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Sara IF everything is ok, WHY are you doing tx? If you have little to no damage, you can wait for better treatment. What genotype are you? What stage of damage do you have? You know some ppl who have little damage have treated and the treatment caused the virus to mutate and they are now in serious trouble...Please explain it to us,, jaxSara <orcagrrrl2003@...> wrote: Hello. Yes I had a biopsy early last year andeverything was ok. I am starting treatment in Feb. orMarch, I'm really nervous:) __________________________________________________

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I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not sure

why I'm doing treatment. When I got my biopsy last

year they told me there was no damage. My specialist

told me I need to start TX before there is damage, and

that with my levels so low it would be easier to

treat. I don't know much about it, but I would like a

second opinion, but I don't think my insurance would

pay for it. Are there any sites with info on this

aspect of TX?

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Yes Sara,, just research the Interferon and Ribavirin treatment... there are such mixed opinions about doing THIS treatment if you have no damage vs doing it before you get damage,, remember the Liver CAN and does regenerate itself... ask a lot of others who have done tx,, ask if they had damage, would they do it again,, get as much info as you can before you decide one way or the other... and YOU make the decision,, not your doc, HE doesnt have to inject that stuff and take those pills.. HOW long does he say you have to treat? IF you are geno 1 or 4, you treat for 48 weeks and if you are geno 2or 3 you treat for 24 weeks... so you can usually tell what geno you are by how long he says you have to treat... and there is controversy over that as well, so learn as much as you can as its YOUR body and YOUR life,, no one else, so make sure you are confortable with whatever you decide and WE WILL support you too, no matter what you decide... keep us posted hon jaxSara <orcagrrrl2003@...> wrote: I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not surewhy I'm doing treatment. When I got my biopsy lastyear they told me there was no damage. My specialisttold me I need to start TX before there is damage, andthat with my levels so low it would be easier totreat. I don't know much about it, but I would like asecond opinion, but I don't think my insurance wouldpay for it. Are there any sites with info on thisaspect of TX?__________________________________________________

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Actually I agree with your doctor , only because of my experiences over the last 4 yrs .It seems to me the people I know with little damage seem to clear easier than others with more severe damage . Also there seem to be less side effects correlated with less damage . Age also plays a big role . Then there are some who ( usually after prior treatment) that treat again and have the virus mutate which is what happened to me . The CDC , the WHO and the NIH all have sites with information that can help you . Since you are already on treatment you should continue and do the full course , if you stop early then treat later its harder to get rid of .

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I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not surewhy I'm doing treatment. When I got my biopsy lastyear they told me there was no damage. My specialisttold me I need to start TX before there is damage, andthat with my levels so low it would be easier totreat. I don't know much about it, but I would like asecond opinion, but I don't think my insurance wouldpay for it. Are there any sites with info on thisaspect of TX?__________________________________________________

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Peginterferon Alfa-2b (PegIntron) Therapy in Hepatitis C Genotypes 1 and 4: Earlier Treatment Is Better to Achieve SVRs

The role, onset and duration of peginterferon treatment have not yet been evaluated in acute hepatitis C. The aim of the current study, conducted at 3 medical centers in the US, Egypt and Germany, was to assess the efficacy, safety, onset and duration of peginterferon alfa-2b (PEG IFN) [PegIntron] in acute hepatitis C.

In this intent to treat study patients with acute HCV genotypes 1 and 4 (n=98) were enrolled and prospectively followed. Patients were screened for 8 weeks after seroconversion or first positive PCR.

Fifteen subjects refused treatment but were followed through the study.

Patients without spontaneous recovery were randomized to begin PEG IFN alfa-2b monotherapy at wks 8, 12, 20 respectively for either 12 or 24 weeks. A subset of subjects who failed to achieve a virologic response after 12 wks of treatment continued therapy for additional 12 wks.

Results

· Five untreated subjects had spontaneous recovery and another 4 subjects scheduled to start treatment at weeks 12 or 20 resolved spontaneously before therapy;

· 79 subjects with persistent viremia were randomized to 3 groups (See Table below);

· The end of treatment response was 94% and the overall SVR was 82%;

· The SVR was better for genotype 4 compared to genotype 1;

· Earlier treatment (week 8 or 12) was associated with higher SVR particularly in genotype 1;

· Twelve week therapy was sufficient for genotype 4 while higher SVR rates in genotype 1 patients were achieved with 24 wks treatment (86%); and

· Peginterferon alfa-2b monotherapy was well tolerated and associated with significant improvement in the quality of life.

