Guest guest Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I know three different people who have had great results from eating asparagus. One local woman was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last fall and is almost completely clear of it now. I understand it is very effective on all types of Ca and if you eat it in conjunction with your treatment it really works well. Green Giant, Stokeys or fresh apargus....it must be cooked. She blended hers in a blender and stored it in the fridge. Then she measured out 6T three times a day. You can add a little spice to it. Asparagus has glutathianine in it which is supposed to be a great natural cancer fighting agent. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it work with my own eyes. , R.N.  http://www.bigpondaussies.com ________________________________ From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@...> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 1:34:24 PM Subject: BCC  Hi Irene, Are you still around? I hardly ever see posts from anyone recently. Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith in) have you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10 days, to remove it. I am not keen on this suggestion, although I did make an appt., but if there was some other way, I would try it and delay the appt. I saw some information while researching it about creams and potions with Vit C, grapeseed, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Thanks, . I have heard that before and actually bought a jar of canned asparagus and it is still in the cupboard. I will try it. Probably won’t do anything for a Basal Cell already developed, but can’t hurt. Regards, Sharon From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of susan forrester Sent: October-25-10 3:02 PM Subject: Re: BCC I know three different people who have had great results from eating asparagus. One local woman was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last fall and is almost completely clear of it now. I understand it is very effective on all types of Ca and if you eat it in conjunction with your treatment it really works well. Green Giant, Stokeys or fresh apargus....it must be cooked. She blended hers in a blender and stored it in the fridge. Then she measured out 6T three times a day. You can add a little spice to it. Asparagus has glutathianine in it which is supposed to be a great natural cancer fighting agent. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it work with my own eyes. , R.N. http://www.bigpondaussies.com ________________________________ From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> > <mailto:%40> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 1:34:24 PM Subject: BCC Hi Irene, Are you still around? I hardly ever see posts from anyone recently. Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith in) have you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10 days, to remove it. I am not keen on this suggestion, although I did make an appt., but if there was some other way, I would try it and delay the appt. I saw some information while researching it about creams and potions with Vit C, grapeseed, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Just remember that 28 year old lady had stage 4 cancer. She had 2 children under 5 and now she has a whole lease on life. BTW....who knows it might help topically. When you are home and not running around, why not try it? It can't hurt and it might help. Let me know how this works for you. If it works, you will be number 4 on my list.  http://www.bigpondaussies.com ________________________________ From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@...> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 2:53:14 PM Subject: RE: BCC  Thanks, . I have heard that before and actually bought a jar of canned asparagus and it is still in the cupboard. I will try it. Probably won’t do anything for a Basal Cell already developed, but can’t hurt. Regards, Sharon From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of susan forrester Sent: October-25-10 3:02 PM Subject: Re: BCC I know three different people who have had great results from eating asparagus. One local woman was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last fall and is almost completely clear of it now. I understand it is very effective on all types of Ca and if you eat it in conjunction with your treatment it really works well. Green Giant, Stokeys or fresh apargus....it must be cooked. She blended hers in a blender and stored it in the fridge. Then she measured out 6T three times a day. You can add a little spice to it. Asparagus has glutathianine in it which is supposed to be a great natural cancer fighting agent. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it work with my own eyes. , R.N. http://www.bigpondaussies.com ________________________________ From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> > <mailto:%40> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 1:34:24 PM Subject: BCC Hi Irene, Are you still around? I hardly ever see posts from anyone recently. Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith in) have you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10 days, to remove it. I am not keen on this suggestion, although I did make an appt., but if there was some other way, I would try it and delay the appt. I saw some information while researching it about creams and potions with Vit C, grapeseed, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I definitely don’t doubt natural cures. My ex had stage 4 Melanoma 7 years ago and they gave him a 50%-50% chance of living. He had the lump out and then after the diagnosis had 40 lymph nodes out. Between the time he had the lump out and he had the lymph nodes out, he went to a naturopath and went for infusions of huge doses of Vit C plus IV oxygen treatments, plus all kinds of vitamins, minerals and diet. The oncologist told him that there would definitely be cancer in some of the lymph nodes. They came back with no cancer in any. Was that a coincidence or the treatments between the surgeries? Who knows but