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In a message dated 9/19/04 4:55:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rbeiswenger@... writes:

> The extra heat generated in the

> inflammatory response makes one's white blood cells more active and

> efficient, which is a good thing.

>

There is no evidence that my white blood cells were more active. My blood

work was mostly normal. The only clue for the ammonia was actually smelling it

and then a specific test followed.

[Guest guest]

I don't know if those are " insights " , but rather just my opinion about these

things. Everyone has their own idea about approaching dis-eases, and

everyone has to find what works for them. Sounds like you are on the right

track. Best wishes.

Bob

Re: magnets

> Bob..thank you for your insights. They make a lot of sense. I wasn't

blaming

> the magnetic mattress pad, I was unclear as to what had caused the problem

> and am concerned about it repeating itself (since I don't know the

original

> cause) so I decided to eliminate any and all potential causes.

> I don't know that my liver was fighting anything. It was completely

unable

> to flush out ammonia, a life threatening substance in high doses. What

caused

> this condition will likely remain a life long mystery. I am very careful

now

> which nutrients I take and refrain from taking too many at one time. I

don't

> know if I will go back to the mattress pad. Perhaps in time.

>

>

> > My question is: why did you place blame on the magnetic mattress pad?

> >

> > There are a LOT of magnetic mattress pad users out there (myself

included)

> > who have not had an inflamed liver. I bet that there are some better

> > culprits to blame out there than that magnetic mattress pad... Besides,

that

> > inflammation is your body's response to some sort of dis-ease, right?

> > Perhaps, just perhaps, that liver did not have the energy required to

fight

> > the dis-ease until the magnetic field gave it the extra burst of energy

it

> > needed to HAVE an inflammatory response! The extra heat generated in the

> > inflammatory response makes one's white blood cells more active and

> > efficient, which is a good thing.

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think this " activity " would show up in a normal blood test (that

just measures the count)...

Re: magnets

> In a message dated 9/19/04 4:55:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> rbeiswenger@... writes:

>

>

> > The extra heat generated in the

> > inflammatory response makes one's white blood cells more active and

> > efficient, which is a good thing.

> >

> There is no evidence that my white blood cells were more active. My blood

> work was mostly normal. The only clue for the ammonia was actually

smelling it

> and then a specific test followed.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I can blame the bad spelling in my last post on my voice type software.

I am not a beilever in magnets.

I have never believed in magnet therapy all my life.

I became a beilever in magnets only after reading medical journal articles

on the cellular effects

of magnets. I now hold those medical journals responsible for my new beliefs in

magnet therapy.

Simulataneously I discovered pulsed magnet fields and the effect of

electricirty on tumor cells.

I am sitting on a 1.5 " x 1 " NEODYMIUM MAGNET as I write this.

If I had breast cancer I would have the same magnet taped to my breast tumor as

i wrote this.

CORRECTIONS: there is no such thing as a monpole magnet, all magnets do have a

north and

south pole. You can't buy an all north pole magnet.

ADDITIONS: only ever use a NEODYNIUM MAGNET. NEVER USE CERAMIC OR NORMAL

MAGNETS.

THE FIELD STRENGTH WILL PENETRATE FLESH TO TWO OR THREE TIMES THE

THICKNESS OF THE MAGNET. So the above round 1.5 " x 1 " magnet will penetrate 2 "

or 3 " . And

a round 1.5 " diameter x 2 " thick magnet will easily reach a liver tumor for

example.

CAUTIONS:

MAGNETS MUST BE KEPT AWAY FROM CHILDREN, THEY COULD BREAK A FINGER IF

PLAYED WITH, NEAR THICK IRON. IF A 2 " MAGNET IS PLACED ON IRON 2 " THICK THEN

YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE STRENGTH TO REMOVE IT. SUCH A MAGNET CAN LIFT 500KG

OR MORE.

The north and south poles have very different effects on cells and

circulation.

We also need to define the north pole. Opposite poles attract, so if you place

the magnet in a

plastic bowl and float it in water, the side of the magnet that faces south,

will be the north pole. Dont

rely on any mark written on the magnet saying north or south.

North pole causes greter circulation and healing in sore knees. different

disease use either the

north or south pole depending on the disease nature.

Experiment and see.

