Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Just started researching the spirulina and found this website listing possible side effects. Just an FYI for those who want to try this, not saying not to, just do your homework. http://www.nutritional-supplements-health-guide.com/spirulina-side-effects.html > > > > > > From: Tony Szpara <tszpara@> > > > Subject: Re: Protein > > > > > > Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 8:31 PM > > > > > > > > > Personally I avoid soy. > > > > > > Try a chicken breast, egg or salmon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender [link: mailto:berrywell@?subject=Re: > > > Re: Protein] | Reply to group [link: > > > mailto: ?subject=Re: > > > Re: Protein] | Reply via web post [link: groups.. > > > > > com/group//post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxM3Q2dmE1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkA\ zI5Nzk2ODczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDk3NARtc2dJZAM0MDA3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3Rpb\ WUDMTI5MzMyODcwMw- > > > -?act=reply > > > > > > § > > c[_] Cat > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Either at health food stores or my stand-by, Amazon.(since I have to drive a ways to find some of my staples) re: Spirulina. I buy the powder and put a teaspoon or so in a smoothie...too much of anything is anything isn't great for one! note that I don't use ALL of those proteins at one time. Whatever I happen to have on hand at the time. On 12/26/2010 06:45:37 AM, flnancy1958 (pravern@...) wrote: > Where do you find hemp hearts and spirulia and how is it packaged? I now > use chia seeds. > § c[_] Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I tend not to take ANY website seriously when they state the obvious and tell you the bad effects of taking too much of anything (as we all know, too much water will kill), but if you BUY their product, you'll be SAFE. I'm always reminded of DeepThroat's quote " Show me the money " and I'll tell you how much credence I give any advice. That said, there's something to be learned or be reminded of, from everything. So what going to this site reminds me is that in many instances one size does not fit all, i.e. just because spirulina (I prefer Chlorella for it's chelating benefits and yes Boo on Soy with its gypsum fillers etc.) helps most people doesn't mean it helps all therefore Caveat Ingestor (made up convoluted Latin for Beware of all things you put in your mouth). PS I should have followed my own advice when I agreed to have seconds yesterday. Good cheer to allJDOn Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 8:17 AM, flnancy1958 <pravern@...> wrote: Just started researching the spirulina and found this website listing possible side effects. Just an FYI for those who want to try this, not saying not to, just do your homework. http://www.nutritional-supplements-health-guide.com/spirulina-side-effects.html > > > > > > From: Tony Szpara <tszpara@> > > > Subject: Re: Protein > > > > > > Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 8:31 PM > > > > > > > > > Personally I avoid soy. > > > > > > Try a chicken breast, egg or salmon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender [link: mailto:berrywell@?subject=Re: > > > Re: Protein] | Reply to group [link: > > > mailto: ?subject=Re: > > > Re: Protein] | Reply via web post [link: groups.. > > > > > com/group//post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxM3Q2dmE1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI5Nzk2ODczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDk3NARtc2dJZAM0MDA3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTI5MzMyODcwMw- > > > -?act=reply > > > > > > § > > c[_] Cat > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Yes, tofu is a protein, made from okara, which is leftover soybean pulp. I avoid ALL soy. You can make a decent bean curd (tofu) from ANY bean really, but soy tofu is mild flavored making it more popular. Soy is the most highly genetically modified "food" on the planet-so far modified it can no longer be considered natural. > Yes raw. > > > or > www.mercola.com > > When I first saw a Vitamix demo in the 80's the demonstrator put a whole > raw egg in the smoothie. > Shell and all. > > With enough sweet fruit you won't even know it's there. > > As for veggies I get them from steak. I figure cows eat veggies so I > can get them that way. > > Tony > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I have to agree with on this although there's certainly no harm in adding some protein to your smoothies. It's just that in most cases, people in industrialized nations would almost have to work at developing a protein deficiency. And too much can cause problems as well--it's not only hard on the kidneys but can leach calcium from the bones as well. Re: Protein Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 8:31 PM Personally I avoid soy. Try a chicken breast, egg or salmon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Yes, tofu is very high in protein; the firmer types more so than the softer ones. Tofu is soymilk combined with a coagulant and then left to drain in forms (not unlike cheese). My dad told me yesterday that his family supplemented their cows' diets with grain in the winter but that they were put out to pasture the rest of the time. Re: Re: Protein Isn't tofu a protein? Sent from my iPad On Dec 25, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Tony Szpara <tszpara@...