Re: BCC

[Guest guest]

I know three different people who have had great results from eating

asparagus. 

One local woman was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last fall and is almost

completely clear of it now.  I understand it is very effective on all types

of Ca and if you eat it in conjunction with your treatment it really works

well.  Green Giant, Stokeys or fresh apargus....it must be cooked.  She

blended

hers in a blender and stored it in the fridge.  Then she measured out 6T three

times a day.  You can add a little spice to it.  Asparagus has glutathianine

in

it which is supposed to be a great natural cancer fighting agent.  I wouldn't

have believed it if I hadn't seen it work with my own eyes.

, R.N.

 http://www.bigpondaussies.com

________________________________

From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@...>

Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 1:34:24 PM

Subject: BCC

 

Hi Irene,

Are you still around? I hardly ever see posts from anyone recently.

Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith in) have

you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have

one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without

scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10

days, to remove it.

I am not keen on this suggestion, although I did make an appt., but if there

was some other way, I would try it and delay the appt.

I saw some information while researching it about creams and potions with

Vit C, grapeseed, etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . I have heard that before and actually bought a jar of canned

asparagus and it is still in the cupboard.

I will try it. Probably won’t do anything for a Basal Cell already developed,

but can’t hurt.

Regards,

Sharon

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

susan forrester

Sent: October-25-10 3:02 PM

Subject: Re: BCC

I know three different people who have had great results from eating asparagus.

One local woman was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last fall and is almost

completely clear of it now. I understand it is very effective on all types

of Ca and if you eat it in conjunction with your treatment it really works

well. Green Giant, Stokeys or fresh apargus....it must be cooked. She blended

hers in a blender and stored it in the fridge. Then she measured out 6T three

times a day. You can add a little spice to it. Asparagus has glutathianine in

it which is supposed to be a great natural cancer fighting agent. I wouldn't

have believed it if I hadn't seen it work with my own eyes.

, R.N.

http://www.bigpondaussies.com

________________________________

From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 1:34:24 PM

Subject: BCC

Hi Irene,

Are you still around? I hardly ever see posts from anyone recently.

Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith in) have

you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have

one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without

scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10

days, to remove it.

I am not keen on this suggestion, although I did make an appt., but if there

was some other way, I would try it and delay the appt.

I saw some information while researching it about creams and potions with

Vit C, grapeseed, etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Just remember that 28 year old lady had stage 4 cancer.  She had 2 children

under 5 and now she has a whole lease on life.  BTW....who knows it might help

topically.  When you are home and not running around, why not try it?  It

can't

hurt and it might help.  Let me know how this works for you.  If it works, you

will be number 4 on my list.

 http://www.bigpondaussies.com

________________________________

From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@...>

Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 2:53:14 PM

Subject: RE: BCC

 

Thanks, . I have heard that before and actually bought a jar of canned

asparagus and it is still in the cupboard.

I will try it. Probably won’t do anything for a Basal Cell already developed,

but can’t hurt.

Regards,

Sharon

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

susan forrester

Sent: October-25-10 3:02 PM

Subject: Re: BCC

I know three different people who have had great results from eating asparagus.

One local woman was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last fall and is almost

completely clear of it now. I understand it is very effective on all types

of Ca and if you eat it in conjunction with your treatment it really works

well. Green Giant, Stokeys or fresh apargus....it must be cooked. She blended

hers in a blender and stored it in the fridge. Then she measured out 6T three

times a day. You can add a little spice to it. Asparagus has glutathianine in

it which is supposed to be a great natural cancer fighting agent. I wouldn't

have believed it if I hadn't seen it work with my own eyes.

, R.N.

http://www.bigpondaussies.com

________________________________

From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 1:34:24 PM

Subject: BCC

Hi Irene,

Are you still around? I hardly ever see posts from anyone recently.

Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith in) have

you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have

one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without

scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10

days, to remove it.

I am not keen on this suggestion, although I did make an appt., but if there

was some other way, I would try it and delay the appt.

I saw some information while researching it about creams and potions with

Vit C, grapeseed, etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

I definitely don’t doubt natural cures. My ex had stage 4 Melanoma 7 years

ago and they gave him a 50%-50% chance of living. He had the lump out and then

after the diagnosis had 40 lymph nodes out. Between the time he had the lump

out and he had the lymph nodes out, he went to a naturopath and went for

infusions of huge doses of Vit C plus IV oxygen treatments, plus all kinds of

vitamins, minerals and diet. The oncologist told him that there would

definitely be cancer in some of the lymph nodes. They came back with no cancer

in any. Was that a coincidence or the treatments between the surgeries? Who

knows but he is still alive and doing very well 7 years later when the prognosis

is you are very lucky if you make 5 years after that stage of Melanoma.

