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Thanks for the welcome.

My middle of nowhere is in NW Oklahoma. And I do realize there's places

a lot more in the middle of no where (except I lived most of my life in a

major city with everything at my fingertips). Anyway, OKC is about 1-1/2

hours away, Tulsa is 2-1/2 - 3 hours away. Either of those places should

have good sources once I locate them but it's not easy for me to get to

either place often......for staples, that would be fine. I just don't know

what to do about perishables.

Rest of the family are not trying to eat by their blood type so at least

I only have to worry about the one. But I do need to keep it as simple as I

can without changing their eating habits much - they are meat, bread, potato

people. My idea is to fix whatever meat, add other good vegetables & let

them have their potatoes & bread. Hopefully, that will work without making

2 separate meals all the time.

My N.D. (in Tulsa) said to ot necessarily worry about everything in the

book. To simplify, he said cut out wheat, corn and dairy. The corn and

dairy are fairly easily do-able for me, I think. It's the wheat I'm

struggling with. If I remember correctly from what I read a long time ago,

the wheat would be the most important thing to cut out for weight loss.

While that's not the #1 reason I'm trying this (arthritis type pain is #1),

the weight is definitely an issue.

So I guess part of the tips I need are to work around the wheat issue.

We're a farming family & in summer especially, our meals end up being

sandwiches. Also it seems like most of the labels I look at have wheat,

corn syrup or vinegar - all of which we're supposed to avoid, right?

Whatever ideas anyone can get me will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Welcome to the group. We are glad to have you.

Do you mind me asking where your middle of no where is. I live in what

I felt for a long time was a middle of nowhere. I live in the country in SE

Oklahoma, close to a town called Idabel. My best sources of shopping are an

hour away, and food in both Paris, TX and Idabel, OK has greatly improved

over the past couple of years.

Are all of your family O's? Are they all going along with this way of

eating? Answers to these questions will help us to help you.

Dr. D in his first book, Eat Right 4 Your Type suggested for O's to take

the diet one item at a time. Your body goes through a slower cleansing and

changing that way and you aren't so easily discouraged right at the first.

I'd take one of the types of foods that is an avoid and cut it out one week.

Remember you can cut out potatoes and still eat sweet potatoes. You don't

have to do with put a food group entirely, just learn where to get the

substitutes in many instances. It is also possible that a Health Food store

will carry what you can't find in the grocery store or they can order it for

you. If not, there may be some things you can order online. Take it a step

at a time and ask us any questions you would like. Many of us have been here

a while and don't mind giving help. After all we were there once oursleves.

New to group

Hi. I'm new to the group & new to the diet. What we're supposed to eat

is

almost the exact opposite of what my family usually eat so am afraid I'm

finding this overwhelming. The other part of the problem is that I live

in

the middle of nowhere & don't have easy access to good food sources.

Does

anyone have any tips or ideas to help me get started?

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I get most of my perishables from SuperWal-Mart. That is not all organic, but

they have started carrying some organic vegetables. You also might check to see

if there are any good health food stores in the surrounding towns. I'd go to

.com and Yellow Pages, put in the name of near by larger towns and then try

health Food Stores, organic foods, or other listings that come to mind to find

them. After you click on the map, you can put in your own address and get

driving directions. You might find something much closer than that 1 1/2 hour or

2 1/2 hour drive. You might also check the local famer's market for fresh

perishables. Summer time is a good time for that. I fully understand the

frustration of not having everything available. I lived in or close to

Independence, Mo for 18 years. There was a Co-op within 3miles, and a Health

Food store within 7. Now I go to Paris, TX, 1 hour away, Texarkana, TX, 90

minutes away, or order from the Ozark Co-op. See if these suggestions help. The

HFS may carry or can get Ezekial Bread, rice crackers, Manna Bread, rye

crackers. Check www.ozarkcoop.com to see if they have a delivery route anywhere

near you.

Love and peace,

New to group

Hi. I'm new to the group & new to the diet. What we're supposed to eat

is

almost the exact opposite of what my family usually eat so am afraid I'm

finding this overwhelming. The other part of the problem is that I live

in

the middle of nowhere & don't have easy access to good food sources.

Does

anyone have any tips or ideas to help me get started?

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SuperCenter is a good idea. Still about 60 miles away but at least do-able.

The closest health food store I've been able to find so far is about 50

miles away. It mainly carries supplements & some of the dry stuff - no

perishables. The next closest is about 70 miles in the opposite direction.

Farmer's markets could be good. There's one in the same town as the closest

health food store. It's just so much fun living 50 miles from ANYTHING! :)

We keep coming up with more in common! Same state for our middle of nowhere!

And I lived in Kansas City, MO for over 30 years! What brought you to OK?

My hubby's from here so it was a move back home for him.

Thanks for the info on the coop....I've been wanting to try to find one of

those. Surely they exist somewhere that I could get from them.

Think some of the recent messages (about the diet driving someone crazy) had

some good ideas for me, too - I like food I can grab and go.

Thanks again for your help.

Re: New to group

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I get most of my perishables from SuperWal-Mart. That is not all organic,

but they have started carrying some organic vegetables. You also might check

to see if there are any good health food stores in the surrounding towns.

I'd go to .com and Yellow Pages, put in the name of near by larger

towns and then try health Food Stores, organic foods, or other listings that

come to mind to find them. After you click on the map, you can put in your

own address and get driving directions. You might find something much closer

than that 1 1/2 hour or 2 1/2 hour drive. You might also check the local

famer's market for fresh perishables. Summer time is a good time for that. I

fully understand the frustration of not having everything available. I lived

in or close to Independence, Mo for 18 years. There was a Co-op within

3miles, and a Health Food store within 7. Now I go to Paris, TX, 1 hour

away, Texarkana, TX, 90 minutes away, or order from the Ozark Co-op. See if

these suggestions help. The HFS may carry or can get Ezekial Bread, rice

crackers, Manna Bread, rye crackers. Check www.ozarkcoop.com to see if they

have a delivery route anywhere near you.

