RE: Iodine and zero TSH. ? Steph

[Guest guest]

That's a good point. Luckily I have the best doctor in the whole world - NEVER abusive. Always gentle and understanding. It took 6 years to find him.

Steph

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

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Steph,I asked for free levels and this is what they tested.I didn't get tests done for what I asked for.I go in in March and I'll make sure this time.What else should I ask for?Pat

iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:26:15 -0500Subject: Re: Iodine and zero TSH. ? Steph

But you gave me T3 not Free T3. These numbers are not "lab ranges" but the ranges that I have seen people report when feeling well.

Steph

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

You need:

TSH

Free T3

Free T4

TPO Ab

Tg Ab

RT3

The next level:

Ferritin / Iron

B12

Then:

Cardiac panel - Cholesterol / HDL / LDL

CBC w/ diff

This is the basic stuff we run every 6 mos - with a few more items that are specific to my condition.

Steph

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Steph,Thank you,I wrote them down.Pat

iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:00:19 -0500Subject: Re: Iodine and zero TSH. ? Steph

You need:

TSH

Free T3

Free T4

TPO Ab

Tg Ab

RT3

The next level:

Ferritin / Iron

B12

Then:

Cardiac panel - Cholesterol / HDL / LDL

CBC w/ diff

This is the basic stuff we run every 6 mos - with a few more items that are specific to my condition.

Steph

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Steph,I forgot to ask what is TgAb? Pat

iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:00:19 -0500Subject: Re: Iodine and zero TSH. ? Steph

You need:

TSH

Free T3

Free T4

TPO Ab

Tg Ab

RT3

The next level:

Ferritin / Iron

B12

Then:

Cardiac panel - Cholesterol / HDL / LDL

CBC w/ diff

This is the basic stuff we run every 6 mos - with a few more items that are specific to my condition.

Steph

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Steph,So do we want to be at the upper end of the ranges?

I don't mean all of the tests.

iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:24:16 -0500Subject: Re: Iodine and zero TSH. ? Steph

Not that I am aware of since all labs have their own ranges.

Steph

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Thyroglobulin Antibodies - it's a measure of autoimmune thyroid disease.

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

The free's are generally the upper 1/3

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU,Pat

iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:32:53 -0500Subject: Re: Iodine and zero TSH. ? Steph

The free's are generally the upper 1/3

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

I thought that was the TPO Ab test? Pat

iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:32:26 -0500Subject: Re: Iodine and zero TSH. ? Steph

Thyroglobulin Antibodies - it's a measure of autoimmune thyroid disease.

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Both are - TPO is thyroperoxidase antibodies. They are two different processes of hormone creation.

Steph

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Just to let you know,I am grateful and I won't email thank you's to you every time you give me info.I am writing all of this down.You've been so helpful to me on my path to wellness.Pat

iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:58:20 -0500Subject: Re: Iodine and zero TSH. ? Steph

Both are - TPO is thyroperoxidase antibodies. They are two different processes of hormone creation.

Steph

Iodine and zero TSHI take 50 mg of Iodoral plus the supplements recommended. I've been on 90 mg Armour for about 8 months. My recent tests show a "virtually zero" TSH, while the T3 and T4 seem to be midrange. There has been a lot of discussion about Iodine raising TSH, but has anyone else had a zero TSH? I had one private reply (thanks!) to my query last week, but wondered if anyone else has experience with this. Could it be the iodine, or should I be looking at pituitary problems? I'm 66, post menopause, and my other hormones are low, which I thought normal for my age. I also take 15 mg of cortef for cortisol, which runs low particularly in the a.m. I was having hypothyroid symptoms on the armour, but my doc authorized an rx for compounded thyroid, and although he threatened to reduce that dosage, he did not yet do so. Any ideas? Jill------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

you need to go by the FREES and how you feel! not the TSH. sometimes

ppl can get by on enough iodine alone.

gracia

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> Steph,

> I'm on 90mg.of Armour for about 5 years and still do not feel well.How

> do I go about starting myself on Lugols?Any suggestions?Do I get this

> monitored by a doctor.I have an appointment in March.My TSH is as of

> Dec.0.199,well below 1.00 Pat

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I started at 12.5mg and worked my way up to 50mg. I see now I could have

just started right in at 50mg. Just make sure you are taking the

supplements including unrefined salt and be ready to do the salt

flushes. --

>That being said - when I was very sick I jumped right in at 50 mgs. I did

>just fine. Even with adrenal fatigue. I don't think it is necessary to

>have a doctor. Years ago people " doctored " themselves when family members

>got sick. We have become so afraid that we will hurt ourselves w/o the

>almighty white coated doctor. They have a time and a place but remember

>they didn't always have the power they do now. Where you start is where

>you are comfortable. There are no correct levels.

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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Reference ranges are lab dependent. There is not a set that all labs use.

Most people feel best when there FT3 and FT4 are at the top 1/3 to 1/4 of the

range no matter which range you use. Some even want to be slightly over.

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> What I meant was is there a chart somewhere that will show accurate reference

ranges? Pat

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