Protein

[Guest guest]

:

I also hate eggs and cottage cheese, but believe it or not, I LOVE

the protein pancakes! I add some berries and splenda to mine and I

don't think they taste eggy at all (you can even have some sugar

free syrup on top). The other breakfast I often eat is a high

fiber, low sugar cereal (such as Puffed Kashi or Go Lean or Shredded

Wheat) with a ready-to-drink protein drink (I like Met-rx Ultra Pure

Protein in vanilla cream).

Good luck,

Sherri

> I am having a really hard time with Protein servings in the

morning.

> I don't really like eggs, and am not all that fond of cottage

cheese -

> especially in the morning!! I want to stick with this, as I'm

still

> in week one, but the eating for life part is killing me!!! Should

I

> just by protein shakes and drink those in the AM? I usually eat 2

> bars a day, but I need to get lower sugar ones. My problem is

that

> if I don't like it, I won't finish it. I'll eat half and then

stop.

> And I LOVE food! Please help! Thanks!!

> MT

[Guest guest]

No need to panic , I am sure there some good ways to disguise it - is it

a shake, or pure protein powder? What flavour is it? How many g of carb/protein

perserving?

Laurie

Re: Protein

---Yuckkkkk. I just bought the worst whey powder ever. It is called

Absolute. Never buy it. It has 50 servings. Any ideas on how to

disguise it? A banana worked so/so. I'm so disappointed. It was

$40.

HEather

In , " Betty <bgovas@r...> "

<bgovas@r...> wrote:

> ---

> I am exactt the same. I usually drink a low carbMyoplex shake and

> have some fruit on the side. So far it's been working

> Betty

>

>

>

>

> In , " aliciasbodyforlife

> <aliciasbodyforlife@y...> " <aliciasbodyforlife@y...> wrote:

> > ,

> > i'm there with you, i dont eat eggs and i'm sick of cottage cheese

> > all of the time.. so what i do (and this is just what i do, not

> that

> > it's the correct thing to do) is eat a serving of total cereal's

> > brown sugar and oats and drink a myoplex low carb shake. it works

> > out really well for me. hope this might help a little.

> > alicia

> >

> >

> > > I am having a really hard time with Protein servings in the

> > morning.

> > > I don't really like eggs, and am not all that fond of cottage

> > cheese -

> > > especially in the morning!! I want to stick with this, as I'm

> > still

> > > in week one, but the eating for life part is killing me!!!

> Should

> > I

> > > just by protein shakes and drink those in the AM? I usually eat

> 2

> > > bars a day, but I need to get lower sugar ones. My problem is

> that

> > > if I don't like it, I won't finish it. I'll eat half and then

> > stop.

> > > And I LOVE food! Please help! Thanks!!

> > > MT

[Guest guest]

---

I am exactt the same. I usually drink a low carbMyoplex shake and

have some fruit on the side. So far it's been working

Betty

In , " aliciasbodyforlife

<aliciasbodyforlife@y...> " <aliciasbodyforlife@y...> wrote:

> ,

> i'm there with you, i dont eat eggs and i'm sick of cottage cheese

> all of the time.. so what i do (and this is just what i do, not

that

> it's the correct thing to do) is eat a serving of total cereal's

> brown sugar and oats and drink a myoplex low carb shake. it works

> out really well for me. hope this might help a little.

> alicia

>

>

> > I am having a really hard time with Protein servings in the

> morning.

> > I don't really like eggs, and am not all that fond of cottage

> cheese -

> > especially in the morning!! I want to stick with this, as I'm

> still

> > in week one, but the eating for life part is killing me!!!

Should

> I

> > just by protein shakes and drink those in the AM? I usually eat

2

> > bars a day, but I need to get lower sugar ones. My problem is

that

> > if I don't like it, I won't finish it. I'll eat half and then

> stop.

> > And I LOVE food! Please help! Thanks!!

> > MT

[Guest guest]

---Yuckkkkk. I just bought the worst whey powder ever. It is called

Absolute. Never buy it. It has 50 servings. Any ideas on how to

disguise it? A banana worked so/so. I'm so disappointed. It was

$40.