Love and peace,

New to group

Hi. I'm new to the group & new to the diet. What we're supposed to

eat

is

almost the exact opposite of what my family usually eat so am afraid

I'm

finding this overwhelming. The other part of the problem is that I

live

in

the middle of nowhere & don't have easy access to good food sources.

Does

anyone have any tips or ideas to help me get started?

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My late father-in-law and his late wife had moved over here from Amarillo and

NeraVisa NM 16 years ago. 6 years ago my husband took early retirement and we

moved here to take care of them. She was 90 then and he was 85. Yes, we do have

a lot in common. Family brought us here also. I always am looking for good ideas

and recipes. If you are needing recipes, we have some good ones in the files

here. Just click on files. I belong to Cook Right 4 Your Type, which is recipe

sharing. O day is Thursday. You might want to check it out. Have you read Eat

Right 4 Your Type or Cook Right 4 Your Type? Cook Right has recipes in it that

help. Also, if you go to Recibase at www.dadamo.com, there are about 300 recipes

and they are marked for blood type. Hope this will help also. When you are

checking out the co-op, ask for them to send you a free copy of their Market

News and Price Guide. The Market News will have the Routes and you can e-mail

them to find out if they have a group near you and who to contact for it.

New to group

Hi. I'm new to the group & new to the diet. What we're supposed to

eat

is

almost the exact opposite of what my family usually eat so am afraid

I'm

finding this overwhelming. The other part of the problem is that I

live

in

the middle of nowhere & don't have easy access to good food sources.

Does

anyone have any tips or ideas to help me get started?

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Dear JD,

I also live in the Phoenix area but I was born and

raised here. I have had a very similiar past as you.

I recently had a polypectomy by Dr. Dyer. This was my

third one and out of all of them ( 3 different

doctors) I think he is the best. If you are in need

of a great ENT I could give you his number. In the

mean time I have found that taking all my meds

regularly and staying away from alcohol and smoke has

improved my symptoms significantly. Also nasal

irregations with salt and water helps alot as well. I

was diagnosed 10 years ago at the age of 15 so I have

tried just about everything.

a

--- jdnn20022002 <jdnn@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am new to the group and so glad I found this

> group. I was

> beginning to think I was the only person in the

> world that had this

> strange ailment.

>

> About a year and a half ago I had my first severe

> asthma attack. I

> never had asthma before, (maybe a little wheezing

> here and there but

> attributed that to the fact that I smoked in years

> past) and I seemed

> to develop this strange, dry cough after a flu-like,

> upper

> respiratory illness. I kept waiting for this cough

> to go away, but

> it never did. I would lie down at night to go to

> sleep, and it would

> start, and I could not sleep except with a bunch of

> pillows to

> elevate my head. My nose would run and run. I

> would take Claritin

> and that helped a little. Finally I went to the

> doctor, and she

> thought I had asthma and gave me an inhaler which

> sometimes helped

> (except on the day of my big attack). I had a

> headache that day and

> took an Anacin. At the time, I didn't know it has

> aspirin in it. I

> always buy the kind without aspirin, but just pulled

> this out of my

> purse and took it. Within an hour I was coughing

> really bad and

> wheezing really bad. My inhaler did not work. It

> was Proventil at

> that time. Hubby drove me to the emergency room (10

> minute ride). I

> didn't think I would make it. We got there, and

> they wanted to

> intubate me..I could hardly breathe, but I managed

> to tell them.. " no

> way. " Three breathing treatments later and IVs of

> Solu-Medrol, and I

> was doing better. They kept me for three days.

> (The intubation

> thing was because of me being a medical

> transcriptionist..otherwise I

> wouldn't have even known what it was).

>

> Anyway to make a long story a little shorter, I got

> out of the

> hospital and was put on medications, etc..and did

> okay for a while...

> (because of the tapering dose of steroids I am

> sure)...time went on

> and my nasal symptoms got worse..stuffy nose, runny

> nose, really bad

> congestion. I was taking Allegra-D and trying to

> use Flonase but

> every time I used it, it burned and made me sneeze

> and brought on all

> the symtoms again..so I quit with that..Living in

> Oklahoma I blamed

> it on all my allergies, etc.

>

> Pulmonary function tests showed that I was in good

> shape..but the

> nasal symtoms continued to get worse.

>

> I left Okla. and came to Arizona, Phoenix area, and

> didn't get any

> better. I consulted an ENT who said I had nasal

> polyps, sent me for

> a CT scan, and then said I needed surgery. I

> figured I would

> consider it since he was talking polyps in my nose.

> No luck. This

> guy says he woudn't even consider doing just a

> polypectomy of the

> nose, he wants to do the whole thing including the

> sinuses..and then

> said they would probably come back. Meantime,

> another Medrol Dosepak

> and Nasonex, and symptoms inmproved. Oh, I forgot

> to mention that I

> lost my sense of smell and taste before I left Okla.

> After the

> Medrol Dosepak I regained my smell and taste for

> about three

> weeks..then symptoms started back up again (I had

> stopped the Nasonex

> thinking I was cured..Ha!) I have recently gone back

> on the Nasonex

> and symptoms are slowly subsiding again and am

> keeping my fingers

> crossed that I will regain my sense of smell and

> taste again.

>

> I will read all the posts and maybe I will find

> something that I

> don't already know about that can help..

