Hibiscus Babywww.hibiscusbaby.comwww.venusvanguard.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 There's a homemade method of making Liposamal Vit C floating around. You have to use an ultrasonic jewerly cleaner to shear the oil so it will encapsulate the vit C, but it's a darned sight cheaper than the prices I've seen for this stuff. And Vit C is cheap and so is the Lecithin they use to encapsulate it. So I'm wondering where they get off pricing it so high? Goes to show that just because they're making something healthy, they're also VERY concerned with making lots of money. They've priced it right out of the reach of a whole lot of people who could use it the most. Bethann " The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge " ~ Hawking Joline Sikora wrote: > > > WOW! > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Bruce P <brucebkdesign (DOT) ca > <mailto:bruce@...>> wrote: > > > > > > Because vitamin C is part of the iodine therapy, and protective in > so many > ways in general, the below is > striking in its implications. Many have heard of intravenous C for > serious > illness, Perhaps orally will do > where that is impossible. > Especially notable is the last paragraph below. > > " In an overlooked study first published in 2008, for the first time, > using a > special liposomal form of oral-dose vitamin C, researchers in Britain > demonstrated it is possible to achieve cancer-killing blood > concentrations > of this vitamin without undesirable side effects. > > Heretofore, National Institutes of Health Researchers claimed the > maximal > concentration of vitamin C that can be achieved following oral > intake is not > sufficient to produce a cancer-killing effect. Now British researchers > demonstrate they were able to achieve blood concentrations of > vitamin C that > were twice what was incorrectly reported to be maximal, and in the > range of > what is known to be selectively toxic to tumor cells, yet not > harmful to > healthy cells. > > Studies with various forms of cancer show a 30%-to-50% cancer > cell-killing > effect at the same blood concentration of vitamin C achieved in this > study. > For comparison, anti-cancer drugs are approved by the FDA if they > achieve > 50% tumor shrinkage... > > Why this landmark study has been completely overlooked by the cancer > community goes unexplained. The study was published in a journal > catalogued > by the National Library of Medicine (NLM), but articles from that > journal > cannot be accessed at the NLM website. When this report was > submitted for > publication, the publisher of the journal suddenly changed editors > and the > new editor attempted to scratch the report from its publication > schedule > altogether. Finally the report did get published, but suddenly the > journal > itself was discontinued and its articles no longer indexed by NLM. It > appears an intentional effort was made to bury this study. An online > abstract is provided at the Journal of Nutritional and Environmental > Medicine website. " > > http://www.lewrockw ell.com/sardi/ sardi144. html > <http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi144.html> > > Bruce > > > > > -- > Hibiscus Baby > www.hibiscusbaby. com <http://www.hibiscusbaby.com> > www.venusvanguard. com <http://www.venusvanguard.com> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 This or a similar product is available from LivOn Labs. It's called Lyposheric Vitamin C. It is very expensive. BarbF In a message dated 1/29/2010 1:40:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jolinesikora@... writes: In an overlooked study first published in 2008, for the first time, using a special liposomal form of oral-dose vitamin C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Yes, is expensive. It isn't something one would take for the iodine protocol though. Much like intravenous C it would be used for emerg when one cannot get intravenous C. But even regular C, one can take huge doses when sick as tolerance goes up a lot. Now, saying that means I was off topic ohoh. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Bbircie@... This or a similar product is available from LivOn Labs. It's called Lyposheric Vitamin C. It is very expensive. BarbF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I am not sure that this is the same type of vitamin C that you are talking about, but Swanson's sells something called Pureway C. Pureway C is described as Vitamin C in " lipid metabolites " . Swansons is selling 2 bottles of 1000 mg (90 capsules) for $8.49. This is a 2 for 1 sale they are running. http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU408/ItemDetail?n=0 Galen > > > Yes, is expensive. It isn't something one would take for the iodine protocol > though. Much like intravenous C it > would be used for emerg when one cannot get intravenous C. > But even regular C, one can take huge doses when sick as tolerance goes up a > lot. > Now, saying that means I was off topic ohoh. > > Bruce > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bbircie@... > > > This or a similar product is available from LivOn Labs. It's called > Lyposheric Vitamin C. It is very expensive. > BarbF > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I really don't think so. Barb found it: > This or a similar product is available from LivOn Labs. It's called > Lyposheric Vitamin C. It is very expensive. > BarbF It's about $1.30/ serving. " Recent clinical trials by world-renowned Vitamin C expert and pharmacologist, Steve Hickey, PhD, show that Lypo-SphericTM Vitamin C is able to produce serum levels of Vitamin C nearly double those thought theoretically possible with any oral form of Vitamin C.