The authors conclude, “Peginterferon alfa-2b monotherapy improves sustained virologic response for acute hepatitis C virus with genotype 1 and 4 infection.”

“Earlier treatment leads to increased virologic response. HCV genotype 1 may require longer treatment duration.”

Harvard Institutes of Medicine and Harvard Medical School, Boston MA, USA, Ain Shams Faculty of Medicine, Cairo, Egypt, and University of Freiburg, Freiburg, Germany.

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I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not surewhy I'm doing treatment. When I got my biopsy lastyear they told me there was no damage. My specialisttold me I need to start TX before there is damage, andthat with my levels so low it would be easier totreat. I don't know much about it, but I would like asecond opinion, but I don't think my insurance wouldpay for it. Are there any sites with info on thisaspect of TX?__________________________________________________

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Thank you Liz, I KNEW there were post I had seen about doing tx earlier when you have certain genotypes,, what type was Chris? Do you remember? I know he mutated and it was worse... talk with you soon!elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Peginterferon Alfa-2b (PegIntron) Therapy in Hepatitis C Genotypes 1 and 4: Earlier Treatment Is Better to Achieve SVRs The role, onset and duration of peginterferon treatment have not yet been evaluated in acute hepatitis

C. The aim of the current study, conducted at 3 medical centers in the US, Egypt and Germany, was to assess the efficacy, safety, onset and duration of peginterferon alfa-2b (PEG IFN) [PegIntron] in acute hepatitis C. In this intent to treat study patients with acute HCV genotypes 1 and 4 (n=98) were enrolled and prospectively followed. Patients were screened for 8 weeks after seroconversion or first positive PCR. Fifteen subjects refused treatment but were followed through the study. Patients without spontaneous recovery were randomized to begin PEG IFN alfa-2b monotherapy at wks 8, 12, 20 respectively for either 12 or 24 weeks. A subset of subjects who failed to achieve a virologic response after 12 wks of treatment continued therapy for additional 12 wks. Results · Five untreated subjects had spontaneous

recovery and another 4 subjects scheduled to start treatment at weeks 12 or 20 resolved spontaneously before therapy; · 79 subjects with persistent viremia were randomized to 3 groups (See Table below); · The end of treatment response was 94% and the overall SVR was 82%; · The SVR was better for genotype 4 compared to genotype 1; · Earlier treatment (week 8 or 12) was associated with higher SVR particularly in genotype 1; · Twelve week therapy was sufficient for genotype 4 while higher SVR rates in genotype 1 patients were achieved with 24 wks treatment (86%); and · Peginterferon alfa-2b monotherapy was well tolerated and associated with significant improvement in the quality of life. The authors conclude, “Peginterferon alfa-2b monotherapy

improves sustained virologic response for acute hepatitis C virus with genotype 1 and 4 infection.” “Earlier treatment leads to increased virologic response. HCV genotype 1 may require longer treatment duration.” Harvard Institutes of Medicine and Harvard Medical School, Boston MA, USA, Ain Shams Faculty of Medicine, Cairo, Egypt, and University of Freiburg, Freiburg, Germany. Re: Just Curious I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not surewhy I'm doing treatment. When I got my biopsy lastyear they told me there was no damage. My specialisttold me I need to start TX before there is damage, andthat with my levels so low it would be easier totreat. I don't know much about it, but I would like asecond opinion, but I don't think my insurance wouldpay for it. Are there any sites with info on thisaspect of TX?__________________________________________________

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Liz, she is not on tx yet, is planning to start in Feb or March 06,, I would NEVER have EVER advocated anyone stop tx if they were on it,, remember I almost killed myself to make sure I KILLED the virus, lol,, elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Actually I agree with your doctor , only because of my experiences over the last 4 yrs .It seems to me the people I know with little damage seem to clear easier than others with more severe damage . Also there seem to be less side effects correlated with less damage . Age also plays a big role . Then there are some who ( usually after prior treatment) that treat again and have the virus mutate which is what happened to me . The CDC , the WHO and the NIH all have sites with

information that can help you . Since you are already on treatment you should continue and do the full course , if you stop early then treat later its harder to get rid of . Re: Just Curious I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not surewhy I'm doing

treatment. When I got my biopsy lastyear they told me there was no damage. My specialisttold me I need to start TX before there is damage, andthat with my levels so low it would be easier totreat. I don't know much about it, but I would like asecond opinion, but I don't think my insurance wouldpay for it. Are there any sites with info on thisaspect of TX?__________________________________________________