>

> JD

>

>

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Thanks a..it sounds like you really like Dr. Dyer. I would like

a second opinion, and I have already had a CT scan. I don't know if

you are familiar with Dr. Bassett (ENT), he has offices in sdale

and Sun City West. He is the ENT I went to that seemed to only know

one word, " surgery. " I would not have surgery, as everyone says the

polyps come right back...Does Dr. Dyer push surgery or is he willing

to treat with nasal steroids, etc..?

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I am new to the group and so glad I found this

> > group. I was

> > beginning to think I was the only person in the

> > world that had this

> > strange ailment.

> >

> > About a year and a half ago I had my first severe

> > asthma attack. I

> > never had asthma before, (maybe a little wheezing

> > here and there but

> > attributed that to the fact that I smoked in years

> > past) and I seemed

> > to develop this strange, dry cough after a flu-like,

> > upper

> > respiratory illness. I kept waiting for this cough

> > to go away, but

> > it never did. I would lie down at night to go to

> > sleep, and it would

> > start, and I could not sleep except with a bunch of

> > pillows to

> > elevate my head. My nose would run and run. I

> > would take Claritin

> > and that helped a little. Finally I went to the

> > doctor, and she

> > thought I had asthma and gave me an inhaler which

> > sometimes helped

> > (except on the day of my big attack). I had a

> > headache that day and

> > took an Anacin. At the time, I didn't know it has

> > aspirin in it. I

> > always buy the kind without aspirin, but just pulled

> > this out of my

> > purse and took it. Within an hour I was coughing

> > really bad and

> > wheezing really bad. My inhaler did not work. It

> > was Proventil at

> > that time. Hubby drove me to the emergency room (10

> > minute ride). I

> > didn't think I would make it. We got there, and

> > they wanted to

> > intubate me..I could hardly breathe, but I managed

> > to tell them.. " no

> > way. " Three breathing treatments later and IVs of

> > Solu-Medrol, and I

> > was doing better. They kept me for three days.

> > (The intubation

> > thing was because of me being a medical

> > transcriptionist..otherwise I

> > wouldn't have even known what it was).

> >

> > Anyway to make a long story a little shorter, I got

> > out of the

> > hospital and was put on medications, etc..and did

> > okay for a while...

> > (because of the tapering dose of steroids I am

> > sure)...time went on

> > and my nasal symptoms got worse..stuffy nose, runny

> > nose, really bad

> > congestion. I was taking Allegra-D and trying to

> > use Flonase but

> > every time I used it, it burned and made me sneeze

> > and brought on all

> > the symtoms again..so I quit with that..Living in

> > Oklahoma I blamed

> > it on all my allergies, etc.

> >

> > Pulmonary function tests showed that I was in good

> > shape..but the

> > nasal symtoms continued to get worse.

> >

> > I left Okla. and came to Arizona, Phoenix area, and

> > didn't get any

> > better. I consulted an ENT who said I had nasal

> > polyps, sent me for

> > a CT scan, and then said I needed surgery. I

> > figured I would

> > consider it since he was talking polyps in my nose.

> > No luck. This

> > guy says he woudn't even consider doing just a

> > polypectomy of the

> > nose, he wants to do the whole thing including the

> > sinuses..and then

> > said they would probably come back. Meantime,

> > another Medrol Dosepak

> > and Nasonex, and symptoms inmproved. Oh, I forgot

> > to mention that I

> > lost my sense of smell and taste before I left Okla.

> > After the

> > Medrol Dosepak I regained my smell and taste for

> > about three

> > weeks..then symptoms started back up again (I had

> > stopped the Nasonex

> > thinking I was cured..Ha!) I have recently gone back

> > on the Nasonex

> > and symptoms are slowly subsiding again and am

> > keeping my fingers

> > crossed that I will regain my sense of smell and

> > taste again.

> >

> > I will read all the posts and maybe I will find

> > something that I

> > don't already know about that can help..

> >

> > JD

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Welcome Tammy. Sue gives you great tips to get started. I use the foodmover

as a tool. I love it for my water windows if anything. I am doing less

calories and watching my carbs. This can be done with foodmover OR just a

journal. I suggest you get a journal if anything. GET notebook it is

cheaper.

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> Hello my name is Tammy.

Hi, Tammy. As you see, things haave been pretty quiet, but that happens a

lot to any list during the summer months.

I have

> over 100 lbs. to lose and just can't seem to get started.

Looks like you're in the right place.

>Does

> everyone follow the plan?

Not at all. In fact, I think most people here *don't* use any of his plans

right now.

One of the first things you should do is start drinking more plain old

water, the " experts " recommend a half ounce for every pound of body weight.

I weight 260 (ouch) so I should drink 130 ounces of water a day, just to

keep my body hydrated. In this heat and when I exercise we should drink

more. Once you start drinking what your body needs, you'll feel better and,

because you have all that water sloshing around inside, you'll probably eat

less. If you think you feel hungry for a snack, or feel droopy and want to

grab a cookie for a quick pick-me-up in mid-afternoon, grab a glass of cold

water instead and see how you feel. Many times that's what our bodies are

looking for.

Then go through your house and get rid of all the junk foods - the cookies,

candy, cakes, ice cream. If it's not there, you can't eat it. Next grocery

store or greengrocer trip, stock up on fresh fruits and veggies and have one

of them for a snack or dessert.

Make small changes in your meals. Instead of using white rice, which has no

fiber and very few nutrients, switch to brown rice or some other whole

grain. It's healthier and you'll feel fuller on less. Cut down your serving

sizes - remember, one portion of a grain or pasta is only a half cup! Switch

from squishy white breads to whole grain breads, too, for the same reasons.