* " http://www.livonlabs.com/ Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: galen1461 I am not sure that this is the same type of vitamin C that you are talking about, but Swanson's sells something called Pureway C. Pureway C is described as Vitamin C in " lipid metabolites " . Swansons is selling 2 bottles of 1000 mg (90 capsules) for $8.49. This is a 2 for 1 sale they are running. http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU408/ItemDetail?n=0 Galen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 That's it! I cannot thank you enough. That place is beyond awesome. Read the about us; http://www.livonlabs.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/35131.1.778461252119793828/lypo-sphe\ ric/about-LivOn-labs.html Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Bbircie@... This or a similar product is available from LivOn Labs. It's called Lyposheric Vitamin C. It is very expensive. BarbF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Here is a source for a cheaper liposomal vitamin C: http://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/620.htm > > That's it! > > I cannot thank you enough. That place is beyond awesome. > Read the about us; > http://www.livonlabs.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/35131.1.778461252119793828/lypo-sphe\ ric/about-LivOn-labs.html > > Bruce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bbircie@... > > This or a similar product is available from LivOn Labs. It's called > Lyposheric Vitamin C. It is very expensive. > BarbF > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Hi Bruce, since Vit C is so important in taking iodine I feel this is not an OT issue so to add to this discussion are you aware you can make your own LET C for pennies compared to what you'd pay from anywhere else especially LivOn Labs.If course there are those who can afford the higher priced LET C unfortunately I'm not one of them.Did I mention that homemade LET C is comparable to LivOn Lab's product....it's very nearly the same thing in effectiveness.Best regards,SandyFrom: Bruce P <bruce@...>Subject: Re: Vit C High dosesiodine Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 12:03 AM That's it! I cannot thank you enough. That place is beyond awesome. Read the about us; http://www.livonlab s.com/cgi- bin/htmlos. cgi/35131. 1.77846125211979 3828/lypo- spheric/about- LivOn-labs. html Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Bbircieaol (DOT) com This or a similar product is available from LivOn Labs. It's called Lyposheric Vitamin C. It is very expensive. BarbF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I'm not promoting them in any way, just found this last night and investigating. " LivOn Labs adds a mixture of " essential phospholipids " - predominately phosphatidylcholine - to pharmaceutical-quality ascorbic acid. Then this mixture is forced through a patented nozzle jet at over 1700 p.s.i. (pounds per square inch) of pressure against a special forming plate. The high impact forces the phospholipids to form liposomes that are so small that they can only be viewed through an electron microscope. The liposomes used in Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C are about 300 to 400 nanometers in diameter (a nanometer is one-billionth of a meter) and are particularly suited to move quickly and efficiently to their target before releasing their contents... " Sounds not so easy, but its also a business so am not buying into it...yet. If this is possible and true, it may have some implication when one has problems with iodine transporter...but the iodine docs used ordinary C and found it working, within 3 months. Apparently few have this problem... I would look at it, if true, as between regular C and intravenous C, so not needed unless in a health crisis and intravenous is not possible. And maybe good when problems arise as in working faster/better. I don't see where LET C is the same. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Hi Bruce, since Vit C is so important in taking iodine I feel this is not an OT issue so to add to this discussion are you aware you can make your own LET C for pennies compared to what you'd pay from anywhere else especially LivOn Labs. If course there are those who can afford the higher priced LET C unfortunately I'm not one of them. Did I mention that homemade LET C is comparable to LivOn Lab's product....it's very nearly the same thing in effectiveness. Best regards, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Just for the record, after going through their site, they have joined my list of " highly suspicious " tho I was wrong once before, back in 1964... Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Hi Bruce, since Vit C is so important in taking iodine I feel this is not an OT issue so to add to this discussion are you aware you can make your own LET C for pennies compared to what you'd pay from anywhere else especially LivOn Labs. If course there are those who can afford the higher priced LET C unfortunately I'm not one of them. Did I mention that homemade LET C is comparable to LivOn Lab's product....it's very nearly the same thing in effectiveness. Best regards, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Actually, Bruce LET C is much more effective than IV C. Doctors are staring to use LET instead of the IV C for that very reason.Yes, LivOn labs would have us believe it is very difficult to make but I make my own every week and it is extremely easy and effective. There is no doubt that LivOn labs uses state of the art equipment [which costs lots of money] but for less than a hundred dollars you can buy all you need to make your own.For pertinent info go here [if you're interested]...http://alobar.livejournal.com/3346670.htmlSandy--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Bruce P <bruce@...> wrote:From: Bruce P <bruce@...>Subject: Re: Vit C High dosesTo: iodine Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 10:29 AM I'm not promoting them in any way, just found this last night and investigating. "LivOn Labs adds a mixture of "essential phospholipids" - predominately phosphatidylcholine - to pharmaceutical- quality ascorbic acid. Then this mixture is forced through a patented nozzle jet at over 1700 p.s.i. (pounds per square inch) of pressure against a special forming plate. The high impact forces the phospholipids to form liposomes that are so small that they can only be viewed through an electron microscope. The liposomes used in Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C are about 300 to 400 nanometers in diameter (a nanometer is one-billionth of a meter) and are particularly suited to move quickly and efficiently to their target before releasing their contents..." Sounds not so easy, but its also a business so am not buying into it...yet. If this is possible and true, it may have some implication when one has problems with iodine transporter. ..but the iodine docs used ordinary C and found it working, within 3 months. Apparently few have this problem... I would look at it, if true, as between regular C and intravenous C, so not needed unless in a health crisis and intravenous is not possible. And maybe good when problems arise as in working faster/better. I don't see where LET C is the same. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Hi Bruce, since Vit C is so important in taking iodine I feel this is not an OT issue so to add to this discussion are you aware you can make your own LET C for pennies compared to what you'd pay from anywhere else especially LivOn Labs. If course there are those who can afford the higher priced LET C unfortunately I'm not one of them. Did I mention that homemade LET C is comparable to LivOn Lab's product....it' s very nearly the same thing in effectiveness. Best regards, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Thank you Sandy, this looks good. To me, their procedure is 2 steps away from nature and our body's design. Vit C is proven safe and natural. Ditto intravenous C and a lifesaver. " nano technology " is hailed as the best thing since sliced bread. It is far from natural and may be found dangerous as far as I'm concerned. It bypasses all the body's safeguards and man is not as smart as they like to think they are.. Will look more into what you are saying, it makes more sense. thanks Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Actually, Bruce LET C is much more effective than IV C. Doctors are staring to use LET instead of the IV C for that very reason. Yes, LivOn labs would have us believe it is very difficult to make but I make my own every week and it is extremely easy and effective. There is no doubt that LivOn labs uses state of the art equipment [which costs lots of money] but for less than a hundred dollars you can buy all you need to make your own. For pertinent info go here [if you're interested]... http://alobar.livejournal.com/3346670.html Sandy - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Why not make your own liposomal vitamin C, a little less in strength than those sold by other professionally made ones, but good just the same. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bbircie@ > > > > > > This or a similar product is available from LivOn Labs. It's called > > Lyposheric Vitamin C. It is very expensive. > > BarbF > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 You're welcome, Bruce. I agree we need to thoroughly research everything to do with our bodies. I've had no ill effects and have been taking the LET C since last September...so far so good. Hoping against hope it will help in my iodine therapy. Whenever I take the slighest amount of iodine it feels like I'm going to die...heart palps so bad I can hardly breathe. I cannot imagine taking more than half a tab of iodoral. I do take the other supplements [and salt too] I'm supposed to but all I can figure is my adrenals are fried. :(I was also wrong once...in 1968...LOL.Regards,SandyFrom: Bruce P <bruce@...