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He and I are both geno 1 a's and we were both classic nonresponders . It was only after retreatment for the 3rd time that I mutated , I believe it was about the same for him . If there had been treatment when I was first diagnosed I sure would have done it . Now I am so sick that I probably wont be able to tolerate the infergen . So yeah , I always encourage early treatment ....LOL "nip it in the bud" ,luv ya girl

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I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not surewhy I'm doing treatment. When I got my biopsy lastyear they told me there was no damage. My specialisttold me I need to start TX before there is damage, andthat with my levels so low it would be easier totreat. I don't know much about it, but I would like asecond opinion, but I don't think my insurance wouldpay for it. Are there any sites with info on thisaspect of TX?__________________________________________________

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What is your stage and grade ? It is always a good ideal to get copies of all lab and other test results to keep a record for yourself . This way if you do go see another doctor you wont have to have tests done over .

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Hello. Yes I had a biopsy early last year andeverything was ok. I am starting treatment in Feb. orMarch, I'm really nervous:) __________________________________________________

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OK OK , hehehe I thought she was already on tx ......my oops

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I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not surewhy I'm doing treatment. When I got my biopsy lastyear they told me there was no damage. My specialisttold me I need to start TX before there is damage, andthat with my levels so low it would be easier totreat. I don't know much about it, but I would like asecond opinion, but I don't think my insurance wouldpay for it. Are there any sites with info on thisaspect of TX?__________________________________________________

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Hello elizabeth, I am taking the medication peg and

copeg (for a month now) and I have genotype 2 for hep

c. I am 28 years old- college student and mother (and

wife) and I am scared. I am hopeful, but really scared

and I have been going through a lot now (as we all

have)- I just want to put this out on the table that I

just left another group because they wouldn't respect

that I am not religious (I am spiritual) and they kept

sending me Cross's and God chain mails- they got

really upset when I asked them to please stop and they

said I had no right to impinge on others beliefs. I

just want to say that I really need support and I

would love to give it as well- I just hope others

private beliefs can stay out of it- I am not talking

about someone asking if everyone would pray for them-

but no God chain mails. If this is not something that

can be accomplished let me know, but if it sounds fair

please count on me and I hope to get support as well.

thank you so much for listening, Dylan :-)

--- elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote:

> What is your stage and grade ? It is always a good

> ideal to get copies of all lab and other test

> results to keep a record for yourself . This way if

> you do go see another doctor you wont have to have

> tests done over .

> Re: Just Curious

>

>

> Hello. Yes I had a biopsy early last year and

> everything was ok. I am starting treatment in

> Feb. or

> March, I'm really nervous:)

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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oops- I realize that you weren't askin me (lol) but

hello anyways- :-)

--- elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote:

> OK OK , hehehe I thought she was already on tx

> ......my oops

> Re: Just

> Curious

>

>

> I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not

> sure

> why I'm doing treatment. When I got my biopsy

> last

> year they told me there was no damage. My

> specialist

> told me I need to start TX before there is

> damage, and

> that with my levels so low it would be easier

> to

> treat. I don't know much about it, but I

> would like a

> second opinion, but I don't think my insurance

> would

> pay for it. Are there any sites with info on

> this

> aspect of TX?