Try planning your main meals a week in advance. This way you can shop for

them ahead of time so there's no excuse for last minute decisions and choose

to eat out at the golden arches instead of sitting down to a low cal meal at

home.

Start to increase the amount you move around. Try walking a little more each

day by parking the car further away from the store or taking the stairs

instead of the elevator when going down a flight or 2 of stairs.

Take baby steps in the beginning. Each little change you make will be an

improvement to your health. Once you get the ball rolling you'll see what

changes you'll be comfortable with. Remember, this won't be a short term

thing but changes for the rest of your life.

Don't forget to look over the files and bookmarks on the list's web site and

maybe look over the list's back messages for other advice and some recipes

to get you started.

Sue in NJ

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Don't mean to butt in here, but you cannot get rid of polyps with steroids.

And you most certainly do not want to be on steroids for a long time. They

will reduce symptoms, but will not get rid of the polyps. I would suggest

finding the best surgeon you can and make sure they use the " Instatrack "

system to get out as many of the polyps as possible.

I waited too long to have a surgery, and now have a mucus sac in my frontal

sinus that will need to be removed going in through my forehead, cutting

through my skull. Not pretty.

Good luck

Kim

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 04:03:58 -0000 jdnn20022002 <jdnn@...> wrote:

Thanks a..it sounds like you really like Dr. Dyer. I would like

a second opinion, and I have already had a CT scan. I don't know if

you are familiar with Dr. Bassett (ENT), he has offices in sdale

and Sun City West. He is the ENT I went to that seemed to only know

one word, " surgery. " I would not have surgery, as everyone says the

polyps come right back...Does Dr. Dyer push surgery or is he willing

to treat with nasal steroids, etc..?

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I am new to the group and so glad I found this

> > group. I was

> > beginning to think I was the only person in the

> > world that had this

> > strange ailment.

> >

> > About a year and a half ago I had my first severe

> > asthma attack. I

> > never had asthma before, (maybe a little wheezing

> > here and there but

> > attributed that to the fact that I smoked in years

> > past) and I seemed

> > to develop this strange, dry cough after a flu-like,

> > upper

> > respiratory illness. I kept waiting for this cough

> > to go away, but

> > it never did. I would lie down at night to go to

> > sleep, and it would

> > start, and I could not sleep except with a bunch of

> > pillows to

> > elevate my head. My nose would run and run. I

> > would take Claritin

> > and that helped a little. Finally I went to the

> > doctor, and she

> > thought I had asthma and gave me an inhaler which

> > sometimes helped

> > (except on the day of my big attack). I had a

> > headache that day and

> > took an Anacin. At the time, I didn't know it has

> > aspirin in it. I

> > always buy the kind without aspirin, but just pulled

> > this out of my

> > purse and took it. Within an hour I was coughing

> > really bad and

> > wheezing really bad. My inhaler did not work. It

> > was Proventil at

> > that time. Hubby drove me to the emergency room (10

> > minute ride). I

> > didn't think I would make it. We got there, and

> > they wanted to

> > intubate me..I could hardly breathe, but I managed

> > to tell them.. " no

> > way. " Three breathing treatments later and IVs of

> > Solu-Medrol, and I

> > was doing better. They kept me for three days.

> > (The intubation

> > thing was because of me being a medical

> > transcriptionist..otherwise I

> > wouldn't have even known what it was).

> >

> > Anyway to make a long story a little shorter, I got

> > out of the

> > hospital and was put on medications, etc..and did

> > okay for a while...

> > (because of the tapering dose of steroids I am

> > sure)...time went on

> > and my nasal symptoms got worse..stuffy nose, runny

> > nose, really bad

> > congestion. I was taking Allegra-D and trying to

> > use Flonase but

> > every time I used it, it burned and made me sneeze

> > and brought on all

> > the symtoms again..so I quit with that..Living in

> > Oklahoma I blamed

> > it on all my allergies, etc.

> >

> > Pulmonary function tests showed that I was in good

> > shape..but the

> > nasal symtoms continued to get worse.

> >

> > I left Okla. and came to Arizona, Phoenix area, and

> > didn't get any

> > better. I consulted an ENT who said I had nasal

> > polyps, sent me for

> > a CT scan, and then said I needed surgery. I

> > figured I would

> > consider it since he was talking polyps in my nose.

> > No luck. This

> > guy says he woudn't even consider doing just a

> > polypectomy of the

> > nose, he wants to do the whole thing including the

> > sinuses..and then

> > said they would probably come back. Meantime,

> > another Medrol Dosepak

> > and Nasonex, and symptoms inmproved. Oh, I forgot

> > to mention that I

> > lost my sense of smell and taste before I left Okla.

> > After the

> > Medrol Dosepak I regained my smell and taste for

> > about three

> > weeks..then symptoms started back up again (I had

> > stopped the Nasonex

> > thinking I was cured..Ha!) I have recently gone back

> > on the Nasonex

> > and symptoms are slowly subsiding again and am

> > keeping my fingers

> > crossed that I will regain my sense of smell and

> > taste again.

> >

> > I will read all the posts and maybe I will find

> > something that I

> > don't already know about that can help..

> >

> > JD

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Welcome Tammy. I'm more of Zoner (Barry Sears) than anything else, but

presently I have to follow a dairy free and yeast free diet, so I am having

to adapt even that.

There is a nice core of ladies here to cheer you on if you lose a pound

or two or to encourage you if you don't! I'm sure you'll like it here.

I'm not getting to post much during the week right now because I am

working full-time teaching, but that will end next Tuesday and I will be

back to being more active. In the meantime, I am getting lots of exercise

trying to keep up with 20 15-16 year old students all day. :- )

Blessings and prayers,

n

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Welcome to the group. Your story sounds soooo familiar.