Thanks for your advice.

Sharon

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

susan forrester

Sent: October-25-10 5:54 PM

Subject: Re: BCC

Just remember that 28 year old lady had stage 4 cancer. She had 2 children

under 5 and now she has a whole lease on life. BTW....who knows it might help

topically. When you are home and not running around, why not try it? It can't

hurt and it might help. Let me know how this works for you. If it works, you

will be number 4 on my list.

http://www.bigpondaussies.com

________________________________

From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 2:53:14 PM

Subject: RE: BCC

Thanks, . I have heard that before and actually bought a jar of canned

asparagus and it is still in the cupboard.

I will try it. Probably won’t do anything for a Basal Cell already developed,

but can’t hurt.

Regards,

Sharon

From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf

Of

susan forrester

Sent: October-25-10 3:02 PM

<mailto:%40>

Subject: Re: BCC

I know three different people who have had great results from eating asparagus.

One local woman was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last fall and is almost

completely clear of it now. I understand it is very effective on all types

of Ca and if you eat it in conjunction with your treatment it really works

well. Green Giant, Stokeys or fresh apargus....it must be cooked. She blended

hers in a blender and stored it in the fridge. Then she measured out 6T three

times a day. You can add a little spice to it. Asparagus has glutathianine in

it which is supposed to be a great natural cancer fighting agent. I wouldn't

have believed it if I hadn't seen it work with my own eyes.

, R.N.

http://www.bigpondaussies.com

________________________________

From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca>

<mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> >

<mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 1:34:24 PM

Subject: BCC

Hi Irene,

Are you still around? I hardly ever see posts from anyone recently.

Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith in) have

you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have

one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without

scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10

days, to remove it.

I am not keen on this suggestion, although I did make an appt., but if there

was some other way, I would try it and delay the appt.

I saw some information while researching it about creams and potions with

Vit C, grapeseed, etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

You are so welcome Sharon.  I will try to find some of the research on

asparagus

..It's hard to locate research, the drug companies wouldn't release any of the

research to a scientist, but I will try.  I am an R.N. and was very slow to

believe any of this.  I do believe in a lot of hoistic treatments but this was

a

hard sell for me for some reason.

http://www.bigpondaussies.com

________________________________

From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@...>

Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 7:00:10 PM

Subject: RE: BCC

 

I definitely don’t doubt natural cures. My ex had stage 4 Melanoma 7 years ago

and they gave him a 50%-50% chance of living. He had the lump out and then after

the diagnosis had 40 lymph nodes out. Between the time he had the lump out and

he had the lymph nodes out, he went to a naturopath and went for infusions of

huge doses of Vit C plus IV oxygen treatments, plus all kinds of vitamins,

minerals and diet. The oncologist told him that there would definitely be cancer

in some of the lymph nodes. They came back with no cancer in any. Was that a

coincidence or the treatments between the surgeries? Who knows but he is still

alive and doing very well 7 years later when the prognosis is you are very lucky

if you make 5 years after that stage of Melanoma.

Thanks for your advice.

Sharon

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

susan forrester

Sent: October-25-10 5:54 PM

Subject: Re: BCC

Just remember that 28 year old lady had stage 4 cancer. She had 2 children

under 5 and now she has a whole lease on life. BTW....who knows it might help

topically. When you are home and not running around, why not try it? It can't

hurt and it might help. Let me know how this works for you. If it works, you

will be number 4 on my list.

http://www.bigpondaussies.com

________________________________

From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 2:53:14 PM

Subject: RE: BCC

Thanks, . I have heard that before and actually bought a jar of canned

asparagus and it is still in the cupboard.

I will try it. Probably won’t do anything for a Basal Cell already developed,

but can’t hurt.

Regards,

Sharon

From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf

Of

susan forrester

Sent: October-25-10 3:02 PM

<mailto:%40>

Subject: Re: BCC

I know three different people who have had great results from eating asparagus.

One local woman was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last fall and is almost

completely clear of it now. I understand it is very effective on all types

of Ca and if you eat it in conjunction with your treatment it really works

well. Green Giant, Stokeys or fresh apargus....it must be cooked. She blended

hers in a blender and stored it in the fridge. Then she measured out 6T three

times a day. You can add a little spice to it. Asparagus has glutathianine in

it which is supposed to be a great natural cancer fighting agent. I wouldn't

have believed it if I hadn't seen it work with my own eyes.