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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I agree with your advice and think it is great. My MD said it was my choice since there was not any apparent damage according to the biopsy. He was not very optimistic on better/easier tx in the future but I am hoping. With brain injury problem going on, now is not the time for me to start the tx and I was glad things are pretty good right now with the hepc issue. I think we all have to look at our individual situations and try to make an informed decision. That information is what we have to search out because the doctors don't seem to offer very much of that. KathyJackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: Yes Sara,, just research the Interferon and Ribavirin treatment... there are such mixed opinions about doing THIS treatment if you have no damage vs doing it before you get damage,, remember

the Liver CAN and does regenerate itself... ask a lot of others who have done tx,, ask if they had damage, would they do it again,, get as much info as you can before you decide one way or the other... and YOU make the decision,, not your doc, HE doesnt have to inject that stuff and take those pills.. HOW long does he say you have to treat? IF you are geno 1 or 4, you treat for 48 weeks and if you are geno 2or 3 you treat for 24 weeks... so you can usually tell what geno you are by how long he says you have to treat... and there is controversy over that as well, so learn as much as you can as its YOUR body and YOUR life,, no one else, so make sure you are confortable with whatever you decide and WE WILL support you too, no matter what you decide... keep us posted hon jaxSara <orcagrrrl2003@...> wrote: I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not surewhy I'm doing treatment. When I got my biopsy lastyear they told me there was no damage. My specialisttold me I need to start TX before there is damage, andthat with my levels so low it would be easier totreat. I don't know much about it, but I would like asecond opinion, but I don't think my insurance wouldpay for it. Are there any sites with info on thisaspect of TX?__________________________________________________

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Thats true Kathy, Most docs just wanna treat no matter what and thats because they do get some kickback from the drug company... but each of us needs to decide for ourselves and not just follow along like a sheep to the slaughter, lol,, Would I treat again, knowing what I KNOW now? YES I would ,, I was getting to where my liver was very sick and had I not treated, I would be either dead or on a transplant list,, so FOR ME< the risk vs benefit said I had to treat... even tho my gastro didnt want me to treat,, so Im glad I researched it and made my own decision! jackieKATHRINE SWANSON <kathrines@...> wrote: I agree with your advice and think it is great. My MD said it was my choice since there was not any apparent damage according to the biopsy. He was not very optimistic

on better/easier tx in the future but I am hoping. With brain injury problem going on, now is not the time for me to start the tx and I was glad things are pretty good right now with the hepc issue. I think we all have to look at our individual situations and try to make an informed decision. That information is what we have to search out because the doctors don't seem to offer very much of that. KathyJackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: Yes Sara,, just research the Interferon and Ribavirin treatment... there are such mixed opinions about doing THIS treatment if you have no damage vs doing it before you get damage,, remember the Liver CAN and does regenerate itself... ask a lot of others who have done tx,, ask if they had damage, would they do it again,, get as much info as you can before you decide one way or the other... and YOU

make the decision,, not your doc, HE doesnt have to inject that stuff and take those pills.. HOW long does he say you have to treat? IF you are geno 1 or 4, you treat for 48 weeks and if you are geno 2or 3 you treat for 24 weeks... so you can usually tell what geno you are by how long he says you have to treat... and there is controversy over that as well, so learn as much as you can as its YOUR body and YOUR life,, no one else, so make sure you are confortable with whatever you decide and WE WILL support you too, no matter what you decide... keep us posted hon jaxSara <orcagrrrl2003@...> wrote: I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not surewhy I'm doing treatment. When I got my biopsy lastyear they told me there was no damage. My specialisttold me I need to start TX before

there is damage, andthat with my levels so low it would be easier totreat. I don't know much about it, but I would like asecond opinion, but I don't think my insurance wouldpay for it. Are there any sites with info on thisaspect of TX?__________________________________________________

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Hi Dont worry, we wont be sending any God chain emails,, not from here! We try to stay away from anything controversial that is not related to hep C,, no politics or religion,, so dont worry,, and welcome hon, you will like our group, we are very supportive! jax Rath <kdrath@...> wrote: Hello elizabeth, I am taking the medication peg andcopeg (for a month now) and I have genotype 2 for hepc. I am 28 years old- college student and mother (andwife) and I am scared. I am hopeful, but really scaredand I have been going through a lot now (as we allhave)- I just want to put this out on the table that Ijust left another group because they wouldn't respectthat I am not religious (I am spiritual) and they keptsending me Cross's and God chain mails- they

gotreally upset when I asked them to please stop and theysaid I had no right to impinge on others beliefs. Ijust want to say that I really need support and Iwould love to give it as well- I just hope othersprivate beliefs can stay out of it- I am not talkingabout someone asking if everyone would pray for them-but no God chain mails. If this is not something thatcan be accomplished let me know, but if it sounds fairplease count on me and I hope to get support as well.thank you so much for listening, Dylan :-)--- elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote:> What is your stage and grade ? It is always a good> ideal to get copies of all lab and other test> results to keep a record for yourself . This way if> you do go see another doctor you wont have to have> tests done over . > Re: Just Curious> > > Hello. Yes I had a biopsy early last year and> everything was ok. I am starting treatment in> Feb. or> March, I'm really nervous:) > > > __________________________________________________>