My polyps have actually gotten better, so says my ENT, but, I still don't

have my smell/taste back. I've decided not to do any surgery as long as I can

breathe through my nose, and that I'll jsut have to live without my smeller,

as no one can guarantee that even with surgery I would be able to smell. And

all the docs say the same thing, that the polyps always return.

But, seems we're all in this together, so good luck , and keep us posted!

Judy

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Hi Kim

Actually although steroids can't get rid of polyps, they can significantly

reduce their size, and therefore the obstructions that accompany then. I

know, as my CT scans show, I was on prednisone (7-day course) last October,

(actually could not breathe at all through nose) and now, just using Flonase

2xday and saline irrigation daily, my polyps have shrunk considerably. I have

no trouble breathing, although, I also have no sense of smell.

Of course you don't want to be on steriods long term, they can give you an

awesome jump start.

J

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Welcome, Tammy. I did follow the foodmover, but lately I have not followed

anything. I am getting back on it, but rather slowly.

Glad to have you at the group.

~~

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and Homeschooling Mama to

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> > Hello my name is Tammy.

Welcome aboard, Tammy.

> I have

> > over 100 lbs. to lose and just can't seem to get started.

As they say, all journeys start with the first step. You've already

started! See how easy that one was? The next one will be JUST as easy

if you keep focused on the goal and not the road!

> >Does

> > everyone follow the plan?

I have my own plan which I developed (and am still developing) via

trial and error. As I was diagnosed as a Type II Diabetic on July 1st

it will continue to be a work-in-progress as I figure out what I can

eat that will allow me to continue to lose weight without shooting my

blood sugar out the roof.

> Then go through your house and get rid of all the junk foods - the cookies,

> candy, cakes, ice cream. If it's not there, you can't eat it. Next grocery

> store or greengrocer trip, stock up on fresh fruits and veggies and have one

> of them for a snack or dessert.

>

I agreed with almost all of the suggestions that Sue made except this

one. For many people labeling foods as 'bad' or 'off program' or

whatnot will only serve to increase the desire to have them. This, in

turn, results in binging on them when you finally DO give in *AND*

feeling guilty for the binge which, often as not for those who find

comfort in food, results in ANOTHER binge!

I've found that by having SMALLER packages of things around that I know

I can have whenever I want makes me not want them so much. (IE, go to a

vending machine and buy a 6-cookie pack of Oreos and stash them in the

back of the pantry instead of a 1 lbs. bag)

Speaking of which, that's part of my recent good news! I bought a

package of chocolate-chip pecan sandies TWO WEEKS ago. The most I've

eaten in one day is 4 cookies. Usually I only eat 1-2 cookies a day,

and sometimes none. I've still got the same bag in the house! YEAH ME!

>

> Don't forget to look over the files and bookmarks on the list's web site and

maybe look over the list's back messages for other advice and some recipes to

get you started.

I highly, HIGHLY recommend fitday.com. There you can track food,

weight, and exercise as well as set up individual nutritional goals and

see how well you are meeting them both daily and over the course of

weeks or even months in order to get " the big picture. "

>

>

> Sue in NJ

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> Hello my name is Tammy. I joined this group a few weeks ago. I have

> over 100 lbs. to lose and just can't seem to get started. I thought

> this group might help to get me motivated to get up and go.

Welcome Tammy. I would suggest taking baby steps like start by drinking more

water each day until you drink 8 to 10 glasses a day. When you have the

water under control add something else...maybe work on your food or exercise.

Don't think that you have to do it ALL right in the beginning. I know you

can do this...there are lots of great success stories on this list. Let us

know if we can help.

Rae

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Hi, nice to meet you.

I am glad you joined the group, as I am about the same as you. I find the

group is very helpful, and I searched and searched and its the best one that

I could find out there in 3 days of searching.

You will find here that everyone has their own opinions. I struggle with

losing weight on a daily basis. I have highs and lows. I also am a worry

wort, so I post questions alot, because I dont really know anyone that is ow

like me, so I ask my buddies here. I am a social worker with 2 children

(ages 5 and 5 months) so I get on when I can! LOL.

I really like Sue, and she is very helpful in her suggestions and opinions.

I dont know if you know, but she used to be a nurse or still is???? BUT

the point is, I have a cousin that is an RN, and when she is not available,

I contact Sue or both of them for their valued opinions.

Nice to know you.

new to group

> Hello my name is Tammy. I joined this group a few weeks ago. I have

> over 100 lbs. to lose and just can't seem to get started. I thought

> this group might help to get me motivated to get up and go. Does

> everyone follow the plan? I do not have a food mover

> but, I do have a couple of his exercise tapes and had the deal-a-meal

> cards at one time.

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Thanks Kim..you can butt in anytime! Steroids will shrink the

polyps, but of course they will return just as they will return with

surgery. The steroid nasal sprays will sometimes shrink them. I

appreciate your input...I want to gather all the information I can

before deciding what to do..I also am aware of the risks of steroids,

and I know that they cannot be taken long term without serious

consequences. I have only had two short courses in 16 months (one

was for a severe asthma attack). I use Nasonex spray which seems to

be helping. I am in the medical field, and so I do proceed with

caution. I do appreciate your input..

JD

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > I am new to the group and so glad I found this

> > > group. I was

> > > beginning to think I was the only person in the

> > > world that had this

> > > strange ailment.