HEather

In , " Betty <bgovas@r...> "

<bgovas@r...> wrote:

> ---

> I am exactt the same. I usually drink a low carbMyoplex shake and

> have some fruit on the side. So far it's been working

> Betty

>

>

>

>

> In , " aliciasbodyforlife

> <aliciasbodyforlife@y...> " <aliciasbodyforlife@y...> wrote:

> > ,

> > i'm there with you, i dont eat eggs and i'm sick of cottage cheese

> > all of the time.. so what i do (and this is just what i do, not

> that

> > it's the correct thing to do) is eat a serving of total cereal's

> > brown sugar and oats and drink a myoplex low carb shake. it works

> > out really well for me. hope this might help a little.

> > alicia

> >

> >

> > > I am having a really hard time with Protein servings in the

> > morning.

> > > I don't really like eggs, and am not all that fond of cottage

> > cheese -

> > > especially in the morning!! I want to stick with this, as I'm

> > still

> > > in week one, but the eating for life part is killing me!!!

> Should

> > I

> > > just by protein shakes and drink those in the AM? I usually eat

> 2

> > > bars a day, but I need to get lower sugar ones. My problem is

> that

> > > if I don't like it, I won't finish it. I'll eat half and then

> > stop.

> > > And I LOVE food! Please help! Thanks!!

> > > MT

[Guest guest]

Well, you can add lots of fruit (ie. 22g worth) I like adding frozen peaches,

nectarines, strawberries, raspberries etc. Fruit can drown out alot.

Is it possible that it has gone bad? I have cats, so I know the smell you are

referring too, nothign edible should smell like that!!

Laurie

Re: Protein

>

>

> ---Yuckkkkk. I just bought the worst whey powder ever. It is

called

> Absolute. Never buy it. It has 50 servings. Any ideas on how to

> disguise it? A banana worked so/so. I'm so disappointed. It was

> $40.

> HEather

> In , " Betty <bgovas@r...> "

> <bgovas@r...> wrote:

> > ---

> > I am exactt the same. I usually drink a low carbMyoplex shake

and

> > have some fruit on the side. So far it's been working

> > Betty

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In , " aliciasbodyforlife

> > <aliciasbodyforlife@y...> " <aliciasbodyforlife@y...> wrote:

> > > ,

> > > i'm there with you, i dont eat eggs and i'm sick of cottage

cheese

> > > all of the time.. so what i do (and this is just what i do,

not

> > that

> > > it's the correct thing to do) is eat a serving of total

cereal's

> > > brown sugar and oats and drink a myoplex low carb shake. it

works

> > > out really well for me. hope this might help a little.

> > > alicia

> > >

> > >

> > > > I am having a really hard time with Protein servings in the

> > > morning.

> > > > I don't really like eggs, and am not all that fond of

cottage

> > > cheese -

> > > > especially in the morning!! I want to stick with this, as

I'm

> > > still

> > > > in week one, but the eating for life part is killing me!!!

> > Should

> > > I

> > > > just by protein shakes and drink those in the AM? I usually

eat

> > 2

> > > > bars a day, but I need to get lower sugar ones. My problem

is

> > that

> > > > if I don't like it, I won't finish it. I'll eat half and

then

> > > stop.

> > > > And I LOVE food! Please help! Thanks!!

> > > > MT

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- It is a shake. Chocolate. It has 22g of protein and 1.6g of

carb. I bought it at an Organic health store thinking it was a great

deal. Not to be gross but it smells like cat pee. It tastes like

it smells. From now on I will stick with buying it at Costco. Any

suggestions would be great.

In , " Laurie "

<laurie.smith@3...> wrote:

> No need to panic , I am sure there some good ways to disguise

it - is it a shake, or pure protein powder? What flavour is it? How

many g of carb/protein perserving?

>

> Laurie

> Re: Protein

>

>

> ---Yuckkkkk. I just bought the worst whey powder ever. It is

called

> Absolute. Never buy it. It has 50 servings. Any ideas on how to

> disguise it? A banana worked so/so. I'm so disappointed. It was

> $40.