> wrote: > Yes raw. > > > or > www.mercola.com > > When I first saw a Vitamix demo in the 80's the demonstrator put a whole > raw egg in the smoothie. > Shell and all. > > With enough sweet fruit you won't even know it's there. > > As for veggies I get them from steak. I figure cows eat veggies so I > can get them that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Sorry, Bren--it's made from milk, not okara. You can make a lot of goodies from okara but not tofu. Re: Re: Protein Yes, tofu is a protein, made from okara, which is leftover soybean pulp. I avoid ALL soy. You can make a decent bean curd (tofu) from ANY bean really, but soy tofu is mild flavored making it more popular. Soy is the most highly genetically modified "food" on the planet-so far modified it can no longer be considered natural. > Yes raw. > > > or > www.mercola.com > > When I first saw a Vitamix demo in the 80's the demonstrator put a whole > raw egg in the smoothie. > Shell and all. > > With enough sweet fruit you won't even know it's there. > > As for veggies I get them from steak. I figure cows eat veggies so I > can get them that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 If you are speaking of "Watergate" and not the porn movie I think the phrase was "Follow the money" but I get your meaning. <VBG>TerrySent from my iPadOn Dec 26, 2010, at 9:36 AM, JD Schaefer <jdrows@...> wrote: I tend not to take ANY website seriously when they state the obvious and tell you the bad effects of taking too much of anything (as we all know, too much water will kill), but if you BUY their product, you'll be SAFE. I'm always reminded of DeepThroat's quote "Show me the money" and I'll tell you how much credence I give any advice. That said, there's something to be learned or be reminded of, from everything. So what going to this site reminds me is that in many instances one size does not fit all, i.e. just because spirulina (I prefer Chlorella for it's chelating benefits and yes Boo on Soy with its gypsum fillers etc.) helps most people doesn't mean it helps all therefore Caveat Ingestor (made up convoluted Latin for Beware of all things you put in your mouth). PS I should have followed my own advice when I agreed to have seconds yesterday. Good cheer to allJDOn Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 8:17 AM, flnancy1958 <pravern@...> wrote: Just started researching the spirulina and found this website listing possible side effects. Just an FYI for those who want to try this, not saying not to, just do your homework. http://www.nutritional-supplements-health-guide.com/spirulina-side-effects.html > > > > > > From: Tony Szpara <tszpara@> > > > Subject: Re: Protein > > > > > > Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 8:31 PM > > > > > > > > > Personally I avoid soy. > > > > > > Try a chicken breast, egg or salmon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender [link: mailto:berrywell@?subject=Re: > > > Re: Protein] | Reply to group [link: > > > mailto: ?subject=Re: > > > Re: Protein] | Reply via web post [link: groups.. > > > > > com/group//post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxM3Q2dmE1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI5Nzk2ODczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDk3NARtc2dJZAM0MDA3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTI5MzMyODcwMw- > > > -?act=reply > > > > > > § > > c[_] Cat > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 , I beg to differ, dear girl. Back in the days when I DID do soy, I made my own tofu for years...using okara from the home made soymilk. I did use some soy milk in the process though. I currently make my "tofu" (really bean curd) from the pulp now, as well as the "bean milk" and I usually use magnesium sulfate as my coagulant. Now, that said...I DO puree my okara in the Vitamix, making it more milky and less "shreddy" than it would be. The difference between commercial and home made, I suppose. Not to sound stuffy, but my tofu was far better than any commercially produced tofu I have ever had. > Yes raw. > > > or > www.mercola.com > > When I first saw a Vitamix demo in the 80's the demonstrator put a whole > raw egg in the smoothie. > Shell and all. > > With enough sweet fruit you won't even know it's there. > > As for veggies I get them from steak. I figure cows eat veggies so I > can get them that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Sorry, Bren. It would seem that your tofu (which I'm guessing is probably unique) is made from okara but what everyone else knows as tofu isn't. What's involved is making "goh," the puree of soybeans and water, which (for Japanese-style tofu) is cooked, then pressed, strained, or what-have-you (I'm sure you know this but others on the list might not). Okara is one of the byproducts of the manufacturing process of soy milk and tofu; "whey" is also produced when making tofu (I understand it makes an excellent wood polish). There's an entire haute cuisine in Japan based on soy foods that I'd LOVE to sample one of these days (if I could persuade them to lay off the bonito). In the meantime, I leave the manufacturing to the experts. Here in NYC, I can get homemade Chinese-style tofu very inexpensively, including the warm "custard" that I think is called "dofu fa" (but don't quote me). I tend to prefer Japanese tofu and am able to buy homemade Korean-style tofu (which is pretty much the same thing) right out my back door. So even though I like to make my own soy milk, I see no reason to bother with making tofu. Re: Re: Protein , I beg to differ, dear girl. Back in the days when I DID do soy, I made my own tofu for years...using okara from the home made soymilk. I did use some soy milk in the process though. I currently make my "tofu" (really bean curd) from the pulp now, as well as the "bean milk" and I usually use magnesium sulfate as my coagulant. Now, that said...I DO puree my okara in the Vitamix, making it more milky and less "shreddy" than it would be. The difference between commercial and home made, I suppose. Not to sound stuffy, but my tofu was far better than any commercially produced tofu I have ever had. > Yes raw. > > > or > www.mercola.com > > When I first saw a Vitamix demo in the 80's the demonstrator put a whole > raw egg in the smoothie. > Shell and all. > > With enough sweet fruit you won't even know it's there. > > As for veggies I get them from steak. I figure cows eat veggies so I > can get them that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Actually, we are both correct, but a lot of what I do with my homemade stuff is only because the Vitamix makes it possible! Without being able to process the okara to a fine paste like I do, I wouldn't be able to make tofu the way I did. The Vitamix turns normal ingredients into more useable things. Of course, I make a lot of things most people wouldn't bother with, or in non-traditional ways, due to my chronic food allergies. I HAVE to make substitutes whatever way I can-usually totally beyond how they are traditionally made, lol > Yes raw. > > > or > www.mercola.com > > When I first saw a Vitamix demo in the 80's the demonstrator put a whole > raw egg in the smoothie. > Shell and all. > > With enough sweet fruit you won't even know it's there. > > As for veggies I get them from steak. I figure cows eat veggies so I > can get them that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 I agree it does get boring. I used the Jay Robb Whey Protein Powder, I mixed it with 1 1/2 cups of water Stevia & a handful of frozen strawberries, and made a wonderful milkshake. That was the one thing I never got tired of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Hello, You did this " milkshake " instead of what? I am new to this boards. I am starting P2 tomorrow. > > I agree it does get boring. I used the Jay Robb Whey Protein Powder, I mixed it with 1 1/2 cups of water Stevia & a handful of frozen strawberries, and made a wonderful milkshake. That was the one thing I never got tired of. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 The Jay Robb Protein powder has 110 cal. 25 Gm of Protein. Carb 1 gm, fat 0 gm. So this shake is my fruit & my protein. Then I can have a Salad, and my breadsticks. Sometimes I have my shake for lunch & then at 2:30 or 3 have my salad or a cucumber with seasoning. > > > > I agree it does get boring. I used the Jay Robb Whey Protein Powder, I mixed it with 1 1/2 cups of water Stevia & a handful of frozen strawberries, and made a wonderful milkshake. That was the one thing I never got tired of. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 You drink this shake in p2 as one of your proteins? Is this the only protein you have for the day? This is allowed for p2?Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: marylou55@...Sender: Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 03:25:00 -0000< >Reply Subject: Re: Protein The Jay Robb Protein powder has 110 cal. 25 Gm of Protein. Carb 1 gm, fat 0 gm. So this shake is my fruit & my protein. Then I can have a Salad, and my breadsticks. Sometimes I have my shake for lunch & then at 2:30 or 3 have my salad or a cucumber with seasoning. > >> > I agree it does get boring. I used the Jay Robb Whey Protein Powder, I mixed it with 1 1/2 cups of water Stevia & a handful of frozen strawberries, and made a wonderful milkshake. That was the one thing I never got tired of.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 You drink this shake in p2 as one of your proteins? Is this the only protein you have for the day? This is allowed for p2?Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: marylou55@...Sender: Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 03:25:00 -0000< >Reply Subject: Re: Protein The Jay Robb Protein powder has 110 cal. 25 Gm of Protein. Carb 1 gm, fat 0 gm. So this shake is my fruit & my protein. Then I can have a Salad, and my breadsticks. Sometimes I have my shake for lunch & then at 2:30 or 3 have my salad or a cucumber with seasoning. > >> > I agree it does get boring. I used the Jay Robb Whey Protein Powder, I mixed it with 1 1/2 cups of water Stevia & a handful of frozen strawberries, and made a wonderful milkshake. That was the one thing I never got tired of.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Be Blessed. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 , Not really sure but I would think in place of your protein portion.Camy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Hello Jan,On the Links page there is a link to a post titled, "Protein Powder Recommendations"/linksAlso, IMO whole foods are preferable to processed foods (even "healthy" processed foods), but we all do the best that we can. I keep the Xymogen Protein Powder mentioned in the post above in my cabinets for "emergencies" (times when I know that I need protein, but simply do not have the "better" protein in the house - or when I don't have the time to cook/prepare the "better" protein). Often at shows (especially shows that are not in Whole Foods Markets like Sam's or Costco's :-) I use the Xymogen because there isn't much in the way of healthy easy to access alternatives! The Xymogen is more than just a protein powder though - it is a "cleanse" and "support" supplement. The other protein powder I recommended in that post is an example of an alternative to soy and whey:http://www.natureslife.com/product/Protein-Healthy-Veg™-Protein/id/241 Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)www.BlenderLady.com(AKA the Vitamix Lady :-)<))>< On Jun 2, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jan wrote: Hi, Since I'm fairly new to the group, this subject may have already been covered - adding protein to a smoothie. Can I add protein powder to a smoothie and have it count towards my protein for the day? Or should I concentrate on adding protein as a whole food to daily food intake? Thanks - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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