, R.N.

http://www.bigpondaussies.com

________________________________

From: Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@... <mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca>

<mailto:sharonferris%40cogeco.ca> >

<mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 1:34:24 PM

Subject: BCC

Hi Irene,

Are you still around? I hardly ever see posts from anyone recently.

Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith in) have

you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and now I have

one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove without

scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day for 10

days, to remove it.

I am not keen on this suggestion, although I did make an appt., but if there

was some other way, I would try it and delay the appt.

I saw some information while researching it about creams and potions with

Vit C, grapeseed, etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

On Oct 25, 2010, at 5:38 PM, susan forrester wrote:

> You are so welcome Sharon. I will try to find some of the research

> on asparagus

From the new organotherapy textbook by Dr Rozencwajg:

Asparagus has a LONG history of medical benefit. Hippocrates (400BC)

for example, recommended it for the skin. It is mentioned in the

Talmud for hearft, eyes and bowels

It is well known as a cleanser and diuretic, it drains the liver,

the kidney and bowels. It is useful in blood hyperviscocity (way

nicer than the rat poison usually prescribed to " thin " the blood) and

heart palpitations. As a diuretic it helps gout and rheumatism.

It is rich in minerals: Ca, P, Fe, Na, K, Mb, St, Si, Mn, Cu, I....

Warnings:

It makes a strong urine odor due tot he asparagin and the methyl-

mercaptan.

Used in excess it can irritate the kidneys, so be cafreful if there

is kidney dfamag or cyctitis etc..

I did a search and found a few new research items (there are thirty

studies with asparagus and cancer involved at PubMed.):

.........................................................................

.......................

Semin Oncol. 2010 Jun;37(3):258-81.

Cancer prevention with natural compounds.

Gullett NP, Ruhul Amin AR, Bayraktar S, Pezzuto JM, Shin DM, Khuri

FR, Aggarwal BB, Surh YJ, Kucuk O.

Department of Radiation Oncology, Winship Cancer Institute, Emory

University, Atlanta, GA 30322, USA.

Abstract

Botanical and nutritional compounds have been used for the treatment

of cancer throughout history. These compounds also may be useful in

the prevention of cancer. Population studies suggest that a reduced

risk of cancer is associated with high consumption of vegetables and

fruits. Thus, the cancer chemopreventive potential of naturally

occurring phytochemicals is of great interest. There are numerous

reports of cancer chemopreventive activity of dietary botanicals,

including cruciferous vegetables such as cabbage and broccoli, Allium

vegetables such as garlic and onion, green tea, Citrus fruits,

soybeans, tomatoes, berries, and ginger, as well as medicinal plants.

Several lead compounds, such as genistein (from soybeans), lycopene

(from tomatoes), brassinin (from cruciferous vegetables),

sulforaphane (from asparagus), indole-3-carbinol (from broccoli), and

resveratrol (from grapes and peanuts) are in preclinical or clinical

trials for cancer chemoprevention. Phytochemicals have great

potential in cancer prevention because of their safety, low cost, and

oral bioavailability. In this review, we discuss potential natural

cancer preventive compounds and their mechanisms of action.

.........................................................................

...........

Biochem Biophys Res Commun. 2009 Apr 17;381(4):700-5. Epub 2009 Feb 28.

Asparanin A induces G(2)/M cell cycle arrest and apoptosis in human

hepatocellular carcinoma HepG2 cells.

Liu W, Huang XF, Qi Q, Dai QS, Yang L, Nie FF, Lu N, Gong DD, Kong

LY, Guo QL.

Department of Physiology, China Pharmaceutical University, Nanjing,

People's Republic of China.

Abstract

We recently established that asparanin A, a steroidal saponin

extracted from Asparagus officinalis L., is an active cytotoxic

component. The molecular mechanisms by which asparanin A exerts its

cytotoxic activity are currently unknown. In this study, we show that

asparanin A induces G(2)/M phase arrest and apoptosis in human

hepatocellular carcinoma HepG2 cells. Following treatment of HepG2

cells with asparanin A, cell cycle-related proteins such as cyclin A,

Cdk1 and Cdk4 were down-regulated, while p21(WAF1/Cip1) and p-Cdk1

(Thr14/Tyr15) were up-regulated. Additionally, we observed poly (ADP-

ribose) polymerase (PARP) cleavage and activation of caspase-3,

caspase-8 and caspase-9. The expression ratio of Bax/Bcl-2 was

increased in the treated cells, where Bax was also up-regulated. We

also found that the expression of p53, a modulator of p21(WAF1/Cip1)

and Bax, was not affected in asparanin A-treated cells. Collectively,

our findings demonstrate that asparanin A induces cell cycle arrest

and triggers apoptosis via a p53-independent manner in HepG2 cells.