> HEather

> In , " Betty <bgovas@r...> "

> <bgovas@r...> wrote:

> > ---

> > I am exactt the same. I usually drink a low carbMyoplex shake

and

> > have some fruit on the side. So far it's been working

> > Betty

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In , " aliciasbodyforlife

> > <aliciasbodyforlife@y...> " <aliciasbodyforlife@y...> wrote:

> > > ,

> > > i'm there with you, i dont eat eggs and i'm sick of cottage

cheese

> > > all of the time.. so what i do (and this is just what i do,

not

> > that

> > > it's the correct thing to do) is eat a serving of total

cereal's

> > > brown sugar and oats and drink a myoplex low carb shake. it

works

> > > out really well for me. hope this might help a little.

> > > alicia

> > >

> > >

> > > > I am having a really hard time with Protein servings in the

> > > morning.

> > > > I don't really like eggs, and am not all that fond of

cottage

> > > cheese -

> > > > especially in the morning!! I want to stick with this, as

I'm

> > > still

> > > > in week one, but the eating for life part is killing me!!!

> > Should

> > > I

> > > > just by protein shakes and drink those in the AM? I usually

eat

> > 2

> > > > bars a day, but I need to get lower sugar ones. My problem

is

> > that

> > > > if I don't like it, I won't finish it. I'll eat half and

then

> > > stop.

> > > > And I LOVE food! Please help! Thanks!!

> > > > MT

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I would bring it back if it was that bad. I'd simply

tell them I'd take an in store credit, but that I was

certain there was something wrong with it. Most

places are responsible with that kind of thing,

provided they can keep your business. I remember

being at a Mcs one time and a guy came up with a

half empty chocolate shake, said it wasn't to his

liking, too chocolaty - as if - they did give him

something new. I personally wouldn't keep using it

because I think it would mentally turn me off to all

protein drinks.

C

[Guest guest]

> > > > > I am having a really hard time with Protein servings in

the

> > > > morning.

> > > > > I don't really like eggs, and am not all that fond of

> cottage

> > > > cheese -

> > > > > especially in the morning!! I want to stick with

this, as

> I'm

> > > > still

> > > > > in week one, but the eating for life part is killing

me!!!

> > > Should

> > > > I

> > > > > just by protein shakes and drink those in the AM? I

usually

> eat

> > > 2

> > > > > bars a day, but I need to get lower sugar ones. My

problem

> is

> > > that

> > > > > if I don't like it, I won't finish it. I'll eat half

and

> then

> > > > stop.

> > > > > And I LOVE food! Please help! Thanks!!

> > > > > MT

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

-

Myoplex Lite Vanilla Cream powder is an excellent breakfast choice.

I stick it in a blender with 8-10 ounces of water and 10-12 ice

cubes. Sometimes I add a few frozen, unsweetened strawberries for a

change. It's very filling and tasty.

Good luck!

-Amy

> I am having a really hard time with Protein servings in the

morning.

> I don't really like eggs, and am not all that fond of cottage

cheese -

> especially in the morning!! I want to stick with this, as I'm

still

> in week one, but the eating for life part is killing me!!! Should

I

> just by protein shakes and drink those in the AM? I usually eat 2

> bars a day, but I need to get lower sugar ones. My problem is that

> if I don't like it, I won't finish it. I'll eat half and then

stop.

> And I LOVE food! Please help! Thanks!!

> MT

[Guest guest]

You could do what I do, I don't know if it's " okay " but I mix up my protiens...

Like in the AM, sometimes I'll have like 1/2 a portion of eggs and 1/2 a

portion of turkey sausage and make an omlette. Or like you're doing the protien

shakes. have you ever tried a myoplex? I use the Lite and I thnk its pretty

good. Especially for when you don't wanna eat or too busy etc. Oh another

thing I eat, is oatmeal and veggie sausage. Although it got expensive buying

veggie sausage, we started buying turkey sausage, and it's a little higher in

fat, but it's protien. But you don't HAVE to eat breakfast for breakfast KWIM?