> > >

> > > About a year and a half ago I had my first severe

> > > asthma attack. I

> > > never had asthma before, (maybe a little wheezing

> > > here and there but

> > > attributed that to the fact that I smoked in years

> > > past) and I seemed

> > > to develop this strange, dry cough after a flu-like,

> > > upper

> > > respiratory illness. I kept waiting for this cough

> > > to go away, but

> > > it never did. I would lie down at night to go to

> > > sleep, and it would

> > > start, and I could not sleep except with a bunch of

> > > pillows to

> > > elevate my head. My nose would run and run. I

> > > would take Claritin

> > > and that helped a little. Finally I went to the

> > > doctor, and she

> > > thought I had asthma and gave me an inhaler which

> > > sometimes helped

> > > (except on the day of my big attack). I had a

> > > headache that day and

> > > took an Anacin. At the time, I didn't know it has

> > > aspirin in it. I

> > > always buy the kind without aspirin, but just pulled

> > > this out of my

> > > purse and took it. Within an hour I was coughing

> > > really bad and

> > > wheezing really bad. My inhaler did not work. It

> > > was Proventil at

> > > that time. Hubby drove me to the emergency room (10

> > > minute ride). I

> > > didn't think I would make it. We got there, and

> > > they wanted to

> > > intubate me..I could hardly breathe, but I managed

> > > to tell them.. " no

> > > way. " Three breathing treatments later and IVs of

> > > Solu-Medrol, and I

> > > was doing better. They kept me for three days.

> > > (The intubation

> > > thing was because of me being a medical

> > > transcriptionist..otherwise I

> > > wouldn't have even known what it was).

> > >

> > > Anyway to make a long story a little shorter, I got

> > > out of the

> > > hospital and was put on medications, etc..and did

> > > okay for a while...

> > > (because of the tapering dose of steroids I am

> > > sure)...time went on

> > > and my nasal symptoms got worse..stuffy nose, runny

> > > nose, really bad

> > > congestion. I was taking Allegra-D and trying to

> > > use Flonase but

> > > every time I used it, it burned and made me sneeze

> > > and brought on all

> > > the symtoms again..so I quit with that..Living in

> > > Oklahoma I blamed

> > > it on all my allergies, etc.

> > >

> > > Pulmonary function tests showed that I was in good

> > > shape..but the

> > > nasal symtoms continued to get worse.

> > >

> > > I left Okla. and came to Arizona, Phoenix area, and

> > > didn't get any

> > > better. I consulted an ENT who said I had nasal

> > > polyps, sent me for

> > > a CT scan, and then said I needed surgery. I

> > > figured I would

> > > consider it since he was talking polyps in my nose.

> > > No luck. This

> > > guy says he woudn't even consider doing just a

> > > polypectomy of the

> > > nose, he wants to do the whole thing including the

> > > sinuses..and then

> > > said they would probably come back. Meantime,

> > > another Medrol Dosepak

> > > and Nasonex, and symptoms inmproved. Oh, I forgot

> > > to mention that I

> > > lost my sense of smell and taste before I left Okla.

> > > After the

> > > Medrol Dosepak I regained my smell and taste for

> > > about three

> > > weeks..then symptoms started back up again (I had

> > > stopped the Nasonex

> > > thinking I was cured..Ha!) I have recently gone back

> > > on the Nasonex

> > > and symptoms are slowly subsiding again and am

> > > keeping my fingers

> > > crossed that I will regain my sense of smell and

> > > taste again.

> > >

> > > I will read all the posts and maybe I will find

> > > something that I

> > > don't already know about that can help..

> > >

> > > JD

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

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Thanks Judy..I am like you..as long as I can breathe a little through

my nose I will try other methods besides surgery because as you

stated, you go through all of that and the polyps come back

anyway..so what is the sense?? To have relief for a few weeks or

month or so? I will look for alternative methods until I exhaust

myself.. :)

JD

> Welcome to the group. Your story sounds soooo familiar.

> My polyps have actually gotten better, so says my ENT, but, I still

don't

> have my smell/taste back. I've decided not to do any surgery as

long as I can

> breathe through my nose, and that I'll jsut have to live without my

smeller,

> as no one can guarantee that even with surgery I would be able to

smell. And

> all the docs say the same thing, that the polyps always return.

> But, seems we're all in this together, so good luck , and keep us

posted!

> Judy

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> You will find here that everyone has their own opinions. I struggle with

> losing weight on a daily basis. I have highs and lows.

Most of us do. I know *I* do. :(

> I dont know if you know, but she used to be a nurse or still is????

My license is current, but I haven't worked in years. I hope to get a part

time job again in September, day shift only - something rare around here. I

fall asleep at 9pm as it is, I certainly can't hack 13 hour night shift, and

that's usually all that's available around here. :(

Sue in NJ

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Hi,

I take steroids (prednisone) about every 2-3 months just to "clear things out" and they are not nice. Back around 1994-1995 I was on them straight for almost 18 months at dosages of 30mg or more. That was terrible! Actually I think I am "allergic" to the steroids themselves so it is a catch 22. Now I do a "quick" 7-10 day dose and get off as quick as I can. Usually when I take them my hands and/or feet get itchy. Anyone else experience this?