These data indicate that asparanin A shows promise as a preventive

and/or therapeutic agent against human hepatoma.

.....................................................

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote:

> Hi Irene,

>

>

>

> Are you still around?

More round than around, but yes ..... :-)

>

> Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith

> in) have

> you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru

planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not

remember where or when he wrote it.

How about writing to him directly?

<<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and

now I have

one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove

without

scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day

for 10

days, to remove it.>>

I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself.

(I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century -

chased it fast.)

I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer

on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and

the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have

never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since.

Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr

Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier.

Some hunting later, I found it:

QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer

Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg:

" Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing

effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too

long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold

and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the

fire to get warmer?

Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell

carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma.

Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful.

I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow

in their gardens or buy in the supermarket.

You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/

research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking

results.

It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention

your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after

treatment for statistical analysis.

Enjoy the summer! "

Except the link has changed. it is now:

http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf

He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-)

Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is:

jroz@...

You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-)

In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to

find out what he suggests in that regard.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Hi Irene,

Thank you so much for your suggestions. I don't mind doing the internal

stuff as well but really wanted to find a topical treatment to do at the

same time.

I actually saw that article from Dr. Rozencwajg yesterday when I was surfing

for answers, but I trust these things much more when they are recommended by

someone you respect.

I am also looking into a couple of things in my own area with light therapy

that someone is trying to prove to the Cancer Centre in Toronto that it

works.

Will let you know what happens.

Again, thanks everyone for your input, I really appreciate it. It is so

nice to turn to an intelligent group of people for help. It is so difficult

to fight main stream medicine. I didn't even tell my best friend who is a

physiotherapist because we continually argue over alternative treatments -

she is strictly medical and pharmaceuticals all the way. We have agreed to

disagree.

Thanks,

Sharon (Ontario) Canada

www.aguide2ontario.com

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Irene de Villiers

Sent: October-26-10 8:44 AM

Subject: Re: BCC

On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote:

> Hi Irene,

>

>

>

> Are you still around?

More round than around, but yes ..... :-)

>

> Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith

> in) have

> you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru

planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not

remember where or when he wrote it.

How about writing to him directly?

<<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and

now I have

one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove

without

scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day

for 10

days, to remove it.>>

I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself.

(I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century -

chased it fast.)

I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer

on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and

the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have

never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since.

Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr

Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier.

Some hunting later, I found it:

QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer

Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg:

" Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing

effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too

long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold

and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the

fire to get warmer?

Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell

carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma.

Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful.

I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow

in their gardens or buy in the supermarket.

You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/

research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking

results.

It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention

your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after

treatment for statistical analysis.

Enjoy the summer! "

Except the link has changed. it is now:

http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf

He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-)

Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is:

jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz>

You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-)

In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to

find out what he suggests in that regard.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

what about making a cooked asparagus paste and putting that on the spot,

direct, covered w/ bandage ? I test yes on this... keep us posted !!

[Guest guest]

How about using a hydrated calcium bentonite clay poultice, which draws toxins

out? The medium used to hydrate can be varied to maximize the benefits. This

treatment is used for brown recluse spider bites.

>

> > Hi Irene,

> >

> >

> >

> > Are you still around?

>

> More round than around, but yes ..... :-)

> >

> > Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith

> > in) have

> > you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

>

> Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru

> planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not

> remember where or when he wrote it.

>

> How about writing to him directly?

>

> <<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and

> now I have

> one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove

> without

> scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day

> for 10

> days, to remove it.>>

>

> I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself.

> (I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century -

> chased it fast.)

> I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer

> on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and

> the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have

> never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since.

> Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr

> Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier.

>

> Some hunting later, I found it:

>

> QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer

> Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg:

> " Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing

> effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too

> long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold

> and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the

> fire to get warmer?

> Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell

> carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma.

> Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful.

> I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow

> in their gardens or buy in the supermarket.

> You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/

> research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking

> results.

> It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention

> your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after

> treatment for statistical analysis.

> Enjoy the summer! "

> Except the link has changed. it is now:

> http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf

>

> He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-)

> Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is:

> jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz>

>

> You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-)

> In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to

> find out what he suggests in that regard.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

>

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That is a great idea .  The young woman I told you about was getting

chemo

every three weeks as a palliative treatment just so she had time to see her

little kids longer.  She has amazed the doctors.  She was preparing to die and

now she has a whole new lease on life.  28 is awfully young to die.  It

happens

way too much.

