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((((((((((((Patti)))))))))))))

That's just about the saddest thing I've ever heard!!! Poor Mat!!!! Give him

a big hug from his Nantie in Cda. okay?

Ben went through that too, but the Luvox has really worked wonders on his

OCD. Poor kids eh?

Take good care,

In a message dated 12/21/1999 11:15:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

PMbeers9@... writes:

<< Sometimes when it gets to be too much he says " I'm not fit for this world!

Mom what are you gonna do with me? Where are you gonna put me? " >>

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Patti

Which product did you buy from Unity? I have a gallon of their "Spray Lotion" but haven't

had time to try it yet. I know how you feel about buying a gallon of something and having problems

with it. You talk about wasting money. I bought a gallon of shampoo with jojoba from From Nature

With Love and it sucks. It gets so watery nobody in my house will use it. When I wrote to them they

said I should only be using their f/o's with it. I tried one of their f/o's and had the same problem.

What a waste!! If you bought the same "spray lotion" I did from Unity, let us know how you make out

with it. I've got too many other things going right now so I know I won't get a chance to try it for a while.

M

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i have to admit..i baled lolol....i used up all of my wsp gal on tests soo someone suggested unity bath splash.....i called her and she is sending me out a gal ...but said i had to be real careful with the amount of fo's i use....but she didnt know of anyone having any trouble with re base...sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wish me luck....... thanks to everyone for there help..... patti Our members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmMember Kae's Site... Awesome oil Prices!http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/All posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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i called unity yesterday and ordered their body splash.....now i cant for the life of me find their site lololol

ohhhhhhhhhhh it has been one of thossssssssssssssssssssse days lolol

i will look for it tomorrow lolol

i have heard real good things about this splash .....i am keeping my fingers crossed

where are you located...i am in binghamtonn ny

patti

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Patti

I'm not sure who you were asking their location, but I'll

asssume it's me because I was the one that asked if your

bought the lotion spray. I had said I have it but haven't

tried it yet. Anyway, I'm from Ilion, NY. That's mid-way

between Syracuse and Albany in the Mohawk Valley,

about 10 minutes from Utica. I used to have an uncle in

Binghamton but he passed away a few years ago. I think he

worked for a company that had to do with aeronautics?

M

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i called unity yesterday and ordered their body splash.....now i cant for the life of me find their site lololol ohhhhhhhhhhh it has been one of thossssssssssssssssssssse days lolol i will look for it tomorrow lolol i have heard real good things about this splash .....i am keeping my fingers crossed where are you located...i am in binghamtonn ny patti Our members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmMember Kae's Site... Awesome oil Prices!http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/All posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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thankkkkkkkkkkkkkks deb.......i wanted to look at the rest of their site..lolol......can you guess what kind of day i had yesterday lololol....geeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

thanks again

patti

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Yup, already saw it and bookmarked it, Patti.

Thanks.

Re:

mary... i was getting ready to order from olive tree soaps.....and they have a nice scale ..i am thinking about adding that to my order... hope this helps patti Our Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmMember Kae's Site... Awesome oil Prices!http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/All posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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i havent made any soap yet lolol....but i am getting ready to soon...i own a candle shop in binghamton...and i am getting ready to add soap and body stuff to go with the candles.......and i have to admit...i am having alot of fun with the bath things....i have to make myself make candles lololol

what about you ?? what do you make ?

patti

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> i havent made any soap yet lolol....but i am getting ready to

soon...i own a

> candle shop in binghamton...and i am getting ready to add soap and

body stuff

> to go with the candles.......and i have to admit...i am having alot

of fun

> with the bath things....i have to make myself make candles lololol

>

> what about you ?? what do you make ?

>

> patti

patti,

my sister and i started the business together last year.

we started making cold process soap because our dad was a severe

diabetic and his skin was awful. we made soap just for the family for

about 2 years and then decided to get a business license.

we now do CP, HPCP, lotions, lip balms, body balms , herb pillows.

the only candles we do are hand dipped beeswax candles.

we don't have our own shop....too scared i guess. we sometimes get

burnt out on the whole thing and talk about closing it down. but then

something happens that keeps us going.

so for now, we are still going.

how long have you been doing candles?

lyn

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Hi Patti,

How is your daughter doing? I know you have had some

rough waters. There have been times that I was sure

that we were not getting the support we needed for

your family. I hope you are getting what you need. Is

there respite care that you can send your daughter to

when it gets to hard for you both to be together?

I think you are doing the right thing to walk away

from your daughter when it gets hard to react in a

positive manner. That is why I liked the book by Dr.

Green. Have you seen it? It is called the Explosive

Child and helps with getting some of the control back

by choosing which behaviors are the most crucial to

act on, and letting others go that aren't critical. It

is like choosing your battles. Get that book and have

your councelor help you brain storm ways to help you

get control....but when OCD and irrational thoughts

are ruling the moment, the best thing to do is step

aside until the heat is off.