he is still alive and doing very well 7 years later when the prognosis is you are very lucky if you make 5 years after that stage of Melanoma. Thanks for your advice. Sharon From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of susan forrester Sent: October-25-10 5:54 PM Subject: Re: BCC Just remember that 28 year old lady had stage 4 cancer. She had 2 children under 5 and now she has a whole lease on life. BTW....who knows it might help topically. When you are home and not running around, why not try it? It can't hurt and it might help. Let me know how this works for you. If it works, you will be number 4 on my list. http://www.bigpondaussies.com ________________________________ From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> > <mailto:%40> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 2:53:14 PM Subject: RE: BCC Thanks, . I have heard that before and actually bought a jar of canned asparagus and it is still in the cupboard. I will try it. Probably won’t do anything for a Basal Cell already developed, but can’t hurt. Regards, Sharon From: <mailto:%40> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of susan forrester Sent: October-25-10 3:02 PM <mailto:%40> Subject: Re: BCC I know three different people who have had great results from eating asparagus. One local woman was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last fall and is almost completely clear of it now. I understand it is very effective on all types of Ca and if you eat it in conjunction with your treatment it really works well. Green Giant, Stokeys or fresh apargus....it must be cooked. She blended hers in a blender and stored it in the fridge. Then she measured out 6T three times a day. You can add a little spice to it. Asparagus has glutathianine in it which is supposed to be a great natural cancer fighting agent. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it work with my own eyes. , R.N. http://www.bigpondaussies.com ________________________________ From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> > <mailto:%40> <mailto:%40> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 1:34:24 PM Subject: BCC Hi Irene, Are you still around? I hardly ever see posts from anyone recently. Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith in) have you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10 days, to remove it. I am not keen on this suggestion, although I did make an appt., but if there was some other way, I would try it and delay the appt. I saw some information while researching it about creams and potions with Vit C, grapeseed, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 You are so welcome Sharon. I will try to find some of the research on asparagus ..It's hard to locate research, the drug companies wouldn't release any of the research to a scientist, but I will try. I am an R.N. and was very slow to believe any of this. I do believe in a lot of hoistic treatments but this was a hard sell for me for some reason. http://www.bigpondaussies.com ________________________________ From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@...> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 7:00:10 PM Subject: RE: BCC  I definitely don’t doubt natural cures. My ex had stage 4 Melanoma 7 years ago and they gave him a 50%-50% chance of living. He had the lump out and then after the diagnosis had 40 lymph nodes out. Between the time he had the lump out and he had the lymph nodes out, he went to a naturopath and went for infusions of huge doses of Vit C plus IV oxygen treatments, plus all kinds of vitamins, minerals and diet. The oncologist told him that there would definitely be cancer in some of the lymph nodes. They came back with no cancer in any. Was that a coincidence or the treatments between the surgeries? Who knows but he is still alive and doing very well 7 years later when the prognosis is you are very lucky if you make 5 years after that stage of Melanoma. Thanks for your advice. Sharon From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of susan forrester Sent: October-25-10 5:54 PM Subject: Re: BCC Just remember that 28 year old lady had stage 4 cancer. She had 2 children under 5 and now she has a whole lease on life. BTW....who knows it might help topically. When you are home and not running around, why not try it? It can't hurt and it might help. Let me know how this works for you. If it works, you will be number 4 on my list. http://www.bigpondaussies.com ________________________________ From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> > <mailto:%40> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 2:53:14 PM Subject: RE: BCC Thanks, . I have heard that before and actually bought a jar of canned asparagus and it is still in the cupboard. I will try it. Probably won’t do anything for a Basal Cell already developed, but can’t hurt. Regards, Sharon From: <mailto:%40> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of susan forrester Sent: October-25-10 3:02 PM <mailto:%40> Subject: Re: BCC I know three different people who have had great results from eating asparagus. One local woman was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last fall and is almost completely clear of it now. I understand it is very effective on all types of Ca and if you eat it in conjunction with your treatment it really works well. Green Giant, Stokeys or fresh apargus....it must be cooked. She blended hers in a blender and stored it in the fridge. Then she measured out 6T three times a day. You can add a little spice to it. Asparagus has glutathianine in it which is supposed to be a great natural cancer fighting agent. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it work with my own eyes. , R.N. http://www.bigpondaussies.com ________________________________ From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> > <mailto:%40> <mailto:%40> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 1:34:24 PM Subject: BCC Hi Irene, Are you still around? I hardly ever see posts from anyone recently. Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith in) have you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10 days, to remove it. I am not keen on this suggestion, although I did make an appt., but if there was some other way, I would try it and delay the appt. I saw some information while researching it about creams and potions with Vit C, grapeseed, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 On Oct 25, 2010, at 5:38 PM, susan forrester wrote: > You are so welcome Sharon. I will try to find some of the research > on asparagus From the new organotherapy textbook by Dr Rozencwajg: Asparagus has a LONG history of medical benefit. Hippocrates (400BC) for example, recommended it for the skin. It is mentioned in the Talmud for hearft, eyes and bowels It is well known as a cleanser and diuretic, it drains the liver, the kidney and bowels. It is useful in blood hyperviscocity (way nicer than the rat poison usually prescribed to " thin " the blood) and heart palpitations. As a diuretic it helps gout and rheumatism. It is rich in minerals: Ca, P, Fe, Na, K, Mb, St, Si, Mn, Cu, I.... Warnings: It makes a strong urine odor due tot he asparagin and the methyl- mercaptan. Used in excess it can irritate the kidneys, so be cafreful if there is kidney dfamag or cyctitis etc.. I did a search and found a few new research items (there are thirty studies with asparagus and cancer involved at PubMed.): ......................................................................... ....................... Semin Oncol. 2010 Jun;37(3):258-81. Cancer prevention with natural compounds. Gullett NP, Ruhul Amin AR, Bayraktar S, Pezzuto JM, Shin DM, Khuri FR, Aggarwal BB, Surh YJ, Kucuk O. Department of Radiation Oncology, Winship Cancer Institute, Emory University, Atlanta, GA 30322, USA. Abstract Botanical and nutritional compounds have been used for the treatment of cancer throughout history. These compounds also may be useful in the prevention of cancer. Population studies suggest that a reduced risk of cancer is associated with high consumption of vegetables and fruits. Thus, the cancer chemopreventive potential of naturally occurring phytochemicals is of great interest. There are numerous reports of cancer chemopreventive activity of dietary botanicals, including cruciferous vegetables such as cabbage and broccoli, Allium vegetables such as garlic and onion, green tea, Citrus fruits, soybeans, tomatoes, berries, and ginger, as well as medicinal plants. Several lead compounds, such as genistein (from soybeans), lycopene (from tomatoes), brassinin (from cruciferous vegetables), sulforaphane (from asparagus), indole-3-carbinol (from broccoli), and resveratrol (from grapes and peanuts) are in preclinical or clinical trials for cancer chemoprevention. Phytochemicals have great potential in cancer prevention because of their safety, low cost, and oral bioavailability. In this review, we discuss potential natural cancer preventive compounds and their mechanisms of action. ......................................................................... ........... Biochem Biophys Res Commun. 2009 Apr 17;381(4):700-5. Epub 2009 Feb 28. Asparanin A induces G(2)/M cell cycle arrest and apoptosis in human hepatocellular carcinoma HepG2 cells. Liu W, Huang XF, Qi Q, Dai QS, Yang L, Nie FF, Lu N, Gong DD, Kong LY, Guo QL. Department of Physiology, China Pharmaceutical University, Nanjing, People's Republic of China. Abstract We recently established that asparanin A, a steroidal saponin extracted from Asparagus officinalis L., is an active cytotoxic component. The molecular mechanisms by which asparanin A exerts its cytotoxic activity are currently unknown. In this study, we show that asparanin A induces G(2)/M phase arrest and apoptosis in human hepatocellular carcinoma HepG2 cells. Following treatment of HepG2 cells with asparanin A, cell cycle-related proteins such as cyclin A, Cdk1 and Cdk4 were down-regulated, while p21(WAF1/Cip1) and p-Cdk1 (Thr14/Tyr15) were up-regulated. Additionally, we observed poly (ADP- ribose) polymerase (PARP) cleavage and activation of caspase-3, caspase-8 and caspase-9. The expression ratio of Bax/Bcl-2 was increased in the treated cells, where Bax was also up-regulated. We also found that the expression of p53, a modulator of p21(WAF1/Cip1) and Bax, was not affected in asparanin A-treated cells. Collectively, our findings demonstrate that asparanin A induces cell cycle arrest and triggers apoptosis via a p53-independent manner in HepG2 cells. These data indicate that asparanin A shows promise as a preventive and/or therapeutic agent against human hepatoma. ..................................................... Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote: > Hi Irene, > > > > Are you still around? More round than around, but yes ..... :-) > > Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith > in) have > you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not remember where or when he wrote it. How about writing to him directly? <<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10 days, to remove it.>> I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself. (I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century - chased it fast.) I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since. Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier. Some hunting later, I found it: QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg: " Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the fire to get warmer? Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma. Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful. I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow in their gardens or buy in the supermarket. You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/ research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking results. It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after treatment for statistical analysis. Enjoy the summer! " Except the link has changed. it is now: http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-) Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is: jroz@... You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-) In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to find out what he suggests in that regard. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Hi Irene, Thank you so much for your suggestions. I don't mind doing the internal stuff as well but really wanted to find a topical treatment to do at the same time. I actually saw that article from Dr. Rozencwajg yesterday when I was surfing for answers, but I trust these things much more when they are recommended by someone you respect. I am also looking into a couple of things in my own area with light therapy that someone is trying to prove to the Cancer Centre in Toronto that it works. Will let you know what happens. Again, thanks everyone for your input, I really appreciate it. It is so nice to turn to an intelligent group of people for help. It is so difficult to fight main stream medicine. I didn't even tell my best friend who is a physiotherapist because we continually argue over alternative treatments - she is strictly medical and pharmaceuticals all the way. We have agreed to disagree. Thanks, Sharon (Ontario) Canada www.aguide2ontario.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Irene de Villiers Sent: October-26-10 8:44 AM Subject: Re: BCC On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote: > Hi Irene, > > > > Are you still around? More round than around, but yes ..... :-) > > Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith > in) have > you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not remember where or when he wrote it. How about writing to him directly? <<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10 days, to remove it.>> I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself. (I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century - chased it fast.) I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since. Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier. Some hunting later, I found it: QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg: " Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the fire to get warmer? Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma. Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful. I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow in their gardens or buy in the supermarket. You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/ research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking results. It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after treatment for statistical analysis. Enjoy the summer! " Except the link has changed. it is now: http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-) Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is: jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-) In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to find out what he suggests in that regard. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 what about making a cooked asparagus paste and putting that on the spot, direct, covered w/ bandage ? I test yes on this... keep us posted !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 How about using a hydrated calcium bentonite clay poultice, which draws toxins out? The medium used to hydrate can be varied to maximize the benefits. This treatment is used for brown recluse spider bites. > > > Hi Irene, > > > > > > > > Are you still around? > > More round than around, but yes ..... :-) > > > > Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith > > in) have > > you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? > > Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru > planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not > remember where or when he wrote it. > > How about writing to him directly? > > <<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and > now I have > one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove > without > scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day > for 10 > days, to remove it.>> > > I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself. > (I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century - > chased it fast.) > I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer > on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and > the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have > never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since. > Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr > Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier. > > Some hunting later, I found it: > > QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer > Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg: > " Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing > effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too > long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold > and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the > fire to get warmer? > Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell > carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma. > Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful. > I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow > in their gardens or buy in the supermarket. > You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/ > research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking > results. > It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention > your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after > treatment for statistical analysis. > Enjoy the summer! " > Except the link has changed. it is now: > http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf > > He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-) > Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is: > jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> > > You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-) > In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to > find out what he suggests in that regard. > > Namaste, > Irene > > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. > P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. > www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) > " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 That is a great idea . The young woman I told you about was getting chemo every three weeks as a palliative treatment just so she had time to see her little kids longer. She has amazed the doctors. She was preparing to die and now she has a whole new lease on life. 28 is awfully young to die. It happens way too much.   http://www.bigpondaussies.com ________________________________ From: " lescase@... " <lescase@...