 

 http://www.bigpondaussies.com

________________________________

From: " lescase@... " <lescase@...>

Sent: Tue, October 26, 2010 5:43:58 PM

Subject: Re: BCC

 

what about making a cooked asparagus paste and putting that on the spot,

direct, covered w/ bandage ? I test yes on this... keep us posted !!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for the thought. I am going to use a protocol that Irene suggested

and has worked for others. It is broccoli juice and pulp applied topically.

She has an associate in New Zealand who has used this protocol.

Will keep you informed.

Regards,

Sharon

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

lescase@...

Sent: October-26-10 6:44 PM

Subject: Re: BCC

what about making a cooked asparagus paste and putting that on the spot,

direct, covered w/ bandage ? I test yes on this... keep us posted !!

[Guest guest]

On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote:

> I didn't even tell my best friend who is a

> physiotherapist because we continually argue over alternative

> treatments -

> she is strictly medical and pharmaceuticals all the way. We have

> agreed to

> disagree.

Ah that is so difficult. It would have been so nice to instead have

someone close with full support for your choices for yourself:-)

As to whether alternative treatments are good - well most of my cases

are cats and they KNOW.

An initially sceptical client wrote me this yesterday, after first

being really upset that her cat no longer liked her and kept running

away from her (to avoid all the pharmaceuticals she had been using

prior to yesterday):

" Thanks for helping me get over some of my anxieties about this whole

process. ....... I took .5 ml and

gave him a little bit. He didn't reject it or even pull his head

away, so I

gave him the rest using a dropper. He didn't shake his head in

disgust; in

fact, he looked at me as though to say " Boy, this is better than some of

that other stuff you've stuck in my mouth. " He licked his feet,

then .......

he came out from under the chair where he was hiding!!!! "

(Cats often hide when feeling poorly.)

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

On Oct 26, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Sharon Ferris wrote:

> Hi ,

>

>

>

> Thanks for the thought. I am going to use a protocol that Irene

> suggested

> and has worked for others. It is broccoli juice and pulp applied

> topically.

> She has an associate in New Zealand who has used this protocol.

Yes go for that - I trust Dr Rozencwajg, and if you have any

questions write to him and say I sent you :-)

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Yes go for that - I trust Dr Rozencwajg, and if you have any

questions write to him and say I sent you :-)

Hi Irene,

I did write to him yesterday and he answered me by the end of the day. He

said that he knew you very well and he sent me a link to his new website.

Looks like he has a very interesting clinic. Yes, I am trying the broccoli.

Had no idea that broccoli smelled so strong until you have it attached to

your nose all the time, but if that is the worst side effect, I can live

with it.

Regards,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

How about using a hydrated bentonite clay poultice to draw out toxins? This is

a method used to treat brown recluse spider bites. If powdered clay is used,

the liquid added to hydrate can be varied to maximize the benefits.

>

> > Hi Irene,

> >

> >

> >

> > Are you still around?

>

> More round than around, but yes ..... :-)

> >

> > Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith

> > in) have

> > you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

>

> Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru

> planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not

> remember where or when he wrote it.

>

> How about writing to him directly?

>

> <<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and

> now I have

> one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove

> without

> scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day

> for 10

> days, to remove it.>>

>

> I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself.

> (I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century -

> chased it fast.)

> I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer

> on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and

> the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have

> never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since.

> Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr

> Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier.

>

> Some hunting later, I found it:

>

> QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer

> Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg:

> " Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing

> effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too

> long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold

> and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the

> fire to get warmer?

> Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell

> carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma.

> Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful.

> I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow

> in their gardens or buy in the supermarket.

> You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/

> research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking

> results.

> It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention

> your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after

> treatment for statistical analysis.

> Enjoy the summer! "

> Except the link has changed. it is now:

> http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf

>

> He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-)

> Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is:

> jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz>

>

> You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-)

> In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to

> find out what he suggests in that regard.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

>

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:46 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote:

> I did write to him yesterday and he answered me by the end of the

> day. He

> said that he knew you very well and he sent me a link to his new

> website.

> Looks like he has a very interesting clinic. Yes, I am trying the

> broccoli.

> Had no idea that broccoli smelled so strong until you have it

> attached to

> your nose all the time, but if that is the worst side effect, I can

> live

> with it.

:-)

Not the usual " makeup " either but as long as it works, I'd have to

agree.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

You mentioned light therapy, is that the same as lazer or proton therapy?

Re: BCC

On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote:

> Hi Irene,

>

>

>

> Are you still around?