I am gald to hear your daughter has an IEP. It is just

more than testing to see where they are academicaly.

Her IEP could have social interaction writen in it as

well. I know you must be worried about your daughter.

Keep reading about your daughters illness and let us

know how you are doing. Please take care.

Vivian in WA ST

>

> Re: hyperactivity

>

> Dear Vivian, i am haveing a real hard time also, my

> name is patty and my daughter is 12yrs old , i am

> sure you have written me back in the past. Anyway

> shauna was diagnost with o c d and psychotic traits

> about a year ago, and she was doing pretty good till

> i lost my job in dec and ins then we had to wait a

> month and now i have county help for her but its

> like we are starting all over again. shauna and i

> are haveing a real hard time i feel she has total

> control of me at home, and when i have slapped her

> she will slap me back , and when i get upset at her

> she will start yelling and freaking out. now i just

> get in my car and leave for 30 min or so, thats a

> little better.

> my main concern is shauna does not get along with

> any kids and if she does its only for a short time,

> she is disrespectful to her teachers and she has a

> foul mouth at times she lies and sometimes seems

> like she dosent care about anything, i am going to

> family counceling but its so slow, I am falling

> apart and i dont know what to do anymore, she has

> been suspended from school 3 times and the school

> arent going to take much more, she has taken the

> academic testing Iep and she actually did pretty

> good so i dont know, please send advice if you have

> any, thank you so much patty manzanares in

> calif.

>

>

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I am wondering is it ocd or just no respect how do they really know if its ocd?

Im really wondering Patty

Re: hyperactivity

>

> Dear Vivian, i am haveing a real hard time also, my

> name is patty and my daughter is 12yrs old , i am

> sure you have written me back in the past. Anyway

> shauna was diagnost with o c d and psychotic traits

> about a year ago, and she was doing pretty good till

> i lost my job in dec and ins then we had to wait a

> month and now i have county help for her but its

> like we are starting all over again. shauna and i

> are haveing a real hard time i feel she has total

> control of me at home, and when i have slapped her

> she will slap me back , and when i get upset at her

> she will start yelling and freaking out. now i just

> get in my car and leave for 30 min or so, thats a

> little better.

> my main concern is shauna does not get along with

> any kids and if she does its only for a short time,

> she is disrespectful to her teachers and she has a

> foul mouth at times she lies and sometimes seems

> like she dosent care about anything, i am going to

> family counceling but its so slow, I am falling

> apart and i dont know what to do anymore, she has

> been suspended from school 3 times and the school

> arent going to take much more, she has taken the

> academic testing Iep and she actually did pretty

> good so i dont know, please send advice if you have

> any, thank you so much patty manzanares in

> calif.

>

>

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I am wondering is it ocd or just no respect how do they really know if its ocd?

Im really wondering Patty

Re: hyperactivity

>

> Dear Vivian, i am haveing a real hard time also, my

> name is patty and my daughter is 12yrs old , i am

> sure you have written me back in the past. Anyway

> shauna was diagnost with o c d and psychotic traits

> about a year ago, and she was doing pretty good till

> i lost my job in dec and ins then we had to wait a

> month and now i have county help for her but its

> like we are starting all over again. shauna and i

> are haveing a real hard time i feel she has total

> control of me at home, and when i have slapped her

> she will slap me back , and when i get upset at her

> she will start yelling and freaking out. now i just

> get in my car and leave for 30 min or so, thats a

> little better.

> my main concern is shauna does not get along with

> any kids and if she does its only for a short time,

> she is disrespectful to her teachers and she has a

> foul mouth at times she lies and sometimes seems

> like she dosent care about anything, i am going to

> family counceling but its so slow, I am falling

> apart and i dont know what to do anymore, she has

> been suspended from school 3 times and the school

> arent going to take much more, she has taken the

> academic testing Iep and she actually did pretty

> good so i dont know, please send advice if you have

> any, thank you so much patty manzanares in

> calif.

>

>

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I am wondering is it ocd or just no respect how do they really know if its ocd?

Im really wondering Patty

Re: hyperactivity

>

> Dear Vivian, i am haveing a real hard time also, my

> name is patty and my daughter is 12yrs old , i am

> sure you have written me back in the past. Anyway

> shauna was diagnost with o c d and psychotic traits

> about a year ago, and she was doing pretty good till

> i lost my job in dec and ins then we had to wait a

> month and now i have county help for her but its

> like we are starting all over again. shauna and i

> are haveing a real hard time i feel she has total

> control of me at home, and when i have slapped her

> she will slap me back , and when i get upset at her

> she will start yelling and freaking out. now i just

> get in my car and leave for 30 min or so, thats a

> little better.