> Sent: Tue, October 26, 2010 5:43:58 PM Subject: Re: BCC  what about making a cooked asparagus paste and putting that on the spot, direct, covered w/ bandage ? I test yes on this... keep us posted !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Hi , Thanks for the thought. I am going to use a protocol that Irene suggested and has worked for others. It is broccoli juice and pulp applied topically. She has an associate in New Zealand who has used this protocol. Will keep you informed. Regards, Sharon From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of lescase@... Sent: October-26-10 6:44 PM Subject: Re: BCC what about making a cooked asparagus paste and putting that on the spot, direct, covered w/ bandage ? I test yes on this... keep us posted !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote: > I didn't even tell my best friend who is a > physiotherapist because we continually argue over alternative > treatments - > she is strictly medical and pharmaceuticals all the way. We have > agreed to > disagree. Ah that is so difficult. It would have been so nice to instead have someone close with full support for your choices for yourself:-) As to whether alternative treatments are good - well most of my cases are cats and they KNOW. An initially sceptical client wrote me this yesterday, after first being really upset that her cat no longer liked her and kept running away from her (to avoid all the pharmaceuticals she had been using prior to yesterday): " Thanks for helping me get over some of my anxieties about this whole process. ....... I took .5 ml and gave him a little bit. He didn't reject it or even pull his head away, so I gave him the rest using a dropper. He didn't shake his head in disgust; in fact, he looked at me as though to say " Boy, this is better than some of that other stuff you've stuck in my mouth. " He licked his feet, then ....... he came out from under the chair where he was hiding!!!! " (Cats often hide when feeling poorly.) Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 On Oct 26, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Sharon Ferris wrote: > Hi , > > > > Thanks for the thought. I am going to use a protocol that Irene > suggested > and has worked for others. It is broccoli juice and pulp applied > topically. > She has an associate in New Zealand who has used this protocol. Yes go for that - I trust Dr Rozencwajg, and if you have any questions write to him and say I sent you :-) Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Yes go for that - I trust Dr Rozencwajg, and if you have any questions write to him and say I sent you :-) Hi Irene, I did write to him yesterday and he answered me by the end of the day. He said that he knew you very well and he sent me a link to his new website. Looks like he has a very interesting clinic. Yes, I am trying the broccoli. Had no idea that broccoli smelled so strong until you have it attached to your nose all the time, but if that is the worst side effect, I can live with it. Regards, Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 How about using a hydrated bentonite clay poultice to draw out toxins? This is a method used to treat brown recluse spider bites. If powdered clay is used, the liquid added to hydrate can be varied to maximize the benefits. > > > Hi Irene, > > > > > > > > Are you still around? > > More round than around, but yes ..... :-) > > > > Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith > > in) have > > you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? > > Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru > planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not > remember where or when he wrote it. > > How about writing to him directly? > > <<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and > now I have > one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove > without > scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day > for 10 > days, to remove it.>> > > I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself. > (I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century - > chased it fast.) > I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer > on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and > the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have > never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since. > Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr > Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier. > > Some hunting later, I found it: > > QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer > Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg: > " Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing > effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too > long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold > and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the > fire to get warmer? > Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell > carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma. > Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful. > I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow > in their gardens or buy in the supermarket. > You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/ > research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking > results. > It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention > your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after > treatment for statistical analysis. > Enjoy the summer! " > Except the link has changed. it is now: > http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf > > He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-) > Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is: > jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> > > You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-) > In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to > find out what he suggests in that regard. > > Namaste, > Irene > > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. > P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. > www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) > " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:46 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote: > I did write to him yesterday and he answered me by the end of the > day. He > said that he knew you very well and he sent me a link to his new > website. > Looks like he has a very interesting clinic. Yes, I am trying the > broccoli. > Had no idea that broccoli smelled so strong until you have it > attached to > your nose all the time, but if that is the worst side effect, I can > live > with it. :-) Not the usual " makeup " either but as long as it works, I'd have to agree. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Sharon, You mentioned light therapy, is that the same as lazer or proton therapy? Re: BCC On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote: > Hi Irene, > > > > Are you still around? More round than around, but yes ..... :-) > > Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith > in) have > you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not remember where or when he wrote it. How about writing to him directly? <<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10 days, to remove it.>> I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself. (I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century - chased it fast.) I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since. Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier. Some hunting later, I found it: QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg: " Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the fire to get warmer? Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma. Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful. I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow in their gardens or buy in the supermarket. You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/ research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking results. It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after treatment for statistical analysis. Enjoy the summer! " Except the link has changed. it is now: http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-) Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is: jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-) In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to find out what he suggests in that regard. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Hi , I mentioned Photodynamic Light Therapy that someone was telling me about. I don't know much about it but these were the websites I was referred to. Check out www.cancerlighttherapy.com and www.killingcancer.ca There seems to be some interest in the medical field using it in place of radiation for cancer. Don't know anything else about it. Regards, Sharon From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Murray Sent: October-28-10 8:30 PM Subject: Re: BCC Sharon, You mentioned light therapy, is that the same as lazer or proton therapy? Re: BCC On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote: > Hi Irene, > > > > Are you still around? More round than around, but yes ..... :-) > > Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith > in) have > you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not remember where or when he wrote it. How about writing to him directly? <<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10 days, to remove it.>> I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself. (I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century - chased it fast.) I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since. Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier. Some hunting later, I found it: QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg: " Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the fire to get warmer? Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma. Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful. I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow in their gardens or buy in the supermarket. You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/ research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking results. It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after treatment for statistical analysis. Enjoy the summer! " Except the link has changed. it is now: http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-) Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is: jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-) In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to find out what he suggests in that regard. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Thank you Sharon. These may help some people I know. Re: BCC On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote: > Hi Irene, > > > > Are you still around? More round than around, but yes ..... :-) > > Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith > in) have > you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not remember where or when he wrote it. How about writing to him directly? <<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10 days, to remove it.>> I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself. (I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century - chased it fast.) I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since. Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier. Some hunting later, I found it: QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg: " Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the fire to get warmer? Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma. Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful. I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow in their gardens or buy in the supermarket. You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/ research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking results. It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after treatment for statistical analysis. Enjoy the summer! " Except the link has changed. it is now: http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-) Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is: jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-) In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to find out what he suggests in that regard. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Your welcome. Here is some more information. If you want to email me with your own email address, I can send you a bunch of other documents about it. My email is sharonferris@... Tom Kerber President Kerber Applied Research Inc. 944 South Service Road Stoney Creek, Ontario Canada L8E 6A2 Phone: 905 643 1212 Fax : 905 643 1213 Web : www.kerberresearch.com <http://www.kerberresearch.com/> email : tkerber@... <http://ca.mc567.mail./mc/compose?to=tkerberkarcomm (DOT) net> LET THERE BE LIGHT... and the light was good! Gen 1:3 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Murray Sent: October-28-10 10:10 PM Subject: Re: BCC Thank you Sharon. These may help some people I know. Re: BCC On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote: > Hi Irene, > > > > Are you still around? More round than around, but yes ..... :-) > > Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith > in) have > you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma? Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not remember where or when he wrote it. How about writing to him directly? <<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10 days, to remove it.>> I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself. (I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century - chased it fast.) I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since. Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier. Some hunting later, I found it: QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg: " Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the fire to get warmer? Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma. Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful. I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow in their gardens or buy in the supermarket. You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/ research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking results. It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after treatment for statistical analysis. Enjoy the summer! " Except the link has changed. it is now: http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-) Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is: jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-) In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to find out what he suggests in that regard. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:28 PM, nanetteng@... wrote: > How about using a hydrated calcium bentonite clay poultice, which > draws toxins out? The medium used to hydrate can be varied to > maximize the benefits. This treatment is used for brown recluse > spider bites. That and other things were tried for my brown recluse bite - none of them helped. I was due to have my leg amputated (it had developed gangrene) when my cousin came along and used a homeopathic remedy which fixed it fast. Bentonite is dicey stuff. Like dilute concrete - it is used in a slurry in oil drilling to be thicker than water so as to wash up the shavings from the drill bit to get them out of the way. Perhaps the major use for it these days is to make cat litter clump. It does not actually chemically extract anything, it just makes a thicker substance using whatever is there ..... as in " clumping litter " action. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I have been using pascalite, a specialized bentonite clay, both externally and internally for the past 2 months on my eczema (which has been ongoing for 35 years), and now my eczema symptoms are gone. When I'm off the clay treatments for as long as a week, the symptoms start to come back. Also, my husband (71 yo), who has had problems with his urine flow for the past 5 years, after having prostate problems, now has a steady stream. The clay also resolved a pain in his knee that bothered him for 10 years (not arthritis). We'd tried other things and they would help at first, but then the pain would come back. With the clay treatments, even after being off for a week, the pain has not returned. I personally would not discount the benefits that can be achieved with bentonite clay. I have been told that the quality of clay varies greatly depending on where you buy it. I think that's wonderful that you found a homeopathic remedy that saved your leg. Would you mind sharing what that homeopathic remedy was? > > > How about using a hydrated calcium bentonite clay poultice, which > > draws toxins out? The medium used to hydrate can be varied to > > maximize the benefits. This treatment is used for brown recluse > > spider bites. > > That and other things were tried for my brown recluse bite - none of > them helped. I was due to have my leg amputated (it had developed > gangrene) when my cousin came along and used a homeopathic remedy > which fixed it fast. > > Bentonite is dicey stuff. Like dilute concrete - it is used in a > slurry in oil drilling to be thicker than water so as to wash up the > shavings from the drill bit to get them out of the way. Perhaps the > major use for it these days is to make cat litter clump. > It does not actually chemically extract anything, it just makes a > thicker substance using whatever is there ..... as in " clumping > litter " action. > > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. > P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. > www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) > " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:16 