More round than around, but yes ..... :-)

>

> Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith

> in) have

> you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru

planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not

remember where or when he wrote it.

How about writing to him directly?

<<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and

now I have

one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove

without

scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day

for 10

days, to remove it.>>

I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself.

(I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century -

chased it fast.)

I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer

on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and

the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have

never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since.

Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr

Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier.

Some hunting later, I found it:

QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer

Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg:

" Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing

effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too

long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold

and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the

fire to get warmer?

Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell

carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma.

Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful.

I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow

in their gardens or buy in the supermarket.

You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/

research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking

results.

It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention

your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after

treatment for statistical analysis.

Enjoy the summer! "

Except the link has changed. it is now:

http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf

He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-)

Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is:

jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz>

You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-)

In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to

find out what he suggests in that regard.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I mentioned Photodynamic Light Therapy that someone was telling me about. I

don't know much about it but these were the websites I was referred to.

Check out www.cancerlighttherapy.com and www.killingcancer.ca

There seems to be some interest in the medical field using it in place of

radiation for cancer. Don't know anything else about it.

Regards,

Sharon

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Murray

Sent: October-28-10 8:30 PM

Subject: Re: BCC

Sharon,

You mentioned light therapy, is that the same as lazer or proton therapy?

Re: BCC

On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote:

> Hi Irene,

>

>

>

> Are you still around?

More round than around, but yes ..... :-)

>

> Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith

> in) have

> you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru

planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not

remember where or when he wrote it.

How about writing to him directly?

<<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and

now I have

one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove

without

scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day

for 10

days, to remove it.>>

I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself.

(I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century -

chased it fast.)

I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer

on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and

the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have

never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since.

Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr

Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier.

Some hunting later, I found it:

QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer

Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg:

" Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing

effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too

long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold

and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the

fire to get warmer?

Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell

carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma.

Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful.

I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow

in their gardens or buy in the supermarket.

You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/

research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking

results.

It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention

your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after

treatment for statistical analysis.

Enjoy the summer! "

Except the link has changed. it is now:

http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf

He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-)

Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is:

jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz>

You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-)

In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to

find out what he suggests in that regard.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sharon. These may help some people I know.

Re: BCC

On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote:

> Hi Irene,

>

>

>

> Are you still around?

More round than around, but yes ..... :-)

>

> Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith

> in) have

> you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru

planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not

remember where or when he wrote it.

How about writing to him directly?

<<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and

now I have

one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove

without

scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day

for 10

days, to remove it.>>

I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself.

(I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century -

chased it fast.)

I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer

on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and

the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have

never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since.

Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr

Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier.

Some hunting later, I found it:

QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer

Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg:

" Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing

effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too

long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold

and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the

fire to get warmer?

Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell

carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma.

Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful.

I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow

in their gardens or buy in the supermarket.

You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/

research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking

results.

It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention

your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after

treatment for statistical analysis.

Enjoy the summer! "

Except the link has changed. it is now:

http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf

He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-)

Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is:

jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz>

You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-)

In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to

find out what he suggests in that regard.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Your welcome. Here is some more information. If you want to email me with

your own email address, I can send you a bunch of other documents about it.

My email is sharonferris@...

Tom Kerber

President

Kerber Applied Research Inc.

944 South Service Road

Stoney Creek, Ontario

Canada L8E 6A2

Phone: 905 643 1212

Fax : 905 643 1213

Web : www.kerberresearch.com <http://www.kerberresearch.com/>

email : tkerber@...

<http://ca.mc567.mail./mc/compose?to=tkerberkarcomm (DOT) net>

LET THERE BE LIGHT... and the light was good!

Gen 1:3

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Murray

Sent: October-28-10 10:10 PM

Subject: Re: BCC

Thank you Sharon. These may help some people I know.

Re: BCC

On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Sharon Ferris wrote:

> Hi Irene,

>

>

>

> Are you still around?

More round than around, but yes ..... :-)

>

> Based on all your experience (which I have a great deal of faith

> in) have

> you ever heard of any topical treatment for a Basal Cell Carcinoma?

Um, if I remember correctly, Dr Rozencwajg (my favorite health guru

planet-wide) has said he had an approach that worked, but I can not

remember where or when he wrote it.

How about writing to him directly?

<<I had one surgically removed from my shoulder a few years ago and

now I have

one on my nose. The plastic surgeon says it is difficult to remove

without

scarring and has suggested a biopsy followed by radiation once a day

for 10

days, to remove it.>>

I sure sympathize, and would not go near the radiation etc myself.

(I used homeopathy when I had breast cancer early this century -

chased it fast.)