Most of the time I have a Myoplex for breakfast, cuz I get tired of eggs too!

~Kimmah

Protein

I am having a really hard time with Protein servings in the morning.

I don't really like eggs, and am not all that fond of cottage cheese -

especially in the morning!! I want to stick with this, as I'm still

in week one, but the eating for life part is killing me!!! Should I

just by protein shakes and drink those in the AM? I usually eat 2

bars a day, but I need to get lower sugar ones. My problem is that

if I don't like it, I won't finish it. I'll eat half and then stop.

And I LOVE food! Please help! Thanks!!

MT

[Guest guest]

Good Morning All~

I have friend who just started RS foodmover but has a problem because she does not know what to substitute for her protein. She does eat chicken but that is it and doesn't want to eat it everyday. So I told her I would ask the experts.......

Thanks

~dd

[Guest guest]

> I have friend who just started RS foodmover but has a problem because she

> does not know what to substitute for her protein. She does eat chicken

but

> that is it and doesn't want to eat it everyday.

Well, there are plenty of other things to use for her protein allotment -

eggs, beans, tofu, nuts, cheese, TVP (texturized vegetable protein)

granules or chunks, peanut butter - the FoodMover booklet listed all those I

just mentioned.

When you look at it, there really isn't that much protein allowed a day as

it is. A 6 ounce piece of chicken will cover most calorie cards, as will a

few ounces of cheese and a PB & J sandwich and a few nuts.

[Guest guest]

Also, if she eats turkey, ground turkey can be made into a multitude of things.

in NY

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:20:26 -0400 "Sue in NJ" <susang@...> writes:

> I have friend who just started RS foodmover but has a problem because she> does not know what to substitute for her protein. She does eat chickenbut> that is it and doesn't want to eat it everyday.Well, there are plenty of other things to use for her protein allotment -eggs, beans, tofu, nuts, cheese, TVP (texturized vegetable protein)granules or chunks, peanut butter - the FoodMover booklet listed all those Ijust mentioned.When you look at it, there really isn't that much protein allowed a day asit is. A 6 ounce piece of chicken will cover most calorie cards, as will afew ounces of cheese and a PB & J sandwich and a few nuts.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/1/2005 10:18:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

barb1283@... writes:

I studied nutrition in school. Perhaps everything taught isn't correct or

be changed but I think this is correct for my

own experience of feeling vital and strong.

Was this from the same people who brought us the four food groups? The only

grains recommended in my diet are sprouted, not cooked. More or less the

same thing with beans.

I have a question. It appears most Americans get their protein from cows.

In fact, if someone from outer space were to visit our planet, more of the

land mass is occupied by cattle than people. They would think cows are the

dominant species on the planet. Mad cannibal cows excepted, the cows' diet

normally consists of grass. So, where do cows get their protein?

Ed

[Guest guest]

Regarding Protein,

Well this is true also that a mix of fruit and vegetables and also grains or in

other words plants combine amino acids to form complete proteins. Trick here is

you have to eat a wide variety of these to form complete proteins. You can't

have a lettuce salad with tomatoe and expect to meet your protein needs. You

should be able to get a book that gives you some ideas on some traditional

combinations that form complete proteins, like beans and rice for example. If

you don't want to go to that trouble, making sure you eat a variety should do

it. If you feel satisfied after a meal for a LONG time, you got enough protein.

However I must disagree that are needs are minimal. Every cell needs protein to

reproduce itself. An adult by virtue of it's size needs lots more than a

infant. We may not be growing larger as he is but every cell in our body needs

to be replaced in order to keep living. Protein is essential for this function.

We do not store protein for long. We store oil soluable vitamins for long

periods but protein only last until we finish digesting it and utilizing it,

about 4 hours or so so most important thing to get in every meal is protein. It

doesn't have to be animal source. Animal source is just advantage in that it is

complete alone without any veggies or fruits so you will feel satisfied. Your

body will eventually miss the veggies and fruits though for vitamin and mineral

substance, not as vital immediately as protein but certainly longer term

essential. I studied nutrition in school. Perhaps everything taught isn't

correct or be changed but I think this is correct for my

own experience of feeling vital and strong.