I use Flonase and it does not help me at all. I tried Singular back when it first came out and it did not help. My Dr. just put me back on it last week to give it another try. Can't tell for sure yet but it seems to have helped a little. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Rob

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Thanks Kim..you can butt in anytime! Steroids will shrink the polyps, but of course they will return just as they will return with surgery. The steroid nasal sprays will sometimes shrink them. I appreciate your input...I want to gather all the information I can before deciding what to do..I also am aware of the risks of steroids, and I know that they cannot be taken long term without serious consequences. I have only had two short courses in 16 months (one was for a severe asthma attack). I use Nasonex spray which seems to be helping. I am in the medical field, and so I do proceed with caution. I do appreciate your input..JD> > > Hi everyone,> > > > > > I am new to the group and so glad I found this> > > group. I was > > > beginning to think I was the only person in the> > > world that had this > > > strange ailment. > > > > > > About a year and a half ago I had my first severe> > > asthma attack. I > > > never had asthma before, (maybe a little wheezing> > > here and there but > > > attributed that to the fact that I smoked in years> > > past) and I seemed > > > to develop this strange, dry cough after a flu-like,> > > upper > > > respiratory illness. I kept waiting for this cough> > > to go away, but > > > it never did. I would lie down at night to go to> > > sleep, and it would > > > start, and I could not sleep except with a bunch of> > > pillows to > > > elevate my head. My nose would run and run. I> > > would take Claritin > > > and that helped a little. Finally I went to the> > > doctor, and she > > > thought I had asthma and gave me an inhaler which> > > sometimes helped > > > (except on the day of my big attack). I had a> > > headache that day and > > > took an Anacin. At the time, I didn't know it has> > > aspirin in it. I > > > always buy the kind without aspirin, but just pulled> > > this out of my > > > purse and took it. Within an hour I was coughing> > > really bad and > > > wheezing really bad. My inhaler did not work. It> > > was Proventil at > > > that time. Hubby drove me to the emergency room (10> > > minute ride). I > > > didn't think I would make it. We got there, and> > > they wanted to > > > intubate me..I could hardly breathe, but I managed> > > to tell them.."no > > > way." Three breathing treatments later and IVs of> > > Solu-Medrol, and I > > > was doing better. They kept me for three days. > > > (The intubation > > > thing was because of me being a medical> > > transcriptionist..otherwise I > > > wouldn't have even known what it was).> > > > > > Anyway to make a long story a little shorter, I got> > > out of the > > > hospital and was put on medications, etc..and did> > > okay for a while...> > > (because of the tapering dose of steroids I am> > > sure)...time went on > > > and my nasal symptoms got worse..stuffy nose, runny> > > nose, really bad > > > congestion. I was taking Allegra-D and trying to> > > use Flonase but > > > every time I used it, it burned and made me sneeze> > > and brought on all > > > the symtoms again..so I quit with that..Living in> > > Oklahoma I blamed > > > it on all my allergies, etc. > > > > > > Pulmonary function tests showed that I was in good> > > shape..but the > > > nasal symtoms continued to get worse.> > > > > > I left Okla. and came to Arizona, Phoenix area, and> > > didn't get any > > > better. I consulted an ENT who said I had nasal> > > polyps, sent me for > > > a CT scan, and then said I needed surgery. I> > > figured I would > > > consider it since he was talking polyps in my nose. > > > No luck. This > > > guy says he woudn't even consider doing just a> > > polypectomy of the > > > nose, he wants to do the whole thing including the> > > sinuses..and then > > > said they would probably come back. Meantime,> > > another Medrol Dosepak > > > and Nasonex, and symptoms inmproved. Oh, I forgot> > > to mention that I > > > lost my sense of smell and taste before I left Okla.> > > After the > > > Medrol Dosepak I regained my smell and taste for> > > about three > > > weeks..then symptoms started back up again (I had> > > stopped the Nasonex > > > thinking I was cured..Ha!) I have recently gone back> > > on the Nasonex > > > and symptoms are slowly subsiding again and am> > > keeping my fingers > > > crossed that I will regain my sense of smell and> > > taste again. > > > > > > I will read all the posts and maybe I will find> > > something that I > > > don't already know about that can help.. > > > > > > JD> > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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OMG, I have had itching spells on steroid that I thought would make me crazy. It does not happen every time I take them. My asthma and my polyps have been pretty bad but none of my doctors has ever put me on such a long course of steroids ever. I have had a few shots. One back in May when I had bronchitis and was pretty sick. I was on IV steroids back last Sept.. when I was in the hospital with pneumonia. The longest stretch of steroids I ever did was for a month because my last GP was a quack. I had went to the emergency room and was given 40 mg. of prednisone for a few days to clear me up. My GP freaked at the dosage and to wean me off she cut me back very, very slowly over the course of a month. I gained 10 lbs. Recently my new GP said it is ok to take that dosage for a couple of days and wean off in about a week and a half.