I work only with animals and have had one case of a nasty skin cancer

on the nose of a dog. I used classical homeopathy and nutrition and

the dog is fine - the fur grew back too - but what a case - I have

never had to use such high potency remedy or so often before or since.

Nowadays we have Fibonacci potencies (thanks to the same Dr

Rozencwajg who developed them) and so the potency issues are easier.

Some hunting later, I found it:

QUOTE:Natural and simple treatment for BCC and SCC skin cancer

Posted Sep 22 2008 5:37pm. Dr Joe Rozencwajg:

" Summer is upon us and with it the hysteria about the cancer inducing

effects of the sun. Of course, nobody should expose himself for too

long in the middle of the day, that is common sense! If you are cold

and get close to a fire to warm up, are you going to get into the

fire to get warmer?

Nevertheless, some people end up with skin cancer, basal cell

carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma.

Conventional treatment with surgery is often mutilating and painful.

I have designed a very simple way using a vegetable many of us grow

in their gardens or buy in the supermarket.

You can download a power point presentation at www.nzamh.org.nz/

research.asp with all the details, the techniques and some striking

results.

It is free, you can copy it and forward it, just be nice and mention

your reference as I would like to receive pictures before and after

treatment for statistical analysis.

Enjoy the summer! "

Except the link has changed. it is now:

http://nzamh.org.nz/downloads/skincancer.pdf

He's in New Zealand hence the ref to summer coming in Sept :-)

Dr Joe Rozencwajg's email contact is also at the link, It is:

jroz@... <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz> <mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz>

<mailto:jroz%40ihug.co.nz>

You will need some fresh juiced broccoli:-)

In your shoes I'd add in homeopathy as well - and write to Dr Joe to

find out what he suggests in that regard.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:28 PM, nanetteng@... wrote:

> How about using a hydrated calcium bentonite clay poultice, which

> draws toxins out? The medium used to hydrate can be varied to

> maximize the benefits. This treatment is used for brown recluse

> spider bites.

That and other things were tried for my brown recluse bite - none of

them helped. I was due to have my leg amputated (it had developed

gangrene) when my cousin came along and used a homeopathic remedy

which fixed it fast.

Bentonite is dicey stuff. Like dilute concrete - it is used in a

slurry in oil drilling to be thicker than water so as to wash up the

shavings from the drill bit to get them out of the way. Perhaps the

major use for it these days is to make cat litter clump.

It does not actually chemically extract anything, it just makes a

thicker substance using whatever is there ..... as in " clumping

litter " action.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

I have been using pascalite, a specialized bentonite clay, both externally and

internally for the past 2 months on my eczema (which has been ongoing for 35

years), and now my eczema symptoms are gone. When I'm off the clay treatments

for as long as a week, the symptoms start to come back. Also, my husband (71

yo), who has had problems with his urine flow for the past 5 years, after having

prostate problems, now has a steady stream. The clay also resolved a pain in his

knee that bothered him for 10 years (not arthritis). We'd tried other things

and they would help at first, but then the pain would come back. With the clay

treatments, even after being off for a week, the pain has not returned. I

personally would not discount the benefits that can be achieved with bentonite

clay. I have been told that the quality of clay varies greatly depending on

where you buy it.

I think that's wonderful that you found a homeopathic remedy that saved your

leg. Would you mind sharing what that homeopathic remedy was?

>

> > How about using a hydrated calcium bentonite clay poultice, which

> > draws toxins out? The medium used to hydrate can be varied to

> > maximize the benefits. This treatment is used for brown recluse

> > spider bites.

>

> That and other things were tried for my brown recluse bite - none of

> them helped. I was due to have my leg amputated (it had developed

> gangrene) when my cousin came along and used a homeopathic remedy

> which fixed it fast.

>

> Bentonite is dicey stuff. Like dilute concrete - it is used in a

> slurry in oil drilling to be thicker than water so as to wash up the

> shavings from the drill bit to get them out of the way. Perhaps the

> major use for it these days is to make cat litter clump.

> It does not actually chemically extract anything, it just makes a

> thicker substance using whatever is there ..... as in " clumping

> litter " action.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

[Guest guest]

On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:16 PM, nanetteng@... wrote:

>

> I have been using pascalite, a specialized bentonite clay, both

> externally and internally for the past 2 months on my eczema (which

> has been ongoing for 35 years), and now my eczema symptoms are

> gone. When I'm off the clay treatments for as long as a week, the

> symptoms start to come back.

This is proof that the clay is NOT helping your eczema. It is only

making it go deeper - being suppressed. A true curative remedy would

make the eczema go away and it would stay gone if you stopped the

remedy.