Essentially my substantial health problems come from a long term and severe

shortage of sleep, insomnia and then I took some Rx drug which had side affect

of suppressing my immune system. I took it for almost a year and have been

fighting illness ever since. Drug name is Remeron. I am planning on writing a

complaint to congress committee when I can find the time.

>>

From: aidsisover@...

Subject: Re: the lo-down on protein

Should I or shouldn't I?

That was my initial reaction. Do I respond to

this or ignore it? I can't

ignore it. I have seen more people than I can

count recover from all their

problems under the HIV/AIDS umbrella. However,

along the way, there were

always some who seemed to be doing all the right

things, yet still had persistent

health problems. Invariably further

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Well, after water, our bodies are primarily protein and we have to build our

bodies anew constantly. When our ability to rebuild our bodies diminishes we

die.

Regarding sprouts, they are a great source of protein. They are also unless

handled just right, frequently source of alot of bacteria. I don't know why.

Regarding what was source of college material on nutrition. I don't know but

just because some of what was taught is wrong, doesn't mean everything taught

was wrong. Anyway, I can feel it in my health. I really have to rely on good

nutrition since I don't sleep well enough to get energy from rest, 0-4 hours my

whole adult life. If I am really dragging, I have a piece of good quality meat,

particularly red meat -like a steak- slightly rare side and I'm okay for rest of

day. I'm not a big meat eater though and prefer getting protein from plant

sources by eating a variety of veggies, particularly beans and rice usually in

homemade soups I make.

It's all comes down to how you feel based on what your experiences are. If you

feel better on all veggies or whatever, then you are probably getting everything

you need. Otherwise you wouldn't be feeling okay.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I think you are quibbling over definitions and don't

realize it. An adult's need for protein is both

substantial and minimal depending upon how those two

words are defined. Most Americans eat far more protein

than they need which creates too much acidity in their

body. There are very few people anywhere in the US who

do not get sufficent protein. Even the very poor often

eat protein rich diets. If you are very sick eating

too much protein is definitely not a good idea.

Sara

--- Barb <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> Regarding Protein,

> Well this is true also that a mix of fruit and

> vegetables and also grains or in other words plants

> combine amino acids to form complete proteins.

> Trick here is you have to eat a wide variety of

> these to form complete proteins. You can't have a

> lettuce salad with tomatoe and expect to meet your

> protein needs. You should be able to get a book

> that gives you some ideas on some traditional

> combinations that form complete proteins, like beans

> and rice for example. If you don't want to go to

> that trouble, making sure you eat a variety should

> do it. If you feel satisfied after a meal for a

> LONG time, you got enough protein.

> However I must disagree that are needs are minimal.

> Every cell needs protein to reproduce itself. An

> adult by virtue of it's size needs lots more than a

> infant. We may not be growing larger as he is but

> every cell in our body needs to be replaced in order

> to keep living. Protein is essential for this

> function. We do not store protein for long. We

> store oil soluable vitamins for long periods but

> protein only last until we finish digesting it and

> utilizing it, about 4 hours or so so most important

> thing to get in every meal is protein. It doesn't

> have to be animal source. Animal source is just

> advantage in that it is complete alone without any

> veggies or fruits so you will feel satisfied. Your

> body will eventually miss the veggies and fruits

> though for vitamin and mineral substance, not as

> vital immediately as protein but certainly longer

> term essential. I studied nutrition in school.

> Perhaps everything taught isn't correct or be

> changed but I think this is correct for my

> own experience of feeling vital and strong.

> Essentially my substantial health problems come from

> a long term and severe shortage of sleep, insomnia

> and then I took some Rx drug which had side affect

> of suppressing my immune system. I took it for

> almost a year and have been fighting illness ever

> since. Drug name is Remeron. I am planning on

> writing a complaint to congress committee when I can

> find the time.

> >>

> From: aidsisover@...