North pole quickly causes pain in my prostate, the south pole takes it away

quickly.

When I moved the above magnet around my head, without touching the head. I

heard cracking

nosies from my skull from the point nearest the magnet. The skull has joints in

it and by simply

presing in the skull I get the same type of noise. Try pressing on the skull, do

you hear a little

cracking noise?.

Get a magnet, cheap at ebay.com, 20$ or 30$ or so. Magnets are destroyed by

temeratures of

60C or more.

moonbeam

<cures for cancer >

From: " Bob Beiswenger " <rbeiswenger@...>

Date sent: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:15:05 -0400

Subject: Re: magnets

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> Wellll, , if they worked for injuries then I would think that they

> would work for illnesses, too. Healing is healing...(though I realize this

> is a very general statement). I have found that, at times, people get

> wrapped up in the scientific details of things to the point that their

> open-mindedness has now become closed-mindedness. This has been especially

> true in the field of magnetics, where one can find all kinds of claims made

> due to the superior strength (you don't need a gauss sledge hammer; the

> field just has to reach some tiny cells and influence them) or configuration

> (what is so special about 4 magnets arranged with alternating poles), or

> some other gimmick.

>

> The evidence has shown that both pulsed magnetic fields as well as static

> fields " work " on healing and injuries. There is no special gauss rating or

> pulse frequency that is " the " one...many different ones have been used

> successfully. The strength of the magnet has to be sufficient to reach the

> injured/ill area, so that depends on the situation. Biological systems have

> been shown to respond to weak energy forces better than strong ones (hence

> an MRI doesn't seem to cure anyone) and yet homeopathy works.

>

> The North field does seem to have different effects than the South field, so

> this is worth considering. Use magnetic products that allow you the choice

> of an all North or all South field.

>

> There is a lot of literature on the topic, but bear in mind that you will

> find a lot of conflicting information as people/companies try to promote

> their product. Everyone thinks they have the better mouse trap.

>

> In the end, the best way to find out, though, is to try them! Good luck!

>

> Bob

>

>

> Re: magnets

>

>

> > In a message dated 9/18/04 5:29:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > rbeiswenger@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > My opinion of them is this - they use the cheapest magnets they can

> find.

> > > But do they still " work " ?...I don't know...perhaps...

> > >

> > > I would go elsewhere for magnetic products.

> > >

> > >

> > > Bob..I can attest to that they definitely work. I have used them for

> all

> > sorts of muscular problems and they work very quickly and thoroughly. My

> > question was geared more toward illness rather than injury.

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Bob,

Hi I was wondering about this magnetic mattress? What is it and where can

it be purchased.

[Guest guest]

I recommend www.magneticosleep.com . I have one of their mattress pads and

so does my son. He was unable to get a good night's sleep (insomnia) for

some reason, and so we got this for him. It helped within a week, much to

our surprise and pleasure. I bought the one for our bed just for general

health purposes, not to treat anything in particular. However, we have a

neighbor who bought one after we bought ours - and it helped her with some

kind of a back problem.

I know this is all " anecdotal " evidence, and some would say it's

" placebo " ...but personally, I don't care - it helped those it was intended

to help and that's the bottom line. I think it is beyond placebo, though -

I've seen magnets help sooooo many people - probably 90% of the people I've

suggested them to, that I cannot believe there's not something at work here.

And no, I don't sell these for anybody - I just dabbled with them out of

curiosity and found something that worked!

Bob B.

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> Bob,

>

> Hi I was wondering about this magnetic mattress? What is it and where can

> it be purchased.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Their prices are reasonable. They also seem to use only the negative magnetic

fields which is important.

Loyd http://www.royalrife.com

Re: magnets

I recommend www.magneticosleep.com . I have one of their mattress pads and

so does my son.

[Guest guest]

We all have " magnetic personalities " with our CI processors. I sew a

lot, and often use my magnet to pick up stray pins. Never had anyone

toss paperclips at me, but did manage to stick a spoon to the side of my

head while out dining with 3 friends from grade school. We were all

laughing so hard, that it goes to prove we have never grown up. It

started with one person rubbing a spoon to stick it to her nose, and I

said, " That's NOTHING, watch this " and stuck it on the side of my head.

Who is trying hard to NEVER grow up

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