Suppression of disease really just drives the disease energy

internally, where eventually it will emerge as something worse.

Conventional medicine often (always?) uses suppression in the HOPE

that the body will not only overcome the suppression but also heal

itself meantime. That may work - the body MIGHT be ready to cure

itself (as the bentonite has no curative ingredient) - but if it

does not cure itself, that asks for a worse illness to replace the

one being treated. (Drug companies like the suppression to require

repeated refills for ever.)

> Also, my husband (71 yo), who has had problems with his urine flow

> for the past 5 years, after having prostate problems

Prostate issues have to do with enlargement of the prostate that then

physically squashes the urinary tract vessel (urethra), preventing

free flow.

Undoing the swelling is the best (only) fix.

Maybe he improved his diet - it has a better effect quite quickly on

the prostate.

For clay to be useful it has to be loaded with something.

For example research shows if you want to extract negative ions you

load the clay with positive ions. If you want to extract pesticides,

you load it with the right chemical to destroy the pesticide, and so on.

The clay is only a carrier for something which may exert an effect -

it's not medicinal by itself.

By itself all it can do is soak up whatever is liquid in the area -

which may or may not be a bad/good thing.

>

> I think that's wonderful that you found a homeopathic remedy that

> saved your leg. Would you mind sharing what that homeopathic remedy

> was?

Oh, I thought I had mentioned it, sorry - it was Calendula

officinalis 200C potency.

Great stuff for any wound.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

I didn't say that the clay healed my eczema. It made the symptoms go away,

which is good enough for me, especially after having suffered for 35 years.

Whatever it did to accomplish that I don't know, but there hasn't been anything

prior to this that I have tried that has worked. Please share with me your

ideas for a cure.

My husband and I have been on ERFYT, LRFYT and now the Genotype Eating Plans

since their inceptions. Despite being on these plans for nearly 20 years, my

husband developed prostate problems that resulted in blockage of the flow of his

urine for the past few years, and he developed a non-arthritic pain in his knee.

We had not been doing anything differently at the time we started the bentonite

clay treatments. I am not qualified to dissect how it worked or why, only that

his knee pain away after taking the clay internally for 2 days, and he had free

flowing urine after ingesting for 2 months.

I concede that all of the above outcomes may be coincidental, but they may not

be coincidental as well. I am only sharing what seemed to work for us, because

it may work for others. I am open to what others share with me, so if you would

like to share something that has worked for your similar symptoms, please do so,

and I am willing to listen. This is why I joined this group.

>

> >

> > I have been using pascalite, a specialized bentonite clay, both

> > externally and internally for the past 2 months on my eczema (which

> > has been ongoing for 35 years), and now my eczema symptoms are

> > gone. When I'm off the clay treatments for as long as a week, the

> > symptoms start to come back.

>

> This is proof that the clay is NOT helping your eczema. It is only

> making it go deeper - being suppressed. A true curative remedy would

> make the eczema go away and it would stay gone if you stopped the

> remedy.

>

> Suppression of disease really just drives the disease energy

> internally, where eventually it will emerge as something worse.

>

> Conventional medicine often (always?) uses suppression in the HOPE

> that the body will not only overcome the suppression but also heal

> itself meantime. That may work - the body MIGHT be ready to cure

> itself (as the bentonite has no curative ingredient) - but if it

> does not cure itself, that asks for a worse illness to replace the

> one being treated. (Drug companies like the suppression to require

> repeated refills for ever.)

>

> > Also, my husband (71 yo), who has had problems with his urine flow

> > for the past 5 years, after having prostate problems

>

> Prostate issues have to do with enlargement of the prostate that then

> physically squashes the urinary tract vessel (urethra), preventing

> free flow.

> Undoing the swelling is the best (only) fix.

>

> Maybe he improved his diet - it has a better effect quite quickly on

> the prostate.

>

> For clay to be useful it has to be loaded with something.

> For example research shows if you want to extract negative ions you

> load the clay with positive ions. If you want to extract pesticides,

> you load it with the right chemical to destroy the pesticide, and so on.

> The clay is only a carrier for something which may exert an effect -

> it's not medicinal by itself.

> By itself all it can do is soak up whatever is liquid in the area -

> which may or may not be a bad/good thing.

> >

> > I think that's wonderful that you found a homeopathic remedy that

> > saved your leg. Would you mind sharing what that homeopathic remedy

> > was?

>

> Oh, I thought I had mentioned it, sorry - it was Calendula

> officinalis 200C potency.

> Great stuff for any wound.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>