Guest guest Posted August 13, 2000 Report Share Posted August 13, 2000 Thanks Andy: I'm giving the Vitamin E separately in the morning with Depakote (400 IU) But always nice to know I'm doing something right!!! tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 I have been using Vitamin E daily for a couple of years now; unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have any effect on my muscular soreness which is a large component of the presentation of my CMT. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 I know that 30IU is generally thought to be 100% of the DV for children 4+ and adults. I also know that my doctor recommended that I take between 800 and 1200 mg a day for fibroid inflamation in my breasts, which I did, with no side effects. I'm not certain what an " overdose " would be considered... Call a pharmacist - they have great answers to stuff like this. Marina > Does anyone know what the recomeended daily allowance is for Vitamin > E. I know it is in both carnosine and Pro-efa and I was wondering if > someone could get too much Vitamin E or it is like vitamin C which I > believe the body only uses what it needs. > > Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 Vitamin E is fat soluble and can be toxic if too much builds up in the body. However, according to my nutrition text book, Vitamin E toxicity is not as detrimental as vitamin A or D toxicity. Symptoms of toxicity with taking 600 mg per day include GI disturbance and interference with anticoagulant drugs. Many people feel that the RDA of 30 mg (for ages 4 and up) is conservative and many doctors recommend amounts in excess of it to their patients for specific problems. According to my text book, Vitamin E deficiency is rare and is usually associated with diseases of fat malabsorption such as cystic fibrosis. Hope this helps. >Does anyone know what the recomeended daily allowance is for Vitamin >E. I know it is in both carnosine and Pro-efa and I was wondering if >someone could get too much Vitamin E or it is like vitamin C which I >believe the body only uses what it needs. > >Thanks. > -- , mom to , age 10, verbal dyspraxia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 >Am I reading this wrong or is this contradictory? The first sentence says >that the response to Vitamin E was inconsistent when taken with a plain >wheat cereal. Then they say it proved a huge and consistent increase in >bioavailabilitty when taken with a grain cereal. Seems to say that if the Vit E is IN the cereal it is absorbed better than if it is taken in a pill with the cereal. Which makes sense ... vitamins are always better if they are part of the food. Which is a good argument for getting your Vit E from fats where they are usually found. (And I won't even mention the issue of eating wheat cereal, and having a high-carb low-fat breakfast ...). -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Thanks, Heidi, I was thinking of it as Vitamin E added to the wheat cereal. I'm with you on where to get your E. In the fats where it comes naturally. Judith Alta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Muff, I am not sure about vitamin E but I could call my Dr and ask. Didn't your Dr give you a list or anything? I know mine said no aspirin or aspriin containing cold and cough medications. Maybe someone else here knows for sure. homefreemuff <homefreemuff@...> wrote: SHOULD I STOP VITAMIN E BEFORE SURGERY?MUFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Hi, I just had mine removed two weeks ago and was told not to take vitamin E two weeks before surgery. I was also told not to have any protein drinks which surprised me. Also no alleve or any of the normal over the counter drugs that they tell you to stop before surgery. Beth S.homefreemuff <homefreemuff@...> wrote: SHOULD I STOP VITAMIN E BEFORE SURGERY?MUFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Gretchen, It is all true. They are so much junk and tactics on the net, unbelievable! Hard sometimes to find who is right there! Well, I will take it anyway! I do not believe in that article, but i will ask my doctor just in case to find out what he would say to me. I feel I want to try because I really want to feel better in myself! I will let you know anyway. Thanks Gretchen, for all your insight! Joana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 >Don't worry about the other forms of tocophorol that might be in the mix. Often you are getting a mix, since it is really hard to separate them out. (Most come from soy bean or rice). Focus on the alpha component (at least 400 IU) ...and nice to get some gamma too (like 200-300 mg/day). > Do I get the Vitamin E that says it has mixed tocophorols? I know it > needs to have the alpha and the gamma but all of them I have found > says they have the beta and something else also? I don't know why > this has to be so confusing! Any help would be appreciated! > > Thanks > Wendi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 >Don't worry about the other forms of tocophorol that might be in the mix. Often you are getting a mix, since it is really hard to separate them out. (Most come from soy bean or rice). Focus on the alpha component (at least 400 IU) ...and nice to get some gamma too (like 200-300 mg/day). > Do I get the Vitamin E that says it has mixed tocophorols? I know it > needs to have the alpha and the gamma but all of them I have found > says they have the beta and something else also? I don't know why > this has to be so confusing! Any