> my main concern is shauna does not get along with

> any kids and if she does its only for a short time,

> she is disrespectful to her teachers and she has a

> foul mouth at times she lies and sometimes seems

> like she dosent care about anything, i am going to

> family counceling but its so slow, I am falling

> apart and i dont know what to do anymore, she has

> been suspended from school 3 times and the school

> arent going to take much more, she has taken the

> academic testing Iep and she actually did pretty

> good so i dont know, please send advice if you have

> any, thank you so much patty manzanares in

> calif.

>

>

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okkkkkkk but i realllllly cant tell you what day i am here and what day i am not.....yesterday my friend was soo sick....i closed my store and left....put a note out and said ......not sure when i will be back.......i know it isnt good for biz...but that is too bad...some things are more important.......anyyyyway...

if we can just order it..and have people pick up ..or i can deliever it to the syracuse area......( i am there enough ) lol.....and i could even deliever to albany....geeeesh i havent been there all week..let me know what i can do..i will help any way i can

patti

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I don't think it would be very hard to divide up the orders. If everyone ordered it

the same way (in the tubs) there wouldn't be any dividing up to do. :>) The tubs

are 5 gal. (43#) each and there's a MINIMUM of (5) to place an order.

Re: Deb Z.

In a message dated 4/11/2002 9:08:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jmurray2@... writes:

we would need to have it shipped to someone who has a businessi wouldn't mind having it shipping to my biz.....i am in binghamton....i am not sure I have the time to divide up everyone orders at this time......i am going though some very hard times with a very sick best friend.....and my time isn't my own..butttt.....i do have a store front...and I wouldn't mind you shipping it to me.... Patti Our Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmMember Kae's Site... Awesome oil Prices!http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/All posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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Patti,

I just wanted to send you my love and any strength you can gather from

it. I know your heart is breaking at this time, and mine is breaking

for you.

Love,

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Are there (2) s on this list? If not, I think you've got me confused with

somebody else on the list that was asking for herbs. I haven't posted any emails

regarding wanting herbs......sorry.

Murray

mary

tell me again what herbs you want......geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh....i have them here with me today....... patti Our Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmMember Kae's Site... Awesome oil Prices!http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/All posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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thank you soo much for your good wishes.....sometimes life is just very hard..

the sooner she passses the less she will be suffering....but that is easier said than to deal with...her kids are sooooo young

thank you again

patti

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Patti

Thanks for the generous offer but I need at least a dozen. And I might as well

get extras, too. I wish these companies that we buy from would tell on their

website whether they would arrive in amber bottles, plastic, or whatever. It's

about 50-50 with the companies I buy from.

Re: need amber bottles

i have some amber bottles somewhere.......i got them at sks...if you only need a few i can spare them patt Our Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmMember Kae's Site... Awesome oil Prices!http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/All posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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lol...i know what you mean.....i have the bottles just for that reason....and boy what a mess if you dont put them into glass...

let me know if i can help

patti

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Good morning all, yes Carmen it is beautiful up here but last night

and today up to 80mph winds so the trees be rockin'.

Thank you for your replies about medications Tricia, Carmen, Marilyn

and others.

Tricia I do have whatever it was that you said. I used to go to the

hospital and make sure I didn't have phneumonia or heart attack but I

don't go any longer because that is not what it is. It has been

diagnosed with Cat scans as the arthritis in the chest and it runs up

into my shoulders also. I said the same as you. " So, I will never

know when I am or if I do have a heart attack? " But I am told the

feeling is much different than the sharp pain I feel. Cable is out

today so I am around. Much love to everyone, till soon, Melt

> I choose Enbrel all by myself.

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In a message dated 2/17/2003 5:06:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jmurray2@... writes:

> This

> is just

>

> awful.

>

yipeeeeeeeee lolol....the man i am dating lives here..and i have been soo

busy lately..we have only been seeing each other on weekends soo this is just

soo nice

not nice about the snow for everyone else ..but i am happy about it ..( if he

gets home ok...he called and said it was reallllllllll

bad........geeeeeeeeeeesh ..i have a candle lit dinner waiting lololol

patti

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Patti

By the looks of the way the snow is falling here in the Mohawk Valley,

if you get

it down there in Albany, you may be there longer than another day. This

is just

awful.

Re: This stinks!

i am so sorry to hear about your files........i know how you feel... a

while

back my computer crashed ..and i had 5000 plus fav sites and i lost them

all....i was heart broken ...and when i got my new computer i swore i

would

never let that happen again...

but my day is great...i am here in albany and it looks like binghamton

is

getting hit hard with tons of snow.....which is great news......maybe i

will

be stuck here tomorrow too ..yipppeee

patti

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