> Subject: Re: the lo-down on protein

>

>

> Should I or shouldn't I?

> That was my initial reaction. Do I respond to

> this or ignore it? I can't

> ignore it. I have seen more people than I can

> count recover from all their

> problems under the HIV/AIDS umbrella. However,

> along the way, there were

> always some who seemed to be doing all the right

> things, yet still had persistent

> health problems. Invariably further

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

The dietician I saw recommended I eat mostly protein, esp animal

protein, esp beef. This was for CFIDS and mercury toxicity. (Because

of the mercury I'm off fish - for good, apparently.) My body clearly

does better with the high protein.

FWIW. -Lynn

> the psychic on the Montel show insists that a high protein

> diet will help FMS. Anybody tried this?

[Guest guest]

Hi Dolphin,

Yes, I find that a high protein diet is the best one

for me (I have M.E. for over 20 years and FMS for 3).

In the morning I eat carbs and then switch to protein

for the rest of the day. My stomach is very bad in the

morning and I can't cope with protein until lunch.

Kindest regards,

Annette

___________________________________________________________

Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

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[Guest guest]

Hi Annette,

Fancy meeting you here!? On the subject of protein, I was just going

over the Myhill page on her new cardiac theory, and she specifies

red meat as a source of carnitine, to help put things right. She

also observes that CFS patients do best on high protein diets.

Time to perfect my beef goulash, I think.

Phil

> Hi Dolphin,

>

> Yes, I find that a high protein diet is the best one

> for me (I have M.E. for over 20 years and FMS for 3).

>

> In the morning I eat carbs and then switch to protein

> for the rest of the day. My stomach is very bad in the

> morning and I can't cope with protein until lunch.

>

> Kindest regards,

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

> ___________________________________________________________

> Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide

with voicemail http://uk.messenger.

[Guest guest]

Sure helps my chronic fatigue. Three x/day. Mostly chicken, eggs, but red meat

too. LAtely I can tolerate more red meat, (buffalo heart, super low fat), so I

am eating more.

Sure is nice to be able to cut down on carbs at breakfast. Stay content longer,

and do not feel hungover.

Adrienne

protein

the psychic on the Montel show insists that a high protein

diet will help FMS. Anybody tried this?

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

I visited a bio energy therapist some months ago. She told me my body was

starving for protein. The problem is that I can not digest animal protein

well,and have no apatite for it. I am getting so little animal protein since

2 years time.Only one egg and very small cup of yogurt about once in

approximately two weeks.

best wishes

Nil

protein

>

>

> the psychic on the Montel show insists that a high protein

> diet will help FMS. Anybody tried this?

>

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

> each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

> treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What about vegetable proteins, can you eat them? Peanuts, soy, etc?

Doris

[Guest guest]

Yes,I am having vegetable proteins. mainly beans,lentils.. I have problems

in digesting nuts.I eat them then I see them in my stool as pieces just in

the same form as they leave my mouth.(Sorry for the description.).So,I am

not sure how much of them is digested. That is really unbelievable.My stool

is full of different distinct colors and forms.Nuts,tomato skins,parts of

watermelons,corn,skins of beans,even sometimes green vegetable leaves.(Again

sorry! But this is the only place I feel not so uncomfortable in describing

such things. I am sure you will understand.)I am still trying to solve the

puzzle. I am not sure what the problem is. Is this only stomach acid and

/or bile problem or something else? I sometimes think if my stomach muscles

don't work well to break food into smaller pieces.Thanks for asking this

question to me. I had a chance of concentrating on this problem. Also,may be

someone in the group can shed a light on this.

Thanks.

Nil

Re: protein

What about vegetable proteins, can you eat them? Peanuts, soy, etc?

Doris

[Guest guest]

I was feeling fine and I ate only a can of sardines thinking the

protein would make me feel good but I am now shaking, ears ringing and

headache starting. The sardines were in mustard sauce and I cannot find

the lid to see what was in that.

I also wonder if possibly something in the sardines, such as ciguatera

epitope, would cause the reaction?

Bob