help would be appreciated! > > Thanks > Wendi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 We saw changes within 48 hours on vit E. (We saw improvement on fish oil too, but nothing like this). At first I also thought it was wishful thinking...I so wanted to be right about this. But over the course of the next week and then weeks - he just blew us away. Within a week it was so obvious that we had a different child on our hands - and the OT called to see what was up, since he could now do things with ease we had worked months on with little progress. Enjoy the ride. - > I have had Gavin (my 3yo apraxic son) on 2 Omega 3-6-9 and 1 EPA per day for about a month. I have noticed improvements in his vocalizations. He still has very few words, but is making sounds and actually trying to communicate with me by showing me what he wants to get his point across. I was going to increase the fish oil starting on Friday, but then decided to give Vitamin E a try. I was at the grocery store, of all places, and just happened to go through the pharmacy when I thought I would look for natural vitamin E. I found one that was natural, checked the label, and it was d-alpha and not dl-alpha so I got it. It also happened to be 50% off! WOO HOO! > > Now I am pretty sure this isn't wishful thinking. I just started him on it yesterday evening. Today, he showed me that he needed to use the toilet (a first). He put his finger over his lips to tell me to " shh " because his toy kitty was sleeping. He asked me for more " yum yums " (children's dha...he loves them, so why stop when they don't seem to be hurting anything). He asked to go " ou " which I'm guessing means out since he's never tried to express outside. He came up to me and very clearly said, " HI! " and then held up three fingers and said " me " . He said " ba " for bath as I am typing this message! Is it a coincidence? Is it the fish oils just now kicking in? I have decreased the trans fats in all of our diets recently. Is that the key? I don't know, but whatever it is, it's working! I'm hoping to have more to report in the next few days. > > Mandy Knapp > Creative Memories Unit Leader > (847) 245-4133 > (224) 577-8304 > www.mycmsite.com/mandyknapp > > Your Life | Your Story | Your Way > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 What dose of Vit E are you giving along with the fish oil? " claudia.morris " <claudia.morris@...> wrote: We saw changes within 48 hours on vit E. (We saw improvement on fish oil too, but nothing like this). At first I also thought it was wishful thinking...I so wanted to be right about this. But over the course of the next week and then weeks - he just blew us away. Within a week it was so obvious that we had a different child on our hands - and the OT called to see what was up, since he could now do things with ease we had worked months on with little progress. Enjoy the ride. - > I have had Gavin (my 3yo apraxic son) on 2 Omega 3-6-9 and 1 EPA per day for about a month. I have noticed improvements in his vocalizations. He still has very few words, but is making sounds and actually trying to communicate with me by showing me what he wants to get his point across. I was going to increase the fish oil starting on Friday, but then decided to give Vitamin E a try. I was at the grocery store, of all places, and just happened to go through the pharmacy when I thought I would look for natural vitamin E. I found one that was natural, checked the label, and it was d-alpha and not dl-alpha so I got it. It also happened to be 50% off! WOO HOO! > > Now I am pretty sure this isn't wishful thinking. I just started him on it yesterday evening. Today, he showed me that he needed to use the toilet (a first). He put his finger over his lips to tell me to " shh " because his toy kitty was sleeping. He asked me for more " yum yums " (children's dha...he loves them, so why stop when they don't seem to be hurting anything). He asked to go " ou " which I'm guessing means out since he's never tried to express outside. He came up to me and very clearly said, " HI! " and then held up three fingers and said " me " . He said " ba " for bath as I am typing this message! Is it a coincidence? Is it the fish oils just now kicking in? I have decreased the trans fats in all of our diets recently. Is that the key? I don't know, but whatever it is, it's working! I'm hoping to have more to report in the next few days. > > Mandy Knapp > Creative Memories Unit Leader > (847) 245-4133 > (224) 577-8304 > www.mycmsite.com/mandyknapp > > Your Life | Your Story | Your Way > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 I'm giving just one capsul of gammaE 400 iu. I am poking it and squeezing it in the lemonaide with the other stuff. These capsuls are not as easy to squeeze as nordic naturals, but it does get in there. Mandy Knapp Creative Memories Unit Leader (847) 245-4133 (224) 577-8304 www.mycmsite.com/mandyknapp Your Life | Your Story | Your Way Re: [ ] Re: Vitamin E What dose of Vit E are you giving along with the fish oil? " claudia.morris " <claudia.morris@...