PM, nanetteng@... wrote: > > I have been using pascalite, a specialized bentonite clay, both > externally and internally for the past 2 months on my eczema (which > has been ongoing for 35 years), and now my eczema symptoms are > gone. When I'm off the clay treatments for as long as a week, the > symptoms start to come back. This is proof that the clay is NOT helping your eczema. It is only making it go deeper - being suppressed. A true curative remedy would make the eczema go away and it would stay gone if you stopped the remedy. Suppression of disease really just drives the disease energy internally, where eventually it will emerge as something worse. Conventional medicine often (always?) uses suppression in the HOPE that the body will not only overcome the suppression but also heal itself meantime. That may work - the body MIGHT be ready to cure itself (as the bentonite has no curative ingredient) - but if it does not cure itself, that asks for a worse illness to replace the one being treated. (Drug companies like the suppression to require repeated refills for ever.) > Also, my husband (71 yo), who has had problems with his urine flow > for the past 5 years, after having prostate problems Prostate issues have to do with enlargement of the prostate that then physically squashes the urinary tract vessel (urethra), preventing free flow. Undoing the swelling is the best (only) fix. Maybe he improved his diet - it has a better effect quite quickly on the prostate. For clay to be useful it has to be loaded with something. For example research shows if you want to extract negative ions you load the clay with positive ions. If you want to extract pesticides, you load it with the right chemical to destroy the pesticide, and so on. The clay is only a carrier for something which may exert an effect - it's not medicinal by itself. By itself all it can do is soak up whatever is liquid in the area - which may or may not be a bad/good thing. > > I think that's wonderful that you found a homeopathic remedy that > saved your leg. Would you mind sharing what that homeopathic remedy > was? Oh, I thought I had mentioned it, sorry - it was Calendula officinalis 200C potency. Great stuff for any wound. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 I didn't say that the clay healed my eczema. It made the symptoms go away, which is good enough for me, especially after having suffered for 35 years. Whatever it did to accomplish that I don't know, but there hasn't been anything prior to this that I have tried that has worked. Please share with me your ideas for a cure. My husband and I have been on ERFYT, LRFYT and now the Genotype Eating Plans since their inceptions. Despite being on these plans for nearly 20 years, my husband developed prostate problems that resulted in blockage of the flow of his urine for the past few years, and he developed a non-arthritic pain in his knee. We had not been doing anything differently at the time we started the bentonite clay treatments. I am not qualified to dissect how it worked or why, only that his knee pain away after taking the clay internally for 2 days, and he had free flowing urine after ingesting for 2 months. I concede that all of the above outcomes may be coincidental, but they may not be coincidental as well. I am only sharing what seemed to work for us, because it may work for others. I am open to what others share with me, so if you would like to share something that has worked for your similar symptoms, please do so, and I am willing to listen. This is why I joined this group. > > > > > I have been using pascalite, a specialized bentonite clay, both > > externally and internally for the past 2 months on my eczema (which > > has been ongoing for 35 years), and now my eczema symptoms are > > gone. When I'm off the clay treatments for as long as a week, the > > symptoms start to come back. > > This is proof that the clay is NOT helping your eczema. It is only > making it go deeper - being suppressed. A true curative remedy would > make the eczema go away and it would stay gone if you stopped the > remedy. > > Suppression of disease really just drives the disease energy > internally, where eventually it will emerge as something worse. > > Conventional medicine often (always?) uses suppression in the HOPE > that the body will not only overcome the suppression but also heal > itself meantime. That may work - the body MIGHT be ready to cure > itself (as the bentonite has no curative ingredient) - but if it > does not cure itself, that asks for a worse illness to replace the > one being treated. (Drug companies like the suppression to require > repeated refills for ever.) > > > Also, my husband (71 yo), who has had problems with his urine flow > > for the past 5 years, after having prostate problems > > Prostate issues have to do with enlargement of the prostate that then > physically squashes the urinary tract vessel (urethra), preventing > free flow. > Undoing the swelling is the best (only) fix. > > Maybe he improved his diet - it has a better effect quite quickly on > the prostate. > > For clay to be useful it has to be loaded with something. > For example research shows if you want to extract negative ions you > load the clay with positive ions. If you want to extract pesticides, > you load it with the right chemical to destroy the pesticide, and so on. > The clay is only a carrier for something which may exert an effect - > it's not medicinal by itself. > By itself all it can do is soak up whatever is liquid in the area - > which may or may not be a bad/good thing. > > > > I think that's wonderful that you found a homeopathic remedy that > > saved your leg. Would you mind sharing what that homeopathic remedy > > was? > > Oh, I thought I had mentioned it, sorry - it was Calendula > officinalis 200C potency. > Great stuff for any wound. > > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. > P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. > www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) > " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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