>Subject: Re: Vit C High dosesiodine Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:04 AM Thank you Sandy, this looks good. To me, their procedure is 2 steps away from nature and our body's design. Vit C is proven safe and natural. Ditto intravenous C and a lifesaver. "nano technology" is hailed as the best thing since sliced bread. It is far from natural and may be found dangerous as far as I'm concerned. It bypasses all the body's safeguards and man is not as smart as they like to think they are.. Will look more into what you are saying, it makes more sense. thanks Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Actually, Bruce LET C is much more effective than IV C. Doctors are staring to use LET instead of the IV C for that very reason. Yes, LivOn labs would have us believe it is very difficult to make but I make my own every week and it is extremely easy and effective. There is no doubt that LivOn labs uses state of the art equipment [which costs lots of money] but for less than a hundred dollars you can buy all you need to make your own. For pertinent info go here [if you're interested]. .. http://alobar. livejournal. com/3346670. html Sandy - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Bruce, I forgot one other thing about the LET C. There is no bowel tolerance problems since the LET C goes directly into the blood stream hence the cells.SandyFrom: Bruce P <bruce@...>Subject: Re: Vit C High dosesiodine Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:04 AM Thank you Sandy, this looks good. To me, their procedure is 2 steps away from nature and our body's design. Vit C is proven safe and natural. Ditto intravenous C and a lifesaver. "nano technology" is hailed as the best thing since sliced bread. It is far from natural and may be found dangerous as far as I'm concerned. It bypasses all the body's safeguards and man is not as smart as they like to think they are.. Will look more into what you are saying, it makes more sense. thanks Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Actually, Bruce LET C is much more effective than IV C. Doctors are staring to use LET instead of the IV C for that very reason. Yes, LivOn labs would have us believe it is very difficult to make but I make my own every week and it is extremely easy and effective. There is no doubt that LivOn labs uses state of the art equipment [which costs lots of money] but for less than a hundred dollars you can buy all you need to make your own. For pertinent info go here [if you're interested]. .. http://alobar. livejournal. com/3346670. html Sandy - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Sandy, Do you have a website where I can get this? Thanks, Sandy schrieb: > > Bruce, I forgot one other thing about the LET C. There is no bowel > tolerance problems since the LET C goes directly into the blood stream > hence the cells. > > Sandy > > > > > From: Bruce P <bruce@...> > Subject: Re: Vit C High doses > iodine > Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:04 AM > > Thank you Sandy, this looks good. > To me, their procedure is 2 steps away from nature and our body's > design. > Vit C is proven safe and natural. > Ditto intravenous C and a lifesaver. > > " nano technology " is hailed as the best thing since sliced bread. > It is far > from natural and may be found dangerous as far as I'm concerned. > It bypasses > all the body's safeguards and man is not as smart as they like to > think they > are.. > > Will look more into what you are saying, it makes more sense. > thanks > > Bruce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sandy > > Actually, Bruce LET C is much more effective than IV C. Doctors > are staring > to use LET instead of the IV C for that very reason. > > Yes, LivOn labs would have us believe it is very difficult to make > but I > make my own every week and it is extremely easy and effective. > There is no > doubt that LivOn labs uses state of the art equipment [which costs > lots of > money] but for less than a hundred dollars you can buy all you > need to make > your own. > > For pertinent info go here [if you're interested]. .. > > http://alobar. livejournal. com/3346670. html > <http://alobar.livejournal.com/3346670.html> > > Sandy > > - > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2656 - Release Date: 01/29/10 19:35:00 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 That was my feeling too Bruce. Mainly cause of the multiple sites, different names, same product. Seems to me if you have the liposomes or lecithin and C you could put them in a rock polisher (in a container of course unless it the bucket was sterile) and create the same reaction. Sonic waves is just vibration, isnt it? (And dont laugh if this is just too crazy, ok maybe a little laugh, i havent researched it in any depth). Achieving high concentrations of C is possible by other means tho. Bathing in a high amount of C and Lysine can bring levels to intravenous levels. I read this in a few research papers many years ago and do not remember the exact ratio. I think it was 1 part Lysine 4 parts C . Something like 1000mg Lysine and 4000mg C, but i may not be remembering correctly. I would think this research could be found by