> wrote: We saw changes within 48 hours on vit E. (We saw improvement on fish oil too, but nothing like this). At first I also thought it was wishful thinking...I so wanted to be right about this. But over the course of the next week and then weeks - he just blew us away. Within a week it was so obvious that we had a different child on our hands - and the OT called to see what was up, since he could now do things with ease we had worked months on with little progress. Enjoy the ride. - > I have had Gavin (my 3yo apraxic son) on 2 Omega 3-6-9 and 1 EPA per day for about a month. I have noticed improvements in his vocalizations. He still has very few words, but is making sounds and actually trying to communicate with me by showing me what he wants to get his point across. I was going to increase the fish oil starting on Friday, but then decided to give Vitamin E a try. I was at the grocery store, of all places, and just happened to go through the pharmacy when I thought I would look for natural vitamin E. I found one that was natural, checked the label, and it was d-alpha and not dl-alpha so I got it. It also happened to be 50% off! WOO HOO! > > Now I am pretty sure this isn't wishful thinking. I just started him on it yesterday evening. Today, he showed me that he needed to use the toilet (a first). He put his finger over his lips to tell me to " shh " because his toy kitty was sleeping. He asked me for more " yum yums " (children's dha...he loves them, so why stop when they don't seem to be hurting anything). He asked to go " ou " which I'm guessing means out since he's never tried to express outside. He came up to me and very clearly said, " HI! " and then held up three fingers and said " me " . He said " ba " for bath as I am typing this message! Is it a coincidence? Is it the fish oils just now kicking in? I have decreased the trans fats in all of our diets recently. Is that the key? I don't know, but whatever it is, it's working! I'm hoping to have more to report in the next few days. > > Mandy Knapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Michele, I starrted to give my son 2 gel caps a day (200 IU of the d-alpha and d-gamma) for a total of 400 IU's a day. He is almost 5 and weighs about 41 lbs. I've not witnessesd any side effects. Myra " michelewasikowski " <michelewasikowski@ .com> cc: Sent by: Subject: [ ] Vitamin E @yaho ogroups.com 09/16/2006 08:12 PM Please respond to I have been seeing a lot of subject lines lately in this group regarding Vitamin E. Unfortunately, I did not get a chance to read many, except a few today that show it has excellent benefits. I am always ready to try something new with my son, but I wanted to know how much to give a 45 pound almost 6 year old. Also have there been any negative side effects? Like diaherra? Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Michele, I starrted to give my son 2 gel caps a day (200 IU of the d-alpha and d-gamma) for a total of 400 IU's a day. He is almost 5 and weighs about 41 lbs. I've not witnessesd any side effects. Myra " michelewasikowski " <michelewasikowski@ .com> cc: Sent by: Subject: [ ] Vitamin E @yaho ogroups.com 09/16/2006 08:12 PM Please respond to I have been seeing a lot of subject lines lately in this group regarding Vitamin E. Unfortunately, I did not get a chance to read many, except a few today that show it has excellent benefits. I am always ready to try something new with my son, but I wanted to know how much to give a 45 pound almost 6 year old. Also have there been any negative side effects? Like diaherra? Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 I'll be interested to know what you find out. I've chosen to not supplement with Vit. E. Somewhere, some time ago I read that you have to be careful with it. On 10/6/06, momstime4now <momstime4now@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Having worked many years in a hospital I know how dangerous seemingly > harmless supplements can be so when I saw all the info on Vitamin E I > decided to talk to a couple of Pharmacists. Both of them strongly > recommended not giving it to my six year old. They felt it could > actually be harmful for children that young. I will be trying to find > out more info but did want to caution others that they may want to > look into it further as well before they give it to a child. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 I recommend checking out the NIH website. It's a government site, so the info in it is very mainstream and conservative (I don't mean that in the political sense, just in the sense of being careful). I read through the vitamin E info there when I was considering whether to supplement my 2 yr old. It actually gives information about safe levels for babies, children and pregnant women, and it mentions studies that raised safety concerns about E but states that the studies were faulty and have been criticized. It's possible the folks who are concerned about E (or the old articles you might have read) were thinking of/based on those particular studies. I think it's a good idea to do as much research as you can and to feel comfortable with your decision, whatever it is. Just thought this resource might be helpful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having worked many years in a hospital I know how dangerous seemingly > > harmless supplements can be so when I saw all the info on Vitamin E I > > decided to talk to a couple of Pharmacists. Both of them strongly > > recommended not giving it to my six year old. They felt it could > > actually be harmful for children that young. I will be trying to find > > out more info but did want to caution others that they may want to > > look into it further as well before they give it to a child. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Medical professionals (no offense, !) tend to be sceptical of supplements - they are taught much more about addressing disease with medications than preventing problems with supplements and natural approaches. There is a huge gulf (for most vitamins) between the DV (which is the amount assumed to prevent defiency diseases like scurvy with vit C) and amounts that cause toxicity. I encourage you all to do your own research and weigh the potential benefit of vitamin E against the risk (which at such a low dose, I'm not sure of). You can always have periodic blood tests to check levels if you are concerned. Witholding a vitamin in which your child is deficient is harmful. > > Having worked many years in a hospital I know how dangerous seemingly > harmless supplements can be so when I saw all the info on Vitamin E I > decided to talk to a couple of Pharmacists. Both of them strongly > recommended not giving it to my six year old. They felt it could > actually be harmful for children that young. I will be trying to find > out more info but did want to caution others that they may want to > look into it further as well before they give it to a child. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having worked many years in a hospital I know how dangerous seemingly > > harmless supplements can be so when I saw all the info on Vitamin E I > > decided to talk to a couple of Pharmacists. Both of them strongly > > recommended not giving it to my six year old. They felt it could > > actually be harmful for children that young. I will be trying to find > > out more info but did want to caution others that they may want to > > look into it further as well before they give it to a child. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having worked many years in a hospital I know how dangerous > seemingly > > > harmless supplements can be so when I saw all the info on > Vitamin E I > > > decided to talk to a couple of Pharmacists. Both of them > strongly > > > recommended not giving it to my six year old. They felt it could > > > actually be harmful for children that young. I will be trying > to find > > > out more info but did want to caution others that they may want > to > > > look into it further as well before they give it to a child. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 I'm not sure if this is yet a question anyone has thought of the answer to, but why do you suppose we all of a sudden have a rising group of children with these deficiency issues? I mean with fish/omega 3s and all -it's easier to understand. They are lacking in diets today -especially children's diets. On top of the fact it's mostly MIA from the diet -whatever measly amount most consume is compromised by the " bad " fats -the saturated and transfatty acids. But E I find confusing because it's in whole grains such as wheat and oats and egg yolks...and the number one kid staple -peanut butter! Clearly if it ends up that the majority of apraxic or apraxic type children respond to E the way they have to the fish oil...what is creating the deficiency? Why is " apraxia " on the rise? Diet? Environmental? Viral? Genetic? Of course I still lean towards believing that whatever is causing this is triggered by environmental issues I suspect it's more than one culprit. Most today fixate on mainly either lead or mercury. While I wouldn't want to expose my children to either of the above -I still wonder about phenol mixed with some of the other toxins around today like the Polychlorinated Biphenyls/PCBs. There's a few references that PCBs 'cause' a vitamin E deficiency. " PDF] Effect of simultaneous administration of polychlorinated biphenyls ... - 8:36pmFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat (3) PCB causes a nutritional deficiency, such as Vitamin E deficiency www.springerlink.com/index/U22VGQ767N303318.pdf " But when I clicked on the link - I was not able to read the entire article - I'm sure you could. Here's one I did find. http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=921166 Around where we used to live if PCBs didn't cause this...what about: " phenol, cadmium, chromium and lead " (and PCBs too) http://www.cherab.org/news/Save.html I know that having clinical studies to validate what we are seeing as a group with our own children will help treat the rest of the children (in another group for example) -but I still want to find the cause so we can stop this from happening in the first place. Besides -as I wrote in the link below -I see our children as the canaries in the coal mine -if there are lots of " apraxic " children around you there are probably more with cancer etc. -and you probably need to be on fish oil too. -vitamin E too? (I typically take whatever Tanner does -so yes I too am now on vitamin E!) ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having worked many years in a hospital I know how dangerous > seemingly > > > harmless supplements can be so when I saw all the info on > Vitamin E I > > > decided to talk to a couple of Pharmacists. Both of them > strongly > > > recommended not giving it to my six year old. They felt it could > > > actually be harmful for children that young. I will be trying > to find > > > out more info but did want to caution others that they may want > to > > > look into it further as well before they give it to a child. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Please don't forget the other " condition " that is on the rise - food allergies. Not just intolerance to casein and gluten - peanut butter is MIA from my son's diet because he is allergic to peanuts (also suspected apraxia and has SI). So there is a whole new generation of children unable to eat many of the Omega/Vit E-containing foods that you mention below (eggs, wheat, nuts, soy, etc). Growing up in the 1970's-1980's, I can't remember one classmate that had any food allergies at all, but now chances are that any given classroom will have at least one child with a serious food allergy. > > I'm not sure if this is yet a question anyone has thought of > the answer to, but why do you suppose we all of a sudden have a > rising group of children with these deficiency issues? > > I mean with fish/omega 3s and all -it's easier to understand. They are > lacking in diets today -especially children's diets. On top of the > fact it's mostly MIA from the diet -whatever measly amount most consume > is compromised by the " bad " fats -the saturated and transfatty acids. > > But E I find confusing because it's in whole grains such as > wheat and oats and egg yolks...and the number one kid staple -peanut > butter! > > Clearly if it ends up that the majority of apraxic or apraxic > type children respond to E the way they have to the fish oil...what > is creating the deficiency? Why is " apraxia " on the rise? Diet? > Environmental? Viral? Genetic? > > Of course I still lean towards believing that whatever is causing > this is triggered by environmental issues > I suspect it's more than one culprit. Most today fixate on mainly > either lead or mercury. While I wouldn't want to expose my children > to either of the above -I still wonder about phenol mixed with some > of the other toxins around today like the Polychlorinated > Biphenyls/PCBs. > > There's a few references that PCBs 'cause' a vitamin E deficiency. > " PDF] Effect of simultaneous administration of polychlorinated > biphenyls ... - 8:36pmFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat > (3) PCB causes a nutritional deficiency, such as Vitamin E > deficiency > www.springerlink.com/index/U22VGQ767N303318.pdf " > But when I clicked on the link - I was not able to read the entire > article - I'm sure you could. Here's one I did find. > http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=921166 > > Around where we used to live if PCBs didn't cause this...what about: > " phenol, cadmium, chromium and lead " (and PCBs too) > http://www.cherab.org/news/Save.html > > I know that having clinical studies to validate what we are seeing > as a group with our own children will help treat the rest of the > children (in another group for example) -but I still want to find > the cause so we can stop this from happening in the first place. > Besides -as I wrote in the link below -I see our children as the > canaries in the coal mine -if there are lots of " apraxic " children > around you there are probably more with cancer etc. -and you > probably need to be on fish oil too. -vitamin E too? (I > typically take whatever Tanner does -so yes I too am now on vitamin > E!) > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I'm not sure if this is yet a question anyone has thought of the answer to, but why do you suppose we all of a sudden have a rising group of children with these deficiency issues? I mean with fish/omega 3s and all -it's easier to understand. They are lacking in diets today -especially children's diets. On top of the fact it's mostly MIA from the diet -whatever measly amount most consume is compromised by the " bad " fats -the saturated and transfatty acids. But E I find confusing because it's in whole grains such as wheat and oats and egg yolks...and the number one kid staple -peanut butter! Clearly if it ends up that the majority of apraxic or apraxic type children respond to E the way they have to the fish oil...what is creating the deficiency? Why is " apraxia " on the rise? Diet? Environmental? Viral? Genetic? Of course I still lean towards believing that whatever is causing this is triggered by environmental issues I suspect it's more than one culprit. Most today fixate on mainly either lead or mercury. While I wouldn't want to expose my children to either of the above -I still wonder about phenol mixed with some of the other toxins around today like the Polychlorinated Biphenyls/PCBs. There's a few references that PCBs 'cause' a vitamin E deficiency. " PDF] Effect of simultaneous administration of polychlorinated biphenyls ... - 8:36pmFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat (3) PCB causes a nutritional deficiency, such as Vitamin E deficiency www.springerlink.com/index/U22VGQ767N303318.pdf " But when I clicked on the link - I was not able to read the entire article - I'm sure you could. Here's one I did find. http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=921166 Around where we used to live if PCBs didn't cause this...what about: " phenol, cadmium, chromium and lead " (and PCBs too) http://www.cherab.org/news/Save.html I know that having clinical studies to validate what we are seeing as a group with our own children will help treat the rest of the children (in another group for example) -but I still want to find the cause so we can stop this from happening in the first place. Besides -as I wrote in the link below -I see our children as the canaries in the coal mine -if there are lots of " apraxic " children around you there are probably more with cancer etc. -and you probably need to be on fish oil too. -vitamin E too? (I typically take whatever Tanner does -so yes I too am now on vitamin E!) ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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