Evie

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Thanks Kim..you can butt in anytime! Steroids will shrink the polyps, but of course they will return just as they will return with surgery. The steroid nasal sprays will sometimes shrink them. I appreciate your input...I want to gather all the information I can before deciding what to do..I also am aware of the risks of steroids, and I know that they cannot be taken long term without serious consequences. I have only had two short courses in 16 months (one was for a severe asthma attack). I use Nasonex spray which seems to be helping. I am in the medical field, and so I do proceed with caution. I do appreciate your input..JD> > > Hi everyone,> > > > > > I am new to the group and so glad I found this> > > group. I was > > > beginning to think I was the only person in the> > > world that had this > > > strange ailment. > > > > > > About a year and a half ago I had my first severe> > > asthma attack. I > > > never had asthma before, (maybe a little wheezing> > > here and there but > > > attributed that to the fact that I smoked in years> > > past) and I seemed > > > to develop this strange, dry cough after a flu-like,> > > upper > > > respiratory illness. I kept waiting for this cough> > > to go away, but > > > it never did. I would lie down at night to go to> > > sleep, and it would > > > start, and I could not sleep except with a bunch of> > > pillows to > > > elevate my head. My nose would run and run. I> > > would take Claritin > > > and that helped a little. Finally I went to the> > > doctor, and she > > > thought I had asthma and gave me an inhaler which> > > sometimes helped > > > (except on the day of my big attack). I had a> > > headache that day and > > > took an Anacin. At the time, I didn't know it has> > > aspirin in it. I > > > always buy the kind without aspirin, but just pulled> > > this out of my > > > purse and took it. Within an hour I was coughing> > > really bad and > > > wheezing really bad. My inhaler did not work. It> > > was Proventil at > > > that time. Hubby drove me to the emergency room (10> > > minute ride). I > > > didn't think I would make it. We got there, and> > > they wanted to > > > intubate me..I could hardly breathe, but I managed> > > to tell them.."no > > > way." Three breathing treatments later and IVs of> > > Solu-Medrol, and I > > > was doing better. They kept me for three days. > > > (The intubation > > > thing was because of me being a medical> > > transcriptionist..otherwise I > > > wouldn't have even known what it was).> > > > > > Anyway to make a long story a little shorter, I got> > > out of the > > > hospital and was put on medications, etc..and did> > > okay for a while...> > > (because of the tapering dose of steroids I am> > > sure)...time went on > > > and my nasal symptoms got worse..stuffy nose, runny> > > nose, really bad > > > congestion. I was taking Allegra-D and trying to> > > use Flonase but > > > every time I used it, it burned and made me sneeze> > > and brought on all > > > the symtoms again..so I quit with that..Living in> > > Oklahoma I blamed > > > it on all my allergies, etc. > > > > > > Pulmonary function tests showed that I was in good> > > shape..but the > > > nasal symtoms continued to get worse.> > > > > > I left Okla. and came to Arizona, Phoenix area, and> > > didn't get any > > > better. I consulted an ENT who said I had nasal> > > polyps, sent me for > > > a CT scan, and then said I needed surgery. I> > > figured I would > > > consider it since he was talking polyps in my nose. > > > No luck. This > > > guy says he woudn't even consider doing just a> > > polypectomy of the > > > nose, he wants to do the whole thing including the> > > sinuses..and then > > > said they would probably come back. Meantime,> > > another Medrol Dosepak > > > and Nasonex, and symptoms inmproved. Oh, I forgot> > > to mention that I > > > lost my sense of smell and taste before I left Okla.> > > After the > > > Medrol Dosepak I regained my smell and taste for> > > about three > > > weeks..then symptoms started back up again (I had> > > stopped the Nasonex > > > thinking I was cured..Ha!) I have recently gone back> > > on the Nasonex > > > and symptoms are slowly subsiding again and am> > > keeping my fingers > > > crossed that I will regain my sense of smell and> > > taste again. > > > > > > I will read all the posts and maybe I will find> > > something that I > > > don't already know about that can help.. > > > > > > JD> > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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But do the steroids reduce the size temporarily or permanently? I was under

the impression that once off the prednisone they would swell right back up in

time...and of course, keep growing.

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:53:59 EDT ster18@... wrote:

Hi Kim

Actually although steroids can't get rid of polyps, they can significantly

reduce their size, and therefore the obstructions that accompany then. I

know, as my CT scans show, I was on prednisone (7-day course) last October,

(actually could not breathe at all through nose) and now, just using Flonase

2xday and saline irrigation daily, my polyps have shrunk considerably. I have

no trouble breathing, although, I also have no sense of smell.

Of course you don't want to be on steriods long term, they can give you an

awesome jump start.

J

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Steroids reduce the size temporarily. Over time they will swell back up but it gives you a chance to "clean out" your nose to help reduce the risk of infection. My last sinus surgery didn't help my polyps (they were back in a few weeks) but it did clean up some underlying infections that the antibiotics could not. So even though the surgery didn't "fix" my polyp problem it was still necessary to get rid of the infection. Now my goal is to try not to get infected again!

Rob

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But do the steroids reduce the size temporarily or permanently? I was underthe impression that once off the prednisone they would swell right back up intime...and of course, keep growing. On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:53:59 EDT ster18@... wrote: Hi Kim Actually although steroids can't get rid of polyps, they can significantly reduce their size, and therefore the obstructions that accompany then. I know, as my CT scans show, I was on prednisone (7-day course) last October, (actually could not breathe at all through nose) and now, just using Flonase 2xday and saline irrigation daily, my polyps have shrunk considerably. I have no trouble breathing, although, I also have no sense of smell. Of course you don't want to be on steriods long term, they can give you an awesome jump start. J

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Same here, I needed surgery to clean out the mess in my sinuses....

Evie

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But do the steroids reduce the size temporarily or permanently? I was underthe impression that once off the prednisone they would swell right back up intime...and of course, keep growing. On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:53:59 EDT ster18@... wrote: Hi Kim Actually although steroids can't get rid of polyps, they can significantly reduce their size, and therefore the obstructions that accompany then. I know, as my CT scans show, I was on prednisone (7-day course) last October, (actually could not breathe at all through nose) and now, just using Flonase 2xday and saline irrigation daily, my polyps have shrunk considerably. I have no trouble breathing, although, I also have no sense of smell. Of course you don't want to be on steriods long term, they can give you an awesome jump start. J

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Kim, unfortunately steroids offer only a temporary reduction in the

inflammation, size of polyps, etc. But the steroid nasal sprays have

been proven to shrink the polyps while being used in some people.

Others report them not being successful.

>

> Hi Kim

> Actually although steroids can't get rid of polyps, they can

significantly

> reduce their size, and therefore the obstructions that accompany

then. I

> know, as my CT scans show, I was on prednisone (7-day course) last

October,

> (actually could not breathe at all through nose) and now, just

using Flonase

>

> 2xday and saline irrigation daily, my polyps have shrunk

considerably. I have

>

> no trouble breathing, although, I also have no sense of smell.

> Of course you don't want to be on steriods long term, they can give

you an

> awesome jump start.

> J

>

>

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