googling, tho its been at least 4 years since i read it. You would also need to add Baking soda (at least a cup)because the C is acidic. I have also added a pound of himalayan salt and a cup of epsom salt. Makes for one immune boosting bath! Not a good idea to do before bed as you feel pretty engergized. Another important thing to remember about C is that you will excrete everything not absorbed in about 3 hours (its actually 2.5 hours, i think but i tend to round things out) So if you take all your C in the morning you are basically creating expensive urine. If you take 500mg C every 3 (or 2.5) hours the blood serum of C remains high and constant. As far as off topics, I think keeping people on topic for iodine and the protocol is important not only because it doesnt clutter the list, its important because I think people tend to lose focus of whats really important. Easy to do if people keep digressing on LDN, zappers (tho that one is intriquing cause its relation to salt and electrical current), or the million other things that " can " help. All anyone really needs to do is focus on the iodine protocol and all other things will balance out. Sure, the extra supps are needed to repair the damage in some cases, but dont get so fixated on everything out there, keep the eye on whats important, iodine sufficiency. That in of itself will fix the root cause of all the problems. Just takes time. I come here to learn about iodine, its use, how it effects us. I like that i do not have to wade thru pages of posts about the political, the planet or other supplements not on the protocol. if its not about iodine or what is necessary to make the iodine work better and heal damage I dont wanna read it. And yes i could just ignore it, but sometimes finding whats important about iodine in the sea of pages of what others think important is difficult. Cheryl > > Just for the record, after going through their site, they have joined my > list of " highly suspicious " > tho I was wrong once before, back in 1964... > > Bruce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sandy > > > Hi Bruce, since Vit C is so important in taking iodine I feel this is not an > OT issue so to add to this discussion are you aware you can make your own > LET C for pennies compared to what you'd pay from anywhere else especially > LivOn Labs. > > If course there are those who can afford the higher priced LET C > unfortunately I'm not one of them. > > Did I mention that homemade LET C is comparable to LivOn Lab's > product....it's very nearly the same thing in effectiveness. > > Best regards, > > Sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 tho I was wrong once before, back in 1964... Bruce LOL > > Just for the record, after going through their site, they have joined my > list of " highly suspicious " > tho I was wrong once before, back in 1964... > > Bruce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sandy > > > Hi Bruce, since Vit C is so important in taking iodine I feel this is not an > OT issue so to add to this discussion are you aware you can make your own > LET C for pennies compared to what you'd pay from anywhere else especially > LivOn Labs. > > If course there are those who can afford the higher priced LET C > unfortunately I'm not one of them. > > Did I mention that homemade LET C is comparable to LivOn Lab's > product....it's very nearly the same thing in effectiveness. > > Best regards, > > Sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Thank you, Sandy, I too am interested in low-cost, effective alternative healing ideas. Where can I tune in to the discussion the link references, will you write me offlist? I have a sonic cleaner here, and think I will try making some of this. Utterly fascinating. -- >For pertinent info go here [if you're interested]... > >http://alobar.livejournal.com/3346670.html > >Sandy ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I have heart palps at night and it scares the heck out of me. Doing the Lugols in am- these palps have to dimish and soon, otherwise may quit,just not getting to sleep soon enough. Or will just go back to Armour or Erfa only. Any thoughts? Along with this, the Vit C story concerning Respiratory issues is intriguing as I have had colds/ bronchitis since childhood and now, with the IODINE deficiencies and VIT C possibly the respiratory could improve? From your words to God's ears. > > From: Bruce P <bruce@...> > Subject: Re: Vit C High doses > iodine > Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:04 AM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Sandy, this looks good. > > To me, their procedure is 2 steps away from nature and our body's design. > > Vit C is proven safe and natural. > > Ditto intravenous C and a lifesaver. > > > > " nano technology " is hailed as the best thing since sliced bread. It is far > > from natural and may be found dangerous as far as I'm concerned. It bypasses > > all the body's safeguards and man is not as smart as they like to think they > > are.. > > > > Will look more into what you are saying, it makes more sense. > > thanks > > > > Bruce > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sandy > > > > Actually, Bruce LET C is much more effective than IV