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OH,, I thought was treating for the first time,, never heard him say it was 3rd,, sigh,, well I think that anyone needs to gather all the facts and then make up their own mind,, I know I would still treat if I had too.. not even a question.. How are you doing? have you done your first shot yet? love you sister! jaxelizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: He and I are both geno 1 a's and we were both classic nonresponders . It was only after retreatment for the 3rd time that I mutated , I believe it was about the same for him . If there had been treatment when I was first diagnosed I sure would have done it . Now I am so sick that I probably wont be able to tolerate the infergen . So yeah , I always

encourage early treatment ....LOL "nip it in the bud" ,luv ya girl Re: Just Curious I'm not sure what genotype it is, and I am not surewhy I'm doing treatment. When I got my biopsy lastyear they told me there was no damage. My specialisttold me I need to start TX before there is damage, andthat with my levels so low it would be easier totreat. I don't know much about it, but I would like asecond opinion, but I don't think my insurance wouldpay for it. Are there any sites with info on thisaspect of TX?__________________________________________________

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thank you! I am very happy to be here- hugs, Dylan

:-)

--- Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote:

> Hi

> Dont worry, we wont be sending any God chain

> emails,, not from here! We try to stay away from

> anything controversial that is not related to hep

> C,, no politics or religion,, so dont worry,,

> and welcome hon, you will like our group, we are

> very supportive!

> jax

>

> Rath <kdrath@...> wrote:

> Hello elizabeth, I am taking the medication peg

> and

> copeg (for a month now) and I have genotype 2 for

> hep

> c. I am 28 years old- college student and mother

> (and

> wife) and I am scared. I am hopeful, but really

> scared

> and I have been going through a lot now (as we all

> have)- I just want to put this out on the table that

> I

> just left another group because they wouldn't

> respect

> that I am not religious (I am spiritual) and they

> kept

> sending me Cross's and God chain mails- they got

> really upset when I asked them to please stop and

> they

> said I had no right to impinge on others beliefs. I

> just want to say that I really need support and I

> would love to give it as well- I just hope others

> private beliefs can stay out of it- I am not talking

> about someone asking if everyone would pray for

> them-

> but no God chain mails. If this is not something

> that

> can be accomplished let me know, but if it sounds

> fair

> please count on me and I hope to get support as

> well.

> thank you so much for listening, Dylan :-)

>

> --- elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote:

>

> > What is your stage and grade ? It is always a good

> > ideal to get copies of all lab and other test

> > results to keep a record for yourself . This way

> if

> > you do go see another doctor you wont have to have

> > tests done over .

> > Re: Just Curious

> >

> >

> > Hello. Yes I had a biopsy early last year and

> > everything was ok. I am starting treatment in

> > Feb. or

> > March, I'm really nervous:)

> >

> >

> >

> __________________________________________________

> >

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LOL don't worry about God chain mails , there are many here with a variety of beliefs . I have not yet received even one God chain mail things through this group , but I do have a grandmother in law who keeps sending them to me , lol . Welcome to Hepatitis C Central , this is a great group of people who are very very supportive . I am a genotype 1a and a nonresponder , today I started round 4 of treatment . I am doing Infergen and riba daily , which I don't look forward to but I am doing it anyway . I am a happily married mother of 6+1 niece . What is your major ?

Re: Just Curious> > > Hello. Yes I had a biopsy early last year and> everything was ok. I am starting treatment in> Feb. or> March, I'm really nervous:) > > > __________________________________________________>

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I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said . We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl

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OH,, I thought was treating for the first time,, never heard him say it was 3rd,, sigh,, well I think that anyone needs to gather all the facts and then make up their own mind,, I know I would still treat if I had too.. not even a question..