C. Doctors are staring > > to use LET instead of the IV C for that very reason. > > > > Yes, LivOn labs would have us believe it is very difficult to make but I > > make my own every week and it is extremely easy and effective. There is no > > doubt that LivOn labs uses state of the art equipment [which costs lots of > > money] but for less than a hundred dollars you can buy all you need to make > > your own. > > > > For pertinent info go here [if you're interested]. .. > > > > http://alobar. livejournal. com/3346670. html > > > > Sandy > > > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Are you taking magnesium supplements? Mag regulates the heart, and is on the iodine protocol. -- >I have heart palps at night and it scares the heck out of me. >Doing the Lugols in am- these palps have to dimish and soon, >otherwise may quit,just not getting to sleep soon enough. >Or will just go back to Armour or Erfa only. Any thoughts? > >Along with this, the Vit C story concerning Respiratory >issues is intriguing as I have had colds/ bronchitis since >childhood and now, with the IODINE deficiencies and VIT C >possibly the respiratory could improve? From your words to >God's ears. ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Sandy, My understanding is soy has averse affects on the thyroid gland and the hormones of the thyroid...........has this been considered by using the lecithin? Bonnie Re: Vit C High doses >> iodine >> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:04 AM >> >> Thank you Sandy, this looks good. >> To me, their procedure is 2 steps away from nature and our body's >> design. >> Vit C is proven safe and natural. >> Ditto intravenous C and a lifesaver. >> >> " nano technology " is hailed as the best thing since sliced bread. >> It is far >> from natural and may be found dangerous as far as I'm concerned. >> It bypasses >> all the body's safeguards and man is not as smart as they like to >> think they >> are.. >> >> Will look more into what you are saying, it makes more sense. >> thanks >> >> Bruce >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sandy >> >> Actually, Bruce LET C is much more effective than IV C. Doctors >> are staring >> to use LET instead of the IV C for that very reason. >> >> Yes, LivOn labs would have us believe it is very difficult to make >> but I >> make my own every week and it is extremely easy and effective. >> There is no >> doubt that LivOn labs uses state of the art equipment [which costs >> lots of >> money] but for less than a hundred dollars you can buy all you >> need to make >> your own. >> >> For pertinent info go here [if you're interested]. .. >> >> http://alobar. livejournal. com/3346670. html >> <http://alobar.livejournal.com/3346670.html> >> >> Sandy >> >> - >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2656 - Release Date: 01/29/10 >> 19:35:00 >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I use to have colds/bronchitis alot. At least once a month. I havent had a cold since i began iodine. My lung function seems to be greatly improved. I was on C prior to iodine so i doubt its " just " C that helps this. I think the heart palps will go away with enough mag and salt. Cheryl > > Are you taking magnesium supplements? Mag regulates the heart, and is on > the iodine protocol. -- > > > >I have heart palps at night and it scares the heck out of me. > >Doing the Lugols in am- these palps have to dimish and soon, > >otherwise may quit,just not getting to sleep soon enough. > >Or will just go back to Armour or Erfa only. Any thoughts? > > > >Along with this, the Vit C story concerning Respiratory > >issues is intriguing as I have had colds/ bronchitis since > >childhood and now, with the IODINE deficiencies and VIT C > >possibly the respiratory could improve? From your words to > >God's ears. > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Sandy, Are you taking Vit E? From: Bruce P <brucebkdesign (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: Vit C High dosesiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:04 AM Thank you Sandy, this looks good.To me, their procedure is 2 steps away from nature and our body's design. Vit C is proven safe and natural.Ditto intravenous C and a lifesaver."nano technology" is hailed as the best thing since sliced bread. It is far from natural and may be found dangerous as far as I'm concerned. It bypasses all the body's safeguards and man is not as smart as they like to think they are..Will look more into what you are saying, it makes more sense.thanksBruce----- Original Message ----- From: SandyActually, Bruce LET C is much more effective than IV C. Doctors are staring to use LET instead of the IV C for that very reason.Yes, LivOn labs would have us believe it is very difficult to make but I make my own every week and it is extremely easy and effective. There is no doubt that LivOn labs uses state of the art equipment [which costs lots of money] but for less than a hundred dollars you can buy all you need to make your own.For pertinent info go here [if you're interested]. ..http://alobar. livejournal. com/3346670. htmlSandy- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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