How are you doing? have you done your first shot yet?

love you sister!

jax

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Good, I hope you will find the support and answers you are looking for,, and we do have a sense of humor as well! jax Rath <kdrath@...> wrote: thank you! I am very happy to be here- hugs, Dylan:-)--- Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote:> Hi > Dont worry, we wont be sending any God chain> emails,, not from here! We try to stay away from> anything controversial that is not related to hep> C,, no politics or religion,, so dont worry,, > and welcome hon, you will like our group, we are> very supportive!> jax> > Rath <kdrath@...> wrote:> Hello elizabeth, I am taking the medication peg> and> copeg (for a month now) and I have

genotype 2 for> hep> c. I am 28 years old- college student and mother> (and> wife) and I am scared. I am hopeful, but really> scared> and I have been going through a lot now (as we all> have)- I just want to put this out on the table that> I> just left another group because they wouldn't> respect> that I am not religious (I am spiritual) and they> kept> sending me Cross's and God chain mails- they got> really upset when I asked them to please stop and> they> said I had no right to impinge on others beliefs. I> just want to say that I really need support and I> would love to give it as well- I just hope others> private beliefs can stay out of it- I am not talking> about someone asking if everyone would pray for> them-> but no God chain mails. If this is not something> that> can be accomplished let me know, but if

it sounds> fair> please count on me and I hope to get support as> well.> thank you so much for listening, Dylan :-)> > --- elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote:> > > What is your stage and grade ? It is always a good> > ideal to get copies of all lab and other test> > results to keep a record for yourself . This way> if> > you do go see another doctor you wont have to have> > tests done over . > > Re: Just Curious> > > > > > Hello. Yes I had a biopsy early last year and> > everything was ok. I am starting

treatment in> > Feb. or> > March, I'm really nervous:) > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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Dylan, As Liz said we don't have any of those chain mail going through this group. Why because this group is made up of people of many faiths and beliefs. So I asked that we stick to the subject of Hep C, and support each other with information, education and caring. So you have come to the right place. Much love Janetelizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: LOL don't worry about God chain mails , there are many here with a variety of beliefs . I have not yet received even one God chain mail things through this group , but I do have a grandmother in law

who keeps sending them to me , lol . Welcome to Hepatitis C Central , this is a great group of people who are very very supportive . I am a genotype 1a and a nonresponder , today I started round 4 of treatment . I am doing Infergen and riba daily , which I don't look forward to but I am doing it anyway . I am a happily married mother of 6+1 niece . What is your major ? Re: Just Curious Hello elizabeth, I am taking the medication peg andcopeg (for a month now) and I have genotype 2 for hepc. I am 28 years old- college student and mother (andwife) and I am scared. I am hopeful, but really scaredand I have been going through a lot now (as we allhave)- I just want to put this out on the table that Ijust left another group because they wouldn't respectthat I am not religious (I am spiritual) and they keptsending me Cross's and God chain mails- they gotreally upset when I asked them to please stop and theysaid I had no right to impinge on others beliefs. Ijust want to say that I really need support and Iwould love to give it as well- I just hope othersprivate beliefs can stay out of it- I am not talkingabout someone asking if everyone would pray for them-but no God chain

mails. If this is not something thatcan be accomplished let me know, but if it sounds fairplease count on me and I hope to get support as well.thank you so much for listening, Dylan :-)I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

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> Who has entered the challenge and who is just doing it on their own?

>

I always seem to drop out and cower if I ask for a packet so I'm just

doing this for me. So I live to be 100 and not hobble around on a

walker. My hubs and I are trying to outlive each other. LOL

Deb

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I'm just doing it on my own, but I may enter this summer. Beth P.

Debra <dcoolmail@...> wrote:

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> Who has entered the challenge and who is just doing it on their own?

>

I always seem to drop out and cower if I ask for a packet so I'm just

doing this for me. So I live to be 100 and not hobble around on a

walker. My hubs and I are trying to outlive each other. LOL

Deb

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I officially entered the challenge (Canadisn EAS) and am planning on

entering the next one and the one iin august as well. I am going to be

so " jacked " (as my daughter puts it!) LOL

Dianne

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Doing it on my own, although I do want to enter. I need to go ahead

and take a picture and get a packet.

> >

> > Who has entered the challenge and who is just doing it on their

own?

> >

>

>

> I always seem to drop out and cower if I ask for a packet so I'm just

> doing this for me. So I live to be 100 and not hobble around on a

> walker. My hubs and I are trying to outlive each other. LOL

>

> Deb

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